How 2 get mum 2 let me have a bike

[nezorf]

hi im 16 and wont a bike. mum wont tell me b coz they dangerous and dad came off his at 170. i know that its more dangerous than a car but it=f u drive safe and realy wotch the cars u b fine. any ideas?

hay who care about the spelling i am not a out of controll teen, i have more more contoll over the spelling than that but i am scraping threw my english class so i am not a no hopper (yet any way)

[Mr. Peanut]

Your mom is right, bikes are far too dangerous.

[Ixion]

Oh dear. Chair for Mr Hitcher, quickly. And the smelling salts.

What does Dad think about you having a bike?

All Mums think that bikes are dangerous, and of course they are right. It is the cross that mothers of boys must bear. Does she object as a general principle, or is there that in your behaviour or history that gives her particular grounds for concern?

[crashe]

Welcome to KB
Yep mums always worry about their children, no matter how old they are.
Just give her a huge hug for caring about you. Cos she loves you.


Save up and do a defensive riding course.
Save up and buy all the right protective gear and a BRAND new helmet.
Save up and get your Learners license.

Look at how BuckBuck1 has learnt to ride his bike - search for his thread. He has gone out slowly and practised every part of learning to ride.

Read all the survival threads - heaps of riding advice on them threads.

By doing all these things she will appreciate it that you are going to do all the correct things to get a motorbike.

Once you do get a bike, make sure it is road legal (Rego'ed and WOF) and stick to the correct speed limits.

Show her how responsible you can be.

We have a few young fellows on this site around your age who may come in with some advise.

But remember mums always worry about their kids.

Oh and just cos your dad came off at 170km doesnt mean that you are going to do the same silly thing your dad did. Prove to your mum that you are going to be really sensible on the bike.

Yep bikes can be dangerous..... but then so is walking across the road.

[sprocket]

I know the feeling , my mother is still pissed at me for buying a bike and im 25, I just said that ill ride as safe as i can and always wear all the correct safety gear , So that being said I never mention anything to do with the bike when im around her. :rockon:

[Buster]

Welcome to the site dude.

Firstly try to talk her round to you getting a scooter or something small enough to keep you both comfortable for a short time. This will give you some time to get all the safety gear you need and to show her how responsible you can be (when shes looking). Hopefully she will slowly warm to the idea.

If that doesnt work then tell her you want to buy a 300kw turbo car because they are way safer.

[texmo]

Ask for a scooter cos all mums know scooters are not dangerous. Get your learners bike licence. After having that for 6 months and not crashing tell your mum your gonna sit your restricted and get a bike.

[NotaGoth]

My mums the same. She rides. My dad rode. But I'm nearly 20 and she DOES NOT want me on a bike. Even as a pillion.

Its been a while since I told her I want a bike, and her feelings still haven't changed, but I'm working on it.

My arguement with her is "You ride, and its okay. So why can't I?"

Bit of a tough one cause really with your parents, they just love you alot and try to look after you in the best way that they know how. So in return I have tried taking how she feels into account. I absolutely love her to bits, she is my whole world, and so how she feels does matter to me.

Have you offered your mum some sort of compromise? Being that when you get a bike, you will tell her where your going, who your going to be with, and about what time approximately you will be home? Stop once in a while and txt her so she knows your still okay?

It sounds silly, but even now I do that with my mum. Its the best thing I can offer, to reassure her that I am ok. And I'll be doing exactly that when I get a motorbike too.

[laRIKin]

See if you can get a dirt bike first.
That way you get to ride and learn to control a bike.
As there are no car's to worry about your mum may soften to the idea.

Once you have proven you can ride well and safely.
She may even soften some more and not minded you riding on the road.

If I had kids they would have to ride off road first.
Because they would learn more in the relative safety of a softer dirt with no cars, trucks to run them over.

And the speeds are lower and you can wear more safety gear.
The main danger now is that young guys want to jump to high and far before they are ready and then they do get hurt real bad.

[Mr. Peanut]

A larger capacity (125cc) scoot is a good idea. It lets you concentrate on the road, and is less intimidating for your mother.

[chickenfunkstar]

hi im 16 and wont a bike. mum wont tell me b coz they dangerous and dad came off his at 170. i know that its more dangerous than a car but it=f u drive safe and realy wotch the cars u b fine. any ideas?

y do u wnt a bke? I wntd 1 cos i was spndin ova 3 hrs a day n da traffc. If u cme up wif gd rsns for getin a bke mbe ur mum wil lt u gt 1. pce out dawg.

[Jantar]

Reading the replies to your question, I gather that you want a bike, but your mum wont let you have one. I can understand that. If you have reached 16 years of age and still haven't learned the english language, then how do you ever expect to learn to ride a bike?

[megageoff76]

A larger capacity (125cc) scoot is a good idea. It lets you concentrate on the road, and is less intimidating for your mother.

I agree. My folks were never too keen either. Start by asking for a scooter or something small that you can ride to school on. Prove to them that your responsible with that by being safe and not crashing etc, then slowly get bigger and bigger every few years. Well that worked for me back in the day.

[MidnightMike]

We have a few young fellows on this site around your age who may come in with some advise.

Yeop, such as me.

Just keep working at them, and when you do finally succeed carefully chose a bike that matches your skill level. And most importantly take your time to learn Thats what i have done / am doing and i definately do not regret it. :rockon:

[Motu]

I think your mother would be really,really proud of you if you leant how to spell and punctuate correctly,to actualy have some grasp of the English language would go a long way to persuading her that you really are a responsable lad.It's the little things,mothers love the little things we do....

[Bonez]

Welcome to KB. Your dad was a naughty boy for setting a bad example by speeding. :yes:

Some good advice given above. Doing off road first is a good idea. Maybe Dad could get into too.

[Maha]

nezorf........maybe if you clean your room, just a thought?.....:wait:

[Coyote]

Say bikes are cheaper than a cocaine/prostitute addiction

[Karma]

Stuff your mother, go out and get a bike anyways.

Way I see it, if you learn how to ride then you're sweet and if not, then I guess she was right.

You always do what people say you should do? You'd only end up riding a honda anyways...

[texmo]

Say bikes are cheaper than a cocaine/prostitute addiction
A cocaine/prostitute addiction is probbly cheaper than the amount of money I spend on bikes....

