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Her_C4
31st July 2006, 17:18
I have been absolutely flabbergasted of late to hear of the number of motorcyclists that been subjected to various forms of road rage from cagers, and in chatting to a team member I heard last week of an incident that could have happened to anyone.:scooter:
As he was riding his bike (with an ‘L’ plate clearly attached!) home after work, he was in the process of merging with traffic on the Old Hutt Road and says that as he checked the traffic flow prior to pulling out into it, he heard a blast of a horn from the car behind him. He checked behind him to see the driver gesticulating rudely and he shrugged and turned his attention back to check the traffic to his right again – when the car behind him DROVE INTO THE BACK OF HIS BIKE!!!! :gob:
Yep you read it right – the driver shunted the biker forward and then wheel spun into the traffic. As he went forward to go past the bike, he was so close that there was a breath of wind between the car tyre and the riders foot. :angry:
After getting into the rush hour traffic and changing lanes to get two cars in front of the bike he then had to just sit there and (I assume in utter frustration), wait until the traffic started moving again. :nono: .... and watch the bike lane spit past him!!:nya:
What is with that? Unfortunately, in the heat of the moment, the last thing that the rider thought of was to get the number plate…
Now I know that this has been discussed in other threads, but if that sort of thing happens to me I want to be clear about what my options are.
So, apart from those listed below what are the options?
• Make a gesture (isn’t this compulsory?) and then….
• Call *555 to report the incident immediately (with the licence plate and vehicle make to the police), or
• Commit the licence plate and vehicle make, model and colour to memory, and submit a community road watch report (www.police.govt.nz,). I understand that this doesn’t do anything much apart from culprit being sent a letter??
What else?
McJim
31st July 2006, 17:27
1/ Take a note of their licence plate.
2/ Get their name and address from the post office
3/ Fill in a change of ownership form for their vehicle
4/ Call the cops and say you're car has been stolen and was last seen cutting up a motorbike on the _______ road.
Job done.
Seriously though unless you have witnesses who will also testify then it's your word against theirs. In the case of an actual physical contact they could be charged with fleeing the scene of an accident. It can make you feel better to make a gesture but that can often inflame the situation - they are in a ton and a half of metal (aren't they brave) and you are vulnerable to them having a 'moment' where they lose control. I recently nearly got hit from behind by someone in a burgundy holden who shouted something as he drove past - I had my L plate on and shouted back "What?" at which point he slams on the brakes, turns the car around and starts chasing me around Auckland - I wouldn't have minded so much but I'd only been riding for 2 days!
Just seems to be something in the kiwi psyche though - I met loads of New Zealanders when I worked in London and found them to be lovely, polite people (hence I decided to move here) but once behind a steering wheel many transform into homicidal maniacs...is there a reason for this?
Sparky Bills
31st July 2006, 17:30
Ride with no plate, have knee sliders, and scrape the shit out of the side of the car:nya:
Or have hard knuckled gloves, go up to the window and break the nose of the driver
both are fun, and will make you feel lots better.:innocent:
Lou Girardin
31st July 2006, 17:30
Wait till he's stuck in traffic then kick the shit out of him and/or his car.
I had some darling little toe rag throwing dirt and rocks at me out the window today. Passed said car, tooted and fingered, to get high beam and a number plate looking up my arse. They then proceeded to follow me around 3 blocks before giving up. Bastard
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=33241
Grahameeboy
31st July 2006, 17:42
Wait till he's stuck in traffic then kick the shit out of him and/or his car.
So what does that achieve Lou...............:wait:
Hitcher
31st July 2006, 17:45
What else?
Follow the prick home. That way you can get their address. It makes a few other good points as well...
mstriumph
31st July 2006, 17:45
loooong time ago in a galaxy faaaaar faaaaaar away - when i was young and foolhardy and carrying a dozen eggs home from the supermarket stuffed down the front of my [non-armoured] jacket i chased after a similar jerk and pelted his car windscreen and bodywork with eggs at every traffic light for a coupla miles ....... even managed to lob a couple thru his window when he wound it down to remonstrate with moi :blah: .....
yes - i KNOW that, technically, it was assault but it was sooooooooooo satisfying ......
