Speeding tickets

[Bert]

maybe next time I check this out.

http://www.eslnz.com/radar.html

I wander why this info is given out to the public. NZ a police state, i say.

[ZorsT]

i thought the red display was for the locked speed, not the fastest speed...

[Maha]

Might print that out and keep in my wallet....bloody interesting........:shifty:

[McJim]

I just had a really novel idea after reading about the strengths and weaknesses of the stalker unit. Not that it's got anything to do with the technology itself but what if we all decided to obey the speed limits for a month - and managed to get all the car drivers on board with the idea too - none of the police would be able to hit their 'quotas' for speeding tickets and Helen's Xmas party fund would be fucked. Could we obey the speed limit's for a month to make to Govt look silly?........Nah, doubt it.

[Bert]

I just had a really novel idea after reading about the strengths and weaknesses of the stalker unit. Not that it's got anything to do with the technology itself but what if we all decided to obey the speed limits for a month - and managed to get all the car drivers on board with the idea too - none of the police would be able to hit their 'quotas' for speeding tickets and Helen's Xmas party fund would be fucked. Could we obey the speed limit's for a month to make to Govt look silly?........Nah, doubt it.

Big McJim what a bloody funny idea... that would have the cops really steaming, as we are all told that the idea behind speeding tickets is to get people to slow down, so why did anty helen set a quota, well its all about taking from the rich (deamed as rich by having a mode of personal transport) and filling the coffers to pay for the poor (generally the useless wankers that can't be bothered helping themselves out / up !):nono: :nono:

[oldrider]

I just had a really novel idea after reading about the strengths and weaknesses of the stalker unit. Not that it's got anything to do with the technology itself but what if we all decided to obey the speed limits for a month - and managed to get all the car drivers on board with the idea too - none of the police would be able to hit their 'quotas' for speeding tickets and Helen's Xmas party fund would be fucked. Could we obey the speed limit's for a month to make to Govt look silly?........Nah, doubt it.
All that would happen is that the Government would claim victory and raise direct taxes to make up the deficit. Bastards!

[McJim]

Nicely cynical Oldrider...but if they raised the direct taxes then they wouldn't get in at the next election coz we'd remember the tax hike, the broken promises, the totalitarian dictatorship etc. and we'd vote for....we'd vote for.....err....is there anyone worth voting for? Damn....you gotta good point Oldrider.

[Jantar]

All that would happen is that the Government would claim victory and raise direct taxes to make up the deficit. Bastards!

No, There would still be accidents, so they'd just lower the speed limit further until the revenue came back up to budget.

[Bert]

No, There would still be accidents, so they'd just lower the speed limit further until the revenue came back up to budget.

we will all be doing 50km/h on the open road before we know it.:scooter:

[McJim]

Thought long and hard about the way this is going (not really - sat in front of the telly and sank a beer) and have considered - if we really want to keep riding at workable speeds all we need are inflatable Helen Clark dolls that we can put on our pillions...then any court in the land will let us go as fast as we like!

[Bert]

Thought long and hard about the way this is going (not really - sat in front of the telly and sank a beer) and have considered - if we really want to keep riding at workable speeds all we need are inflatable Helen Clark dolls that we can put on our pillions...then any court in the land will let us go as fast as we like!

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: heeeheee, solution.

[ZorsT]

but then we'd have a media fueled court case

[scumdog]

- none of the police would be able to hit their 'quotas' for speeding tickets

The 'quotas' ain't just for SPEEDING tickets sunshine, any ticket will do.

[scumdog]

i thought the red display was for the locked speed, not the fastest speed...

It's for the 'fastest' - until you lock it.

Then the other speed keeps showing but you can't lock it too.

[spudchucka]

Thats why I only ever issue tickets when its a one on one situation or when the fastest vehicle is so fast that you can visually see that it is moving quicker than anything else in the radar beam. Not all cops are robots, some of us actually know how this stuff works and carry out our duties with that in mind.

