Blame it on the system again

[Indiana_Jones]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10391084

"Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira says the figures will not change until Maori are catered for in mainstream schools"

What the fuck? We have to cater for them? they can cater for the school :wait:

-Indy

[98tls]

:wait: here we go again eh...if they dont accept that we are all new zealanders why dont they Fuck off then...go bludge of another society...doubt theres another as stupid as ours though.

[The_Dover]

Pork bones and pouha all round then is it?

[GR81]

dont make 'angry GR81' come out! :mad:

[SlashWylde]

Here's a thought... I was born in France and raised here in NZ. When I was at school there was no thought given to 'catering' to people of French origins (or Canadian or Chinese or Phillipino....). Being geographically estranged from my culture, in order to be involved in it I had to actively seek out French books, films and interaction with other Francophiles.

Having said that, I never even had a detention at school much less be 'stood down' . I have no criminal convictions, have never asked for a benefit and pay my own way through hard work and dilligence.

Simply put, I turned out OK and retained a connection with my culture through my own efforts.

I fail to see why one particular ethnic group requires special treatment in order to perform at least as well as the general populace. 'Personal responsibility' is the key phrase which springs to mind.

[Grahameeboy]

They get a lot more rights than disabled children....they are NZers.......equal rights etc......there are plenty of deprived white folk....

[Macktheknife]

Here's a thought... 'Personal responsibility' is the key phrase which springs to mind.
Well put, I just love how this is portrayed as a systematic problem then they say this:
Reasons for schools taking action included assaults, arson, drugs, alcohol, sexual harassment, weapons and vandalism.
RRIIIGGHHHT
So we should be surprised that kids are going to school and exhibiting the same actions and models as the parents. But this is a white mans system problem huh?
Hone Harawira says we should cater to this? Bullshit.
Maori should take responsibility for themselves and sharpen up. Put some bloody effort into making improvements in your family model, provide some assistance with all those millions from the settlements, stop advocating violence and abuse in the family, then we will see if the system is the problem.
IMHO the entire Harawira family should be shot or locked up permanently, bunch of lying loser scumbags. I have had personal experience of their crap and I would not trust them to even sit the right way on a toilet!
Rant completed, please return to your previous activity.

[98tls]

:doobey: yippee i guess we can stop throwing money at them then...as its obviously not working.:yes:

[Paul in NZ]

:doobey: yippee i guess we can stop throwing money at them then...as its obviously not working.:yes:

either that or use heavier coins and throw em harder....

[yungatart]

My understanding is that NZ schools MUST cater for Maori and be able to show that they are. Our local High School, with an approx 94% European descent student roll has to prove that they are catering to our Maori students eg Maori deans, powhiri etc to welcome new principal, a marae on the school grounds, links to maori community (that are noted in the school charter - no mention of links to European, Asian or any other culture). So what else is it EXACTLY that we are supposed to do??

[chickenfunkstar]

Hardly surprising that Harawira is advocating for Maori when he's a member of the Maori party is it? Let democracy take its course, if enough people agree with him (highly unlikely i'd say) he'll get his way.

On a hypothetical side note, IF this were to help eliminate the typical Maori stereotype which gets banted around these parts frequently, would you be for or against Harawira's suggestions? (not suggesting the it would in reality, just IF it did)

[Titanium]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10391084

"Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira says the figures will not change until Maori are catered for in mainstream schools"

What the fuck? We have to cater for them? they can cater for the school :wait:

-Indy

So getting rid of "5th form repeat" disadvantaged them?.......... awwwwwww.

Bring it back then.

:rockon:

[98tls]

Cant be that hard...buy a few Boom boxes and a box of spray cans for each school....problem solved..well that one anyway...

[sunhuntin]

for my 7th form graduation bullshit thing, the guy who did the opening speeches did it once in maori, and then in english. my high school, it was about 90% asian, the other 10% whatever else could squeeze in. total crap.

we cater for those bastards too much more....and theyll be treating us like slaves...its where we are heading.

[Filterer]

My partner has just finished "Maori health week" at uni.......
Thats nearly enough in itself

One of the speakers said and i quote

"Equality is racism against Maori"

wtf!!!!