[Sketchy_Racer]

My mum was the same.

In the end we came to a deal that once i got my restricted car licence i was allowed to get my bike learners.

She admitted that she thought once i started driving the car, i would not be interested in the bikes...

She was so mistaken

[acewheelie]

Bicycles are more dangerous than a well prepared, carefully ridden motor cycle. and yes at 43 with 20+ years riding mum still worries, errr, and so does the wife!

[texmo]

Bicycles are more dangerous than a well prepared, carefully ridden motor cycle. and yes at 43 with 20+ years riding mum still worries, errr, and so does the wife!
I agree, I was told to use my moutain bike to pratise stoppies on by motoracer and LB so I pulled out my bike from under the house, I got up to about 30k's and fliped my bike straight away....

[sunhuntin]

Bicycles are more dangerous than a well prepared, carefully ridden motor cycle. and yes at 43 with 20+ years riding mum still worries, errr, and so does the wife!

i agree with that too....i biked to school almost everyday from form 1 to form 7....i guess thats why mum was so lax about me getting a bike. [roughly a 7k ride each way, encompassing one major bridge and road]

[Dangerous Dane]

Just buy it and deal with the fireworks later.
Thats what I did.

[Macktheknife]

y do u wnt a bke? I wntd 1 cos i was spndin ova 3 hrs a day n da traffc. If u cme up wif gd rsns for getin a bke mbe ur mum wil lt u gt 1. pce out dawg.
Chickenfunkstar please go home and learn to spell before you try giving out any of your (no doubt priceless) pearls of wisdom. At least that way the rest of us will have some idea what the hell you are trying to communicate.
Thanks

[oldrider]

hi im 16 and wont a bike. mum wont tell me b coz they dangerous and dad came off his at 170. i know that its more dangerous than a car but it=f u drive safe and realy wotch the cars u b fine. any ideas?
Young man,
This is and has been a very common problem for budding motorcyclists since motorcycles were invented.
I had the same problem 52yrs ago and I was not the first and you will not be the last.
I do not recommend that you go all out against your parents wishes, believe me the wounds take far too long to heal and there are better ways.
Do not lose focus on the objective: To own and ride a motorcycle.
If you can do it with your parents blessing and possibly assistance it is worth working for.
Keeping the objective firmly in mind just keep on selling the idea, over and over, and over.
Persistence is one of your greatest weapons but you also have to learn when to "sell" them the idea.
For instance mothers are most receptive to new ideas when they are feeling proud and appreciated.
You have got to get her purring with pride and admiration for you and then you sell, sell, sell, the idea.
Never never mention the bike idea when she is pissed with you.
Never miss a chance to mention the "advantages" of a bike over a car and how much better it would be for "her" if you had a bike.
Make it your business to find articles in magazines and other media about boy racers and all the problems the create and cause.
Find nice stories about bikes and how responsible bike riders are and leave them around so that she will find them and read them.
The art of diplomacy here is to sell the idea and make them think it was their own idea all along, you will resist a little and finally agree to their wishes and buy the bike with their help.
Ride the bike carefully for a while and keep doing that around home. (IE don't shit where you eat.)
Whatever you do, don't introduce your mom and dad to WINJA.
Think about it, work hard on it and if all your best efforts fail to materialise then just go out and buy one and face the music, it is worth it.
Good luck and good riding. I am sure you will make it happen. :blip: Cheers John.

[chickenfunkstar]

Chickenfunkstar please go home and learn to spell before you try giving out any of your (no doubt priceless) pearls of wisdom. At least that way the rest of us will have some idea what the hell you are trying to communicate.
Thanks

I waz jst tryin' 2 hlp dis yng wif hiz probs wif hiz peeps @ hme. Dnt b hating on me 4 dat. smetime ewes gotta let da playaz play da pimps pimp and da hustlas hustle.

Hrses 4 coursez nd all dat ay G?

[classic zed]

When I was a nipper, I passed my test on a moped (FS1E Yamaha) I traded up to a honda CB250, mum went on so much about how dangerous it was that I decided to go one better, I traded the 250 for a brand new Kawasaki Z100:gob: holy crap was that thing fast in those days, scared me to death the first time I snapped the throttle open. It just caused mum to worry even more. So if you want to keep the peace at home dont follow my lead it didnt work, talk to your mum and try to come to a compromise, a trail bike or scooter look less intimidating to parents, and it will teach you roadcraft without too much power, power can get you into a lot of trouble.:scooter:

[WINJA]

Young man,
This is and has been a very common problem for budding motorcyclists since motorcycles were invented.
I had the same problem 52yrs ago and I was not the first and you will not be the last.
HA HA OLD PEOPLE SMELL LIKE WEE, DONT LISTEN TO MR GEREATRIC FROZEN GET A BIG BIKE DONT WORRY ABOUT A REGO OR WARRANT FUCK IT DONT EVEN GET A LICENCE AND RUB YA MUMS NOSE IN IT SAY LOOK BITCH IM DEFYING YOU ,CARVE UP TRAFFIC AND DO THE FINGERS TO OTHER MOTORISTS , I GOT TOLD BY MY PARENTS THAT THE DAY I GET A BIKE IS THE DAY I LEAVE HOME , I GOT MY FIRST BIKE AT 12 YO SO THEY COULDNT KICK ME OUT BUT THEY DID A FEW YEARS LATER AND I DONT REGRET IT

[Hitcher]

hi im 16 and wont a bike. mum wont tell me b coz they dangerous and dad came off his at 170. i know that its more dangerous than a car but it=f u drive safe and realy wotch the cars u b fine. any ideas?
Gahhh! Maybe if you learned to write English properly your Mum (and others of us) may better understand what it is you want. Your Dad was really old when he came off his bike. Tell your Mum you will stop riding when you get to 135.

[SwanTiger]

My first road bike was a GN 250 that I owned for about four months, it didn't have a warrant and wasn't registered. I also didn't have a license or a helmet. I still rode it despite my parets dissaproval, my dad said he informed the Police and my mum would merely bitch and moan. Eventually they gave in to the idea and my mum hinted "acceptance" if I brought a helmet.

