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Hitcher
20th July 2006, 14:00
"Annie shrieked. doe brasilia "He looked at her, honestly puzzled.

Until he could do that, she would have him on a chain as well as in a wheelchair  a chain of Novril capsules. He thought it was. nothing to it. You can't kill the goddess. ""Annie, would you say that cancer is something I have to worry about just now? He suddenly remembered the only incident in his life that came remotely close to this one in its desperate emotional quality. "He opened the package of Corrasable and took out a sheet He took a freshly sharpened pencil and drew a fine on the paper. appeasable

Every day I get about six SPAM messages of this type. Each one unique of content and sender address -- there is no pattern to either, so I cannot filter. The infrastructure required to distribute these must be considerable.

What on earth does the sender want me to do?

Who else gets similar material, and have you figured out what it's all about?

tomthepohm
20th July 2006, 14:02
You need to stop surfing the Porn sites dude.

jazbug5
20th July 2006, 14:05
Yes, and no... bizarre, innit?

mstriumph
20th July 2006, 14:06
yes i did [and i DON'T surf the porn sites lol!]

puzzled me too ......... then i thought .......mmmmmmm ... mebbe it's just a random text generator bot-type-thingy trying to get me to reply and ask "wat's this all about then" then, wammo, i've confirmed my email addy to it ..............

Biff
20th July 2006, 14:06
That's plain ole Spam you've got there Mr H. Merely designed to piss you off and/or overload a server somewhere.

Random text is used in an attempt to bypass spam filters.

Enjoy!

kiwifruit
20th July 2006, 14:13
Gmail will sort all that out


Gmail
Google-owned, web-based email service that includes over 2 gigabytes of storage (and growing).
www.gmail.com

Hitcher
20th July 2006, 14:17
Random text is used in an attempt to bypass spam filters.
That I understand. But why do it?

jazbug5
20th July 2006, 14:21
Gmail will sort all that out


Gmail
Google-owned, web-based email service that includes over 2 gigabytes of storage (and growing).
www.gmail.com

Yeah... I thought that for about 6 months - but the spammers still found me!

kiwifruit
20th July 2006, 14:22
only about 1 in 1000 gets thru to my inbox, it does a pretty flash job of sorting the shit from the real emails :yes:

MSTRS
20th July 2006, 14:54
That I understand. But why do it?
Cos the pimple-faced little fucks can?

Flyingpony
20th July 2006, 15:30
Bawahahahahahah !!!!
What a random spam message.

This must be A-grade spam compared to your average stuff. A very discrete method of selling a product by using what appears to be a perfectly normal paragraph without the slightest spelling or grammar error.

Did you subscribe to the mailing list of an on-line dictionary/book/pharmaceutical site?

Blackbird
20th July 2006, 15:44
Yeah, I get them too Mr H, they seem to come in waves. Exhortations to buy viagra or shonky oil stocks seem to be in vogue this week.

Geoff

Squeak the Rat
20th July 2006, 15:45
Three possible reasons (hypothesising here)....

1. So that when people reply along the lines of "Can you stop sending me this bloody spam", it confirms that your email address is in fact legitimate.

or

2. Some one who knows you has got a virus which is sending you these weird emails whilst spoofing their address.

3. One method of spam is to send a picture that looks like text - the trouble is that a lot of spam filters block it so they put text in the background. Maybe the spammers got a bug or your mail filtering software is removing the images....

TerminalAddict
20th July 2006, 16:11
bleh spamassassin and amavisd abviously need updating :|



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If you interests, more detailed information you can receive on ours web
site: http://www.****.us/ ( please send us email for more information )
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We look forward to your reply.
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Thank you.
Best regards,
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Biff
20th July 2006, 16:11
That I understand. But why do it?

Fuktiphino - a technical term.

Jonty
20th July 2006, 16:32
I seem to get these emails in the background to those dodgy bank emails that are after your pin number. They are only visable if I have a preview pane open. I agree, very random mayber you need a "beautiful mind" to fiqure it out - could be a plan to take over the world!!