[98tls]

One of the speakers said and i quote

"Equality is racism against Maori"

wtf!!!! i guess we are finding out what the yanks must feel like with the towel heads...there is just no way of reasoning with a human that thinks like that.

[Filterer]

I have no problems with and i understand that Maori have special health needs but just the same as all racial groups have different needs..

I really find that the great percentage of Maori are fine people but the ones that go into politics.....they are another storey

[MattRSK]

This country is just going to end up screwed. Im jumping ship who is with me??

[98tls]

I have no problems with and i understand that Maori have special health needs What special health needs do they have....oh i know..they ate all the moas and know there trying to make KFC extinct

[Filterer]

What special health needs do they have....oh i know..they ate all the moas and know there trying to make KFC extinct

lol yea that speaker was blaming europeans for fast food and TV

[MattRSK]

What special health needs do they have....oh i know..they ate all the moas and know there trying to make KFC extinct
Oh thats brilliant... Bling

[Indiana_Jones]

But why do we sit here and take this? see that's how these c*nts get power. We let it happen, we need some mob justice!

-Indy

[MattRSK]

But why do we sit here and take this? see that's how these c*nts get power. We let it happen, we need some mob justice!

-Indy
Im in. Why do they get more money on the dole. I dont get the dole, i work hard. But I cant see why anyone should get more than someone else. It puzzles me. Makes me sad even.

[Indiana_Jones]

And how is National's equal treatment stance be racist?

This shit is getting crazy, we're bending so far backwards we can see our own arseholes

-Indy

[sunhuntin]

Im in. Why do they get more money on the dole. I dont get the dole, i work hard. But I cant see why anyone should get more than someone else. It puzzles me. Makes me sad even.

matt...im with you....aussie just keeps lookin better! i was on the dole for a while....i could sit on my fat arse on here all day and get paid for it. now im working full time, get extra shifts chucked at me left right and center....and get paid peanuts.

[MattRSK]

matt...im with you....aussie just keeps lookin better! i was on the dole for a while....i could sit on my fat arse on here all day and get paid for it. now im working full time, get extra shifts chucked at me left right and center....and get paid peanuts.

So true. Im an electrician. My mate gone to Aus to drive forklifts. Now he earning more than I am. Little off topic though.

[MattRSK]

Politics (Poll-ih-tiks)
-From Greek root Poly -many and
Tics - Blood sucking parasites

[Swoop]

Communism seems to be the best alternative...
Treat everyone equally, just like shit.

[Indiana_Jones]

Such vermin should be flogged

-Indy

[Jantar]

either that or use heavier coins and throw em harder....
Our new coins will be made of lead, jacketed in copper, and weighing about 180 grains. Is that about the right weight? :whistle:

[Ixion]

Hm 180 grains. S&W or Winchester 40 calibre. Yeah, that'll do, it's close range.

[Lou Girardin]

for my 7th form graduation bullshit thing, the guy who did the opening speeches did it once in maori, and then in english. my high school, it was about 90% asian, the other 10% whatever else could squeeze in. total crap.



Did you walk out in protest?
Did anyone?

[DougB]

I went to school with Maoris, worked with Maoris, have good friends who are Maoris. We only hear about the shit bags and bludgers. Remember there is a majority of good hard working Maori out there, we just dont hear about them.

Most of our problem Maori are products of urban drift. About forty years ago young Maoris migrated to the city they had kids but had no idea how to raise them as in Maori comunities the grandmother looked after the youngsters and instilled the values they required in life.
These new city kids are the main trouble makers. There have been schemes to bring surrogate grandmothers into the citys but it is too late for this present generation.

[scumdog]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10391084

"Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira says the figures will not change until Maori are catered for in mainstream schools"

What the fuck? We have to cater for them? they can cater for the school :wait:

-Indy

So they want to cater for losers????

Fuggit, we are all equal, why cater for losers - the rest of the world won't eh?

[scumdog]

Our new coins will be made of lead, jacketed in copper, and weighing about 180 grains. Is that about the right weight? :whistle:

Saw an ad. from 'another country", described some kind of shotgun load as 'darky-dusters' - maybe for cheeky-darkies??

[scumdog]

O.K, we cut some slack for the 'tinted chappies' ( anybody with1/16 or so Maori) in NZ and they think they have done well.