I did get stopped by the Police and a juicey $850 dollar fine - 100 meters from my drive way after midnight for no real reason, so I was a little suspecious of that ...

None the less, persistence pays off and the big deal is getting "acceptance" rather than approval. It is a bit like the Petrol Prices today, people bitch and moan when they go up but eventually they begin to accept the change and live with it.

Personally, I'd suggest you buy a trail bike and ride that for a while, off the road, and that'll get them used to the idea. Then after a while get the trail bike road registered and progress from there, by that point it'll be 5 - 12 months and you can get a propper road bike.

EDIT: If you do manage to get yourself a bike, annoying some of the 'naki homo's on Kiwi Biker would be a good idea.

[sunhuntin]

Gahhh! Maybe if you learned to write English properly your Mum (and others of us) may better understand what it is you want. Your Dad was really old when he came off his bike. Tell your Mum you will stop riding when you get to 135.

lol. 170? that aint old, hitch! LOL

yeh, bikes are dangerous, and im sure theres a few here with some choice pics of their wounds [who was the young guy who had a digit ripped off simply cleaning the chain?] and your mother only has your best interest at heart, trust me. IMHO, a 16 year old who cant be bothered to write in correct english is not mature enough for anything other than a push bike. im only 21, but even to me you appear to a kid who simply wants to annoy his mother some more. i hate to think how some of the older members [who think im an idiot, lol] are feeling about you.

[yungatart]

My concern is that with this young man's woefully inadequate literacy skills, he may qualify for a reader/writer for his licence test and actually pass... giving us yet one more idiot who is out on the road!
I can't read the signs yet, mummy.

[sunhuntin]

My concern is that with this young man's woefully inadequate literacy skills, he may qualify for a reader/writer for his licence test and actually pass... giving us yet one more idiot who is out on the road!

o god! you mean like that kid who called me a fuckin skank at work cos HE spilled petrol all over himself? or the dorks who got shitty when i refused to let them throw petrol [with maybe 2 stroke oil] down our sewers, so they went around the corner, dumped it and then thought i wouldnt recognise them? god help us all!

might get wings attached to my helmet so i wont have to share the road with such people.

[Scouse]

My concern is that with this young man's woefully inadequate literacy skills, he may qualify for a reader/writer for his licence test and actually pass... giving us yet one more idiot who is out on the road!Oooh so judgemental I dont supose you consider yourself to be one of those other idiots

[Maha]

dad came off his at 170.

If your dad is that old, he should by now, understand the wants and needs of a teenager............:yes:

[yungatart]

Oooh so judgemental I dont supose you consider yourself to be one of those other idiots
In a word, NO

[Big Dave]

Well young fulla - sorry that so many on here seem to think that spelling the question correctly is more important that the question itself, so skip all that.

Communicate with yer mum. sit down quietly and rationaly and tell her that this is what you really want to do - and ask her what you would need to do to satisfy her demands for safety.

You might even have to wait till you move out of home before you can get a bike. Or you might be able to talk her round if you do it honestly and can convince her that you won't wrap yourself around a pole on day 1.

Ultimately - that is what any parent wants - honesty and trust. If you earn that - then you can probably get a bike.

[bladez]

my parents had no choice both brothers rode bikes had my mother on my bike twice :gob: should have lernt the first time . the only rule my mother has is she dosent want to see me ride so if ya go faster than her she wont see ya ride :yes: but yes be straight up with your mother as she prob has her reasons for her choice but if you do get a bike go and learn the right way and safe way :scooter: good luck

[Motu]

What a parent wants is communication with their children,without that they have nothing.If whatzizname can't communicate with us....can he communicate with his mother?

And where's he gone?

[Joni]

I could not of said it better myself Dave!!:first:
Talk to your mum, its all about communication...

[SlowHand]

Stuff your mother...

I like where your head is at. Do we go with adequate gear or are we sailors?

MILF!



I waz jst tryin' 2 hlp dis yng wif hiz probs wif hiz peeps @ hme. Dnt b hating on me 4 dat. smetime ewes gotta let da playaz play da pimps pimp and da hustlas hustle.

Hrses 4 coursez nd all dat ay G?


au bro bro bro



..err thats all I got. I concede.
learn to speaky engrish proper loik, or ur out of the ride tomorrow. Biarch.

[ZorsT]

It wasn't long ago when I was in your shoes. As others have said, keep pushing the idea (thats what i did, it took nearly 2 years)


IMHO, a 16 year old who cant be bothered to write in correct english is not mature enough for anything other than a push bike.

yeah, i have to agree there

[Street Gerbil]

My sister is in a tight spot because of that. She really wants to get herself a bike but she can't because when her kids wanted to get a bike she told them "over my dead body".

[Scouse]

So there you go young Dude listen to what Big Dave and Joni are telling you and take no notice of the Mockers

[bladez]

So there you go young Dude listen to what Big Dave and Joni are telling you and take no notice of the Mockers
from what i have read there have been some good advise for the young lad and hey the mockers were a good band :yes:

[MSTRS]

from what i have read there have been some good advise for the young lad and hey the mockers were a good band :yes:
Absolutely. And advice takes all forms. The advisee will take what they want from what is/was offered.

[Scouse]

and hey the mockers were a good band :yes:Do you think so Iv'e always seen Andrew Fagan as a bit of a Twat

[Virago]

Do you think so Iv'e always seen Andrew Fagan as a bit of a Twat
.......only on Tuesday mornings or Black Friday......:doobey:

[bladez]

Do you think so Iv'e always seen Andrew Fagan as a bit of a Twathey i guess you carnt take a laugh each to there own :nya:

[Colapop]

a) If you're that keen on getting a bike, you'll be patient. Better to be patient trather than end up being one.
b) Start slow - a scooter is good. Yeah MotoGP and Superbike riders go fast but they're very skilled and learnt how to ride first.
c) Prove that you're responsible enough to get a bike. Chores suck but they show that you can stick to a routine (and get a job to pay for your own gas)
d) Buy a Harley ride for your mother. Help her to remember that riding feeling.

She's still not happy your old man came off at great speed - probably doesn't want to see it happen again. Take it slow with her - there's plenty of time.

