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soundbeltfarm
28th July 2006, 17:44
Got a warrant today and the guy at the testing station is a primo bloke.
he gave me the warrant then said lets see how loud it really is.
we put it on his noise thingymajig tester.
my bike TLs with two brothers cans was rated as follows:
AT idle it was 94 decibels
and at half throttle was 113 decibels.
he said thats where they test them at half throttle.
the other guy in there wouldn't have gave me a warrant he said , so am stoked i got the good guy.
he just said go slow past the cops.
while i was there i hung around to see what the cars were doing and a normal car eg: corona etc was about 70 decibels and then some guy in a subaru with what looked like a 44 gallon drum came in and it was 110.
Motu
28th July 2006, 17:57
So is this one of the official test centres - or just a testing station with a Db meter?
SlashWylde
28th July 2006, 22:29
Sounds like it's time for a ride to the 'Naki. What was the name of the testing station again? :msn-wink:
degrom
28th July 2006, 22:52
A TL1000S/TLR that's not loud, is not a true V-twin!!!
marty
29th July 2006, 00:58
A TL1000S/TLR that's not loud, is not a true V-twin!!!
so what is it?
ZeroIndex
29th July 2006, 02:14
so what is it?
those sound so awesome.. hooray for v-twin superbikes :D
oooh, bit of an offtopic (although v-twin does fit into the equation):
was in a driveway on Killarney Rd (Hamilton) on my postbike this morning (Friday), getting ready to get back onto the road from delivering a letter, and a Harley comes up the hill (from the lake), and I do the 'head nod' to him, at which he almost stops what he's doing, and lifts up his left hand and waves :D haha, I was really impressed.. first time I've seen such generosity from a HD rider.. maybe they're not such a bad bunch after all :first:
..so.. to the HD rider, who is man enough to wave to a rider on a postbike:
BIG UPS!!!!!
soundbeltfarm
29th July 2006, 07:56
So is this one of the official test centres - or just a testing station with a Db meter?
Not sure.
he said they've failed a few cars that have come in with green stickers put on them.
Excuse my ignorance as im not sure what that means but is that what the cops put on a car if they think its not up to warrant standard?
he also tested my bike at a drive by distance and i think he was about 7M away from me and when i went passed at about 50kph it was inbetween 97-98 decibels.
The tester he had wasn't very big.
the cops will have them soon enough i reckon it was just in a case and folded out with tripod legs on it.
not big at all.
He also said people were getting gauze mesh and putting alot of that over the muffler and putting a hose clip on it which lowered the sound by alot and helped them pass.
then they take it off later.
degrom
29th July 2006, 08:19
This tester must be a biker!!! I have heard that they are after the boy racers with the loud pipes... I winded how long it would take before they were on to us?!? LOL
degrom
29th July 2006, 08:22
so what is it?
It's a HD on steroids with a bunch of IT people to make sure you can't take it to a HD shop with all of the electronics involved... LOL
98tls
29th July 2006, 08:35
A TL1000S/TLR that's not loud, is not a true V-twin!!! i love the sound of my TLs but its started to become to damn loud...pulled into a country gas station the other day and the bloke says to me "its a wonder your not deaf"....i said "pardon" :doobey: anyway he was right so am repacking the cans on monday.
SARGE
29th July 2006, 08:45
if he tested it indoors, that is a non-compliant test.. has to be tested outdoors with no reflecting surfaces..
Motu
29th July 2006, 09:09
Not sure.
Then it was just a testing station with their own Db meter,they have no authority to fail you on a Db reading - they still have to do a subjective test using their ears alone.They sound like a bunch of opiniated pricks stepping over their brief....
diggydog
29th July 2006, 09:46
This tester must be a biker!!! I have heard that they are after the boy racers with the loud pipes... I winded how long it would take before they were on to us?!? LOL
i don't think we have to worry as a 100db will be for us,unless you have modified for a better sound. which i would like to do myself.:rockon:
degrom
29th July 2006, 10:21
i don't think we have to worry as a 100db will be for us,unless you have modified for a better sound. which i would like to do myself.:rockon:
Stock pipes on a v-twin... Never!!! Its like a Ferrari with a 3000rev limiter!!!
degrom
29th July 2006, 10:23
i love the sound of my TLs but its started to become to damn loud...pulled into a country gas station the other day and the bloke says to me "its a wonder your not deaf"....i said "pardon" :doobey: anyway he was right so am repacking the cans on monday.