Beemer
20th July 2006, 16:43
I usually check the webmail and delete any spam before it gets to my inbox but today I was in a hurry and got two new ones - one sent to Macquarie Bank customers (I am not one) and the other to some other bank customers. Oh yes, of course I will send you all my personal details so you can rip me off, in fact I'd love to - yeah, right!

I get these random text ones too, and heaps of job offers, stock tips and products to "en'larg'e y'our 'pe'ni's" - that must be to get around the filters that pick up on certain words. With Xtra you can block the senders, and what amazes me is that even if there is only one email, when you do this, it comes up with a list of two or three email addresses or domain names. This morning I had two emails and it came up with 12 separate addresses!

I hate spam, and having about 12 different email addresses and three separate webmail accounts doesn't help. Most of the spam comes to the email address on my website, although the Xtra ones attract heaps too - all job offers and ways to 'make money legally'. Thanks, but I already know how to do that, it's called WORKING!

ManDownUnder
20th July 2006, 16:43
That I understand. But why do it?

The shit text bypasses the anti spam filters

They send it and if they DON'T get a bounceback they know your address is still good... then sell it to the real spammers. You then get Viagra ads and the like...

Squeak the Rat
20th July 2006, 16:46
if they DON'T get a bounceback ..
Ahhhhh.....makes sense :doobey:

Macktheknife
20th July 2006, 16:49
The shit text bypasses the anti spam filters

They send it and if they DON'T get a bounceback they know your address is still good... then sell it to the real spammers. You then get Viagra ads and the like...
What he said...
All it does is verify your email address, usually has some kind of open report sent back to the originator behind the scenes. The details are then used for the 'not-spam' because we have your exact email address and can BS that you signed up for it. Delete without opening and carry on .

ManDownUnder
20th July 2006, 16:50
Ahhhhh.....makes sense :doobey:

Yes... little bastrards.

And some of them simply have an embedded image in them which (upon preview) connects to the webserver hosting the image. A unique image name per email (so it's a unique URL requested) and they know who is out there and who ain't.

It's just a big game of cat and mouse... like first time anal sex... a pain in the arse

Mental Trousers
20th July 2006, 16:56
They know you need Viagra Hitcher, they just don't know where to find you so it's a process of elimination. Replies (bounces) tend to confirm the address doesn't exist so they fire emails at the addresses that don't reply.

Switch
20th July 2006, 17:42
:nya: ive never recieved anything like that, im glad too, must be a pain having to delete it everyday. One day someone will figure a way of stopping it... (tui add?) :laugh:

Hitcher
20th July 2006, 21:30
They know you need Viagra Hitcher
If I had availed myself of every penile enhancement offer I had received, my massive priapism would require alternating red and white bands to be applied and a red flashing light to be attached to its furtherest extremity, least it interfere with low-flying aircraft.

kiwifruit
20th July 2006, 21:46
One day someone will figure a way of stopping it... (tui add?) :laugh:


sorry to sound like a broken record, but
www.gmail.com

Hitcher
20th July 2006, 21:59
sorry to sound like a broken record, but
www.gmail.com
A couple of reasons to crack your record:

1. Work email.
2. Having to keep changing your gmail address. Spam will always find you.

kiwifruit
20th July 2006, 22:04
1) work email: well im not sure how your work email works, but it works for me....

2) why keep changing your addy? gmail sorts it for you!



anyone would think im some sort of google advert.... i might shut up now :)

vtec
20th July 2006, 23:13
Yep, I've got gmail. It was bloody good at filtering the spam, but now, these fucken randomised emails with pictures broken down into separate bits and then reassembled if you allow it to show the pics in the email. Fucking annoying. Don't respond. Some spam that I've had recently on clear email had tried to run a program on my computer as soon as I opened luckily I didn't allow it to activate the program because I've got some good firewall and program management software.

smokeyging
21st July 2006, 21:11
OK you guys, what you need is this http://www.mailwasher.net/

The Pastor
21st July 2006, 22:24
Or just hit the delete button? Its only spam lol. Take a brake, take a kit kat.