........ and you COULD say he egged me on ......
Grahameeboy
31st July 2006, 17:45
Just seems to be something in the kiwi psyche though - I met loads of New Zealanders when I worked in London and found them to be lovely, polite people (hence I decided to move here) but once behind a steering wheel many transform into homicidal maniacs...is there a reason for this?
It is an odd one I agree........never worked it out.....never really bothered to work it out........guess we have to just deal with it as in the whole scheme of things things are not too bad.
Grahameeboy
31st July 2006, 17:47
loooong time ago in a galaxy faaaaar faaaaaar away - when i was young and foolhardy and carrying a dozen eggs home from the supermarket stuffed down the front of my [non-armoured] jacket i chased after a similar jerk and pelted his car windscreen and bodywork with eggs at every traffic light for a coupla miles ....... even managed to lob a couple thru his window when he wound it down to remonstrate with moi :blah: .....
yes - i KNOW that, technically, it was assault but it was sooooooooooo satisfying ......
........ and you COULD say he egged me on ......
So you were egged on then.................sorry!!
mstriumph
31st July 2006, 17:47
So what does that achieve Lou...............:wait:
............. stress/tension relief ......... have you any IDEA how DANGEROUS pent up anger is for you?? :nono: gotta stay healthy .......
mstriumph
31st July 2006, 17:49
So you were egged on then.................sorry!!
no problemo - the yolk was on him, anyway ........
Ozzie
31st July 2006, 17:52
Sort of thought about the retribution thing, a couple of times, even last Thursday a young bro tried to out staunch me in the middle of the lane, him on foot, me on the bike.
What a dick, did he think I'd come off second best?
So considered stretching my arm as i went past, then thought, when he eventually gets out of hospital, this little prick will see my bike on the side of the road some time (or someone elses) and kick it over as a payback. Endless spiral.
Same with cagers, sooner or later, they will spot you when you least expect it, then you are at risk all over again.
Get the plate, dial the magic number, tell the phuzz, and let them do nothing.
Grahameeboy
31st July 2006, 17:53
............. stress/tension relief ......... have you any IDEA how DANGEROUS pent up anger is for you?? :nono: gotta stay healthy .......
Mmmm no cause I am lucky and don't suffer from pent up anger......I just let the dicks get on with it...........your egg attack was funny but not for me............
mstriumph
31st July 2006, 17:53
Sort of thought about the retribution thing, a couple of times, even last Thursday a young bro tried to out staunch me in the middle of the lane, him on foot, me on the bike.
What a dick, did he think I'd come off second best?
So considered stretching my arm as i went past, then thought, when he eventually gets out of hospital, this little prick will see my bike on the side of the road some time (or someone elses) and kick it over as a payback. Endless spiral.
Same with cagers, sooner or later, they will spot you when you least expect it, then you are at risk all over again.
Get the plate, dial the magic number, tell the phuzz, and let them do nothing.
it don't work in the middle east, neither .. *sigh*
Grahameeboy
31st July 2006, 17:54
no problemo - the yolk was on him, anyway ........
He he.....that made me CRACK up.........
mstriumph
31st July 2006, 17:56
u were eggstatic? :blah:
Grahameeboy
31st July 2006, 17:59
u were eggstatic? :blah:
Okay.............you win............:yes:
RantyDave
31st July 2006, 18:14
Commit the licence plate and vehicle make, model and colour to memory, and submit a community road watch report (www.police.govt.nz,). I understand that this doesn’t do anything much apart from culprit being sent a letter??
No, nothing. Furthermore there is no way for the Pig^H^Holice to tell the difference between J.Fuckwit esquire taking exception to you being 5k over the speed limit, and a driveby shooting.
