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Lou Girardin
26th July 2006, 11:30
A Taranaki cop has been charged with EBA after being breath tested at the scene of a fatal accident.
The story I read said that he'd been drinking with one of the dead drivers who left his place. Soon after he received a call to bring 2 oxy bottles to the scene. Apparently he was closest by quite a margin. When he arrived, another cop at the scene smelt booze and breath tested him.
I guess you can debate the rights and wrongs of his actions till you're blue in the face. But he was trying to help, why didn't the other cop turn a blocked nose?

Motu
26th July 2006, 11:34
Did this other cop have a well trimmed mustache and shiny boots? There are back stabbing pricks in every job.Of course Brutus has done no wrong,but he's still a prick to bring down a guy who did his best....

Ixion
26th July 2006, 11:35
Reading between the lines , in some of the press stuff, I sense undercurrents. Think maybe he'd made some enemies.

placidfemme
26th July 2006, 11:38
A Taranaki cop has been charged with EBA after being breath tested at the scene of a fatal accident.
The story I read said that he'd been drinking with one of the dead drivers who left his place. Soon after he received a call to bring 2 oxy bottles to the scene. Apparently he was closest by quite a margin. When he arrived, another cop at the scene smelt booze and breath tested him.
I guess you can debate the rights and wrongs of his actions till you're blue in the face. But he was trying to help, why didn't the other cop turn a blocked nose?

My aunt was the second person on the scene after that accident... apparantly it was really bad :(

nadroj
26th July 2006, 13:13
What were his options?

Not attend cos he may have had too much while off duty. (closest backup 45 minutes away with possible extra loss of life due to delay).

Get someone to drive him in the police vehicle with it's equipment to the incident - against police policy to allow non authorized personel to drive departmental vehicles.

Biggest mistake he made was entertaining the 'alledged' person responsible for the incident & turning a blind eye to him driving home from plod's place.

Beemer
26th July 2006, 13:57
By the sound of it, there have been a lot of blind eyes turned in that neck of the woods and perhaps pressure is being put on those who had until now looked the other way. It's one thing to not ticket every speeding driver when you know most of them, it's another to let them drink and drive.

Deano
26th July 2006, 14:08
he was trying to help, why didn't the other cop turn a blocked nose?


By the sound of it, there have been a lot of blind eyes turned in that neck of the woods

I got told in here this week that cops don't ignore ANY offences....:wait:

placidfemme
26th July 2006, 14:25
The cop shouldn't have let the guy drive drunk... but he may not have seemed drunk... i think the cop did the best he could.

Ixion
26th July 2006, 14:33
Wonder if the dobber-copper was HP ? (I assume the dobbed-in one was general duties) .

Mental Trousers
26th July 2006, 14:41
By the sound of it, there have been a lot of blind eyes turned .....

Grew up in Taranaki. Have 1st hand experience of cops turning a blind eye. Went to pick up my father and a few others who were drinking after a Squash tournament. One of the guys told the local cops that called in he was parking his car up for the night and could they keep an eye on it. Both cops told him just to drive home cos the black & whites (yeah this was a while back) had all gone home.

Lou Girardin
26th July 2006, 14:41
Wonder if the dobber-copper was HP ? (I assume the dobbed-in one was general duties) .

The dobber-copper was from Waitara apparently. I think the dobbee was local. Near Mokau?

marty
26th July 2006, 16:09
My aunt was the second person on the scene after that accident... apparantly it was really bad :(

as opposed to not too bad, but someone died anyway.

Lou Girardin
26th July 2006, 16:15
as opposed to not too bad, but someone died anyway.

I've been to one of those. a minor fender-bender with a dead guy at the wheel.
He struck his temple on the seat belt mount.

nadroj
26th July 2006, 19:50
The cop shouldn't have let the guy drive drunk... but he may not have seemed drunk... i think the cop did the best he could.
Word is another at the 'event' offered to drive the culprit home so he stayed for another drink. He went for a piddle then a vehicle started & he was off.

myvice
27th July 2006, 20:01
I've been to one of those. a minor fender-bender with a dead guy at the wheel.
He struck his temple on the seat belt mount.
See, cars are dangrous!
Poor sod, when your numbers up I spose...

scumdog
27th July 2006, 20:39
Ferk, the poor bastard was screwed either way.

Goes to the crash? - "You're drunk matey, come this way.'

Does not turn up? "Ya miserable bastard, you were not THAT drunk, you could have gone and taken the oxygen bottles"

jazbug5
27th July 2006, 20:48
See, cars are dangrous!
Poor sod, when your numbers up I spose...

I worked with an ex UK cop when I was in Oz. He told me about this poor sod who had been waiting at a bus stop in Peckham (London), minding his own business when some bloke who was driving past had a heart attack, spun, and hit the bus stop. This did not kill the waiting guy.

What killed him was that the bus stop snapped, and the sign at the top flicked down like a guillotine and sliced him from the crown of his head down to his pelvis. Apparently he remained upright, and had to be left there while they secured the area and took photos for evidence etc.

Blee!

Ixion
10th January 2007, 12:44
Well, what a bloody silly response from Plod GHQ.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/3923240a11.html

So if an offduty cop sees someone being bashed up , raped or whatever , he's just to stand and watch. Hopefully, whilst he's watching members of the public will do what they can to prevent the crime.

What happens if it's another (on duty) copper being bashed? Is the off duty colleague still to stand and watch his mate being killed? Bearing in mind that it is actually a legal obligation for members of the public to lend such assistance to a police officer as may be requested.

rwh
10th January 2007, 13:12
Presumably this will require a lot more cops - a sole charge cop is pretty pointless if they're only useful 1/3 of the time.

Richard

Squeak the Rat
10th January 2007, 13:35
Common (or rare) sense out the window once again.

So if a cop is being bashed and I help out (even though I've had 3 pints) I'll be a hero, but if mr copper who was drinking with me does he'll get fired.

Bloody morans.


Presumably this will require a lot more cops - a sole charge cop is pretty pointless if they're only useful 1/3 of the time.

Richard

I'm sure they thought of that. :rofl:

yungatart
10th January 2007, 15:54
Looks like someone threw the baby out with the bathwater...again.
I lament the loss of commonsense in our silly world