Radar Jammers?????????

[kawa]

Does anyone know if these things actually work? Radar detectors are okay as long as the cop has his radar on all the time, otherwise you are pretty much screwed unless you are Rossi with super reaction times.

[texmo]

There are already a million threads on this dude. Scumdog will get you no matter what....

[GR81]

Jammers are illegal in NZL

[Karma]

I like raspberry jam

[MWVT]

Get a spark plug, put it in a roughly dish shaped tinfoil thing. Fire away. Plenty of white noise in radar frequencies. Bit easy to get busted though :<

[sAsLEX]

Jammers are illegal in NZL

They are? Elaborate please.

[GR81]

They are? Elaborate please.
from what i gather... radar detectors are legal in NZL because its not illegal to listen in on police frequencies... but the catch is, its illegal to act on the information gained.
so jamming the the signal must fall into that somewhere.

i was told the full story years ago, but cant remember the exact details.

unless things have changed in the last 5-6 years? *shrug*


Q Are radar detectors legal?
A They are legal to use in New Zealand have been for over 26 years. Many Police involved in traffic work believe that radar & laser detectors slow drivers down. Hense the co-operative effort of the N.Z. Wanganui Police who assist us each year in Radar detector evaluations.

Q Are radar jammers legal?
A According to the Federal Code of Regulations in the USA, jamming or attempting to jam a police radar gun is a federal felony punishable by fines and a possible jail sentence. Certain states like California, Utah, Minnesota, Ohio, Indiana, and Oklahoma have laws prohibiting any jamming device. In New Zealand it is unclear whether Jammers are legal except that they would require a licence from the Police which would not be given. To the best of our knowledge no one has ever been caught using active radar jammers in NZ.

taken from: http://www.radardirect.co.nz/FAQ/faq.html

[onearmedbandit]

It interferes with other radio signals. That makes it illegal in NZ.

[GR81]

It interferes with other radio signals. That makes it illegal in NZ.
reason #2. OAB said so!

:nya:

[sAsLEX]

It interferes with other radio signals. That makes it illegal in NZ.

Does it? Why? Do cops ones? Surely a radio transmitter at the Ka band freq, would not mess with other signal other than the intended.

Is it the interferrence issue or the required output power that means in NZ you would need a license to transmit on that band that no one would give you?

[MikeyG]

Standard international broadcasting rules state something along the lines of you cannot have any peice of equipment that interferes with a radiowave broadcasted by others.

[onearmedbandit]

I'm sure someone will be able to provide an actual link to the law regarding it. But if you stop to think about it at the least you are interfering with the police and their ability to catch a 'criminal'. This in itself is against the law. Then on top of that there is no doubt some legislation regarding radio transmitters. If I have the time I'll look it up.

[Blackbird]

Getting back to your original question "Do they work", the answer is that most are a straight rip-off and don't, and a couple work very well. The one which is acknowledged as the yardstick is the Blinder, although the Escort/Bel is also supposed to be good. Two mates in the UK have Blinders and swear by them. If you want to look at some independent U.S-based tests, check this out: http://www.speedzones.com/counter.html

[sAsLEX]

Getting back to your original question "Do they work", the answer is that most are a straight rip-off and don't, and a couple work very well. The one which is acknowledged as the yardstick is the Blinder, although the Escort/Bel is also supposed to be good. Two mates in the UK have Blinders and swear by them. If you want to look at some independent U.S-based tests, check this out: http://www.speedzones.com/counter.html

Blinder only works on Lidar or laser not on the Ka band radio type seen in crummydores around the country

[Biff]

Does it? Why?

You have to buy a licence to transmit on any frequencies other than those allocated to licence free (amateur) radios (UHF and VHF PRR), 1.4GHz, 2.4GHz (a small part) and a few others (very high) UHF freqs.

If you transmit on the same frequency as someone else, particularly someone who has paid their licence fee, then you're committing an offence.

I could try and find the correct govt document but I can't be arsed. I'm like that sometimes.

[Blackbird]

Blinder only works on Lidar or laser not on the Ka band radio type seen in crummydores around the country


Correct. To jam Ka band, you'd need to tow a truck load of electronics. You can only practically jam lasers.

Oh, the reason that I don't have one is that Mrs B won't let me. She says my detector is ok but active lawbreaking is not. I'm not going to debate the point as no sex for the next year is a likely result. I'll take my chances with getting caught, thank you.

[sAsLEX]

You have to buy a licence to transmit on any frequencies other than those allocated to licence free (amateur) radios (UHF and VHF PRR), 1.4GHz, 2.4GHz (a small part) and a few others (very high) UHF freqs.