If I was *really* pissed at someone's driving - and that includes any physical contact whatsoever - I'd be in a police station reporting it, taking a name of whoever I had reported it to, then phoning them every second day to see what they've done about it. Nothing will be done, but at least the police will have to admit to doing nothing.
BTW, I've had one of these letters ... regarding my driving (of the cage, obviously) on the motorway at 8:30 on a Sunday morning, with my partner in the car and four year old daughter asleep in the back. Obviously I was going to be driving like a lunatic - hence my comment about J.Fuckwit esquire.
Dave
festus
31st July 2006, 18:23
Had a mate who overtook a boy racer on his brand new R1 in town, this little prick then followed him so close that me mate couldn't even see him in his rear view mirror, when he got to an intersection, the clown in the car ran up his arse, $7000 later he just got his bike back!...........
Biohazard
31st July 2006, 18:28
Ride with no plate, have knee sliders, and scrape the shit out of the side of the car:nya:
Or have hard knuckled gloves, go up to the window and break the nose of the driver
both are fun, and will make you feel lots better.:innocent:
Im with sparky except i'd use titanium toe sliders (roughed up ofcourse).
Then kick the f*ck out of them.....kevlar gloves are great and dont forget ya helmet, that hurts too...
crashe
31st July 2006, 18:38
Easy....... get their rego number, make and type of vehicle...
also what the driver looked like.. (This is most important information)
Go to the copshop ASAP and spend time filling in forms..... and get them charged with FAILING to STOP at the scene of a accident.
The same thing what happened to you happened to me. The police didnt charge her with road rage but "failure to stop at the scene of a accident" and the lady got taken to court and she pleaded GUILTY.
cost $375 in fines to her.
Then the police sent me a letter with her details should I want to get money back from her for repairs to my bike etc.
You were hit from behind...... the driver took off... that is failing to stop at a accident.
bell
31st July 2006, 18:55
I, too have had some "results" from filling out these traffic complaint forms every now and then. God, it's good to see the letter back from the police letting you know that the fine they've just received has made it all worth it!
Clivoris
31st July 2006, 18:56
I feel conflicted about this. I have to agree with the sensible suggestions above, including the reality that the police can't often do much. I also have to admit to enjoying the rush of justified violence, even with the multiple and unpredictable risks involved. My most recent strategy involves imagining the perpretrator of the stupidity living a futile and frustrated life riddled with repeated karmic paybacks culminating in a lonely death involving a disease that melts their internal organs. Simple things......
Fatjim
31st July 2006, 19:13
I wouldn't bother with the cop thing, been there, done that with not much success due to a shite for brains judge.
Not sure I would bother with the kicking the shit out of the car thing, depends how close he got to killing me. Although I keep saying I must get some of the titatium gloves.
I kinda feel the best thing is to follow them home then brew up their rewards at my own time. Scratching "Don't fuck with motorcyclists" down the car might do the trick.
Fatjim
31st July 2006, 19:15
My most recent strategy involves imagining the perpretrator of the stupidity living a futile and frustrated life riddled with repeated karmic paybacks culminating in a lonely death involving a disease that melts their internal organs. Simple things......
Figures, you ride a Tuono.
Clivoris
31st July 2006, 19:31
Figures, you ride a Tuono.
It does make a certain sense doesn't it.:yes:
terbang
31st July 2006, 19:47
Had some dick stop me on the motorway at Puhinui road in heavy traffic. He was obviously in a heated state, while waving his fist and pointing. He pulled over cutting me off and forcing me to stop. He rapidly got out of his car and came around towards me. With the appearance of an attack I naturally jumped off my bike to face him. Perhaps because he was presented with a guy dressed in armoured gear and a helmet or perhaps others honking their horns, he changed his mind and climbed back into his car shouting some sort of abuse and drove off while fumbling with a cell phone. I suspect he was dialling *555 to complain about bad bike behaviour. I still don't know what I had done to piss him off so much.. Other cage drivers were waving to me and making thumbs up signs in my support.