[marty]

good point spud. the italicised word GUESS shows the amatuerness of the website writer.

where is the bit about being able to turn the 'fastest' off? or that once locked the 'fastest' disappears? or that you can't actually lock the 'fastest' unless it is also the 'strongest'.

was good for a laugh though

[scumdog]

Thats why I only ever issue tickets when its a one on one situation or when the fastest vehicle is so fast that you can visually see that it is moving quicker than anything else in the radar beam. Not all cops are robots, some of us actually know how this stuff works and carry out our duties with that in mind.

Meh, very true, thought that was screaming obvious stuff - sort of like 'you have to put your feet down when you stop your bike' stuff - but then realised as per your post that not everybody has used the things and knows how they work.

Looked at the site, (the one on Police Radar) looks like a pretty clued-up 12 year old who just completed 'science 101' did it.

[WICKY]

Well spudchuka I can only agree with your coments re the issuing of tickets, I will ony issue when I am 100% sure as I see no point in issuing a dodgy ticket-i guess due to the current poor publicity that the police are getting any enforcement is seen as revenue gathering

[Da Bird]

Funny, when I was being trained on this many years ago, nobody mentioned anything about trains??

Did I miss something??? Scummy??? Spud???

[scumdog]

Funny, when I was being trained on this many years ago, nobody mentioned anything about trains??

Did I miss something??? Scummy??? Spud???

That's 'cos they're SO hard to stop and give tickets to.

[Edbear]

Thats why I only ever issue tickets when its a one on one situation or when the fastest vehicle is so fast that you can visually see that it is moving quicker than anything else in the radar beam. Not all cops are robots, some of us actually know how this stuff works and carry out our duties with that in mind.



You know, Spud, nearly every time you post you're mucking up the steriotype assertions on here! PLease stop posting such reasonable stuff!:nono:

[scumdog]

Took a copy of that article to work tonight, the boys just laughed and reckon it must have been done by a politician because it was full of half truths and was misleading.

Take it with a grain of salt.

Roadside 'discussion' tonight:

Him "So how do you know it was my car doing that speed?"

Me "Yours was the only car on the road sir" (on a straight about 1km long)

Him "Well... there could have been one behind me!"

Me "I cerainly didn't notice any other vehicle"

Him "Well he might have stopped behind me out of sight from you"

WTF?:argh: :wacko: :spudwhat:

[marty]

i showed it to a HP mate of mine who gets about 30 tickets a day. he laughed!

[McJim]

The 'quotas' ain't just for SPEEDING tickets sunshine, any ticket will do.
Many thanks for the use of the word 'Sunshine'...really makes me feel valued and warm inside - also goes some way in my mind at least of redressing the stereotypical imbalance created by spudchucka! I was just trying to add a bit of levity to the discussion. I am fully aware that there are actually no quotas per se but that there are revenue targets within the police force and that there are various vehicles of revenue made available to each force to reach these targets of which speeding tickets are only one. However the speeding tickets are the ones in the eyes of the media currently and therefore were amusing to pass comment on. Since you felt the need to call me 'Sunshine' I can only assume that the sweeping comment I made has offended you..in that case I am sorry - it was not my intention to cause offence.

[Squeak the Rat]

Jeez ScumDog, we'd better send you on a 3 day be-nice-to-customers course. :nya:

:rofl:

[scumdog]

. I am fully aware that there are actually no quotas per se but that there are revenue targets within the police force

Hey, don't panic about the 'sunshine thing, just me being flippant and adding a touch of levity to the whole affair!!:D :laugh: :nya:

And to reiterate: There are no 'revenue' targets: there ARE contact targets (ergo a quota) but there are NO monetary value required on them.

If you read some of my earlier posts you will see that quite a few of MY ticket generate no revenue whatsoever, although obviously the majority do but I din't go out there to see how many I can get.

In the last ten days I have issued FIVE, two of which were 'compliance' i.e. non-revenue gathering. (As long as the person fixes the fault on thier vehicle).

They don't even cover me wages.

I guess I'll get sacked for not meeting my quota - then all the grateful public will clamour to support myself and my family for being so lenient and thumbing my nose at the bosses. (WINJA?)
Yeah right!!

[spudchucka]

In the last ten days I have issued FIVE,
My tally for the year so far is less than 40, (I'm waiting for the boss to call me into the office for a chat).

