The dogs' Hornet mods

[Kendog]

One thing I love about these forums is seeing what other people have done to their bikes, it inspires me to do new things to mine.

The Hornet is a very 'mod-able' bike, so over the last 7 months I have had a good time not only riding it but personalising it.

If you are into this sort of thing or have a Hornet, read on. If not......

Exhaust:
Changing these was not in the plans until we heard Skelstars ‘baffelectomied’ exhausts, they sounded much better than the whisper quiet sound the hornet is know for. As I am not mechanically minded thought I would pop in Cycleworks for an opinion, 2 weeks later and both bikes sport some damn nice looking pipes that sound fantastic (compared to the originals at least). Bike seems to rev a lot more freely now as well. Good guys at Cycleworks 

Wheels:
These were red when I got the bike. I was going to have them painted when I was buying it but the paint shop was closed for the xmas holidays. Now I like them red, makes the bike pretty unique.

Handle bars:
Replaced with Renthal low bars. Was looking for more width, a bit lower and to remove the vibes at 5000 rpm. Got two of the three, but these bars feel no lower than stock.

Mirrors:
Replaced with Rizoma Impulsive mirrors. Not cheap, but damn these are good mirrors. Almost limitless adjustability and a great view behind. They also look damn good on the bike I reckon.

Indicators:
Replaced the large Honda stock indicators with Oxfords front and rear. The rears are a pretty decent size and flash at the normal speed. The front ones are the ‘micros’, they look good but I think they are a bit small and result in a very fast flash rate.

Screen:
The bike came with the standard Honda screen, which is a smokey brown colour (why Honda??) A few coats of mat black on the inside and it came up nicely.

Engine nuts:
Painted black (inspired by et al)

Radiator:
Car grill added to the front (chopped to size and attached with plastic ties) Purchased red grill from super cheap autos (inspired by Dr Hook) but the red was not the right red and looked a little funny, so painted it black.
Painted the side silver covers black.

Grab rail:
Remove this and covered the holes with Rizoma hole caps. Makes the rear end look a lot more stream lined.

Side triangle covers:
Not sure what these are for, but I like the look without them.

Rear guard:
Chopped this right down to the indicator mounts, re drilled a new licence plate and mounted as high up as possible. Only down side to this is the rear gets pretty dirty when riding on wet roads.

Rego and Warrant:
These were mounted on the rear guard. As I chopped this down I needed to move them somewhere. So mounted the reg to the side of the hugger and the warrant to the inside of the rear foot peg.

Rear foot pegs:
While mounting the warrant found the foot guard was getting in the way so removed it. Looks a little tidier without it.

Flapper mod:
Blocked the air intake pipe thingy. This is the first mod I did based on a lot of people on various forums saying they did this and the bike sounded and felt better. To be honest didn’t really notice the difference.

Side plastic covers:
The colour of these was a little dark for the bike. When Mrs KD got her bike the colour of hers was a little light. Quick swap and problem solved.

Honda stickers:
My bike had ‘CB900 Hornet’ as a sticker on the side plastic covers, the other bike did not have these. After the swap there was nothing on the bike to say what it was. Went to Blue cat graphics and they made some for me.

Crash knobs:
Some oggy crash knobs fitted for those unfortunate moments. Proved there worth during a ‘lovingly place the bike on the ground’ incident.

Horn:
Swung in towards the middle of the bike so it is not sticking out so much.

Tyre pressure and chain sticker:
Removed these from the swing arm and chain guard.

[Kendog]

Has almost all the above done as well as the following.

Seat:
The problem with this bike is it is a little too high for Mrs KD. Reducing the seat height was the first step in correcting this. Sent the stock seat off to Macdonald trimmers in Tauranga (Rider seats). The result was a fantastic looking and very comfortable seat, especially compared to the firm stock seat. The height had dropped a little but still need to go down more, so onto the next mod.
Thank Groins NZ for the lend of your seat while ours was away.

Suspension:
A lot of people talked about lowering the bike by adjusting the rear shock. Unfortunately the rear of the Hornet was not set up for this, with the only option being chopping the stock shock down, which could impact on performance and ride comfort (which was already very firm and bouncy)
After hours on various forums looking at other options discovered Ohlins make a couple of shocks for the hornet that lower the bike. Got in touch with Robert Taylor at Hawera Motorcycles who imported and installed the shock for us. Not only is the bike lower now but the ride has improved as well.

[Kendog]

Hope you enjoy

[Cajun]

nice kendog and mrs kendog

two awsome looking machiens

[skelstar]

Nice. The last photo looks real good eh?

Btw - official price from those Rizomi mirrors (pair).

[WickedOne]

Hey Kendog (Mr & Mrs). The Hornets look awesome, very good job!!!!!

[Kendog]

Nice. The last photo looks real good eh?

Btw - official price from those Rizomi mirrors (pair).

$214 US a pair including adaptors

[frogfeaturesFZR]

Hey guys, bikes look awesome ! Half the fun in owning a bike is making it individual :rockon:

[Zed]

Well done Kendog, you've got both bikes looking tip top! Those aftermarket cannisters finish them off nicely and that custom seat of your Mrs looks sharp. Nice pics too. :2thumbsup

*bling*

[Cajun]

Hey kendog would you mind taking a couple of good photos of mrs kendog seat for us and emailing thru to mac at work?

[skelstar]

Hey kendog would you mind taking a couple of good photos of mrs kendog seat for us and emailing thru to mac at work?
I cant believe you asked for a pic of Mr K's missus's seat! Hes a very violent man you know!


The celebrated Mr K, will perform his feats on Saturday at Bishops Gate!

[Kendog]

Hey kendog would you mind taking a couple of good photos of mrs kendog seat for us and emailing thru to mac at work?

Sure thing

[RantyDave]

Good work guys. I love the way that people are buying Hornets as a "blank canvas" bike.

Dave

[Kendog]

I cant believe you asked for a pic of Mr K's missus's seat! Hes a very violent man you know!

Classic.

I always say bikes with chicks on them are better photos :whistle:


In this way Mr. K will challenge the world.

[Coyote]

They both look incredibly awesome


Good work guys. I love the way that people are buying Hornets as a "blank canvas" bike.
Well they've inspired me. It'll be easy enough for me to save up for one by next year and it'll be a smarter, less suicidal option over a SP1/RSV1000

[Cajun]

I cant believe you asked for a pic of Mr K's missus's seat! Hes a very violent man you know!

we did shape the seat to her ass, so we needed to have a good grope to make sure we got right

[HenryDorsetCase]

those red wheels are really cool, and make it distinctive.

Ive mentioned before that I will be getting an Ohlins shock (yellow spring) and am toying with the idea of getting the wheels powdercoated to match...

[Kendog]

we did shape the seat to her ass, so we needed to have a good grope to make sure we got right

She didn't mention the groping :shit:

I was thinking about getting one of these seats one day, do you have some female staff to do the 'shape test'?

[skelstar]

those red wheels are really cool, and make it distinctive.

Ive mentioned before that I will be getting an Ohlins shock (yellow spring) and am toying with the idea of getting the wheels powdercoated to match...
I was thinking of Repsol Orange wheels.;)

[Matt Bleck]

Looking Good bro

[Cajun]

She didn't mention the groping :shit:

I was thinking about getting one of these seats one day, do you have some female staff to do the 'shape test'?

Yes female staff are on hand for the shape test.

But sure you enjoy the 'shape test' from Mac and Max

[et al]

Well done Mr & Mrs KD - have you run out of "mod" ideas yet?
I have made a few discrete $0 mods to mine lately (lets just say some tape and ice cream containers and leave it at that!). My Hornet is beginning to look like a tarts handbag, and a cheap one at that!

[limbimtimwim]

Wheels:
These were red when I got the bike. I was going to have them painted when I was buying it but the paint shop was closed for the xmas holidays. Now I like them red, makes the bike pretty unique.Makes it easy to tell it is you too. Never seen another one with red wheels around, they do look good.

[SPman]

So we have mr and mrs Kendog with similar bikes, mr and mrs Grumpy likewise.......guess I have to start looking for an FZ1 so Mstriumph and me, match.......

[Kendog]

Hey kendog would you mind taking a couple of good photos of mrs kendog seat for us and emailing thru to mac at work?

The pictures are on the way.

[HenryDorsetCase]

yesterday wasnt a bad day, so I took the Hornet for a spin. after reading a thread on KB about tyre pressures, I decided to experiment a bit.

I dropped my front to 32, and rear to 36 (from the manual recommendation of 36f and 42r).

what a difference! Im still going to upgrade the shock, its oversprung, but the front end feel was much better the suspension felt a LOT better. more compliant and less skittish, and less jolts right up the spine.

Cheers KB'ers that was excellent!

Yesterday was only a pootle, I think if I was pressing on I would have to up the pressures, but to nowhere near the recommendations. I think they are recommended for a 150kg rider riding at 150kph for hours on end!