Jantar
31st July 2006, 20:25
You were hit from behind...... the driver took off... that is failing to stop at a accident.
No, it wasn't an accident. It was done on purpose, and that is attempted murder. Report it as such, not as an accident.
Squeak the Rat
31st July 2006, 20:36
Only phone *555 if you do not want the driver prosecuted. If you actually want the cops to do something then do as crashe et al says and go to the cop shop and fill in forms, or get on the blower to 111 and say "someone just tried to kill me".
*555's purpose is specifically NOT for having legal action taken against the other driver.
APPLE
31st July 2006, 20:59
hav'nt really cum across road rage,whilst riding.but not to say that it could'nt happen aye?
DMNTD
31st July 2006, 21:05
...have to admit to enjoying the rush of justified violence.....
Damn I like that,awesome! Can I use it?
Personally if the other party has done something bad enough I hog in...to an extent. If someone is going to nearly kill me and then show a bad attitude I believe they are fair game.
Sure ok people do make mistakes and if some remorse is shown I tend to express my displeasure with sign language and remove myself promptly before becoming a Heke.
It's their choice in my eyes...it's dangerous enough riding a bike without having arrogant twats helping to up the statistics.
Whether I'm "right" or "wrong" I shall continue as I have.
Filterer
31st July 2006, 21:06
Simple solution...ditch the L plates - problem all but dissapears!
Ghost Lemur
31st July 2006, 21:31
I got to agree with the sensible posts here.
Why we all may had the desire to retaliate at times, think about this.
What about the innocent cagers who are sitting there in traffic, didn't see the incident. But what they do see is a biker come swimming past and proceed to kick in a cars door (or take off a mirror, or smash a window).
What are those cagers opinions going to be about us? What are they going to tell their cager friends? How is this going to have anything other than a negative effect.
There is no such thing as justified violence. I garantee that neanderthal who did the rearending had what he thought was justification for doing it.
At the end of the day, we have to be bigger men (and women) than them as we've got more to lose. Not just in the fact we're more vunerable on the road. But also because we (as riders) are a subculture. And like with the so called boyracers, if we find ourselves on the wrong side of public opinion, and in the spotlight, ain't no one but us going to cry over the politians and the beaurocrats coming down on us.
Skyryder
31st July 2006, 21:34
Bottom line is that the driver is caged you're not. Some self discapline in these situations can be a life saver. If you are rammed from behind there is, as other posters point out, the failure to stop after an accident thing. I understand that there is also a charge of useing a vehicle as a dangerouse weapon. Any police on here know about this and when can it be used.
Skyryder
Clivoris
31st July 2006, 21:41
Damn I like that,awesome! Can I use it?
Personally if the other party has done something bad enough I hog in...to an extent. If someone is going to nearly kill me and then show a bad attitude I believe they are fair game.
Sure ok people do make mistakes and if some remorse is shown I tend to express my displeasure with sign language and remove myself promptly before becoming a Heke.
It's their choice in my eyes...it's dangerous enough riding a bike without having arrogant twats helping to up the statistics.
Whether I'm "right" or "wrong" I shall continue as I have.
Use away bro. There is definitely an elegant logic to delivering karma by fastpost, and being willing to reap the karmic return. I've been lucky so far. :rockon:
saltydog
31st July 2006, 21:44
Egg-celent indeed. A mirrored visor is a must, combined with the 'streetfighter' type side leg kick (only pretending of course) seems to have an amazing effect on the cagers as they see your boot flying at their window!
The middle east needs more than a cease-fire....
oldrider
31st July 2006, 21:45
no problemo - the yolk was on him, anyway ........
I would risk getting egg on my face just to say hello to a pretty girl too. :blip: We all have our methods. :yes: John.