MikeyG
25th July 2006, 18:38
Knew someone who got one of those emails from Nigeria or somewhere like that needing to transfer cash out of the country but asking for $10k to prove your sincerity. He replied asking for $20 for them to prove their sincerity and never heard from them again - funny that.

Virago
25th July 2006, 19:40
Knew someone who got one of those emails from Nigeria or somewhere like that needing to transfer cash out of the country but asking for $10k to prove your sincerity. He replied asking for $20 for them to prove their sincerity and never heard from them again - funny that.
The now infamous Nigerian Scam, or 419 Scam - although it's amazing how many people still get sucked in. Some people see $$$$$$$$$, and all common sense goes out the window.

Check out this site, the story of a guy who scammed a scammer, made him look like a total "Plonker" (yes Del Boy).....

http://forum.419eater.com/john_boko.htm

Virago
10th September 2006, 22:39
I'm blurdy sick of the stock and viagra spams - had about 6 today.

We're with Xtra, and I've spoken to lots of other Xtra customers who are getting slammed with this shit. Am I just paranoid or are Xtra letting this stuff through on purpose?

Big Dave
10th September 2006, 22:46
Yeah - i get 'em, porn sites that is.....errrr

SARGE
10th September 2006, 23:56
dude .. go get MAILWASHER (http://www.firetrust.com/firetrustpro.html).. lets you preview the email on the server and lets you elect to bounce it back to the origin..

Ixion
10th September 2006, 23:59
Yeah - i get 'em, porn sites that is.....errrr

Completely out of the blue of course, and entirely unwanted. And you can't for the life of you understand how they got your email address. And of course you always delete them unread. Yeah, me too.

Big Dave
11th September 2006, 01:05
Completely out of the blue of course, and entirely unwanted. And you can't for the life of you understand how they got your email address. And of course you always delete them unread. Yeah, me too.

I only surf them for the articles.

Holy Roller
11th September 2006, 01:45
The ones that appear as an invoice nearly got me in trouble with the Mrs as she thought that I was buying stuff again over the net. I had to tell her that it was not from trademe and that it was spam, who needs those little blue pills anyway not me. after the 3rd or 4th of these she finally believed me. Now I delete them when I check the mail at work on the webmail server.

Hillbilly
11th September 2006, 02:33
Do any of you use the "Create Rule" in Outlook or Outlook Express? I don't use Netscape/mozilla/Oprea but I guess they'd have something similar. The "block Sender" rule never works because the email addresses are fake. The best "rule" is to tick the box "in the message body or text" and then type in the things like "UK Modulus Invest" or "V/AGRA" etc etc. The tick either "Permenantly Delete" for Outlook or "Delete From Server" for OE. Eventually they give up as they have their emails set up to send "read receipts". They keep getting "deleted without being read" as a response.

Krayy
11th September 2006, 10:05
...What on earth does the sender want me to do?

Who else gets similar material, and have you figured out what it's all about?
It's a Fnord ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fnord ). Most of them are harmless, just stupid.

Beemer
11th September 2006, 10:11
I signed up with Xtra broadband a few months ago and the amount of spam I get through them is incredible. I check the webmail before downloading it to Outlook Express, but everyday there would about nine or 10. Most are offering me great job opportunities, telling me I have new mail from beautiful women (thanks, but not really into that!), or total crap that doesn't even look genuine. And I'm getting heaps of bogus ones from eBay and the Commonwealth Bank - ooh, looky here, I don't have an account with them but what say I click on the link anyway - yeah, right!

Totally sick of it, but as I have three different email servers, it's not that easy to avoid it. Xtra have an option to report it as spam and it apparently goes to their spam abuse centre - what that means I don't know, because I get so many that it's obvious they aren't doing anything about it. As for blocking senders, I soon ran out of room there - for each email there are often three different addresses attached to it.

jrandom
11th September 2006, 11:27
Fnord

Hail Eris!

phaedrus
11th September 2006, 12:24
spam, what's that?