[Kendog]

Its funny you should mention reducing tyre pressure.

Just yesterday our wise mentor said the same thing, was going to try this next weekend as well.

Glad to hear your comments.

[Kendog]

Well done Mr & Mrs KD - have you run out of "mod" ideas yet?
I have made a few discrete $0 mods to mine lately (lets just say some tape and ice cream containers and leave it at that!). My Hornet is beginning to look like a tarts handbag, and a cheap one at that!

If I run out of ideas that may the time to change bikes.

Still plenty of things I would love to do:
Replace the pegs
Paint the headers black
Replace the levers
Lower bars
Briaded brake lones
Replace the hugger
New seat

I am sure there are others :innocent:

Have you got any photos of your handbag?

[mdb]

What no photo of the Skelstar's Hornet?

[skelstar]

My photo is in my profile.
Do you ride your bike anymore mate?

[TerminalAddict]

where di you get the mirrors? and how much were they?

*its start ... oh dear* :D

[Waylander]

Nice. The last photo looks real good eh?

One could almost say calander worthy.....


where di you get the mirrors? and how much were they?

*its start ... oh dear* :DHad the bike all of 3 days and allready at it? lol.

[Kendog]

where di you get the mirrors? and how much were they?

*its start ... oh dear* :D

Warning, warning......

Once you travel down the 'Mod' path there is no turning back ;)

Got the mirrors (and grab rail covers) here (http://www.pjsparts.com/catalog/index.php?manufacturers_id=12&sort=2a&filter_id=52)

Mirrors were $214 US

[MattRSK]

Wheels:
These were red when I got the bike. I was going to have them painted when I was buying it but the paint shop was closed for the xmas holidays. Now I like them red, makes the bike pretty unique.



You were right. They have that special something. Were you at manfield in the weekend?

[Kendog]

You were right. They have that special something. Were you at manfield in the weekend?

Cheers.

Nope, not at Manfield.
I do want to get out on the track again one day.

[Kendog]

One could almost say calander worthy.....

That would be cool :yes:

[MattRSK]

I saw a Hornet there that you might of liked!! Might catch you and Mrs Kendog on a welly ride soon.

[Maha]

Certainly fine looking machines, you both must stoked at the result's of the makeover's.......so to speak, no botox or cologen needed, just good old kiwi foresight.....:yes:

[skelstar]

MattRSK...that may have been my baby that you saw. Twin Buell headies? The 'dogs are quite familiar with it already ;)

[MattRSK]

MattRSK...that may have been my baby that you saw. Twin Buell headies? The 'dogs are quite familiar with it already ;)
That may have been the one Skelstar. A fine example it was. Well done. Good day at manfeild.

[skelstar]

Cheers. Was a hell of a nice day.

[shroffman]

Great looking bike! Just a couple of questions with the ultra lows, did they really remove the vibes? And did you drill the bars to accomodate the controls or just file off the knobbly bits? Thanks.

[Kendog]

Great looking bike! Just a couple of questions with the ultra lows, did they really remove the vibes? And did you drill the bars to accomodate the controls or just file off the knobbly bits? Thanks.

Yep, vibes almost all gone.

'knobbly bits' were filed off.

[WickedOne]

Yep, vibes almost all gone.

'knobbly bits' were filed off.

Hey guys, were those the "Low" or "Ulra Low" bars you went with?

[Kendog]

They're the low ones, have ordered a set of ultra lows that are currently on a VERY slow boat from somewhere! I'm (Mrs KD) getting the lows put on my bike once the ultra lows have arrived and are put onto the hubbys bike.
Oh yeah, have put some nice gold pinstripeing around my rims too, looks hot with my gold brake callipers (if that's what they are, (blonde)).
Mrs KD.

[race me!!!!]

heres mine i have replaced indicators with oxford ones and put on a acerbis headlight also knocked out some baffeling

[WickedOne]

They're the low ones, have ordered a set of ultra lows that are currently on a VERY slow boat from somewhere! I'm (Mrs KD) getting the lows put on my bike once the ultra lows have arrived and are put onto the hubbys bike.
Oh yeah, have put some nice gold pinstripeing around my rims too, looks hot with my gold brake callipers (if that's what they are, (blonde)).
Mrs KD.

Kewl, please let us know once the Ultra Lows arrive. I have been thinking of getting some too so would be good to see how you go and find out how they feel....
You are going to have to put up some pics of the bars and pinstripes, I have been thinking of putting some sky blue stripes on mine, look forward to seeing yours once all done. Cheers :yes:

[WickedOne]

heres mine i have replaced indicators with oxford ones and put on a acerbis headlight also knocked out some baffeling


Hey Bud, never got to actually meet you on Thursday, I'll make a point of it this week. Does your 'net not have a huggar?

[race me!!!!]

Hey Bud, never got to actually meet you on Thursday, I'll make a point of it this week. Does your 'net not have a huggar?

yeah itd be cool to meet you! ive been trying hard to find a hugger!!! canot locate though

[Kendog]

heres mine i have replaced indicators with oxford ones and put on a acerbis headlight also knocked out some baffeling

Wow, I like that headlight :gob:
Can you post a pic from a bit further away.

Where did you get it and about how much$$

Cheers

[Kendog]

Kewl, please let us know once the Ultra Lows arrive. I have been thinking of getting some too so would be good to see how you go and find out how they feel....
You are going to have to put up some pics of the bars and pinstripes, I have been thinking of putting some sky blue stripes on mine, look forward to seeing yours once all done. Cheers :yes:

Sweet as, the NZ order is going to take ages.
I found a place in the UK, just trying to sort out delivery options.

I will get some pics of the pinstripes soon, they do look damn good and only about $30 as well.

[limbimtimwim]

yeah itd be cool to meet you! ive been trying hard to find a hugger!!! canot locate thoughI had a short look for one for my VTR250, looks like the same rear end. Never found one.

Those Hornet 250s are very very nice.

[race me!!!!]

Wow, I like that headlight :gob:
Can you post a pic from a bit further away.

Where did you get it and about how much$$

Cheers

its an acerbis cyclops from darbis accerories wholesale $145 it fits in perfectly!!

[Kendog]

Here are some pics of the pinstripes.

[race me!!!!]

pin stripes on wheels rock thats the next 1 for me!! howd you do it???

[Kendog]

pin stripes on wheels rock thats the next 1 for me!! howd you do it???

They are a quick Ebay purchase away
http://stores.ebay.com/GLSigns-Wheel-Stripes-and-Decals_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ0QQftidZ2QQpZ2QQtZkm

Easy to put on too.

[gijoe1313]

:gob: :shit: :rockon: :sunny: Sooooo many nice Hornets here! I'm looking to getting a possible front windshield. Have intention to travelling to Welly in my holidays and wondering whether it would be worth having one!

So much drool factor here - hopefully I get to see some of these sleek kewl machines with mark one eyeball one day! :yes:

[WickedOne]

They are a quick Ebay purchase away
http://stores.ebay.com/GLSigns-Wheel-Stripes-and-Decals_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ0QQftidZ2QQpZ2QQtZkm

Easy to put on too.

Hey Kendog, have your Ultra Low bars arrived yet? I am really keen to get a set but just waiting to see how you go with them before I make my move....:yes:

[Kendog]

God I wish!!:angry: Was told it was going to be a couple of months.....
A couple of months ago! Will hopefully turn up sometime this year, but when they do, will post pics and comments for ya!

[mops]

Hello guys...
Sorry to 'butt in' your discussion.

I really like hornets and I'm seriously considering one for a next bike (when i get my full), as alternative to SV650 or SV1000...

can you guys who own hornets answer the following to me (excuse my noobness):

1. what is the fuel economy/consumption of these machines ?
2. are there any storage compartments in the bike (very important)
3. at high speed cruise (100-110kph) it it nice and comfortable ? does it still have grunt for a quick acceleration or does it kinda feel like it doesnt really wanna do it ?
4. is the front and rear suspension adjustable ?

Thanks in advance !

[skelstar]

1. About 230kms on a tank before hitting reserve (96).
2. Not a hell of a lot under the seat. Its a one peice, but because of the exhaust system its kinda restrictive.
3. F*ck yeah!!! Its as torquey as anything so you can accelerate without worrying about what gear youre in.
4. Rear only until about '04. '05 is both front and back (2way I think).

[Kendog]

I'll second all of that and add that you can get a new shock installed which helps with handling and adjustability, hubby dearest rides mine with an Ohlins shock in it and always comments that they feel like completely different bikes (ie. mine is crap loads more comfortable, stable and just generally cooler than his!!):shutup: Haha
Mrs KD.

[WickedOne]

Hey Kendog, have your Ultra Low bars not arrived yet? I have ordered a pair from the UK and am now also playing the waiting game. Did you fit the low ones yourself or did you have them put on?