PS: when I go up North again that gun shop will be my first port of call, I want one of those hand guns to fend off the cage ragers, seemed to work well for the shop keeper!
Street Gerbil
31st July 2006, 21:45
Does "attempted assault with a deadly weapon" fly around here? In USA it was all the rage.
Steam
31st July 2006, 22:10
I'm a bit of a psycho, so I don't know what's going to happen when I get my first nutter up my ass.
I've had a few road-rage incedents before, (where I was the roar-rager) on my BICYCLE of all the fucking stupid things, in which I pursued a car and smashed the window when I caught up at the lights, and then they took off because there were 4 guys in the car, and I guess they thought I was just insane for attacking their car, and so didn't want to go up against me. LUCKY, cos they woulda flattened me.
I got to do something about this anger problem. It only comes out when driving or riding. It's a different world when there's an engine involved.
Shadows
31st July 2006, 22:37
Only phone *555 if you do not want the driver prosecuted. If you actually want the cops to do something then do as crashe et al says and go to the cop shop and fill in forms, or get on the blower to 111 and say "someone just tried to kill me".
*555's purpose is specifically NOT for having legal action taken against the other driver.
I disagree, I got some guy in a wanked up new Commodore nailed for running a couple of adventure bikes off the road into the gravel on the side of the road at Paekak.
I called *555 and chased the guy in my cage to 185 along the Mad Mile. When I caught up to him, I told the operator I was matching his speed at 165 and passed on the rego before I was told to back off. They were waiting for us at Paraparamu. I didn't even get a talking to for the speed I had just admitted travelling at, before I chased him I had told the operator that I would have to go pretty fast to catch him, they just said go ahead if I could do it, because they needed his rego.
When the guys on the bikes finally caught up they pulled over as well and had to "be restrained". They calmed down eventually and were sent on their way after a little talking to.
Any way, the wanker was booked for 80k in a 50k zone (that was what the cops saw) and reckless driving re running the bikes off the road, so *555 does work.
Clivoris
31st July 2006, 22:56
Good outcome guy. You haven't got mounty genes by any chance?
ZeroIndex
1st August 2006, 00:32
Ride with no plate, have knee sliders, and scrape the shit out of the side of the car:nya:
Or have hard knuckled gloves, go up to the window and break the nose of the driver
both are fun, and will make you feel lots better.:innocent:
make sure it's the Ceramic racing knee sliders, and Quasi's old-stock metal-knuckled-gloves.. those look crazy..
ZeroIndex
1st August 2006, 00:34
Wait till he's stuck in traffic then kick the shit out of him and/or his car.
So what does that achieve Lou...............:wait:
if you'd have watched My Name Is Earl, you would realise that Karma doesn't have feet or hands, and sometimes, Karma uses your feet or hands to make a point/example :D
ZeroIndex
1st August 2006, 00:39
Simple solution...ditch the L plates - problem all but dissapears!
completely agreed..
ZeroIndex
1st August 2006, 00:41
I would risk getting egg on my face just to say hello to a pretty girl too. :blip: We all have our methods. :yes: John.
PS: when I go up North again that gun shop will be my first port of call, I want one of those hand guns to fend off the cage ragers, seemed to work well for the shop keeper!
what you really want is a big shotgun, that all the cagers behind and to the side can see, therefore they will be a LOT more patient :)
inlinefour
1st August 2006, 03:23
P is a bad thing, stay away from it...:nono:
Edbear
1st August 2006, 06:47
P is a bad thing, stay away from it...:nono:
Quite agree! But what are you doin' up at 3:23am! Me, if'n I don't get my beauty sleep, I wakes up very ugly in da mornin'!:blah:
inlinefour
1st August 2006, 06:49
Quite agree! But what are you doin' up at 3:23am! Me, if'n I don't get my beauty sleep, I wakes up very ugly in da mornin'!:blah:
Im a registered nurse doing night shift in a psychiatric ward, I shit you not...