[skidMark]

do what i did go out and buy one and park it in the driveway and go look what i bought today....i was promptly told after riding my brand new minibike home....well go get your license...they took my keys to my brand new toy for 2 days whilst i got my car learners (was only a 50cc replica monkeybike) went and got that and i was sorted...did over 7000 km's on that thing....but yeah 2 weeks after owning it i went into a cars front guard at umm too many km's an hour....and flew over the bars...and apparently according to the driver clear over his bonnet like superman...all up he reckon at least 10 metres distance in the air before hiting the ground braking my elbow then rolling along the grass verge 7-8 times between the footpath and the road....stopping just centimetres from one of those little grass verge trees only a little one but woulve hurt none the less

twas never quite the same bike after that..... this only been april last year...

can never straighten my arm again a nice figure 8 of wire holding it together...

butttt back to the point.......buying my first bike was the best thing i ever did and showing up with a brand new bike straight out of the showroom there was no way she was gunna make me take it back...then overtime upgraded getting her used to the fact i was going to ride a motorbike wheather she liked it or not....

my next upgrade from little bikes was then a gn250 .....then i bought a gpx 250 ninja...and have now just sold that and about to buy a zxr 250 (**drooooooools uncontrollably**)

[skidMark]

damn accidently submitted the post before it was finished....

so get her used to the idea slowly maybe start off with something smaller....show her round the bike shops....but go in to see the bike shop salesman soon before...and when your mother comes in get him to blurb something about very safe for a learner and have a good headlight on them so very easy for other vehicles to see it blah blah....and how underpowered it is so great for a learner....or some bull....

mothers have trouble with bikes because they worry thier baby is going to end up dead or a vegitable etc....fact is i was 18 and my mother was just scared more than anything i was going to get hurt well two weeks later i did ...and i shouldn't have lived to tell the tale....

but a mothers love is a mothers love shes raised you since nothing and as you can imagine it's hard for her to let go...

my mother is still hell bent that when i get my full i am not getting a zx10 or a k6 or by that stage k8 gixxer thousand

but she says if i got it she would be fine with it ...she saw a mates k2 gixxer that he bought round and went wow that very nice you should get one of those mark i went mum it's 600 cc shes like thats fine just be careful on it you can have what you like as long as you pay for it...i'm like SWEET so bring on my full now that my mother has come to grips with it...i just won't tell her the top speed of the zxr just yet...mind you i told her i got radared by the cops at 150 and got let off she was like well that wasn't clever just go slower in future.....and youll be fine...

i'm like ok sweet mum just going out on the bike byeee....

vrooooooooommmmmm redlineeeee vrooooommmmm redline vroooooom redlinevroooom redline vroom redline vroooom redline....

and ill get home and she goes sounded nice going out of the street i like the noise at high revs just keep it down for hte neighbours or they will get grumpy

mothers always always come round...erm eventually...

now that ive babbled heaps of crap...i'm done

MA

[myvice]

I wasn’t allowed a bike ether, but I had a job (milk boy) saved my money and brought one... RM 80
She came round but I wasn’t allowed a bigger one... traded up to a RM125
Not too happy with me but it was OK as long as I didn’t race it... Two seasons and I suck at Moto X!
Racing might be one thing but I'm definitely not allowed a road bike!
GN250...
Don’t do what I did, I was a smart little prick and needed a kick in the pants!
Try and get her on side first, get the gear and get the lessons.

[Mr. Peanut]

I'm pretty sure that this guy is wasting my time, but blowing my own trumpet is so much fun.
:yes: :rockon: :motu:

[beyond]

Well, think on it from their veiwpoint. There 'boy' is going to get a bike and end up dead. That's how they see it.

My parents were exactly the same when I was 18. I had left school, got a job and cheap Japanese cars didn't exist back then, but cheaper motorbikes did. Cheaper motorbikes like the T250 Hustler Suzuki I bought in 1974, did the quarter mile in the same time as the latest Mustang back then too. :)

Wasn't allowed a bike unless I got a life insurance cover that would pay for my funeral. Funerals back then ran at around 2,000 bucks so got a life cover for 2 grand and was then allowed to buy a bike.

I was careful to start with. You have to be or you don't live long. BUT, being young, we are bullet proof and invincible and things don't hurt half as much as they do now.

I had my bike 9 months and covered 35,000kms. 2 months of that the bike was off the road being rebuilt after two writeoff accidents. Both times I was close to calling on my life policy.

So yeah, they have reason to worry and be concerned and yes, young guys do push to the limit. So whatever happens, be bloody careful out there okay?

Tell them if they are that worried, you'll get a life policy too. :)

Uumm, maybe not. That might make them more worried than before.

No easy answer there I'm afraid, but do communicate. They have your best interests at heart.

[Quartida]

All Mums think that bikes are dangerous, and of course they are right. It is the cross that mothers of boys must bear.

And girls.


My mum took a long time to come around to the idea. The truth is that many parents never fully come around to it. The key things are:

* Sit down and be mature about it when you talk to your parents

* Have patience: prove that this is not just a whim or a teenage rebellion thing

* Explain that you understand her concerns given what happened to your Dad, but that you feel that you can do better: show that you have committment to being safe (even if you do not, in fact, have committment to being safe)

* Do not, in my opinion, "just go out and get a bike". If you truly want to get your mum on your side then it's no good to go against her wishes. It's a sure-fire way to lose some of the respect that you will need if she is ever to fully accept your biking.


Having said all that, the other thing that's good to do is get some bikers on side so that you have a little support group. KB is one such group. However, in order to get KB on side, you'll have to brush up a little on the old grammar and punctuation. As you might have realised from previous posts. It sounds pedantic, but KB's a great resource and it would be sad if you missed out just because of the way you write.

Even ... ellipses .... are ... pushing ... it ... (markauckland :nya: )

[Karma]

Here's some gold class advice, never take advice from MarkAuckland.

Also...

Nobody ever listens to people telling them to take it easy, so go out and give it hell, just make sure you got all the gear you need to save ya when (not if) you bin.