[rua]

I got some Rizoma bars like these,

http://www.pjsparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=12&products_id=51

Easy to do yourself, had previously removed the locating pins in the controls for some Renthal drag style bars that turned into a pain in the arse due to throttle stick http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/smilies/surprise.gif
:gob:, tank clearance and control location issues, in comparison the Rizomas bolted straight up, don't hit the tank and are about 1-2" lower.

Give it a go, as long as you take care it's not a major.

[WickedOne]

I got some Rizoma bars like these,

http://www.pjsparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=12&products_id=51

Easy to do yourself, had previously removed the locating pins in the controls for some Renthal drag style bars that turned into a pain in the arse due to throttle stick http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/smilies/surprise.gif
:gob:, tank clearance and control location issues, in comparison the Rizomas bolted straight up, don't hit the tank and are about 1-2" lower.

Give it a go, as long as you take care it's not a major.

Cheers, can you post up some pics of your bike with the new bars on? Do you find they have made a big difference to the vibes and seating position? Did you put anything on the bars before replacing all the switches etc? (some people have mentioned putting some inner tube rubber between the switches and the bars).

[Chisanga]

Just caught up with this thread. You truly have two awesome bikes there Mr and Mrs Kendog :)

[Alice]

The bikes look hot, like the look of the red wheels. Was going to mention the front lights but thought it might sound like critisicm, now that you are onto that line of thought I think a more sporty light would make them look real trick.
Its one of the things I have thought about for my VTR along with a couple of other options but since I won't be owning it too long I will wait for the next bike to do some upgrades.

[rua]

wickedone, yeah tried the thing about tire tube, found it too thick, couple of rounds of tape have done the trick without bowing the control clamps yet keeping them stable, trial and error I am afraid.

Will try and borrow a digi camera and get some pics.

Not too sure re the vibs, got some bar ends from Rizoma at the same time (originals seem to reflect the budget price of the hornet, in the bin), as for feel, waiting for the 27th when my demerits are reset and I’m legal again, will let you know.

[WickedOne]

wickedone, yeah tried the thing about tire tube, found it too thick, couple of rounds of tape have done the trick without bowing the control clamps yet keeping them stable, trial and error I am afraid.

Will try and borrow a digi camera and get some pics.

Not too sure re the vibs, got some bar ends from Rizoma at the same time (originals seem to reflect the budget price of the hornet, in the bin), as for feel, waiting for the 27th when my demerits are reset and I’m legal again, will let you know.

I was wondering if it would be too thick and had thought of using some insulation tape as well, will probably do so if I don't find anything else suitable. Yeah, keep us posted, only 10 days to go!!!!!!:scooter:

[Kendog]

Hey Kendog, have your Ultra Low bars not arrived yet? I have ordered a pair from the UK and am now also playing the waiting game. Did you fit the low ones yourself or did you have them put on?

Good timing, I got an email yesterday saying they have arrived. I should have them on Thursday. That is only 7 months after I first said I want them :gob:
Gives new meaning to the term "slow boat from....."

I am not very competent with stuff like this so will have the bike shop swap them over. My bars are going on Mrs KD's bike and new ones onto mine.
I will post a review of them once I have been for a ride.

I will dig up some instructions on installing these bars on the Hornet, were pretty good from memory.

[Nutter34]

Not quite Hornet related but got a set of the Renthal street Ultra-lows from a mate last week. They have the same bend as the stock Z1000 bars but are about an inch lower. They are also about an inch wider in total than the Z's standard bars. I think they're about 725mm.

Initial riding experience, I lean a bit more forward and it seemed the wind wasn't as much of an issue, compared to stock... I didn't notice the extra width when under way but I've only done one short ride. If anything, all I noticed was the angle at which the bars were, just since it fealt different. I've rotated them back a bit but haven't been out again...

The drilling of the holes for the switch gear was easy, though I got my measurements a few mm off on the throttle side. I also had to get a set of Zeta bar-end inserts, to which I mounted the standard Z weights...

[Kendog]

Here are the installation instructions step by step.

http://www.the2hands.btinternet.co.uk/fittings/Page_2x.html

Personally I am not a fan of drilling.

[Trudes]

The bars were on a slow boat from Mars honey.

[WickedOne]

Good timing, I got an email yesterday saying they have arrived. I should have them on Thursday. That is only 7 months after I first said I want them :gob:
Gives new meaning to the term "slow boat from....."

I am not very competent with stuff like this so will have the bike shop swap them over. My bars are going on Mrs KD's bike and new ones onto mine.
I will post a review of them once I have been for a ride.

I will dig up some instructions on installing these bars on the Hornet, were pretty good from memory.

Well timed indeed, holy crap, 7 months is insane, they must have done a few trips around the world before getting here!!! Look forward to hearing your feedback and seeing some pics.


Not quite Hornet related but got a set of the Renthal street Ultra-lows from a mate last week. They have the same bend as the stock Z1000 bars but are about an inch lower. They are also about an inch wider in total than the Z's standard bars. I think they're about 725mm.

Initial riding experience, I lean a bit more forward and it seemed the wind wasn't as much of an issue, compared to stock... I didn't notice the extra width when under way but I've only done one short ride. If anything, all I noticed was the angle at which the bars were, just since it fealt different. I've rotated them back a bit but haven't been out again...

The drilling of the holes for the switch gear was easy, though I got my measurements a few mm off on the throttle side. I also had to get a set of Zeta bar-end inserts, to which I mounted the standard Z weights...

Hi rdrzcbr, cheers for the feedback, I don't think I will drill the bars because this is what it states on the Renthal site:

Fitting Notes

It is very important when fitting the handlebars that any sharp edges are removed from the handlebar mounts where they come in contact with the handlebar (see illustration 1). Failure to remove these sharp edges could lead to a fatigue failure.

To make sure that the handlebar is aligned centrally use the laser marked positioning grid for centre and rotational location (see illustration 3). The positioning grid also allows you to replace the handlebars in exactly the same position should you need to remove the handlebar from the bike for any reason.

IMPORTANT WARNINGS

Do not modify the handlebars.

Do not centre punch or in any way mark the handlebar. Physical marking of the handlebar can lead to stress raisers.

Do not clean the handlebar with any form of metal polish or concentrated cleaning fluids.

The use of these products could damage the anodised finish of the handlebars. Note that now even Silver 7/8" handlebars are anodised. Please keep us posted though!!!


Here are the installation instructions step by step.

http://www.the2hands.btinternet.co.uk/fittings/Page_2x.html

Personally I am not a fan of drilling. Cheers mate, I would have to agree, I aint going to take the risk of drilling them!!! :shutup:


The bars were on a slow boat from Mars honey. Yeah, that is an understatement, I am sure a trip from Mars could have been done quicker!!!! :shit:

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'll second all of that and add that you can get a new shock installed which helps with handling and adjustability, hubby dearest rides mine with an Ohlins shock in it and always comments that they feel like completely different bikes (ie. mine is crap loads more comfortable, stable and just generally cooler than his!!):shutup: Haha
Mrs KD.


I think Ive said before that the Ohlins shock in mine (with new fork springs as well) is the single best improvement I have ever made to any bike. And I only got the "cheap"* Ohlins shock.




*relatively......

[WickedOne]

Well my bars etc arrived today (it only took a week from the UK!!!) Spent the day putting them and some new indicators on. Will try them out on the ATNR tonight and update you all tomorrow. Some pics...

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[skelstar]

Look good bro. Hope they feel good too.

[Kendog]

Those do look good :niceone:

Are they the ultra lows?

And great work getting them here so quickly.

I will post some pics of mine when I get my A into G

[WickedOne]

Cheers guys, yeah they are Renthal Ultra Lows. The riding position and hand position is much more comfortable than the standard bars and a lot of the vibes are now gone as well (not completely but I think my Microns and suspension may have a role to play with that). Next thing...... mirrors.....:shutup:

[Kendog]

Next thing...... mirrors.....:shutup:

Check these (http://www.rizoma.com/english/en_mirrors.html) out.

We have the Impulsive in all black. Yummy.

[98tls]

very nice.........love the retro bar-end ones.Streetfighter modifacations in Aussie has some nice ones as well.Just ordered a set from them.

[WickedOne]

Check these (http://www.rizoma.com/english/en_mirrors.html) out.

We have the Impulsive in all black. Yummy.

Yeah mate, did look at those and they look great on your bikes but a bit too much $$$ for me to spend right now unfortunately!!!

[Kendog]

Hey Kendog, have your Ultra Low bars not arrived yet? I have ordered a pair from the UK and am now also playing the waiting game. Did you fit the low ones yourself or did you have them put on?

Well they are finally on my bike and I have some pictures.
Love em.

[skelstar]

They look good bro!

[WickedOne]

Well they are finally on my bike and I have some pictures.
Love em.

Looking good mate, do you like the change? I find it much better with the Ultra Lows. Been down to Tauranga this weekend and did a 665km trip. The first long one with the new bars and really enjoyed it, better position, better leverage...

Are the brake and cluch levers new as well?

[skelstar]

Wooo, those are some of those CRG adjustable levers eh Nigel?

