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cheese
31st July 2006, 12:33
After talking to some old guys with classic race cars the the day, they all said that the best gas you can use in NZ is Gull because it's actually a premium fuel. Apparently all the stuff BP and shell get is here is all the shit everyone else doesn't want! So we get the dregs! But cause gull comes direct from singapore (or something) it's better. And apparently your engine will last longer with it too!

True you think? I am currently using BP ultimate after reading that avgas is a waste of time.

Biohazard
31st July 2006, 12:47
Kinda rings a bell, I know it happens in the UK all the Supermarkets sell the cheap nasty stuff....

Always use BP Ultimate on the bike.....

Hasn't a Shell ( i think it was Shell not 100% sure on that one) garage in Hamilton just been investigated for selling dodgy fuel, that has killed 10 engines so far....

Brian d marge
31st July 2006, 12:58
Gasoline from one of the bigger chains is fine for Hondas , They are designed to run on MTTB oxygenated fuel of 91 octane ( cant remember the Ron/Mon but its around 86 octane )

In older 2 strokes the squish area needs to be change to stop detonation , other than that you are fine

Try this new shell according to fair go you get a few more kms out of a litre !!!

Stephen

cheese
31st July 2006, 14:23
but I thought that the new shell fuel uses methanol which is a 2 stroke killer?

Brian d marge
31st July 2006, 16:54
No one knows the secret formula of whats in there , but its an Highly oxygenated fuel , methanol would do the same thing ) all that means is you would have to jet differently or it would be running leaner, with corresponding piston crown temp rise.

You ould do more damage by running cheap oil .... oh how do I know that
says he resting his leg on a crankshaft assembly !!

Stephen

cheese
31st July 2006, 17:02
LOL yeah I only use Motul 800 in my bike. Think I'll try the gull then for a while. see how it goes.

tysonzane
31st July 2006, 19:33
Genuine AV Gas from a special source at a certain Airport :D . Its the Biz :thumbsup: .

umka
31st July 2006, 20:32
BP taupo sells AV gas seems to work fine in the old 2t

Brian d marge
31st July 2006, 22:26
I ll sell you sme gasoline garrenteed to work with all Honda Motorcycles, Cheaper than Av gas , but jUST AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER

Stephen

ZeroIndex
1st August 2006, 01:20
Kinda rings a bell, I know it happens in the UK all the Supermarkets sell the cheap nasty stuff....

Always use BP Ultimate on the bike.....

Hasn't a Shell ( i think it was Shell not 100% sure on that one) garage in Hamilton just been investigated for selling dodgy fuel, that has killed 10 engines so far....
haha, no, unfortuanately, it was a BP (the one in Ohaupo, by the speed camera)

but yeah, I use 91 octane from either Mobil, Caltex, and BP (whichever is closest), just will stay away from Shell, and Ohaupo BP, Hamilton <-- dodgy water in fuel.. on my Honda CT110 though, I'll use 96 octane, mostly from Caltex or Gasolene Alley(Shell if I have to) - Those are the main ones on my post run, and the bike uses less petrol on 96 than 91 (saves about $1 per day, even though 96 is more expensive) <-- I use between $5 & $6 of gas per day on the CT (fill up from reserve)

mc4aregreat
2nd August 2006, 21:25
i quote from my owners handbook.

Unleaded gasoline containing MTBE (Ester) may be used in your motorcycle if the mtbe content is not greater than 15%.( contains no alcohol)

Blends of unleaded gasoline and ethanol (grain alcohol), may be used if the ethanol content is not greater than 10%.

fuel containing 5% or less methanol may be used if they contain co-solvents and corrosion inhibitors. DO NOT USE fuels containing more than 5% methanol under any circumstances.(there is also a warranty disclaimer if any damage is caused resulting from the use of such fuel.)

i have tried to find something on the net re these fuels in nz to no success.An aussie mag i read recommended the 98 ultras, and if not available, the best of the rest was Caltex Vortex. in nz this is now called techron. What sort of blend this is i dont know. Re Gull petrol being a higher octane is proberly correct because Challange use to be the same with there petrol i believe comming from Aussie. Challange is now owned by Caltex so its proberly caltex in the pumps now.?

crazyxr250rider
6th August 2006, 16:29
50% av gas 50% 95 is great for high spec bikes (WRF,RMZ,KXF,CRF,ect)
helps your bike go way longer just a bit pricey compared to 91 from some dodgey old bp station......

marty
6th August 2006, 21:06
Genuine AV Gas from a special source at a certain Airport :D . Its the Biz :thumbsup: .

sounds like that special source only finds out that you've filled your bike once they check the fuel level in the morning?

Sketchy_Racer
6th August 2006, 21:55
Meh any shit that is liquid and burns get stuffed into my petrol tank.

The chilli spice seems to aid performance quite well :yes:

GR81
7th August 2006, 12:51
After talking to some old guys with classic race cars the the day, they all said that the best gas you can use in NZ is Gull because it's actually a premium fuel. Apparently all the stuff BP and shell get is here is all the shit everyone else doesn't want! So we get the dregs! But cause gull comes direct from singapore (or something) it's better. And apparently your engine will last longer with it too!
True you think? I am currently using BP ultimate after reading that avgas is a waste of time.
this used to be true about Challenge Petrol Stations about 4-5 years ago when they were newish... everyone gets the same fuel from the same shit place now as far as i know. (dont quote me on this tho)

McJim
7th August 2006, 13:02
From memory you can't actually buy anything less than 95ron in the UK. The choice is generally 95 (cheap stuff) or 98 (for those who love their engines). Selling 91 at the pumps is just the Petrol Company's way of saying F**k You New Zealand.

I use the Mobil 97.5 .....'sgot a brand name on it (that I can't remember) but then so does beer and I only ever look at the %age alcohol on drinks.