[babyB]

got to agree wit BigDave & Colopop on this


:rofl: at 37 my parents are still trying hard to convince me to sell me bikes:slap: .......they brought me a car befor i could by myself a bike, they also presented me with a loan agrement to pay them back for the car just to make sure i was broke enought not to get a bike:angry:

[pixc]

I know the feeling , my mother is still pissed at me for buying a bike and im 25,

bahahahaa my Ma hates the idea and im over 30. She thinks im stupid and must be going thru some mid-life crisis thingie. When I told her the size of the bike...and I told her it wasnt much bigger then a scooter she is much more relaxed . Im just going to have to slowly get her used to it

[Pathos]

lol @ retards dissing his language skills that can't spell themselves....

It all depends on your mum really...will she lock up the keys if she comes home to find a sports bike in the garage ?

But to be honest motorcycling is dangerous. How much experience on the road to you have ? I had ten years, 8 on a bicycle 2 in a car. Without this I would have had an accident involving another vehicle by now. and those can be deadly.

if you do get a bike go for a fxr and buy good tyres they are perfect learners bikes and really handle well.

Remember that you need to also need to buy a helmet ~200, gloves ~100, jacket 100-200, insurance 400+, registration ~200, gas+wear and tear, plus good jeans. if you want to go on the open road you need boots ~300, leather/cordura trousers ~300.

[Jantar]

lol @ retards dissing his language skills that can't spell themselves.....
If it was just a simple typing error or a misspelled word here and there, it wouldn't be an issue. But when the entire post is illegible it would make one wonder if it doesn't indicate a lack of suffient maturity to hold a motorcycle licence.

I do believe that in this case the poster's mother is absolutely correct.

[Beemer]

Sorry to give you the bad news, but when I was 16 I really wanted a bike as two of my female friends at school had them and my brother had been riding bikes for years, but my mother wouldn't let me have one. She was/is a miserable woman, wouldn't let me have a kitten or a tattoo either. I was 23 when I got the kitten and about 27 when I got the first tattoo. Sad to say, I was 36 when I got the first bike... But now I'm in my 40s and I've got two cats, four tattoos and I'm up to my third bike. Maybe you'll have to wait until you're old enough to buy a bike without any financial or emotional input from mum. Until then, moan, whinge and bitch - you won't necessarily get the bike but at least you'll make her suffer too!

[Quartida]

She was/is a miserable woman, wouldn't let me have a kitten or a tattoo either.

Yeah, my mother isn't big on tattoos either. When I was 17, we were watching a documentary on "Body Art" and she commented that she thought that "a little tattoo was quite sexy".

A few years later I told her I wanted a tattoo. She looked at me with surprise and disgust. "You said a little tattoo was quite sexy," I told her.

Her reply? "Not on my daughter, it's not."


The moral of the story is: it's much harder for mums to accept things when it's suddenly their kids who are involved. I'm sure my mum wouldn't have minded if one of my friends got a bike...or a tattoo...

Though the kitten - now that's pretty harsh.

[The Stranger]

You could always invite some nice biker types around to meet your mum. By the time she has met Poos and Dover and Juzzer how could she refuse.

[FilthyLuka]

I waz jst tryin' 2 hlp dis yng wif hiz probs wif hiz peeps @ hme. Dnt b hating on me 4 dat. smetime ewes gotta let da playaz play da pimps pimp and da hustlas hustle.

Hrses 4 coursez nd all dat ay G?

im... so... angry...

ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT SHIT ON SOCIETY AND MAKE ME WANT TO GOUGE MY EYES OUT WITH A WOODEN SPOON!!!!

let me put it in your terms: "i b h8tn bcause U'R A F***ING MORON!!!"

now, onto uncalled for abuse.

you are not a "playa" your a "looza"
your not a "pimp" seeing as the controll of money and prostitutes requires some mathematical skills.
i dont even want to know what a "hustla" is...

Denis

woosaa.... hooray for teenage angst (on my part)

[FilthyLuka]

back on topic.

i consider myself lucky. my brother is 14 years older than me and has a bike ('92 fireblade) he's 29 now and has been riding since he was 18. He's kinda like the leading male influence in my life so the old lady listens to him... my ma was unhappy with the idea about me getting a bike but after several well formed arguments (and some settlements on my part) we came to a conclusion that i could get a bike on the grounds that she approved of when/where i rode and for my first couple rides she would lead in a car to make sure that i'm not a moron.
You'll find that reasoning with your parents works a whole lot better than demanding and fighting with them.

Denis

[iwilde]

My old man said that "when you earn your own money, suport yourself and move out of home you can do what you like" Mum had to agree to that. One week later I was flatting with a mate and got me a CBX750. No licence and no brains. But survived and got my full this year 20yrs after moving out of home. Point is, be responsible for yourself.

[sunhuntin]

Sorry to give you the bad news, but when I was 16 I really wanted a bike as two of my female friends at school had them and my brother had been riding bikes for years, but my mother wouldn't let me have one. She was/is a miserable woman, wouldn't let me have a kitten or a tattoo either. I was 23 when I got the kitten and about 27 when I got the first tattoo. Sad to say, I was 36 when I got the first bike... But now I'm in my 40s and I've got two cats, four tattoos and I'm up to my third bike. Maybe you'll have to wait until you're old enough to buy a bike without any financial or emotional input from mum. Until then, moan, whinge and bitch - you won't necessarily get the bike but at least you'll make her suffer too!

mmm, my mum was the same on tattoos....so i got my first while i was thousands of miles away in canada, lol. quick email home "hi mum, got a tattoo. bye" nothing she could do then, lol. now ive got 6 all up.

[Quartida]

mmm, my mum was the same on tattoos....so i got my first while i was thousands of miles away in canada, lol. quick email home "hi mum, got a tattoo. bye" nothing she could do then, lol. now ive got 6 all up.


Haha, I wanted to do that, but I knew I had to come home at the end of my year away, and I couldn't afford to go flatting...:innocent:

On the plus side, if you get a bike against your parents wishes, it is rather easier to "un-get" it than it is to unget a tattoo. Just tell your mum "at least I don't want a tattoo..."

Or use the old "door in the face" trick. Tell her you want to buy a Blackbird. Show her all the pics, talk about it a lot and then, a few months later, tell her you've realised the error of your ways and you'd actually like a GN. It's foolproof.

[sunhuntin]

Haha, I wanted to do that, but I knew I had to come home at the end of my year away, and I couldn't afford to go flatting...:innocent:

On the plus side, if you get a bike against your parents wishes, it is rather easier to "un-get" it than it is to unget a tattoo. Just tell your mum "at least I don't want a tattoo..."