[Kendog]

Love the new bars now I have done some K's with them.

There are no quite as wide as the last ones so sometimes find my grip is in the wrong place. But it feels like the right width and has got me more on a forward lean which takes some pressure of the lower back when hitting bumps.

The leavers are Pazzos. Really sweet, comfortable and adjustable. Look nice as well.

I gotta stop looking at the net for more mods :mellow:

[Kendog]

new indicators

What indicators are those? they look nice.

[WickedOne]

Cheers, Just the Oxford Mini's, short stem and black.

[skelstar]

Nige - where did you get those levers and how much?

[Kendog]

Cheers, Just the Oxford Mini's, short stem and black.

It looks like they have clear lenses. Did they come with clear lenses?

[Kendog]

Nige - where did you get those levers and how much?

They came from here (http://www.motomummy.com/pazzo.html)

Not cheap, but its only money I guess.

[gijoe1313]

That is absolutely bling bling gorgeous! :niceone: I'm ordering in some new chrome clocks to go with my new front fender... 2-3 weeks from UK (nice people, they have two prices...must have now and wait a little longer :lol: )

$600 including p+p ... getting some new handlebars as well and some indicators tomorrow!

[Trudes]

They came from here (http://www.motomummy.com/pazzo.html)

Not cheap, but its only money I guess.

Hey, you're not meant to tell others about our secret bling havens! Geeze.

[WickedOne]

It looks like they have clear lenses. Did they come with clear lenses?

Yeah, they came from the UK http://www.bikebitzuk.co.uk/ and have a clear lense and you can see the orange lense through it. They doo look a lot better than the standard orange lense. If you decide to buy anything through these guys please let me know as it is a bit complicated but they have very good prices!!!

[Trudes]

Oh, and just a reminder that my sexy bike is in my profile pic with its new blingy bits too. I LOVE the new (to me, Nigel's hand-me-downs) bars, they are nice and wide and have cut out all that nasty vibration so no longer suffer from numb hands!

[WickedOne]

Just to tempt you all, there are some really nice (and well priced) 919 bling bits here http://store.58cycle.com/ :shit:

[Kendog]

Some nice bling in there.

I can recommend the Clear Alternatives LED tail light with smoked lens.

I just need to find some indicators with clear or smoked lenses that I like.

[skelstar]

I just need to find some indicators with clear or smoked lenses that I like.
Buell indicators. $29 a pair (I think).

[WickedOne]

Some nice bling in there.

I can recommend the Clear Alternatives LED tail light with smoked lens.

I just need to find some indicators with clear or smoked lenses that I like.

I am quite partial to the integrated tail light/ indicators, The left and right hand side halves of the brake light have orange LEDs amongst the red brake LEDs and the entire half flashes when either indicator is on. Thus you have no need to have separate indicators at all, cleans up the rear very nicely. Now to just find out if they are 'E' stamped and legal....

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[maniac]

Well my bars etc arrived today (it only took a week from the UK!!!) Spent the day putting them and some new indicators on. Will try them out on the ATNR tonight and update you all tomorrow. Some pics...

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Where did you get your bars from, the places I'v found dont ship to NZ?

[rua]

I have the int taillight/indicators, where would i see the "E" mark? I butchered the spade but below the old indicator mounts, It is a yearly warrant for me and quick on off if it proves to be a problem. I doubt there will be one, but been wrong sooo many times before........

[WickedOne]

Where did you get your bars from, the places I'v found dont ship to NZ?

www.bikebitzuk.co.uk

They don't accept NZ credit cards and it involved an international fund transfer so PM me if you need more details. Once they have dealt with you once they will accept your credit card in the future.

[WickedOne]

I have the int taillight/indicators, where would i see the "E" mark? I butchered the spade but below the old indicator mounts, It is a yearly warrant for me and quick on off if it proves to be a problem. I doubt there will be one, but been wrong sooo many times before........

The e-mark should be stamped on the actual lens.

[rua]

nup no e-mark that I can see on my clear alternatives smoke lens, cross that bridge if/when I need too.

[Deviant Esq]

Great thread, makes good reading. I've got a bit of a soft spot for Hornets and will no doubt be considering one somewhere down the line. Beaut machines, the Kendogs :)

Just one question though - has lowering Mrs. KD's machine (how much by total?) affected the ground clearnace much? Still able to biff it into corners without grinding the pegs too early? Reason I ask is despite not being a short guy (I'm 5'10"ish) I like having a slightly lower bum position as it's more comfortable when stopped at lights etc and would consider lowering mine a smidge. Opinion? Cheers guys! Keep up the good work. :sunny:

[Trudes]

Great thread, makes good reading. I've got a bit of a soft spot for Hornets and will no doubt be considering one somewhere down the line. Beaut machines, the Kendogs :)

Just one question though - has lowering Mrs. KD's machine (how much by total?) affected the ground clearnace much? Still able to biff it into corners without grinding the pegs too early? Reason I ask is despite not being a short guy (I'm 5'10"ish) I like having a slightly lower bum position as it's more comfortable when stopped at lights etc and would consider lowering mine a smidge. Opinion? Cheers guys! Keep up the good work. :sunny:

Thanks DE.
My bike has probably been lowered by about 2inchs (at a guess) by the shock and the seat being done. So far (touch wood) I haven't had any ground clearance issues, although I have had to have the side stand hacked twice as the lean was not enough to be able to park it on a slight righthand slope.
As for grinding pegs, I'm not that good of a rider (yet), but hopefully it won't be too much of an issue. The Ohlins shock and the lowering of the front through the forks has made the bike more "biffable" into corners, I believe it corners faster, ie. dives into corners faster than before, and has made the overall handling better and the ride smoother.
Hope this helps!!

[Cajun]

Great thread, makes good reading. I've got a bit of a soft spot for Hornets and will no doubt be considering one somewhere down the line. Beaut machines, the Kendogs :)

Just one question though - has lowering Mrs. KD's machine (how much by total?) affected the ground clearnace much? Still able to biff it into corners without grinding the pegs too early? Reason I ask is despite not being a short guy (I'm 5'10"ish) I like having a slightly lower bum position as it's more comfortable when stopped at lights etc and would consider lowering mine a smidge. Opinion? Cheers guys! Keep up the good work. :sunny:

Lowering the bike does not really effect the pegs grinding, at most road speeds, you would notice the difference at track, but at 5'10 you should have really any need to lower a bike i would think, take a touch out of the seat, and you be fine. with out even worrying about the shock.

[Deviant Esq]

Thanks Cajun.
Yeah, I know I wouldn't really need to lower a bike at my height. I'm not really short, more in the average range. It's kind of a taste thing for me I suppose. I just feel more comfortable a smidgin closer to the ground for low speed stuff and ducking into corners. And I've gotta confess, I like the hunkered look of Mrs Kendog's machine - I'd hit that. :cool:

Reason I was asking about ground clearance issues is because while my current bike - the NZ250 - has quite a low seat, lower than other 250s it's been lined up next to, the pegs are quite high. But I still ground my boots frequently enough when tilted over on it, so I thought I'd ask the question for future reference. And the Hornet would have much better tyres than my humble NZ... :innocent:

I'd probably change the rear shock anyway, just to improve the handling a bit as Mrs KD says (good description of the effects, thanks), but whether or not I'd lower it a little at the same time is what I'm trying to get a feel for. This is the perfect thread for that. :) *Subscribes*

[Trudes]

A lot of people recommend simply lowering the front slightly through the forks for improved cornering, cheaper than the whole shock replace too.

[TerminalAddict]

hey guys and gal...
I've got an opportunity to get some renthal 758 bars

will they do the job? be the bizzo?

[Morcs]

Kendog if you are ever stupid enough to consider selling it, pm me :)

[Kendog]

hey guys and gal...
I've got an opportunity to get some renthal 758 bars

will they do the job? be the bizzo?

That is the Ultra low bar and it comes highly recommend on the US and UK Hornet forums.
I have just swapped to this bar and love it. If you are changing from stock you will notice the following:
Wider grip position
More lean forward in your riding position (the bar is much flatter)
Vibes almost gone completely.

Get this bar, you will not be disappointed.


Kendog if you are ever stupid enough to consider selling it, pm me :)

May be a while away yet, I still love this bike.

[WickedOne]

That is the Ultra low bar and it comes highly recommend on the US and UK Hornet forums.
I have just swapped to this bar and love it. If you are changing from stock you will notice the following:
Wider grip position
More lean forward in your riding position (the bar is much flatter)
Vibes almost gone completely.

Get this bar, you will not be disappointed.



I'll second that, you can't go wrong with the Ultra Lows, they are really awesome!!!!!

[TerminalAddict]

what effect does having wider bars mean? (n00b alert !!! )

lower bars are what I'm after, not sure about wider bars tho'

[Kendog]

what effect does having wider bars mean? (n00b alert !!! )

lower bars are what I'm after, not sure about wider bars tho'

I always found my hands unconsciously moving wider on the stock bars, to the point where I was having problems with the accelerator. To me the stock bars are just too narrow.