98tls
1st August 2006, 06:54
Im a registered nurse doing night shift in a psychiatric ward, I shit you not... does that get a bit creepy sometimes inline?
ZeroIndex
1st August 2006, 07:01
Im a registered nurse doing night shift in a psychiatric ward, I shit you not...
suddenly the baby from Meet The Fockers doing those actions about making fun of Ben Stiller being a nurse are floating around in my head :D but don't worry, I'm not making fun of male nurses, just pointing out that Ben Stiller is an uppety n00b.. <-- see Extras episode 1 for proof..
..just like Mad Mel (Gibson), who got done badly for drunk driving, and anti-semetism <-- on the news last night..
*Anti-Semetism: A hate for jews <-- just like Cartman..
hsvboy06
1st August 2006, 07:45
...so *555 does work.
Definitely - I've used it twice and both times watched the cops get the perp. (long stories, not relevant).
Squeak the Rat
1st August 2006, 08:00
I disagree, I got some guy in a wanked up new Commodore nailed for running a couple of adventure bikes off the road into the gravel on the side of the road at Paekak.
I called *555 and chased the guy in my cage to 185 along the Mad Mile. When I caught up to him, I told the operator I was matching his speed at 165 and passed on the rego before I was told to back off. They were waiting for us at Paraparamu. I didn't even get a talking to for the speed I had just admitted travelling at, before I chased him I had told the operator that I would have to go pretty fast to catch him, they just said go ahead if I could do it, because they needed his rego.
Sometimes it does work - if they have the resources. I'm glad it did in this instance and that you got to go fast :) However, there have been instances reported on this site where people have been told to hang up and phone 111.
From the police website:
Calling *555
*555 should be used to report general traffic incidents via mobile phone. It is not an emergency number. In the event of a serious, time critical traffic emergency, dial 111.
When not to call 111
Don't call 111 for non-urgent situations. It's not an emergency when the situation is not dangerous and immediate action isn't necessary, such as when there is no risk to life or property or an offender has left and is unlikely to return
So, try *555 if you like and it may work (probably most of the time). But if it's a genuine emergency do 111. I guess some things are a bit blurry inbetween....
Lou Girardin
1st August 2006, 08:15
So what does that achieve Lou...............:wait:
Satisfaction that justice is done. Of course you could ask for God's forgivness for him. That'll help the next biker he takes exception to.
Lou Girardin
1st August 2006, 08:17
The police didnt charge her with road rage
Possibly because there is no such charge.
Squeak the Rat
1st August 2006, 08:32
Quite agree! But what are you doin' up at 3:23am! Me, if'n I don't get my beauty sleep, I wakes up very ugly in da mornin'!:blah:
Man you need some more sleep! :rofl: (just joking)
scumdog
1st August 2006, 09:01
Bottom line is that the driver is caged you're not. Some self discapline in these situations can be a life saver. If you are rammed from behind there is, as other posters point out, the failure to stop after an accident thing. I understand that there is also a charge of useing a vehicle as a dangerouse weapon. Any police on here know about this and when can it be used.
Skyryder
Yep, people HAVE been charged and convicted of using a car as a 'weapon' in an assault when they have deliberately ran at/run into a person.
McJim
1st August 2006, 09:18
So, try *555 if you like and it may work (probably most of the time). But if it's a genuine emergency do 111. I guess some things are a bit blurry inbetween....