Or use the old "door in the face" trick. Tell her you want to buy a Blackbird. Show her all the pics, talk about it a lot and then, a few months later, tell her you've realised the error of your ways and you'd actually like a GN. It's foolproof.

i only had 5 months to wait. once i got home and she got a decent look at it she came round. it also helped to have an older brother who paved the way, lol.

[skidMark]

back on topic.

i consider myself lucky. my brother is 14 years older than me and has a bike ('92 fireblade) he's 29 now and has been riding since he was 18. He's kinda like the leading male influence in my life so the old lady listens to him... my ma was unhappy with the idea about me getting a bike but after several well formed arguments (and some settlements on my part) we came to a conclusion that i could get a bike on the grounds that she approved of when/where i rode and for my first couple rides she would lead in a car to make sure that i'm not a moron.
You'll find that reasoning with your parents works a whole lot better than demanding and fighting with them.

Denis

when i owned a gn i learnt something....it's pretty hard to be a moron on a gn...in saying that i used ot lane split on mine with motorcross bars on it

[ajturbo]

got to agree wit BigDave & Colopop on this


:rofl: at 37 my parents are still trying hard to convince me to sell me bikes:slap: .......they brought me a car befor i could by myself a bike, they also presented me with a loan agrement to pay them back for the car just to make sure i was broke enought not to get a bike:angry:

:gob: your ONLY 37 ????????..:nya:

[SlowHand]

im... so... angry...

ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT SHIT ON SOCIETY AND MAKE ME WANT TO GOUGE MY EYES OUT WITH A WOODEN SPOON!!!!

let me put it in your terms: "i b h8tn bcause U'R A F***ING MORON!!!"

now, onto uncalled for abuse.

you are not a "playa" your a "looza"
your not a "pimp" seeing as the controll of money and prostitutes requires some mathematical skills.
i dont even want to know what a "hustla" is...

Denis

woosaa.... hooray for teenage angst (on my part)

Aw niga plz G. dnt b h8n on nufin yo. He woz juz tryn 2 hlp n sht no?

n hu waz d mod dat made d fst pst readable?

[chickenfunkstar]

im... so... angry...

ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT SHIT ON SOCIETY AND MAKE ME WANT TO GOUGE MY EYES OUT WITH A WOODEN SPOON!!!!

let me put it in your terms: "i b h8tn bcause U'R A F***ING MORON!!!"

now, onto uncalled for abuse.

you are not a "playa" your a "looza"
your not a "pimp" seeing as the controll of money and prostitutes requires some mathematical skills.
i dont even want to know what a "hustla" is...

Denis

woosaa.... hooray for teenage angst (on my part)


Wooo Dennis, snds lke ur abit upset Perhps we cld do sme biznes smetme?:doobey:

Smetims I lke 2 use satire 2 x press mself, tho I dnt thnk u got tht. eyev aktuly gt a degre, so im farely educ8ed. Knda lke Ali G thou nt qte as g8. Thks 4 tha rply tho, mde me smile.

West Koast 4eva

Word

[nezorf]

i want a bike yust to ride in and out of town i live in bell block a 2 min drive to new plymouth. i have not done any thing in the past to stop mum letting me get a bike it just dad came of his and now has 2 have people look after him. he will not like me having a bike, but i drive safely i have alocated 1000 bucks for full set of protective clothing even if i get a $2000 bike.

[nezorf]

Welcome to the site dude.

Firstly try to talk her round to you getting a scooter or something small enough to keep you both comfortable for a short time.

i recon scooters are not as safe simply becoz they go slower than the trafic flow and will end up becoming a new item on the front of a trucks grill.
i have to drive to town in a 80kmh zone on a main highway so is not sutible for where i live.

[nezorf]

i have had 1.5 years road use. i know how idiots think they can make it and pull out in front or dont look. i have had 2 people pull out in front of me.

as 4 the people so fussed a bout how i spell get a life it is simple abriviation ( hope i spelt that right)
my spelling skills are not great but i seam to be getting along

[Quartida]

Well, it sounds like you've done the right thing in terms of allocating money for gear etc.

I think the best thing is to just work on your mum slowly, giving good arguments. Most of the advice given has been pretty good.

Good luck.

As for the spelling thing, you're not the first person to get this flak for it. Just be aware that punctuation (if not spelling) can put you up for a lot of hassles on the site. Just a warning, not a condemnation.

[Hitcher]

as 4 the people so fussed a bout how i spell get a life it is simple abriviation ( hope i spelt that right)
my spelling skills are not great but i seam to be getting along
Bad spelling, within reason, is OK around here. If you want to use TXT language, or write like a Hoodie, buy a cellphone.

[nezorf]

i talked to mum she said same old thing about it more dangerous than car becouse of no seat belts ect( i now know u guys refure 2 a car as a cage). is said i will drive carefully and i wont make the same mistake as dad. my younger brother who is a wana be gansta/hoddie said your 16 and got a job get 1 any way. i said i would rather live in the house and not hav me go behind mums back. later mum said that she will think about it and as long as i get all the gear (all 1000 bucks worth not just a helmut) she said she might be able to live with it, but she will worry every time i go out. so i decided to use her car for a month or so more and slowly work at it so she wont be so worried when i get 1.
thanks for the advise and will watch out 4 more davice from you guys.
on this thread
will tell u when ready 4 a bike

[sunhuntin]

Bad spelling, within reason, is OK around here. If you want to use TXT language, or write like a Hoodie, buy a cellphone.

now, those posts i could read. the first one i had to re-read about 6 times. as hitch said...bad spelling is acceptable, so long as it can be read.
you seem like a sensible kid otherwise [ie, allocating $$ for gear.] you will be lucky to get a $2000 bike, a new gn250 can cost up to $3000 plus. [unless you buy second hand] if you do go that route, make sure you get it checked, properly.

[Colapop]

The thing is, you can be one the most careful riders out there, but that's not going to give your mother back the man she once knew. It's also not going to stop idiots from being on the road and killing/maiming you. This issue is not going to take 5 minutes to resolve. The quickest fix you can get is time. Truth be known when you get older and get the bike you want, your mother is never going to like you riding it. Hell, you could have a career in Superbike and be the winningest rider ever and never have an accident and she still won't like it.