With wider bars you should notice more leverage steering wise e.g. for counter steering. I think it is a more natural riding position as well.

[98tls]

Considering changing the bars on my TL.As you stated the wider bars give great leverage........i road a bandit awhile back with some wide bars and it made the thing feel like a large motorcross bike.......awsome.....the only thing is for me to do it i have to cut away a bit of the fairing.........:gob:

[TerminalAddict]

I guess I could always cut a few mm off each end if I don't like the length (width)

[Kendog]

I guess I could always cut a few mm off each end if I don't like the length (width)

Yep, I have heard of people doing that.

[skelstar]

Bear in mind that you have to leave enough flat bar to mount mirrors as well...something i found out :o

[Kendog]

Could always mount mirrors on the bar ends (if you don't lane split)

You bike is missing in your profile picture, did you run down that nice looking bit of road?

[skelstar]

Yeah, thats my 'who stole my fucking bike' look.

In the distance you can see Keystone19, Quasi, Zapf and co coming down the hill. They're catching up. Im at the Otira Gorge lookout...wearing my Camembert pants Mrs K...:mellow:

[98tls]

Could always mount mirrors on the bar ends (if you don't lane split)

You bike is missing in your profile picture, did you run down that nice looking bit of road? Bar ends are so much better than anything ive ever had oem........with these i can lane split all i like with no worrys

[skelstar]

Hmmm....been thinking about bar end mirrors a bit recently. Where did you source them from TL? Seen some on eBay for about US$50...

[Kendog]

Bar ends are so much better than anything ive ever had oem........with these i can lane split all i like with no worrys

Damn your bike looks nice. (Did I say that in my Honda thread :shit: )

The mirrors I have now stick out a little wider than the bars and I have hit car mirrors a couple of times, but the bars are fairly wide as well I guess. This is while splitting a row of cars stopped at traffic lights. I am sure they are leaving as small a gap as possible to piss me off, bastards.

[98tls]

Hmmm....been thinking about bar end mirrors a bit recently. Where did you source them from TL? Seen some on eBay for about US$50... Got a mate in Aussie that works here...........www.austreetfighter.com.au

[98tls]

I think i can get you a set for $75 AUS plus post.......which is bugger all.....would have to check if they still have em.

[skelstar]

*low whistle*...not bad. Let me know eh? I have severe mirror line-up problems. They are mounted on the bend of my bars because I didn't get the wrong bars. Looks real shit.

[98tls]

*low whistle*...not bad. Let me know eh? I have severe mirror line-up problems. They are mounted on the bend of my bars because I didn't get the wrong bars. Looks real shit. will take a close up pic of em so you know what your gettin........give me a day or 2........nightshift sucks eh.........if they still have em will be in touch.

[Trudes]

immmmmmmmmm, cheese.:innocent:

[WickedOne]

*low whistle*...not bad. Let me know eh? I have severe mirror line-up problems. They are mounted on the bend of my bars because I didn't get the wrong bars. Looks real shit.

It's really funny how we always seem to be looking for more bling and how our trains of thought run in the same direction!!!! I am keen on some of these Oberon Billet Bar End Mirrors in black....mmmmmmm.... purdy....... (and they don't stick out any further than the end of the bar ends!!!)

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[skelstar]

They would with mine as I have Ducati 996/998 ones!...would thinnk that was flash but they are plastic and cost about $5!

[HenryDorsetCase]

Reason I was asking about ground clearance issues is because while my current bike - the NZ250 - has quite a low seat, lower than other 250s it's been lined up next to, the pegs are quite high. But I still ground my boots frequently enough when tilted over on it, so I thought I'd ask the question for future reference. And the Hornet would have much better tyres than my humble NZ... :innocent:

I'd probably change the rear shock anyway, just to improve the handling a bit as Mrs KD says (good description of the effects, thanks), but whether or not I'd lower it a little at the same time is what I'm trying to get a feel for. This is the perfect thread for that. :) *Subscribes*

Ive posted elsewhere that i think the upgrade shock and fork option is THE best money you can spend on these bikes, yay for Ohlins....

Ive never needed more ground clearance on the road, but in one day on the track I disappeared both hero knobs and into the footpeg itself on the left. and thats with some knee down action as well. the footpegs are low on these bikes and lets face it they arent full on scratchers.... just great all round bikes.

I personally think it would be a bad idea for a spirited rider to lower this bike unless you really had to.

[TerminalAddict]

I may have some renthals in the back of my car :shifty:

might have something to do this weekend too <_<

[Kendog]

Sweet.

Don't forget to let us know what you think of them, and pictures of course.

[98tls]

None of the ones i have on mine left sorry mate.......only whats on there website..........theres all sorts of nice barend mirrors around but most are just way over priced for what they are.........i know another bloke in aussie that offered me a set the same awhile back.......i will see if he still has them.

[skelstar]

Cool. Thanks for the effort eh.

[98tls]

FWIW theres a pic of em anyway.......pretty sure brett will still have the ones he offered me.........would they work for you?

[skelstar]

The barends I have are pretty much plastic plugs that you wack in (yup Ducati ones). I think those ones look like they bolt onto the end?

[98tls]

They have a clamp that goes around a little barend that screws into your oem barends........getting a bit messy really as no point in getting them if they dont fit eh.........if there is a bolt/screw in the end of your barend then theyd work..............

[skelstar]

My ones are basicaly like these ones. Kinda. I have these ones because my bar is a Pizzaz (I know, sexy name) and it has a tiny internal diameter.

<img src="http://www.bevelheaven.com/Products/1-bar_end_plug.jpg">

[98tls]

yea mate..........doesnt look like they would work eh............

[skelstar]

I need to replace my bars. Maybe Mr K could help me one weekend... (you did yours eh Nigel?)

[Trudes]

I need to replace my bars. Maybe Mr K could help me one weekend... (you did yours eh Nigel?)

Bahhhhhhahahahaha, yeah right!! He won't even change his own oil and shit, I have to learn to do that so I can do it for him. My husband is not a DIY dude unfortunately!:dodge:

[98tls]

There ya go skel..........mrs kendog will change em for you.......:innocent:

[TerminalAddict]

I might take a crack this weekend (depends on WAF)

but I'll take lots'o'noodles .. erm I mean pics during the change :yes:

[Trudes]

There ya go skel..........mrs kendog will change em for you.......:innocent:

Yeah ok!!, (Like that's going to happen, he's met me remember!):eek:
Oh and I charge $30 an hour, cheap aye!

[skelstar]

Oh and I charge $30 an hour, cheap aye!
Then Nigel must work very long hours to afford you girl :niceone: I hope you charge in 6minute blocks. :shifty:

[Trudes]

Then Nigel must work very long hours to afford you girl :niceone: I hope you charge in 6minute blocks. :shifty:

Oh he makes payment in other special ways!:mellow:

[Kendog]

OMG

I leave the PC for a few minutes........

It is true, I am not mechanically minded :shutup:

[Kendog]

I need to replace my bars. Maybe Mr K could help me one weekend... (you did yours eh Nigel?)

Have you got some new bars?

[98tls]

send her off to mechanic school mate..............hey who knows it could turn into something big...........get her fixin blokes bikes in a bikini whilst you ummm i dunno....supervise........

[skelstar]

I haven't yet but it has to be done (12months later). I want some gold ones (yummy)...

[skelstar]

...ummm i dunno....supervise........
Funny you should say that, heres Nigel in his work clothes:

<img src="http://www.seussaza.org/oftheday/pimp.jpg">

[Trudes]

send her off to mechanic school mate..............hey who knows it could turn into something big...........get her fixin blokes bikes in a bikini whilst you ummm i dunno....supervise........

LOL, and you obviously have never met me otherwise you'd never use my name and bikini in the same sentence!!

[Kendog]

Funny you should say that, heres Nigel in his work clothes:

<img src="http://www.seussaza.org/oftheday/pimp.jpg">

Pimp my bike

[TerminalAddict]

first hiccup .. .how do I get the bar ends off??

[98tls]

first hiccup .. .how do I get the bar ends off?? This could be a long night........:dodge:

[TerminalAddict]

tehehe .. nah given up .. moved on to whiskey ... surprisingly the bottle top was much easier to remove ;)

[Zapf]

Yeah, thats my 'who stole my fucking bike' look.

In the distance you can see Keystone19, Quasi, Zapf and co coming down the hill. They're catching up. Im at the Otira Gorge lookout...wearing my Camembert pants Mrs K...:mellow:

nice photo :)

[Zapf]

Great thread, makes good reading. I've got a bit of a soft spot for Hornets and will no doubt be considering one somewhere down the line. Beaut machines, the Kendogs :)

Just one question though - has lowering Mrs. KD's machine (how much by total?) affected the ground clearnace much? Still able to biff it into corners without grinding the pegs too early? Reason I ask is despite not being a short guy (I'm 5'10"ish) I like having a slightly lower bum position as it's more comfortable when stopped at lights etc and would consider lowering mine a smidge. Opinion? Cheers guys! Keep up the good work. :sunny:

I am around your hight and find that I pretty much have foot flat on the ground most times. And I have also put in an ohlins shock and suprisingly the front forks are quite good, so they are working well together on the bike. Also having the rear higher or the front lowered will make it corner faster.