At least hearing aids are getting cheaper these days!!! LOL
sAsLEX
29th July 2006, 11:39
Stock pipes on a v-twin... Never!!! Its like a Ferrari with a 3000rev limiter!!!
lol the Lambo Gallardo I pulled up next to yesterday, came up to my seat on the bike!, would be classed as one of the louder vehicles around but I doubt any cop would green sticker that as it sounded beatiful (real good) compared to the evo 4 2 cars back which was jsut as loud.
soundbeltfarm
29th July 2006, 12:03
if he tested it indoors, that is a non-compliant test.. has to be tested outdoors with no reflecting surfaces..
was tested outside in a parking lot beside the testing station.
Motu
29th July 2006, 12:09
Not a valid test - this is NOT the new exhaust sound test rules being applied,they are NOT authorised to do this! You will only need to have your exhaust tested with a Db meter if directed to by the Police or an AVIC (WoF testing station) There are only 9 approved meters in the country,in a dedicated test centre...is this what they are,or are they just a WoF testing station?
TLDV8
29th July 2006, 12:16
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0606/S00599.htm
crazybigal
29th July 2006, 13:26
can anyone tell me what the law is for new bikes and cars with stock pipes? some of those HD's are louder with stock pipes than those boy racer cars, yet they get away with it. my car failed, the guy was a prick( i think he get off on it) he said my system wasnt stock and it was too loud, bullshit it is!
there is no one rule, different story at every testing station!
Motu
29th July 2006, 13:29
Read TDLV8's link - it says it all in there....
crazybigal
29th July 2006, 13:38
yeah but will this include new vehicles? are you telling me a new HD has maximum of 100dBA? or are we going to see them modified at the dealer?
didnt we have some rule change a few years ago and a bunch of new cars failed? ford xr8's and so on.?
Read TDLV8's link - it says it all in there....
Motu
29th July 2006, 14:21
You didn't read it did you? I mean really read it,and understand what it said?
degrom
29th July 2006, 19:45
Not sure.
he said they've failed a few cars that have come in with green stickers put on them.
Excuse my ignorance as im not sure what that means but is that what the cops put on a car if they think its not up to warrant standard?
he also tested my bike at a drive by distance and i think he was about 7M away from me and when i went passed at about 50kph it was inbetween 97-98 decibels.
The tester he had wasn't very big.
the cops will have them soon enough i reckon it was just in a case and folded out with tripod legs on it.
not big at all.
He also said people were getting gauze mesh and putting alot of that over the muffler and putting a hose clip on it which lowered the sound by alot and helped them pass.
then they take it off later.
Here is a link on exhaust noise and what they want out of it...
http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/vehicles/objective-noise-test.html
In it they say that it is not part of the WOF test...
sAsLEX
30th July 2006, 14:33
Here is a link on exhaust noise and what they want out of it...
http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/vehicles/objective-noise-test.html
In it they say that it is not part of the WOF test...
Why does the test not apply to in-service Warrant of Fitness inspections?
The test is being rolled out in two stages. The first stage allows the test to be implemented through the existing legal requirements of the Traffic Regulations Act 1976. The second stage is to amend the Vehicle Equipment Rule so that the test can be brought within the WoF/CoF vehicle inspection regime.
Funny that, the original 1976 Traffic Regulations Act already had an objective sound test in it, with all the different levels laid out for different vehicle types laid out and the testing procedure also outline in accordance with international standards.
BUT good old NZ dropped that with the boy racer act or whatever it was called, then relised they had fucked up, and are now introducing a law written by amatuer god knows what instead of following international standards. Bunch of fuckin muppets if you ask me!
APPLE
30th July 2006, 16:59
i love the sound of my TLs but its started to become to damn loud...pulled into a country gas station the other day and the bloke says to me "its a wonder your not deaf"....i said "pardon" :doobey: anyway he was right so am repacking the cans on monday.
i cant believe this?vtwins are meant to be loud,wot r yah, a wuss?cum on turn it up?
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