Fxr or Kr? [Archive] - Kiwi Biker forums

Wasp

23rd July 2006, 08:57

Either bike would be good, I know people who have learnt on FXRs and KR(R)s, both are lightweight quick agile bikes.

The biggest difference would be that the KR would have a bit more grunt because its a 2-stroke, rg100 can wheelie and stoppy on his and can pretty much keep up with my 250 off the line untill 80-90 ish (he races so absoluty kicks my arse on the corners). phoenixgtr puts up a good fight on his fxr too.

Ive never owned either so i have no idea about how available parts are for them.

Welcome to KB by the way. :grouphug:

Back Fire

23rd July 2006, 09:05

I would vote FXR... most learners forget to look after 2-strokes, and they die quickish if you dont... besides... I've seen 160 on a FXR speedo, not sure how much it lied, alot I would imagine, but its still fast enough to learn on

bobsmith

23rd July 2006, 09:24

If you're a complete learner, I think I would recommand fxr... I had one and it was great to learn on... not FULLY faired so a bit better than other 250s in a crash, etc... however I just got a zzr250 and my gf is actually finding that easier to learn on so, sit down and have a good think about it before you rush out and buy one.

I would say though fxr beats the zzr250's handling hands down and it's much easier to push around and to pick it up if you drop it... (hell I've had some really fun time picking up the zzr the one time I dropped it... I wouldn't see why other 250's would be any different story... how the hell do you guys pick up a bigger bike that you've dropped!!!! :gob: ) and fxr is much cheaper than the 250s. (well maybe with the exception of the gn250 but I hear they don't handle that great and isn't any faster than fxr....???_

Hell I don't know what point I'm trying to make... I suppose I'm just telling you what ever I know so you can make an informed decision... fxr is a great fun machine around corners but some people (like me) get bored with it pretty quick....

anyway... never mind.

oh and welcome

Mr. Peanut

23rd July 2006, 10:20

If it's the KRR (Water cooled) and it's been looked after you won't regret the extra maintenance, damn fast machines, but you WILL have to learn how to take care of it.

If you're looking at a KR150, dont bother, not much faster than the FXR, if at all.

Can't go wrong with the FXR, awesome learners bike.

Racey Rider

23rd July 2006, 10:38

If you're looking at a KR150, dont bother, not much faster than the FXR, if at all.

WHAT!!!? :gob:

What do you base THAT on?

Wasp

23rd July 2006, 14:05

Him and a mate must have been seeing how fast they could go backwards :rofl:

Str8 Jacket

23rd July 2006, 15:41

KR150 definately are alot faster than an FXR!

kiwifruit

23rd July 2006, 16:51

For someone who has never owned a bike id say the fxr is a great place to start.
The kr is a bit more temperamental, doesnt really work unless you are in the power band, they need more servicing genarally but its simple stuff.
The kr is way faster, about 150% the power. Both great bikes for learning on.

Welcome to the site :)

Theatre

23rd July 2006, 18:44

Welcome!
I faced the same question a few months ago and ended up getting a KR. Its my first bike and I think its an awesome learner. The only down sides I've noticed so far are the speedo being optimistic and the lawnmower noise (although I personally think it has a great scream at high revs). I think the newer KRs look better than the fxrs and having the extra power is nice so that you don't lose speed going uphill at motorway speeds plus some other reasons :innocent: . From what I've heard a good service history is a must for the KR. Both bikes are great for a learner imo.

Quartermile

23rd July 2006, 22:42

Yea thanks,
I personally have an Fxr but didnt want to say that so no bias came through but my mate who is looking at buying the hos only enough realy for a 150 and he wants to learn on a 150 also but hes not sure which one out of these two he likes, he sort of wants the Fxr but dosnt want to copy, so he has to make a decision.

Thanks for the help. :)

Indiana_Jones

27th July 2006, 20:15

FXR :D

-Indy

MattRSK

27th July 2006, 20:17

KR :D

-Matt

inlinefour

27th July 2006, 20:26

My mate is looking at buying either a Fxr or a Kr which is better overall for a learner and restricted bike?

But I know a young fella in NP with a 2000 kr150 f/s for $1600-00 and its in mint condition.