I've done about 12 TON's though, mostly EBA's and a few careless, hopefully that'll keep them from getting up me too hard.

[scumdog]

My tally for the year so far is less than 40, (I'm waiting for the boss to call me into the office for a chat).

I've done about 12 TON's though, mostly EBA's and a few careless, hopefully that'll keep them from getting up me too hard.

Yeah get a few TONS too (EBAs mainly), last night was an older chap, all over the road, he'd had a couple (FAIL YOUTH) and dog-tired so FARMED him, he was o.k. with that.

[spudchucka]

How about that "Cousin It" looking sheila on the news recently, she had a blood reading of over 400. The court should have ordered her body donated to science because all things considered she should have been dead!

[scumdog]

How about that "Cousin It" looking sheila on the news recently, she had a blood reading of over 400. The court should have ordered her body donated to science because all things considered she should have been dead!

I bet it's not very often that a drunk gets told: "Sorry, you've blown the machine off the scale, we'll have to ask you for a blood sample"

And 'she' didn't think she had an alcohol problem!!:gob:

[Lou Girardin]

visually see that it is moving quicker .

You used to do F1 commentary, didn't you?

Unlike the good ol' boys on this site, there are plenty of cops who'll book the first thing in sight. I've seen a cop nail one car out of a group on passing lanes because he was first and in the right lane. The speeding car could have been any of 10. (including mine)

[scumdog]

You used to do F1 commentary, didn't you?

With me it's 'visually hear that it is moving quicker' - or is that 'audibly see that it is moving quicker'?:doobey:

[spudchucka]

You used to do F1 commentary, didn't you?

Unlike the good ol' boys on this site, there are plenty of cops who'll book the first thing in sight. I've seen a cop nail one car out of a group on passing lanes because he was first and in the right lane. The speeding car could have been any of 10. (including mine)
In those situations the driver should definately defend the ticket, wouldn't be too hard to establish reasonable doubt.

I find F1 completly boring, since the end of the Prost & Senna days I've hardly been interested in it at all.

[Lou Girardin]

In those situations the driver should definately defend the ticket, wouldn't be too hard to establish reasonable doubt.

I find F1 completly boring, since the end of the Prost & Senna days I've hardly been interested in it at all.

I was referring to Murray Walkerisms, like 'visually see'.
The new champ is the pommie tosser who does MotoGP. At Assen, he was so busy blithering about some inconsequential drivel that he missed Edwards binning it.
He makes me feel like vomiting nauseously.

[McJim]

I happily stand corrected Scumdog - cheers for that. However I don't want you to lose your job so here's an idea. Stick an L plate and a camcorder on your bike. When the cage drivers see that L plate they drive like loonies - you'll be bound to be able to cite at least 35 per day!:niceone:

[spudchucka]

I was referring to Murray Walkerisms, like 'visually see'.
The new champ is the pommie tosser who does MotoGP. At Assen, he was so busy blithering about some inconsequential drivel that he missed Edwards binning it.
He makes me feel like vomiting nauseously.
Yeah, I knew you were referring to Murray Walker, the guy that does WSB is intensley annoying too, his voice makes me cringe.

I'd like to hear Murray Mexted commentate some motor racing too, that'd be funny.

[Lou Girardin]

Yeah, I knew you were referring to Murray Walker, the guy that does WSB is intensley annoying too, his voice makes me cringe.

I'd like to hear Murray Mexted commentate some motor racing too, that'd be funny.

He'd go nuts looking for a ball.

[Skyryder]

I'd like to hear Murray Mexted commentate some motor racing too, that'd be funny.

He'd see the guys in leathers and go 'ape hangers.'

Skyryder

[Grahameeboy]

He'd see the guys in leathers and go 'ape hangers.'

Skyryder

Can I say I like Murray Walker.........:wait:

[Edbear]

He makes me feel like vomiting nauseously.



Is there another way...?:sunny:

[Lou Girardin]

Can I say I like Murray Walker.........:wait:

Of course you can.

[bane]

Can I say I like Murray Walker.........:wait:

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