[ceebie13]

...Oh and I charge $30 an hour, cheap aye!

Woohoo! Some girls will do anything to supplement their income!! Does Nige take photos too?

[TerminalAddict]

so without sounding like a complete n00b :)

how do I remove bar ends?

There's a screw in the end, but the bar end moves about 12mm without touching the screw.
I gave the screw a fair yank last night, and it wouldn't move
am I perhaps just a poor little white office worker with no strength? or am I missing something?

[skelstar]

Undo the screw, pull the barend out. Thats all I remember :mellow:

[TerminalAddict]

poor little white office worker it is then :yes:

[skelstar]

Haha tried twisting the barend as you pull it out?

[TerminalAddict]

are we still talking about the handle bars ??? :dodge:

[Waylander]

FWIW theres a pic of em anyway.......pretty sure brett will still have the ones he offered me.........would they work for you?
There have been a few sets like those floating around Ebay everynow and then.

[TerminalAddict]

ok guys ... what bar end options have I got for the renthals???

bar ends from OEM bars don't fit.

[Kendog]

ok guys ... what bar end options have I got for the renthals???

bar ends from OEM bars don't fit.

I have some black renthal bar ends you could buy if you want.

I now have some different ones.

[TerminalAddict]

yeah bro :)

how much .. got some pics, what size etc (diameter)

[Warr]

I have some black renthal bar ends you could buy if you want.

I now have some different ones.
Since Paul hasnt asked... Did you need any bar-end weights.
Do the mirrors suffer any undue blurriness at any revs ?

[TerminalAddict]

Since Paul hasnt asked... Did you need any bar-end weights.
Do the mirrors suffer any undue blurriness at any revs ?

yeah .. what he said :D

[Trudes]

I haven't noticed any vibrations in the mirrors so can't see any need for bar end weights.

[Kendog]

yeah bro :)

how much .. got some pics, what size etc (diameter)

Sorry for the delay.

$30 + post and they are yours.

No probs with vibes once you have Renthal bars on. I guess thats why their own bar ends are not weighted.

[TerminalAddict]

sold! assuming they fit :)

can you do a diameter measurement?

the internal diameter of my bars is 15mm (or pretty damn close to that)

PM me details
Paul.

[WickedOne]

Hey guys, just to get off the handlebar topic for a moment....

I know there are tons of tyre threads around but would like some "Hornet specific" tyre advice. I have had Pirelli Diablo Strada tyres on my 'net and they have lasted me 8000km. I was hoping to get a set of the new Mitchelin Pilot Road 2 (http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=66) but they are only comming into the country next month and I don't know if I can wait that long.

I do about 400km of commuting (come rain or shine) a week and "spirited" riding on the weekends.

What tyres, have you found, are the best on your Hornets? (Please include what kind of mileage you get out of them as well)

[TerminalAddict]

I've done 8000 in metzeler M3 .. and will probably get another 1000 from the back (hopefully)

I will be replacing it with the same tyre .. its great .. altho' I've heard not as good as strada in the wet

[WickedOne]

I've done 8000 in metzeler M3 .. and will probably get another 1000 from the back (hopefully)

I will be replacing it with the same tyre .. its great .. altho' I've heard not as good as strada in the wet

Cheers. Yeah, they haven't given me any problems at all, may just get another set and get the new Pilot Road 2 next time....

[Waylander]

I've done 8000 in metzeler M3 .. and will probably get another 1000 from the back (hopefully)

Try riding on the centre of the tyre for a while. you don't always have to be leaned right over you know.

[WickedOne]

I've done 8000 in metzeler M3 .. and will probably get another 1000 from the back (hopefully)

I will be replacing it with the same tyre .. its great .. altho' I've heard not as good as strada in the wet

What kind of riding do you do btw? commuting/"spirited' riding/ touring....?

[TerminalAddict]

weekend long tours with the missus on back every 2 months. (roughly)
2 rides every week (which always turn out to be "spirited")
the mid week rides is normally about 100-130kms long
the weekend ride often develops into a 500 kms all day ride (much to the disapproval of the wife :D ) .. but not always
the occassional commute (but tyres cost too much to go to work and back again :) )

the edge of the rear tyre has been found more than once ;)

Occassionally "back in" to a corner .. which is hard on rear tyres

so mostly "spirited" riding

[WickedOne]

weekend long tours with the missus on back every 2 months. (roughly)
2 rides every week (which always turn out to be "spirited")
the mid week rides is normally about 100-130kms long
the weekend ride often develops into a 500 kms all day ride (much to the disapproval of the wife :D ) .. but not always
the occassional commute (but tyres cost too much to go to work and back again :) )

the edge of the rear tyre has been found more than once ;)

Occassionally "back in" to a corner .. which is hard on rear tyres

so mostly "spirited" riding

Sweet as, the 400km of commuting that I do every week is my main problem.... think I need a commuting bike and a "fun" bike.....

How 'bout the rest of you Hornet rider?

[Warr]

Sweet as, the 400km of commuting that I do every week is my main problem.... think I need a commuting bike and a "fun" bike.....

How 'bout the rest of you Hornet rider?
As an acomplas to TA's "spirited" rides. I am on the Diablo Strada's and was amazed at their lack of wear during our SI adventure. That was 2 up + pack and 4500k's. What amazed me was the lack of wear. The riding was sidate and over christmas/new year weather was coolish, but comparing the front before and after, it was if I had done a ride around the block.
Now was it the dual compound Strada or was it the cooler weather.. Mm Probably the later but I'll prob keep with them when it comes time to change

[skelstar]

Got 10000kms out of a Strada rear, 10000kms out of ContiRoadAttack rear and front. Only about 5000kms out of a SportAttack rear (spirited SI touring). Will be gettting Road Attacks again.

[Kendog]

100km commute each week.
Bit of a blat in the weekends and the odd trip round the North Island.

Bridgestone BT20's 12,000km on the back. But probably should have been replaced about 1000km earlier :nono:

Swapped front and back to Road attacks. These feel good and have done about 5,000km so far. Wear looks pretty good.

The replacement for the BT20's, the BT21 sound like a good type and will probably be what I go to next.

[WickedOne]

Cheers for the feedback guys!!! :rockon:

[TerminalAddict]

9100kms and she's parked in the garage until pay day :cry:

[BTM]

Hey Guys

Sorry about the rather unexplained entry to this thread but im really after something like this as the naked look is what im after ( couldnt live with myself if i dropped etc ) anyway a few questions on the hornets 250 in particular.

1. What sort of "go" do these things have how torquey and powerfull ?
2. Any outa the shop upgrades you would suggest i see lower bars is quite a common thought
3. Could i use one for a track day ( a little supermoto ) with a few of modifications to make it moto friendly.
4. Most importantly i suposse would you suggest/reccomend the hornet to me (6ft 85 kg).

Thanks Alot Guys

Great Thread

[Kendog]

Hey Guys
Sorry about the rather unexplained entry to this thread but im really after something like this as the naked look is what im after ( couldnt live with myself if i dropped etc ) anyway a few questions on the hornets 250 in particular.

Calling GIJOE.

BTM, not sure about the 250 other than it looks like a great bike :yes:

Send GIJOE1313 a PM, he has one and has done plenty of K's and mods.

[BTM]

ok cheers for that mate will send a pm :rockon:

[TerminalAddict]

some piccies
(still no bar ends :cry: .. maybe monday)

light installed ths weekend (big thanks to Warr :first: )

[TerminalAddict]

stoopid forum software and manage attachments thingee :|

[Trudes]

some piccies
(still no bar ends :cry: .. maybe monday)



Oh you are kidding, bloody NZ Post!!! Right, they are going to get IT on Monday!!
Nah, I'll try to chase them up for ya from here, but if they can't track them down, we'll just refund ya. That really shits me though, damn it, I hate when things go missing like that!:angry:

[TerminalAddict]

quik blat over the divi and back again:

lights increase "ambient" light .. meaning I can't see more around me, for about 80 metres maybe.

I hear rumours that I can get different bulbs tht produce a different light pattern .. either way, much improvement in night vision :niceone:

[WickedOne]

quik blat over the divi and back again:

lights increase "ambient" light .. meaning I can't see more around me, for about 80 metres maybe.

I hear rumours that I can get different bulbs tht produce a different light pattern .. either way, much improvement in night vision :niceone:

Are you still using the standard bulb in your headlight? I bought a Hella Xenon H4 headlight bulb (Phillips stamped on the metal part of the bulb) which has got the blue tint on the top of the bulb. I am amazed by the difference. The say you get about 50% more light out of it and I am over the moon, it has made such an improvement to night riding. I highly recommend to all Hornet riders!!!!!! :Punk:

[Kendog]

We also have +50 bulbs. Much better and a lot more visible to oncoming traffic in daylight as well.