Mr. Peanut

27th July 2006, 21:53

KR - KRR there's a difference, the KR is pathetic. What's %150 faster than slow anyway :motu:

vtec

27th July 2006, 23:05

If you want to race streetstock, then get the KR, if you want to learn to ride, and plan on doing some km's, then get the FXR... too easy to look after.

MidnightMike

6th August 2006, 10:01

Id say fxr, but a different colour or you guys will look gay.

either way you guys wont keep up with me when i get my 250 twin. :rockon:

texmo

6th August 2006, 11:59

The kr would be shit to commute on, being a two stroke and all on the cold mornings it just wouldnt wanna do it.

Str8 Jacket

6th August 2006, 12:55

The kr would be shit to commute on, being a two stroke and all on the cold mornings it just wouldnt wanna do it.

Nah, mines sweet. Usually starts first kick if not then definately the second one... As long as I let it warm up for a couple of minutes before taking of it runs sweet. Except for being blown over I have had no issues whatsoever with my KR and it definately crashes well. Runs sweet on partially or fully synthetic oil doesnt eat it *too* fast and it runs better on 91 than any other petrol. Besides 2 strokes rock!! :yes:

texmo

6th August 2006, 12:59

Nah, mines sweet. Usually starts first kick if not then definately the second one... As long as I let it warm up for a couple of minutes before taking of it runs sweet. Except for being blown over I have had no issues whatsoever with my KR and it definately crashes well. Runs sweet on partially or fully synthetic oil doesnt eat it *too* fast and it runs better on 91 than any other petrol. Besides 2 strokes rock!! :yes:
Yeah two strokes definitly rock. I just dont like them as a commuter unless its a tourqe engine like a rv150 or something.

Str8 Jacket

6th August 2006, 13:07

Fair enough. I love commuting on mine, but I did have a GN before this so its not really any competition...

Theatre

6th August 2006, 21:11

Nah, mines sweet. Usually starts first kick if not then definately the second one... As long as I let it warm up for a couple of minutes before taking of it runs sweet. Except for being blown over I have had no issues whatsoever with my KR and it definately crashes well. Runs sweet on partially or fully synthetic oil doesnt eat it *too* fast and it runs better on 91 than any other petrol. Besides 2 strokes rock!! :yes:
Agreed. Mine starts first/second time without fail. Im getting 30km/L on it (is that normal?) commuting and occasional highway. The lack of power down low, especially when cold, is a bit of a pain in the ass but its not too bad and the bike more than makes up for it at higher revs :yes:

Maverick

7th August 2006, 09:44

I used to have a FXR and it was a really good bike, I forgot to oil the chain regularly, forgot to check the oil regularly, forgot to put the cover on at nights and still never had any problems in the three odd years that I owned it.
Being a 4 stroke there was no nasty powerband to surprise a new rider, and it was still agile and light enough to blow off all the cages at the lights, top speed I recorded on mine was 140 going down a slight hill on the motorway, reaches 110 easy, 115 easy with no major headwind, 125 pushing it.
Tended to struggle up big hills a bit being just a single cylinder to try hold high speed.

The downsides? Thin tyres mean you have to be careful in the wet and when its windy (the stock tyres are crap). Other then that, its a great bike! :)

:rockon:

The Pastor

7th August 2006, 14:27

(hell I've had some really fun time picking up the zzr the one time I dropped it... I wouldn't see why other 250's would be any different story... how the hell do you guys pick up a bigger bike that you've dropped!!!! :gob: )

Its all in how you do it. I'll let you in on a secret - this is how I pick my 260kg dry bike up. You lift it. Its not hard....

fxr if to learn on is good, I think they keep there value better than a kr (someone confirm or deny please)

ben

8th August 2006, 13:40

KR - KRR there's a difference, the KR is pathetic. What's %150 faster than slow anyway :motu:

KR will burn any fxr any day.

Anyone want a race???

Ill prove it!!!:chase:

Flyingpony

8th August 2006, 15:48

I've had my FXR since new going on 4 years.
It's never given any problems.
Rides awesome as a commuter machine.
It returns 37km/l on 91.

Mr. Peanut

8th August 2006, 17:40

KR will burn any fxr any day.

Anyone want a race???

Ill prove it!!!:chase:

Not if it runs out of gas... :nya:

The KR150 I'm talking about has wire spoke wheels, an air cooled engine, and a rear drum brake. Not the water cooled one.

Yes, it's faster :zzzz:
But it isn't nearly as good a learner.

