Physio in Wellington

[MrMelon]

Can anyone recommend a good physio in Wellington who'll do ACC work? I did something to my upper back at squash yesterday and it's hurting like a bitch between my shoulder blades whenever I turn/tilt my head. It's weird though cos there was no pain at the time, but it suddenly appeared while I was sitting at home about 2 hours later. It's even worse this morning!

[James Deuce]

Physio's are quacks.

John Xu is an Orthopaedic Surgeon and Chinese Doctor and has done excellent work for me with the same muscle group that I tore to shreds when I broke my neck and back. He was ACC approved then.

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[sels1]

Try John Xu at the TCM clinic - ACC provider and magic at fixing things that hurt

edit - Jim beat me to it but the guy is bloody good

[Hailwood]

try Wakefield back clinic at the wakefield hospital. You dont need a doctor's referral...they fixed my back in 3 weeks after having spent 18 months going to physio and otseos....they rock

[James Deuce]

If you want a never ending series of disappointments go to Wakefield (sorry Hailwood - extensive personal experience). If you want it fixed go to John Xu.

[Sparky Bills]

Mermaids:blip:

[Hailwood]

Thats ok Jim we can only speak of our own personal experiences. Mine was first rate with wakefield...will be interested to see this thread develop..might even try your guy if I ever do my back again...(I hope not though)

[Str8 Jacket]

Mermaids:blip:

Do you think they'd fix my knee up too?

[sels1]

Do you think they'd fix my knee up too?

No, but John Xu will

[Hailwood]

but would John Xu look good in a fish tank? :blip:

[Sparky Bills]

Do you think they'd fix my knee up too?


They migh just do something specail to take your mind off the pain:innocent:

[James Deuce]

but would John Xu look good in a fish tank?
Errrrrr, No.

[Str8 Jacket]

No, but John Xu will


I wonder if he'd give us a 'group' discount... I managed to stuff it up AGAIN last night when the bike landed on it.

Anyway, hope you can get someone to see you today MrM!

[Blackbird]

I've had an identical problem for the last 2 days Mr M! Have had it before and currently controlling the pain and inflammation with Voltaren tablets until I can get to see our local chiropractor. A couple of them really do the trick. Interesting commments by Jim 2 about physios. When I first had this problem a few years back, our physio hurt me and made it worse. I thought chiropractors were related to witch doctors but went to one in desperation and he fixed me straight away. Have continued to go back to him when I get the odd neck or back problem. Guess it's a case of an individual practicioner's competence rather than the actual profession being either good or bad.

[James Deuce]

One thing I discovered in my quest for relief from chronic pain was that there are quite a few different schools of practice in physiotherapy, and they are quite dogmatic about applying their particular method to your problem. Wakefield put me through hell with a manipulative physiotherapist who damaged my spinae erector muscles through very aggressive treatment. John Xu fixed me in three sessions where three years of ACC funded treatment had done absolutely nothing. I ditched the drugs thanks to John as well. I had one Physio who was awesome though, but she was about 75 when I went to see her and retired soon after. Individuals do seem to be the key to good non-invasive care.

John is one of those Chinese unfortunates caught between East and West medical ideals. He came from being qualified in both the Eastaerna nd Western schools of Orthopaedic practice, but was unable to gain registration in New Zealand, hence his "only " qualification being a Bachelor of Medicine.

[MrMelon]

Here's something I lifted off another forum. Although it seems the qualifications differ a fair bit depending on where you are. I'll check John Xu out and see how it goes. Cheers.


The hierarchy of practitioners who fix mechanical problems with the body (sprains, tears, dislocations, etc etc) goes something like this:

PHYSIOTHERAPIST: extensive theoretical and practical training at academic institutions, internationally-recognised certifications. Think of these people as the engineers of the body. They've studied how shit works, they've tested how shit works, and they know why shit happens. The solutions offered by physiotherapists are often hard work, and involve a lot of pain. And the physios don't care. If you're too lazy to do the weeks of painful exercises that will repair your body, it's your own fucking problem.

CHIROPRACTOR: not-so-extensive theoretical and practical training at schools which may or may not be officially recognised, certifications vary from country to country. Think of these people as hobbyists of the body. They don't have the formal background and rigorous testing of the engineers, but they have a pretty good amateur understanding of how shit works. If an engineer designs and tests engines in a laboratory, the hobbyist is good at tweaking his own car for performance in his garage at home. As Pimp-X said above, often chiropractors focus on making the patient feel better rather than fixing the problem.

Physiotherapists and chiropractors sometimes move in the same circles and belong to the same organisations (e.g., the NZ Manipulative Therapists Association), in the same way that you might often see formally-qualified professional computer scientists and bedroom hackers together at a Linux conference.

OSTEOPATH: no required theoretical or practical training. Basically... quacks. This is the "magnets, reflexology, your-pain-is-caused-by-repressed-memories-of-Satanic-abuse" shallow end of the pool. If physiotherapists are engineers, and chiropractors are knowledgable amateurs, then osteopaths are... well, if an engineer designs and tests engines in a laboratory, and the hobbyist is good at tweaking his own car for performance, then the osteopath knows that putting on a bigger exhaust, a spoiler, and lowering the car makes it GO FASTERER!!!1. In the same way that idiot riceboys sometimes do things that actually DO improve performance, the osteopath can sometimes do things that actually DO make the patient feel better. They just don't really know why. The solutions offered by osteopaths usually involve an impressive noise (i.e., they know that if you jerk someone upright, their spine might go "crack") and short-term pain relief. If you start hurting again the moment you walk out the door, the osteopath doesn't know why, but he already has your money... so make another appointment to hear the cool cracking noise! And you felt better immediately! For ten whole minutes! And you didn't have to do ANY work!