I have a yahoo email account that I will give out freely to catch spam with, web sites and mailing lists that I trust get my google email account and only people get my regular email account.
every week or so i'll download from my yahoo email account and use that to train spamassassin.

I get about 1-3 spam emails a fortnight.

Hitcher
11th September 2006, 12:49
It's a Fnord.

So I was wasting my time pining for the fjords? (or, in New Zild, "fiords")

jrandom
11th September 2006, 13:48
pining for the fjords...

[Beau'iful plumage, kipping on back, bleedin' demised, I've got a slug...]

There, covered. Perhaps we could assign obligatory conversational sketch carry-ons a number. Like, you mention fjords, I say "147", and we all laugh.

Hitcher
11th September 2006, 13:50
There, covered. Perhaps we could assign obligatory conversational sketch carry-ons a number. Like, you mention fjords, I say "147", and we all laugh.

62. Roofle!!

(Much more efficient. Wipes tears from cheeks)

Krayy
11th September 2006, 14:14
Hail Eris!
"Followers of Eris never pray. Its too dangerous."

Wrap me in plastic and call me a geek

jrandom
11th September 2006, 14:18
"Followers of Eris never pray. Its too dangerous."

The obligatory genuflection doesn't count as dangerous prayer. No favours requested, you see. Still, yes... reminding Her of one's existence could be said to be erring on the brave side.

Fnord.

KATWYN
11th September 2006, 15:53
If I keep getting those blimmin viagra spams I will scream!

I get emails headed up "new order" or "account query" etc etc anything to try and trick me into opening it.

Cheeky I reakon

Big Dave
11th September 2006, 22:52
The obligatory genuflection doesn't count as dangerous prayer. No favours requested, you see. Still, yes... reminding Her of one's existence could be said to be erring on the brave side.

Fnord.

Or in your case: Herring.

miSTa
12th September 2006, 06:59
OK you guys, what you need is this http://www.mailwasher.net/


dude .. go get MAILWASHER (http://www.firetrust.com/firetrustpro.html).. lets you preview the email on the server and lets you elect to bounce it back to the origin..

Couldn't agree more, bouncing spam is very effective. :done:

jrandom
12th September 2006, 08:35
Or in your case: Herring.

A red one, even...

LilSel
12th September 2006, 09:34
I get some at work that say.

"Message for you from Olga-25yo Russian, single"

I sent then to the I.T department and said...

'Can you please block these e-mails, she is not my type'

Response I got back...

'No worries, She's not really ours either' :laugh:

eliot-ness
12th September 2006, 10:50
Never been troubled with spam until last weekend. Then all my emails to the USA started to bounce back with the note, "blocked for abuse" I had no idea what that meant so I made enquiries to Mediacom, the ISP concerned. They informed me that Maxnet, my provider, was considered unsafe and insecure. Being relatively new to computers I've no idea what that means either, apart from the fact that they mentioned spam. I now have to find a new ISP at a reasonable price. As I was also informed that more NZ providers are being looked at in the US with regard to security how does one find an ISP with a good reputation internationally?

Incidentally I emailed customer help at Maxnet, my ISP, four times. No response.

Big Dave
12th September 2006, 18:00
A red one, even...

Gutted. An opportunity to legitimately make the word 'Herring' red and I missed it. Completely gutted.
That opportunity may never happy again in my lifetime.

pyrocam
12th September 2006, 18:24
we use mailmarshall and brightmail and spamhaus's list
seems to work mostly for us. since they are lawyers they actually get work related emails that get blocked relating to "new offer" and "viagra" cases but well, what do they know

jrandom
12th September 2006, 20:54
Gutted. An opportunity to legitimately make the word 'Herring' red and I missed it.

I know.

To be honest, I was surprised. I expected more of you.

And you weren't even posting at 2am.


That opportunity may never happy again...

Yeah, but, you know, verbing 'happy'? That's bleeding-edge counter-culture journalism shit, man. Respect.

Big Dave
12th September 2006, 22:42
I make it up as i go.

http://www.wordspy.com

Virago
13th September 2006, 22:49
I've got Mailwasher Free running now - thanks guys.