If you transmit on the same frequency as someone else, particularly someone who has paid their licence fee, then you're committing an offence.


See thats the answer I was after, I thought it was something like that but gr81's statement that they are illegal needed some evidence/reason

[onearmedbandit]

Ok, so you're happy now....

[GR81]

See thats the answer I was after, I thought it was something like that but gr81's statement that they are illegal needed some evidence/reason
ill close my ass next time i talk hehe :D

[WINJA]

i heard a guy bought a jammer type device from briscoes for about $30 , its was a big craving knife and he jammed it in a cops leg , apparently it stoped the cop handing out tickets for about 6 months

[onearmedbandit]

I shouldn't laugh, but ah fuck it, that was funny.

Unless it was true.

[nadroj]

Oh, the reason that I don't have one is that Mrs B won't let me. She says my detector is ok but active lawbreaking is not. I'm not going to debate the point as no sex for the next year is a likely result. I'll take my chances with getting caught, thank you.[/QUOTE]

Just proves "the harder you go at it the more expensive it is"

[thehollowmen]

You will need a license to transmit on the police bands

I wouldn't be surprised though if some plonker at the govt department actually issued you with one.

EDIT: somebody beat me to it.

Now the interesting matter is, if you have this on constantly, and the police have this on intermittently, THEY will be committing an offence if they aim at your vehicle and turn it on.

[acewheelie]

Sorry to be a kill joy, but why not save the speeding for the track, and if you don't and get caught, see the fine for what it is, a fun tax!

[tl_tub]

Naa. Ive got a mate in frquencies, and they go through a lot to make sure no one upsets anyone else.

I have seen mention of an active radar jammer on an american website, but they mentioned it seems to be out of production.

Just mix carbon and flat black paint and use this to repaint your bike. Let us know how it goes :)




You will need a license to transmit on the police bands

I wouldn't be surprised though if some plonker at the govt department actually issued you with one.

EDIT: somebody beat me to it.

Now the interesting matter is, if you have this on constantly, and the police have this on intermittently, THEY will be committing an offence if they aim at your vehicle and turn it on.

[Blackbird]

I have seen mention of an active radar jammer on an american website, but they mentioned it seems to be out of production.


The Blinder is an active LASER jammer, the other crap like the Rocky Mountain is not and doesn't work. They connect through a high end detector as the detection device which activates the jammer.

[thehollowmen]

Or you could string metal beads on a half-wavelength of nylon and tassel up your bike and hope the reflection from them causes noise problems...
*snicker*

Carbon and flat black might transmit radar rather than reflecting it, but the engine block and frame will still reflect radar. I guess you could clad everything in RAM but .. really why bother :-P



Just mix carbon and flat black paint and use this to repaint your bike. Let us know how it goes :)

[tl_tub]

Nooo.. i thought we were talking about radar here? I was anyway.
I actually saw a active radar jammer on a website.


The Blinder is an active jammer, the other crap like the Rocky Mountain is not and doesn't work. They connect through a high end detector as the detection device which activates the jammer.

[tl_tub]

I was wondering if shagpile carpet would work?? :)

I spent a few hours last night looking at RAM. Carbon is the go, by the looks of it


Or you could string metal beads on a half-wavelength of nylon and tassel up your bike and hope the reflection from them causes noise problems...
*snicker*
Carbon and flat black might transmit radar rather than reflecting it, but the engine block and frame will still reflect radar. I guess you could clad everything in RAM but .. really why bother :-P

[thehollowmen]

That might be the cause of the seat in this thread!!! GENIUS

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=32517

I was under the impression that carbon had a high transmission of radar waves, I probably have been missinformed though.


I was wondering if shagpile carpet would work?? :)

I spent a few hours last night looking at RAM. Carbon is the go, by the looks of it

[madboy]

I heard about some american radar jammer years ago that worked, and everything else that didn't work. Story I heard was that because the jammer worked it was therefore illegal and so they stopped making it. That was back in the K band days. Ka I gather is a different story as suggested by others here.

That link to that website was informative... So I'm buying a Blinder next, aye? Considering I've never run a radar detector on a bike, and I've never had a speeding ticket on a bike. And bugger me, I've never obeyed the speed limit on a bike. Where's the logic in that? I think I'll just stick with the tried and true, Version 1.0 Eyeballs, backed up by Homemade Flexible Right Wrist.

[sAsLEX]

I heard about some american radar jammer years ago that worked, and everything else that didn't work. Story I heard was that because the jammer worked it was therefore illegal and so they stopped making it. That was back in the K band days. Ka I gather is a different story as suggested by others here.