In saying that, you are going to have to make the decision to get a bike yourself. You could get killed crossing the road on foot or by many other means. Life itself is dangerous. The thing is though that you still live at home and are cared for by someone who does actually care (there's a lot that don't) just be patient it's the best thing you can do.

[andrea]

ditto col i second that, man i didnt get a bike till hmm fark till i broke up with the ex lol. my parents never wanted me to get a bike too. i went for my basic handling bout 4 or 5 years back, but since i was still with my parents i had to live by their rules which sucked lol, so i took off moved in with my mate then later on i finally did the basic handling again and got my bike. im not saying that you should take off from home, just be patient and talk to your parents like the others say

[pixc]

winningest

Ohh I wuvs that word...is it a real one or made up??

[Craig11]

He must be someone getting a laugh outta this thread..... A new guy who posts with terrible spelling and has to ask his mum if he can ride a bike when he is already 30 years old????????

Buy the bike, have it in your driveway and then ask your mum if you can have it, it works.....

[pixc]

A new guy who posts with terrible spelling and has to ask his mum if he can ride a bike when he is already 30 years old????


:doh:


Check his profile ...says hes 16 :blah:

[nezorf]

He must be someone getting a laugh outta this thread..... A new guy who posts with terrible spelling and has to ask his mum if he can ride a bike when he is already 30 years old????????

Buy the bike, have it in your driveway and then ask your mum if you can have it, it works.....

y do u think i am 30?

[sunhuntin]

as someone else said....you can literally be the best rider ever...ride for 10 years and never have an off. just remember, its not if....its when. im sure some of these guys on here have been riding for years and ill bet my weeks wages they have all come off at least once....whether it be their fault, a cagers fault or a mixture of the two.

[skidMark]

y do u think i am 30?

by your literacy skills i'd say you are maybe 13 because you talk in retarded teenager...

under bike it says....none i wont one.....i think you mean want one...

stay in school kid you won't pass your scratch and win

[GR81]

dont be a fool, stay in school! :wait:

[Hitcher]

whether it be their fault, a cagers fault or a mixture of the two.
Somebody has read my autobiography...

[nodrog]

is your mum hot?

[nezorf]

by your literacy skills i'd say you are maybe 13 because you talk in retarded teenager...

under bike it says....none i wont one.....i think you mean want one...

stay in school kid you won't pass your scratch and win

wont isis how it sounds wnt is txt talk

[Hitcher]

wont isis how it sounds wnt is txt talk
Buy a cellphone, mbseal.

[nodrog]

Buy a cellphone, mbseal.

that would be a whole new thread about how his mum wont let him have one of those either.

[Pixie]

Gottlieb Daimler's mum wouldn't even let him invent the motorcycle...but he did it anyway

[Quartida]

wont isis how it sounds wnt is txt talk

While "wont" is how it sounds, unfortunately, the meaning of the word "wont", when spelt like that, is "habit", which is completely different to the meaning you are intending, "desire". :hitcher:

Spelling clarifies things. That's why I like it.

Though it can be argued that communication is about understanding, not spelling, and we all understood the meaning of the sentence....so perhaps I am too anally retentive about this.

After all, for years, there was no standardised spelling.

Hmm. This is beginning to sound like a spelling rant! Sorry! STOP ME NOW!

[nodrog]

....This is beginning to sound like a spelling rant! Sorry! STOP ME NOW!

ok, :ar15: :2guns: take that

[Jantar]

...
Spelling clarifies things. That's why I like it.

Though it can be argued that communication is about understanding, not spelling, and we all understood the meaning of the sentence....

No, my initial reaction was not one of understanding. His whole message just didn't any make sense at all. The way he used "wont" suggested a verb rather than a known, so I discounted the meaning of habbit and instead treated it as "won't" but with the apostrophe missing. So why would he desire for his mum to allow him to get a bike when he wouldn't have one? It didn't make sense.

From the first few replies I was able to get some idea of context, but I would be very concerned with the idea of someone so lacking in reading and writing skills ever getting a licence.

Nezorf, You really do need to improve your written skills if you want any real assistance from a written forum.

[Ixion]

as someone else said....you can literally be the best rider ever...ride for 10 years and never have an off. just remember, its not if....its when. im sure some of these guys on here have been riding for years and ill bet my weeks wages they have all come off at least once....whether it be their fault, a cagers fault or a mixture of the two.

Um, how much are your weeks wages? Though I came perilous close to fulfilling your prophecy this afternoon. Bloody good thing ABS brakes.

[Switch]

Bloody good thing ABS brakes.

Stop using slang talk...i dnt lik it :nya:

[nezorf]

that would be a whole new thread about how his mum wont let him have one of those either.

i would be at kiwifones.co.nz/forums lol. na she fine with most things excetpt bikes drug and drinking to much alcahole, she even singed a waver form when i went skydiving to say she wont take them to court if i die or get hurt. dont know what to think of that

[jazbug5]

...she even singed a waver form when i went skydiving to say she wont take them to court if i die or get hurt. dont know what to think of that

What stopped her from burning it entirely, then?

[pixc]

i would be at kiwifones.co.nz/forums lol. na she fine with most things excetpt bikes drug and drinking to much alcahole, she even singed a waver form when i went skydiving to say she wont take them to court if i die or get hurt. dont know what to think of that

Are you doing that on purpose? Is there a medical condition ie dyslexia,Gerstmann's Syndrom?

She lets you go skydiving...but not get a bike??

[sunhuntin]

Um, how much are your weeks wages? Though I came perilous close to fulfilling your prophecy this afternoon. Bloody good thing ABS brakes.

lol. depends on the week, lol. this week will be a biggie. 11 hour shift yesterday [meant to be 12, but i bunked early!] and no break whatsoever. lol.
and ix.....may you continue to ride without ever meeting the ground at speed!

[sunhuntin]

Are you doing that on purpose? Is there a medical condition ie dyslexia,Gerstmann's Syndrom?

She lets you go skydiving...but not get a bike??

hmmm. maybe she thought darwin would be painless that way?

*P/T

[Hitcher]

she even singed a waver form
What a talented woman. I have heard of people singing menus but never a waver (sic) form...