Racey Rider

8th August 2006, 17:50

Interesting.
I've never heard of a KR150 that was air cooled.
Got any pictures?
Are you sure your not talking about a Suzuki RGV150?

Mr. Peanut

8th August 2006, 20:34

:nono: I've been talking out my arse.

RG150E = water cooled single - fast
RGV150 = air cooled single - slow (commuter)

Now this is were I got confused

KR150 = water cooled single - fast
KRR150 = water cooled single - fast

Both KR's are fast. But not as good for a learner. Im sure I saw an air cooled kr somewhere though.... :innocent:

Racey Rider

8th August 2006, 20:41

:nono: I've been talking out my arse.

Well said! :niceone:

we forgive you. :rockon:

Sketchy_Racer

8th August 2006, 20:51

I love my KR.

It has plenty of bottom end power.

A big flat spot in the middle

and good power for a 150cc at the top end.

The flat spot would be good for the newbies as you would know exactly when the power band is gonna come on.

sits a 100 kph really well 6th gear on the flat 5th gear up a hill or for hard head wind

Str8 Jacket

8th August 2006, 20:53

My KR's been an awesome learners bike, and I also commute on it 10k's each way to work everyday! RG, how the hell do you get your bike to stay at 100 in 6th gear? What's it revving at?

Sketchy_Racer

8th August 2006, 21:05

Str8 Jacket

8th August 2006, 21:11

about 5,000rpm.

I changed the front sproket to give it more top speed so that it would stay below the flat spot in the middle of the the bottom end power and the top end power.

Iv'e seen the speedo nedle go waaay past 200kph a few times now where with the old gearing it used to just hit 200. (optimistic speedo of course. Real speed about 180 ish)

Mine dies on 6th gear so I dont really use it...

Mines stock and I think I have the same engine as yours (may be wrong though) and I have only got mine up to 170 on the clock which may or may not be closer to 180. Ive been pulled over for doping 66 when my speedo read 60 and the other day I went passed one of those ACC speed reading thingymawhatsits at 50 on my clock exactly but the LCD screen said I was doing 56. Go figure?!

Sketchy_Racer

8th August 2006, 21:20

lol

i think our engines are similar, but i know yours has a different Pipe on it

Str8 Jacket

8th August 2006, 21:22

lol

i think our engines are similar, but i know yours has a different Pipe on it

Yeah, thats right. Mines alot louder, must be where all its power is going, eh?! lol

Sketchy_Racer

8th August 2006, 21:27

Might just be that!

The packing in your muffler my have blown out reducing the Back pressure the a two stroke engine requires to run properly - or as it was designed.

Not a issue though. You may also find that the old Piston and Rings in your bike may cause a power loss.

My bike only has 10,000 kms on it so its only half worn ;)

Str8 Jacket

8th August 2006, 21:30

Mines got 33000 k's on it now so it's definately well worn. Need to get a new bike soon so I dont have to spend too much on it!

Sketchy_Racer

8th August 2006, 21:33

Haha

Yeah i think that waht im gonna do to my KR when it gets to that stage.

although, i wanna MOD the hell out of and see how much power i can get it to make!!

madkeenandy

16th August 2006, 20:13

For a commuter get an FXR, good bike top speed of 151km/h (I know thats the highest I could get down the staight at Ruapuna) lots of bottom end power and talk and cheap to run.

The Kr150s and Rg150s are good fast wee bikes but scoff fuel and oil like its going out of fashion. It may be different on the road, i wouldn't know. They have a top speed of 180km/h but are two strokes so no bottem end.

Any way its funner to fully thrash a FXR than only partially thrash a KR/RG ;)

Str8 Jacket

16th August 2006, 20:20

The Kr150s and Rg150s are good fast wee bikes but scoff fuel and oil like its going out of fashion. It may be different on the road, i wouldn't know. They have a top speed of 180km/h but are two strokes so no bottem end.

My KR is very efficient on fuel and oil.... 150 k's before reserve (found that out the other day, doh!) and $15 at the most to fill. I do quite a few thousand k's before refilling the oil and thats a litre of Castrol TTS fully synthetic at $25 or there abouts. I do keep my revs up and im not particuarly slow either... The bike eats the fuel and oil quicker on longer rides but not majorly...
I may just be biased as well though. Ive really enjoyed owning a Two stroke, loads of fun!