NOW put them in competition with the rest of the world and how do they look?

Like ferkin 3rd world losers.

And so they screech 'not fair'?

Like the rest of the world will care?

Leave NZ to the radical Maori - and pick up the pieces in 10 years or so.

I feel sorry to the practical hard working genuine Maori that has to carry the burden of the non-working radical.

[98tls]

if the pricks had a job they wouldnt have time for all that radical shit...

[Winston001]

I went to school with Maoris, worked with Maoris, have good friends who are Maoris. We only hear about the shit bags and bludgers. Remember there is a majority of good hard working Maori out there, we just dont hear about them.


Well said. We do forget about all the maori families who do fine, work hard and love their kids.

The fact that a Labour Government has poured hundreds of millions of dollars into "Closing the Gaps" since 2000, and yet Maori and Pacific Islanders are worse off, tells us something is fundamentally wrong.

Taxpayer help needs to be on a quid pro quo basis - you get a benefit payment and do some community work/something useful - in return. At the moment it is something for nothing.

[98tls]

Well said. We do forget about all the maori families who do fine, work hard and love their kids.

The fact that a Labour Government has poured hundreds of millions of dollars into "Closing the Gaps" since 2000, and yet Maori and Pacific Islanders are worse off, tells us something is fundamentally wrong.

Taxpayer help needs to be on a quid pro quo basis - you get a benefit payment and do some community work/something useful - in return. At the moment it is something for nothing. cant remember what state its in but somewere in the US does the benefit thing well....you dont get money you get food stamps..best thing is they can only be redeemed for real food..no smokes etc not even fizzy drink good idea i reckon....oh and when you sign on you surrender your drivers licence as if you need the dole then you obviously cant afford insurance for your car which you must have over there:doobey:

[yungatart]

And so they screech 'not fair'?

'They' better learn real quick that the only thing that is not fair and not right is the left cheek of a Negro...or a Maori

[Winston001]

cant remember what state its in but somewere in the US does the benefit thing well....you dont get money you get food stamps..best thing is they can only be redeemed for real food..no smokes etc not even fizzy drink good idea i reckon....oh and when you sign on you surrender your drivers licence as if you need the dole then you obviously cant afford insurance for your car which you must have over there:doobey:

Wisconsin. http://www.urban.org/publications/310223.html

It's called Welfare to Work. Think the jury is still out on whether it is successful but an interesting example of what is being tried.

[scumdog]

cant remember what state its in but somewere in the US does the benefit thing well....you dont get money you get food stamps..best thing is they can only be redeemed for real food..no smokes etc not even fizzy drink good idea i reckon....oh and when you sign on you surrender your drivers licence as if you need the dole then you obviously cant afford insurance for your car which you must have over there:doobey:

South Dakota has that system, seems to work, didn't hear too much criticism of it when there.

[Winston001]

Sounds like a good system but I have heard Wisconsin criticised here in NZ. Just trying to keep an open mind which ain't easy 'cos I'm a white anglo-saxon honkey taxpayer. :yes:

[98tls]

Sounds like a good system but I have heard Wisconsin criticised here in NZ. Just trying to keep an open mind which ain't easy 'cos I'm a white anglo-saxon honkey taxpayer. :yes: :gob: that makes you a Racist...:innocent:

[Ixion]

No, I think that makes him a haddock.

[Beemer]

I'm sorry, but if Asians can come to NZ speaking NO English at all and top their classes within a year or two, how come Maoris, who have been exposed to English for centuries, can't cope in mainstream schools? To me it is a cop-out. How does it explain all the Maoris who HAVE done well - are they wanna-be whities?

[Indiana_Jones]

I'm sorry, but if Asians can come to NZ speaking NO English at all and top their classes within a year or two, how come Maoris, who have been exposed to English for centuries, can't cope in mainstream schools? To me it is a cop-out. How does it explain all the Maoris who HAVE done well - are they wanna-be whities?

That's the difference, the most people want to learn. Those dumb c*nts don't want too, why do they need to? they've seen mum and dad live off the state since day one, so why the fuck do they need to get a job. The only thing they do learn is all their 'rights' :wait:

-Indy