Are you sure that you're not related to Sk8r_boi? I know communicating by chronic flatus it's not a "Taranaki thing" because some people who originated from that fairest of provinces are prodigiously literate (even if they did go to all-girl schools)...

[SuperDave]

Oh please God don't get a bike. Don't get a car either. There are enough people on the roads who can't drive for shit, and if you rode like you spell...

[Quartida]

I know communicating by chronic flatus it's not a "Taranaki thing" because some people who originated from that fairest of provinces are prodigiously literate

Now that...that is a sentence to be proud of.:yes:

[Swoop]

y do u wnt a bke? I wntd 1 cos i was spndin ova 3 hrs a day n da traffc. If u cme up wif gd rsns for getin a bke mbe ur mum wil lt u gt 1. pce out dawg.
Alright. Where is the button that brings up the subtitles on this computer???:scratch:

[Swoop]

She lets you go skydiving...but not get a bike??
You will have to trust me on this one, skydiving is much safer.

[Quartida]

You will have to trust me on this one, skydiving is much safer.

But a terrible way to commute. ;)

[Ixion]

Well, the commute IN is OK, but back home is a real bastard.

[nezorf]

What stopped her from burning it entirely, then?

she just thinks that a sheat of nylone and sum string will save me
and a grand or more of protection, my driving ability and care full drving wont stop me getting hurt, corse it wont bult least i have a hope

[Virago]

I think I might cry....

[Ixion]

Tring? Oh , you'll be fine in that case. Wonderful stuff tring.Useful, like.

Hang around lad, I foresee a rich new stream of additions to the KB glossary.

Tring. Like bling, but it's useful instead of ornamental.

sk8r_boi finally has a worthy successor I reckon

Some one call the emergency team for Mr Hitcher please.

[nezorf]

statisticaly (spelling ????) driving to work in a cages is the most dangerous thing to do.

y is every one saying if i cant spell properly i am a rebal or i dont have the skills to ride a bike? spelling is realy hard 4 me

taranki is not a hole just statford and ingelwood

[Motu]

I think I might cry....

Can I join you? I just had a peek in here to see how it has been going - I'm going to use Listerine as an eye wash.....:bye:

[Virago]

statisticaly (spelling ????).........
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Ixion]

she just thinks that a sheat of nylone and sum tring will save me
and a grand or more of protection, my driving ability and care full drving wont stop me getting hurt, corse it wont bult least i have a hope

What for. The lad's on a roll. Already I reckoned he's produced a new word for the KB dictionary,right up there with the gargre and praking.

Tring. Y'know how bling is sort of ornamental stuff that isn't really ornamental? Well I reckon tring is sort of useful stuff that isn't really much use. Jolly useful word I reckon.

EDIT: - The original tring quote before amendation

[Motu]

Boi Racers was pretty damn good too - from the Boi himself....but tring has a practical poipose.

[Hitcher]

statford and ingelwood
Mania and Kapnonga rock!

(I have developed this strange involuntary twitch...)

[Motu]

The Citroens have left Mania - flee! Bread alone cannot save Mania.

[babyB]

all the best ppl were brought up in naki............
& were the ones with da brains to leave too:doobey: :nya: :innocent:

[Hitcher]

all the best ppl were brought up in naki...
One would be hard-pressed to disagree.

[oldrider]

Mania and Kapnonga rock!

(I have developed this strange involuntary twitch...)
My mom was born in Kaponga, does that qualify? (at least for the twitch) :yes:

[yungatart]

I know communicating by chronic flatus it's not a "Taranaki thing" because some people who originated from that fairest of provinces are prodigiously literate (even if they did go to all-girl schools)...
What ever do you mean? Did you go to an all girl school? I ask only because I can't think of anyone on kb more literate than you..

[Unforgiven]

Id say by your general attitude you should wait a while before getting a bike.
Ive always been a fairly careful driver but I was smart enough to stay with 4wheels untill I knew that Im grown up enough to think before doing something stupid.
I think if I had got a bike when I was 16 (like I wanted to) I most likely would have done myself some damage.

az 4 da txt spelin sht, Dont do it - it will piss to many people off, even us younger ones.

[Brian d marge]

See if you can get a dirt bike first.
That way you get to ride and learn to control a bike.
As there are no car's to worry about your mum may soften to the idea.

Once you have proven you can ride well and safely.
She may even soften some more and not minded you riding on the road.

If I had kids they would have to ride off road first.
Because they would learn more in the relative safety of a softer dirt with no cars, trucks to run them over.

And the speeds are lower and you can wear more safety gear.
The main danger now is that young guys want to jump to high and far before they are ready and then they do get hurt real bad.

Good call this

1000 - 1500 will pick you up a cheap CR125. Get out to a few trail rides first , then have a go at Competition,

You can go NUTZ ...and its all perfectly umm fine , legal ...

and the best bit...there aint anything comming in the other direction !!! ]

yes you might wake up a bit sore sometimes ( and you will soon find out what its like to Sh!t a brick ... gas it to much or wrong tech from a jump ,,,, oh and youll find out what pain is ...

Youll also give up drugs / booze and / women ...... all to feed your new fix

Speeed

Eventually you might want to buy a road bike , but,,,,,,, 270km/h is just a number on the speedo and a lot of noise ... ,,,, boooring

16 was ok back when all you had was a triumph terrier or Bsa d175 . But a aprillia 125 can top 100 mph now ....

Get dirty ....the mud beckons

Stephen

PS your dad will be way into it ...........

[Brian d marge]

Tring? Oh , you'll be fine in that case. Wonderful stuff tring.Useful, like.

Hang around lad, I foresee a rich new stream of additions to the KB glossary.

Tring. Like bling, but it's useful instead of ornamental.

sk8r_boi finally has a worthy successor I reckon

Some one call the emergency team for Mr Hitcher please.

I used to work in Tring ......

As you approach the main street to turn left or right there is a small hump backed bridge , blind.

On any bike you lift the front end over the bridge , only to discover it is a sharp left with stone walls :doh:

Thats all I can say about Tring ( they did some nice Ho train sets,,,,)


Stephen

[Hitcher]

(they did some nice Ho train sets,,,,)

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