[Zapf]

wow interesting lights TerminalAddict. I was going to do the exact same thing just before entering the grand challange on my Hornet. But I put in some Hella Xeon +50 as well and it made the main light good enough, so I didn't followup with the extra light upgrade.

Replacing the standard bulb with the +50 make a heck of a lot different.

[TerminalAddict]

tehehe .. seems the GC causes lots of head aches for lots of people.

where would I find one of these bulbs people are talking of?

[98tls]

The guy that owned the TL before me must have changed bulbs as theres a spot in the middle of each light thats got so hot its melted the cover............

[Zapf]

tehehe .. seems the GC causes lots of head aches for lots of people.
where would I find one of these bulbs people are talking of?

Your local auto electrical shop should be able to help, they are the Hella / Philips bulbs. Do NOT buy the Nevia ones.


The guy that owned the TL before me must have changed bulbs as theres a spot in the middle of each light thats got so hot its melted the cover............

That would be most likely if they put in like 75 or 100W bulbs...

[TerminalAddict]

so recommend indicators to me folks.

I want to do the old "cut down rear end" job next I reckon :yes:

[rua]

TA, Clear Alternatives LED smoke integrated tail light/ indicators, go on you know you want to...

[skelstar]

Not really a huge fan of that concept. Thinking more about the people that ride with me than cagers I guess.

[TerminalAddict]

Where is Mr Kendog ??? I quite fancy his rear end <_<

:innocent:

:buggerd:

[Kendog]

Where is Mr Kendog ??? I quite fancy his rear end <_<

:innocent:

:buggerd:

A secret admirer :rockon: but wishing you had kept it secret :gob:

Clear alternatives LED smoked lens and Oxford indicators.

Here it is, shaking it's ass.....

[gijoe1313]

Ohhh behave, grrrowf! :love: 'Tis a pity you are giving the Hornet the old spanish archer! It looks like the dogs bollocks after all that TLC and blinging you've done on it! :weep:

Ah well, enjoy while you can! :niceone:

[TerminalAddict]

bar ends in :niceone:

Thanks Mr and Mrs dog

[Kendog]

Ohhh behave, grrrowf! :love: 'Tis a pity you are giving the Hornet the old spanish archer! It looks like the dogs bollocks after all that TLC and blinging you've done on it! :weep:

Ah well, enjoy while you can! :niceone:

Went for a longer ride on the Gixxer 750 in the weekend and realised how much I like the Hornets friendly riding position :scooter: so may be keeping the Hornet a little while longer yet.

But there are always other options out there, did someone say Speed Tripple :innocent:

No worries with the bar ends TA. Not much more blinging left to do now (tui)

[Deviant Esq]

Ah, Mr Kendog sir... Ah, if you *cough* might end up contemplating maybe *mumble* moving on to another machine soon... do you think it'd, um, be possible to, err, donate your Hornet to a worthy and err... Deviant cause? :innocent:

Ahem, sorry about that, not sure what came over me... :whistle: In other words, love your bike, love your work... do you know how much would you might ask for it?! You know, going to another caring and up-and-coming KBer and all that... :D

[Zapf]

Went for a longer ride on the Gixxer 750 in the weekend and realised how much I like the Hornets friendly riding position :scooter: so may be keeping the Hornet a little while longer yet.

But there are always other options out there, did someone say Speed Tripple :innocent:

No worries with the bar ends TA. Not much more blinging left to do now (tui)

Ever thought dropping a CBR954 motor into the Hornet? I thought it will go really well :) Or have a ride on a CBR954 :P

[Kendog]

Ever thought dropping a CBR954 motor into the Hornet? I thought it will go really well :) Or have a ride on a CBR954 :P

Swap the engine, that's a mod I had not thought of :eek:

Don't see many 954s around, but if I do see one I will give it a try.

[Kendog]

Ah, Mr Kendog sir... Ah, if you *cough* might end up contemplating maybe *mumble* moving on to another machine soon... do you think it'd, um, be possible to, err, donate your Hornet to a worthy and err... Deviant cause? :innocent:

Ahem, sorry about that, not sure what came over me... :whistle: In other words, love your bike, love your work... do you know how much would you might ask for it?! You know, going to another caring and up-and-coming KBer and all that... :D

There have been murmers around these parts that I may be looking for another bike, I will PM you after work today.

[TerminalAddict]

did you flashing problems with the indicators?

*waits for the silly jokes*

[TerminalAddict]

indicators purchased at lunch time :niceone:

something to play with tonight

[limbimtimwim]

Oh no. More faulty Hornet blinkers...

They all say "Yeah, I'll fix that one day.."

[TerminalAddict]

couple of questions:

1. how do the front indicators come off?
2. what have you done with the mount brack being a different shape? perhaps a rubber boot type thing?

[Kendog]

couple of questions:

1. how do the front indicators come off?
2. what have you done with the mount brack being a different shape? perhaps a rubber boot type thing?

If you got the Oxfords, there is an adapter set you can buy as well that makes them line up with the stock holes.

To remove the front ones you need to get in the back. Not much room there but its a little easier when the headlight is removed.

[TerminalAddict]

If you got the Oxfords, there is an adapter set you can buy as well that makes them line up with the stock holes.

damn ... bloody honda shop didn't sell me those adapters :) (yes I got the oxford ones)
better go visit tomorrow ;)



To remove the front ones you need to get in the back. Not much room there but its a little easier when the headlight is removed.

Got it :niceone: .... just wanted to confirm that is actually how I should be doing it .. thanks

[TerminalAddict]

clickety click

indicators for the front on back order, due next week

[Kendog]

clickety click

indicators for the front on back order, due next week

Much better :yes:

[Waylander]

clickety click

indicators for the front on back order, due next week
You know, all the prettying up you do wont mean much with that half zimmer frame hanging off the back. lol


Looks good mate.:Punk:

[Trudes]

So far (touch wood) I haven't had any ground clearance issues,.... as for grinding pegs, I'm not that good of a rider (yet), but hopefully it won't be too much of an issue.

Ok, I lied, it's starting to become an issue, especially if the road camber is a certain way, don't think it has too much to do with my improving riding though, more like I need to stop eating bloody easter eggs!!!:angry:

[Deviant Esq]

Or maybe adjust your rear shock? :whistle:

It'll only be one 'dog displaying Hornet mods now! And depending on how green she becomes looking at a Suzuki (*Gasp!*), it might not be around for that long either! The end of an era.

I still think he should have given his old Hornet to me... :innocent:

[Trudes]

Or maybe adjust your rear shock? :whistle:

It'll only be one 'dog displaying Hornet mods now! And depending on how green she becomes looking at a Suzuki (*Gasp!*), it might not be around for that long either! The end of an era.

I still think he should have given his old Hornet to me... :innocent:

hehe, nup, I'M KEEPING MY HORNET!! And I haven't got many more mods I want to do, so it could be a bit quiet.:shutup:
Funny though, he says to me this morning "Do you want me to leave you my bike to go for a ride on today?" I'm sure it's because it was raining and he didn't want his bike getting wet, the cheek of it!:gob:
I should have a play with the shock, I'll just mark where he set it up for me before I start stuffing about with it. (Honestly I actually haven't put on any weight since the shock was put in, I just feel like a blimp cause it's getting colder! so maybe I am getting better, might have to start thrashing the K7 about!):dodge:

[Deviant Esq]

I'm sure Mr Kendog would agree that you don't look like a blimp even if you might feel like one. ;)
I know exactly what you mean though - I have my moments when I feel like one as well... just feel bloated and horrible. Still, I know I'm gradually losing weight through keeping control of my eating, eating fruit for a snack instead of other things... and just being more active. Not that I'm saying you need to lose weight (that's me), just that I'm sure you look just fine. :sunny:

This thread's been really good reading for me over the weeks... it's been in my subscribed threads list for ages and will provide a good reference for me to come back to when I'm considering fettling. Always had a bit of soft spot for the Hornet 900 - but then, I like Hondas generally anyway. Still, I might not get one for some time yet, it probably won't be my "first big bike," but you never know. But anyway, some mods listed on here will work just nicely with other bikes too, so it's still been a good reference!

Good luck for the future! Now Mr. KD's gonna be thinking about modding the GSXR. First on the list: How to Get the Paint to Stay On While Waterblasting? :dodge:

[Trudes]

I'm sure Mr Kendog would agree that you don't look like a blimp even if you might feel like one. ;)
I know exactly what you mean though - I have my moments when I feel like one as well... just feel bloated and horrible. Still, I know I'm gradually losing weight through keeping control of my eating, eating fruit for a snack instead of other things... and just being more active. Not that I'm saying you need to lose weight (that's me), just that I'm sure you look just fine. :sunny:
Awwww, I like you, you can stay! And he's the one who keeps buying the bloody goodies, so if I turn into a blimp, I'm blaming him!