[James Deuce]

John's none of the above. He's a Qualified MD and Surgeon in China.

[Toast]

Can anyone recommend a good physio in Wellington who'll do ACC work? I did something to my upper back at squash yesterday and it's hurting like a bitch between my shoulder blades whenever I turn/tilt my head. It's weird though cos there was no pain at the time, but it suddenly appeared while I was sitting at home about 2 hours later. It's even worse this morning!

I've had a similar thing before...and it came from nothing...just walking in the supermarket, next thing I know, a pinch in the nerves just inside right shoulder blade...then later on mega pain from movement.

Best mate and I got the same thing, in the same place, on the same day! I still reckon it was his gf getting jealous and using voodoo.

[Str8 Jacket]

Best mate and I got the same thing, in the same place, on the same day! I still reckon it was his gf getting jealous and using voodoo.

Yep! I reckon that's what happened to MrMelon!

[Biohazard]

Physio's are quacks.

John Xu is an Orthopaedic Surgeon and Chinese Doctor and has done excellent work for me with the same muscle group that I tore to shreds when I broke my neck and back. He was ACC approved then.


Bollocks - Physio's are not quacks - having married a physio who deals with HTU & ITU Patients and runs a rehab programme for amputies and cancer affected patients, the training that she has done along with degree courses. She has greater clinical knowledge than Junior Doctors and S.H.O's..People go on about how wonderfull nurses are, try and look a bit deeper and you will find that Physio's deal with it at a more front line level and are able to run triage ... which alot of medicals can't.

Ooops soap box session...

I love these guys to bits as they also helped my mum who had cancer...and I owe them everything.

[James Deuce]

Bollocks - Physio's are not quacks - having married a physio who deals with HTU & ITU Patients and runs a rehab programme for amputies and cancer affected patients, the training that she has done along with degree courses. She has greater clinical knowledge than Junior Doctors and S.H.O's..People go on about how wonderfull nurses are, try and look a bit deeper and you will find that Physio's deal with it at a more front line level and are able to run triage ... which alot of medicals can't.

Ooops soap box session...

I love these guys to bits as they also helped my mum who had cancer...and I owe them everything.
YOu apologise for the crack about Nurses and I'll try to look a bit harder at the job Physios do.

[Colapop]

It depends on what you've done but I go to Sport and Work fit on Featherston st. ACC is free - unless you get acupunture then it's $3 for the needles. For muscle sprains or joint problems I'd say use them (They're all women too - Jessica is yummy). Very cost effective.

[Biohazard]

YOu apologise for the crack about Nurses and I'll try to look a bit harder at the job Physios do.

kk, apologies re: nurses (as they are very good and caring tbh), aslong as you re look at physio's :blip:

[Colapop]

YOu apologise for the crack about Nurses and I'll try to look a bit harder at the job Physios do.
Mmmm Nurses crack....

[Str8 Jacket]

(They're all women too - Jessica is yummy)

Because that is essential for recovery isnt it?! :p

[Blackbird]

Just to make things really interesting, let's have a crack at human resources, marketing, IT and engineering stereotypes. That ought offend just about everyone who has contributed to this thread:yes:

It all comes back to the individual. I'm a mechanical engineer working in marketing so guess that means there's no hope at all:bye:

[Colapop]

Because that is essential for recovery isnt it?! :p
Absolutely. To be able to properly recover one must be in a state of relaxation. I can't think of anything more relaxing than laying on my back being attended to by a pretty woman! Especially when my wife approves of her...

[Str8 Jacket]

Absolutely. To be able to properly recover one must be in a state of relaxation. I can't think of anything more relaxing than laying on my back being attended to by a pretty woman! Especially when my wife approves of her...

oopsie! I went to give you a greenie for that but hit the "report bad post" thingee instead... lol im a real winner! :doobey:

[Deano]

It is probably more down to the practitioner rather than the practice. (just like martial arts).

I had a very similar problem with my neck Mr Melon - ongoing over several years, kept recurring every few months or weeks if I was unlucky.

Physio was no good, nor was a chiropracter or Doctor who refused to refer me to anyone. Osteopath did the trick though, and under ACC.

Neck is not perfect and tightens up occasionally but I haven't had BAD pain for months. (At one stage I couldn't lift my head off the pillow.)

[sels1]

Interesting commments by Jim 2 about physios. When I first had this problem a few years back, our physio hurt me and made it worse. I thought chiropractors were related to witch doctors but went to one in desperation and he fixed me straight away..

I have had the same experience. Didnt do my opinion of physios much good.

[Toast]

Just to make things really interesting, let's have a crack at human resources, marketing, IT and engineering stereotypes. That ought offend just about everyone who has contributed to this thread:yes:


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[MrMelon]

Cheers for the help. Booked in to see John Xu tomorrow. I got a big crack out of my neck around lunch and got a bit of mobility back since then but it's still not back to normal. Hope this isn't an ongoing thing!

[Colapop]

You're just getting OLD!!

[Str8 Jacket]

You're just getting OLD!!

He's half your age, old man! :p

[Colapop]

Yeah but I'm all healed now now (thanks Jess) and back at the gym...

[MrMelon]

Well I went and saw John Xu yesterday. He stuck pins in my back till I was feeling rather porcupineish but it didn't make me feel any better at the time... then I woke up this morning and my neck's feeling better than it did to begin with! Those chinese sure know how to skewer people!

Cheers for the advice.

[James Deuce]

Freaking odd how that works. Still, a 6000 year old tradition should have at least a couple of things right.

Good to hear you a feeling better.

[Colapop]

.... look out - I'm behind you! Ok I can't say that now coz you can look an see me... That Shiatzu is good for the neck too!