Just a diff freq, the thing that makes it hard is good radars now operate over a few different frequencies within Ka so you would have to jam a few or have a flexble jammer that could freq hop

[Patch]

Just fit your bike with some magic mirrors - problem solved

or

the simple version . . . .

Don't farkin speed cause don't you know, speed kills blah blah farkin blah




:stoogie:

[Biff]

Build a cage around your bike made of ferrous metal. Hey presto, a Faraday Cage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage). It'd look like this, and be good for fk all. It's a BMW C-1: http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcbmw/mcphotos/c1-1.jpg

[What?]

I'm sure someone will be able to provide an actual link to the law regarding it. But if you stop to think about it at the least you are interfering with the police and their ability to catch a 'criminal'. This in itself is against the law. Then on top of that there is no doubt some legislation regarding radio transmitters. If I have the time I'll look it up.
Radio transmission reg's don't come into it (but you are right, I guess, that they technically could) - it is specifically unlawful to operate equipment that interferes with the man's detection equipment. Detectors are legal as they do not interfere.

[Lou Girardin]

The reason radar jammers are illegal is that the power required to jam Police radar is in excess of the 1 watt (?) that you may transmit without a licence. You could apply for a licence for a 5 or 10 watt Ka band transmitter, but I don't think you'd get approval somehow.
The other issue is the difficulty of building a jammer that will jam the whole Ka band. This is a much wider freq band than K or X bands. It can be done, but the cost may be prohibitive.
Laser jammers are legal as they are not RF transmitters, they transmit light.

[Hellraiser]

For those that currently have laser jammers ........

How many times (if Any) have they saved you from a ticket?

I was looking at getting one but i was talked out of by people telling me that the NZ Police still use RADAR Guns rather than LASER Guns.

[roogazza]

Register as a part maori and just fucken refuse to recognise the NZ Police.

[The Pastor]

Register as a part maori and just fucken refuse to recognise the NZ Police.


ROFL then tell them that you were speeding to save a town from a taniwha that the town has payed you 50 000 nzd to get rid of, and if you dont get there before the moon reaches a certain postion you'r efforts will be in vain. hehe

[The_Dover]

Or tell them it's a tribal custom and that you have ridden at 200+km/h every sunday for the past 2000 years, who are these white pigs to tell you it's against their white mans law.

[The Pastor]

New police guns can detect if you have an active radar jammer....

[Swoop]

Or tell them it's a tribal custom and that you have ridden at 200+km/h every sunday for the past 2000 years, who are these white pigs to tell you it's against their white mans law.
Those Moa's used to go!!! Handling was pretty good in the wet as well!
Just a shame that they were all crashed by young hoons and spare parts couldn't be sourced. (sauced?)

[Lou Girardin]

For those that currently have laser jammers ........

How many times (if Any) have they saved you from a ticket?

I was looking at getting one but i was talked out of by people telling me that the NZ Police still use RADAR Guns rather than LASER Guns.

I've lost count, it's saved me far more than the jammer cost. Our cops don't have handheld radar, only Stalker and Pro laser.

[Da Bird]

Our cops don't have handheld radar, only Stalker and Pro laser.

Not yet anyway... watch this space. :D

[spudchucka]

Laser jammers are legal as they are not RF transmitters, they transmit light.
And your ride looks the shit when you stick laser disks all over the front of it!:blip:

[Lou Girardin]

Not yet anyway... watch this space. :D

Great, there's plenty of overseas precedents about the inaccuracy of those things. Get ready for more days in court.

[sAsLEX]

And your ride looks the shit when you stick laser disks all over the front of it!:blip:

. .

you obviously know the difference between a blinder and hangin a cd on the mirror dont you

[Slingshot]

For those that currently have laser jammers ........

How many times (if Any) have they saved you from a ticket?

I was looking at getting one but i was talked out of by people telling me that the NZ Police still use RADAR Guns rather than LASER Guns.

They do still use both but at least with a detector you get a warning about radar...it may not be enough warning to save you from a ticket all together but you should be able to shave a fair bit of speed off before the police lock you on.

[scumdog]

I've lost count, it's saved me far more than the jammer cost. Our cops don't have handheld radar, only Stalker and Pro laser.

Except when I unhook the antenna from its fitting and use it like a hand-held death-ray....

[Slingshot]

Not yet anyway... watch this space. :D

Do tell more!!!

[Lou Girardin]

Except when I unhook the antenna from its fitting and use it like a hand-held death-ray....


To shave with?