View Full Version : Should i swap my 2003 r6 for 1999 r1?
RM125king
26th July 2006, 12:21
this guy has offerd to swap his 1999 yamaha r1 with 9000 kms on the clock for my 2003 r6 with 18000 kms on the clock. what do you guys think? i want a r1 but do uthink i should get something newer?
madboy
26th July 2006, 12:24
I'm always a fan of newer. You shouldn't take a backward step in age just for a bit more horsepower.
SimJen
26th July 2006, 12:25
The old R1 is a good bike but still carbed. Better to get a newer thou with injection. Lots of old R1's have been raced too.
ZeroIndex
26th July 2006, 12:33
keep the r6.. save up money and buy a brand new r1 :D
kiwifruit
26th July 2006, 12:34
be tempting!
have you riden the said r1?
Lou Girardin
26th July 2006, 12:48
Sure you should. Then come and see this bridge I have for sale.
skelstar
26th July 2006, 12:58
Better the devil you know.
texmo
26th July 2006, 13:09
Get the new 2006 r6 possibly the best looking motorcycle out there.
jimbo600
26th July 2006, 13:26
No better technology on the 03 bike
RM125king
26th July 2006, 13:32
no i havent ridden it yet. what was the 99 r1 like? anything compared to todays standards. i dont want another r6. need an r1 but i dont want a new one because of the price tag.
Paulus
26th July 2006, 14:35
The 99 R1 has more low end and mid range power than the new one (but less up top). For most times that makes it easy to ride. You can be lazy and still have tons of instant performance on tap. The handling was a little nervous but if you spend a bit on the suspension and maybe a steering damper you may be able to sort it out for you. Reliablity is excellent and weight is about the same as the new one. There is nothing wrong with the carbed motor nor is it any less powerful than the early (02-03) injected motors. The styling is better on these early models IMHO (less angular). PB seem to like this old bus as well - look in any recent issue. All this is my opinion of course, others may disagree.
**R1**
26th July 2006, 14:36
no i havent ridden it yet. what was the 99 r1 like? anything compared to todays standards. i dont want another r6. need an r1 but i dont want a new one because of the price tag.If you ride it you will swap...I promise,
the R6 is like a kids toy compared to the R1 older or newer the R1 is far more fun.....I'd swap
one thing tho, what duz your model R6 sell for compared to a similar year and K's R1??
imdying
26th July 2006, 18:11
keep the r6.. save up money and buy a brand new r1I'd be inclined to do this also... not necesarily brand new, but certainley later.
myvice
26th July 2006, 20:28
Get the new 2006 r6 possibly the best looking motorcycle out there.
Ya reckon?
Looks like a poorly thought out transformer!
I’d stick with the 6, but I have mistrust for the older R1’s…
Too twitchy
R6_kid
26th July 2006, 21:07
where do you ride? How do you ride? Like wheelies? Like your licence?
If you like twisties the 600 is your friend, like straights and sweepers, R1 wants your babies.
You like to throw the bike around 600 is your friend, SQUID - R1 wants your babies
Lots of skill to do wheelies then r6 is all good, hamfisted but can control the throttle - r1 wants your babies.
Licence? - r1 wants your babies.
To be honest. If you sold your R6 or even trade it in you would only be about $4000 short on the new R6.
slowpoke
27th July 2006, 00:14
The 99 R1 has more low end and mid range power than the new one (but less up top). For most times that makes it easy to ride. You can be lazy and still have tons of instant performance on tap. The handling was a little nervous but if you spend a bit on the suspension and maybe a steering damper you may be able to sort it out for you. Reliablity is excellent and weight is about the same as the new one. There is nothing wrong with the carbed motor nor is it any less powerful than the early (02-03) injected motors. The styling is better on these early models IMHO (less angular). PB seem to like this old bus as well - look in any recent issue. All this is my opinion of course, others may disagree.
I'm kinda with Paulus and **R1** on this one, go for the R1. But why don't you just go for a ride on the bugger...what are doing asking us if you haven't even gone for a squirt? Oh, I get it....maybe you are more worried about what other people think of your "has to be new" toy than how it actually rides. In that case stick with your higher km but "newer and therefore must be better" ride.
Assuming you are seriously considering it, here's a few points that sprang into what's left of my mind:
1/ Both machines weigh virtually the same
2/ Both machines employ the same front brake calipers but R1 discs are larger so it should brake better
3/ R1 has upside down forks, R6 conventional
4/ R1 has done way less km's (suspension etc in better shape)
5/ R6 looks more "modern"
6/ R1 needs a steering damper (if not fitted)
7/ Up to you whether you prefer slightly snatchy fuel injection or smoother less efficient carbs
8/ Torquey R1 will not have been revved as hard as a peaky 600 (if you're not revving it you won't be ready for an R1)
9/ R1 has way more torque and +30hp
To my mind the 98-99 R1 is a modern classic that changed the way we look at superbikes. It is older but undeniably quicker than your 600. It really comes down to whether you have the potential funds to buy something newer in the near future. If not, then the R1 is a good way of getting a huge performance increase without laying out any more dosh.
Here's a link to the Performance Bikes article mentioned above:
http://www.r1-forum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=120858&highlight=turn
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