This thread's been really good reading for me over the weeks... it's been in my subscribed threads list for ages and will provide a good reference for me to come back to when I'm considering fettling. Always had a bit of soft spot for the Hornet 900 - but then, I like Hondas generally anyway. Still, I might not get one for some time yet, it probably won't be my "first big bike," but you never know. Still, some mods listed on here will work just nicely with other bikes too, so it's still been a good reference!: hehe, so evertime I post some crap in here, you get notified, cool!:innocent: Well I went from a GN250 to the 900, so if I can do it, I'm sure anyone can! Go for it!


Good luck for the future! Now Mr. KD's gonna be thinking about modding the GSXR. First on the list: How to Get the Paint to Stay On While Waterblasting? :dodge: thanks! lol, poor bugger bought the K7 and then read all those nasty things about it! He's already started to look for bling goodies, but hopefully the first will be crashknobs, just in case I drop it!:shutup:

[Deviant Esq]

hehe, so evertime I post some crap in here, you get notified, cool!:innocent: Well I went from a GN250 to the 900, so if I can do it, I'm sure anyone can! Go for it!
Yeah, I'm not afraid of the "step up" as such... more that I'm limiting myself financially as to how much I spend on my "first big bike". If we're talking numbers, purely money wise I have enough to go down to the shop and buy myself a 2007 CBR600RR (and god knows I'd love one), but it's not really a viable option. A bike that good would be wasted on me I think, a nice CBR600F3 would most likely do fine. But I still worry that I'd drop it at low speed or at a standstill... and a bike with fairings doesn't like that! I'm used to my NZ with a very low seat height, and weighs so little that it threatens to be blown away on a windy day when parked up somewhere! So yeah, I need to consider what to get next. Thinking of spending up to about $6000 in cash. Would love an NC30, I think they look great and have heard they go great.... but have also heard they cost to keep maintained. Maybe not so good. Sigh. Still... time to test ride everything I can get my paws on? Hope so!


thanks! lol, poor bugger bought the K7 and then read all those nasty things about it! He's already started to look for bling goodies, but hopefully the first will be crashknobs, just in case I drop it!:shutup:
There aren't many things wrong with them really, bloody awesome machines. I'd love to have a ride on one but even if someone let me I'd probably decline for fear of injuring their baby. Not that I can't afford to fix it, but it's the principal. It's someone's baby, a brand new bike, unsullied... just not worth the risk! Crash bungs are a good investment on any bike IMO. I've never crashed, but have put the bike down on the driveway before. Lucky I only have a semi faired bike or I'd have been grizzling!

He'll love the K7 long time. Just remember the paint is a bit of a weak point on them - it can peel / wear easily. Just as bad here in the UK were Suzuki has a bit of a rep for average build quality. Still, hell of a motor, hell of a good handling bike too. I've been on a K6 (admittedly only on the pillion pew), and it always felt planted. Noice.

:sunny:

[Trudes]

I'd love to have a ride on one but even if someone let me I'd probably decline for fear of injuring their baby. Not that I can't afford to fix it, but it's the principal. It's someone's baby, a brand new bike, unsullied... just not worth the risk!

I know what you mean! Nigel asked LBTW if he'd let me take his one for a ride, but I just didn't feel comfortable riding someone elses baby, there are very few people I'd let ride mine, so yeah! I'd never forgive myself hurting someone else bike, I don't even like taking bike shop demos out for much the same reason, if I was really serious about buying one, then yeah maybe!:innocent:

[limbimtimwim]

Would love an NC30, I think they look great and have heard they go great.... but have also heard they cost to keep maintained. Maybe not so good. Sigh. Still... time to test ride everything I can get my paws on? Hope so!The cost of maintenance is only because it is old. It, and the NC35, are reliable bikes. I had 1 problem (That's 1) with my NC35, and it was related to age, not bad design. I've had a couple of problems with the GSXR related to the electrics. An NC30 or NC35 makes a great second bike if you want a racey bike. I got an NC35 as my second bike and I cannot stand to sell it because it is so good.

Also consider the Kawasaki Z750 as well as the Hornet.

[Kendog]

I'm sure Mr Kendog would agree that you don't look like a blimp even if you might feel like one. ;)

No doubt about it :yeah:

[Kendog]

Went for my final ride today on the red wheeled girl :bye:

Took it out to Otaki to her new owner, who is delighted and can't wait to get out on the roads again.

Was a little sad to see her go, but I felt better once I saw my new baby in the garage.

One last picture for old times sake:

[gijoe1313]

:weep: :crybaby: Ah well, at least I got to see it a few times before you passed it onto another appreciative owner! Enjoy your new ride and I'm sure you will be zipping around on trackdays on it in the future! :yes:

[crash99]

Hey Kendog - on your Hornet mods you said:
"Grab rail: Remove this and covered the holes with Rizoma hole caps. Makes the rear end look a lot more stream lined."
I agree, and want to do the same - where'd you get them from?
Many thanks.

[skelstar]

At a guess I would say www.rizoma.it ...

[Kendog]

That is the Rizoma site, but they don't sell retail.

I got them from PJ Parts (http://www.pjsparts.com/). They are excellent people to deal with, no problems with payments and deliveries.

[crash99]

Cool thanks Kendog.

[Harry the Barstard]

Went for my final ride today on the red wheeled girl :bye:

Took it out to Otaki to her new owner, who is delighted and can't wait to get out on the roads again.

Was a little sad to see her go, but I felt better once I saw my new baby in the garage.

One last picture for old times sake:

How did you keep yr pipes clean?:confused:

[Kendog]

How did you keep yr pipes clean?:confused:

Wet and dry sand paper (800/1000 grit) then Mothers metal polish.

[Harry the Barstard]

Wet and dry sand paper (800/1000 grit) then Mothers metal polish.

Cheers, worked a treat. :2thumbsup

[Trudes]

Ok kids, so purchased a Power commander off Pritch08 last year sometime and it's been sitting on my garage work bench waiting for me to save some pinger to get it installed, however was informed that I should really get it dyno tuned at the same time, especially after having the exhausts changed. My bike has been noticeably jerky at low revs since the exhausts were changed, have learned to live with it, but the time had come to get it sorted.
Took the bike into Wellington Motorcycles Yesterday morning, told them they could have it the whole week to change the front sprocket, install the power commander, dyno tune and service my baby. They rang this avo to let me know it was all done and ready to take home, now THAT is service!!
So hubby dearest collected said beast and I took it for a spin when I got home from work.
WEEE JOY RAPTURE :woohoo: :banana:
Smooth, is the first thing I thought, that and , "oh goodness, the power comes on fast now", no more waiting about for it to decide to do something, instant power, revs higher and smoother and gets up to speeds I should not be traveling rather quickly now. Have to say, almost as exciting as the Gixer now, just more comfortable getting there.
Gear changing is also way way easier. I just have to touch the leaver with my boot and up it shifts. Sweet!!!
So there you are, warned you it wasn't exciting, look at this type of bling, but actually more exciting in the riding performance stakes. Now I just need Flame to show me how to do those wheelies!!!:devil2:

[skelstar]

...warned you it wasn't exciting...
Where did you warn us of that? :)

Now you'll REALLY be able to wring its neck at the track day!!!

[TerminalAddict]

mmm got a radar detector stashed somewhere? :D

[Kendog]

In the brief ride I had, it really has made a big difference. Smoother crisper throttle, power on earlier in the rev range and the gear change is sublime.

I will be happier to swap bikes now :niceone:

[Trudes]

Yes Skelsy, much easier to wring its neck now, was having a play last night and it's frighteningly easy now, hohohohoho.:devil2:
And a radar detector may be a good idea...... nah, I'm a good girl and can try to restrain myself!:rolleyes:

[gijoe1313]

I like how all these keen big ol'hornet riders are doing pre-testing of bling for me! :yes: That way I can just put on all the tasty stuff no problem! :woohoo:

Oh yes, my precioussssssss....

[skelstar]

Yes Skelsy, much easier to wring its neck now...
Think you need to find a track out the back of the rapa and REALLY wring its neck.

[Kendog]

Radar detectors will soon be illegal :Police:

The 'real' track is the place to be!

[Deviant Esq]

Good service and well done Welly Motorcycles! Why is it I only ever here good service stories about Wellington bike shops, and crap service stories (and personal experiences too) about Chch bike shops? Something's amiss...

Anyway, great to hear the power commander has finally been installed and nicely tuned, sounds like it'd feel like a whole new bike! After test riding a 900 Hornet myself the other day, and wondering if I was wearing my ear plugs when I wasn't, it was that quiet, I'd say that the exhaust mod would have to be compulsory if you like hearing your bike, as I do... :devil2:

Must be about due some more pics, eh? :innocent:

[slick]

So what has improved the gearbox? Mines a bit 'crunchy' sometimes.