Wish I'd known some of this when I got knocked off my bike. Not that it was malicious but I didn't want to call 111 coz that's for emergencies and I didn't think I was dying. Didn't know about *555. I went to report the accident to the local police station the following day (splint and all) and they said they didn't have time/wouldn't take the details and it was for the insurance company to sort out. Now I may not get paid by the insurance company coz there's no Police report! I'm looking forward to a situation where I can use *555.
bell
1st August 2006, 10:11
Go back into the station and ask them for a traffic incident complaint form. There's also the online version found via the police.govt.nz website (posted somewhere else in this thread?) Will be tricky without their registration tho.
crashe
1st August 2006, 10:35
Wish I'd known some of this when I got knocked off my bike. Not that it was malicious but I didn't want to call 111 coz that's for emergencies and I didn't think I was dying. Didn't know about *555. I went to report the accident to the local police station the following day (splint and all) and they said they didn't have time/wouldn't take the details and it was for the insurance company to sort out. Now I may not get paid by the insurance company coz there's no Police report! I'm looking forward to a situation where I can use *555.
With my road rage/failing to stop at the scene of a accident incident, where the lady rammed the back of my bike... I rung 111 and they asked me to go to my local copshop..... I went to Henderson copshop and filled in all the forms...
Dont let the receptionst behind the counter tell you they DONT HAVE time...
That is their job to give you all the neccessary forms to fill in.
Cos once you have filled in all the forms them ask them to photocopy it off for you... so you also have a copy in your hands should it go to court and plus you can get your insurance company to photocopy that form off as well.
McJim
1st August 2006, 11:07
Go back into the station and ask them for a traffic incident complaint form. There's also the online version found via the police.govt.nz website (posted somewhere else in this thread?) Will be tricky without their registration tho.
Aha - But I HAVE got their Registration, name, address, email address, phone number AND the number of a witness. Only tricky thing is incident was 24th May - I was trying to comply with the whole 24hrs rule at the time. Surely they'll chase me out the door for going in 2 months too late?
bell
1st August 2006, 11:13
Ooops, should've re-read your earlier post! Always worth a try. I usually ask for traffic branch 1st up, let's the public servant on the counter know that you're serious. Hope you have some luck.
Ixion
1st August 2006, 11:22
Aha - But I HAVE got their Registration, name, address, email address, phone number AND the number of a witness. Only tricky thing is incident was 24th May - I was trying to comply with the whole 24hrs rule at the time. Surely they'll chase me out the door for going in 2 months too late?
Well, the cops were WAY out of line refusing to accept information of an injury accident, when you attempted to report it as required by law.
So go in explain you tried with 24 hours and got told to piss off. And now you want to report it AGAIN. If you get any aggro start mentioning Police Complaints Authority.
McJim
1st August 2006, 11:48
Well, the cops were WAY out of line refusing to accept information of an injury accident, when you attempted to report it as required by law.
So go in explain you tried with 24 hours and got told to piss off. And now you want to report it AGAIN. If you get any aggro start mentioning Police Complaints Authority.
Yeah, I was kinda out of my titties on prescribed painkillers at the time and couldn't be arsed arguing - just thought - they're kiwis, they work for the police - they know the law here better than I do. Next time will be more beligerent.
Getting back on to the topic though - while name and address is readily available for any joe off the steet with a note of your registration plate it's probably best to try to get out of the way - some people can hold a grudge and will get you any way they can - often a long time after the incident (I know I do - I never get someone back when they are expecting it - it lacks real effect!)
SPman
1st August 2006, 13:44
There is no such thing as justified violence.
...how about unjustified violence then............?
Bend-it
1st August 2006, 13:50
[EDIT: Wrong Thread...]Actually the video was really funny!!! Hero to zero in 3 secs eh? heh heh heh...
There is no such thing as justified violence.
Of course there is!! If you run a gun shop and someone attacks you with a machete, justified violence is to shoot the dick! And if someone breaks into your home and attempts to rape your wife you're be fully justified in kicking his head in.
It's only PC police in the labour party who live in balls of cotten wool that spout nonsense like "there's no such thing as justified violence". Would you like to be living under the Nazis? Or Socialist USSR? or any other dictatorship that's trie to take over the world, but was repulsed by justified violence?
Ozzie
1st August 2006, 14:03
Have I missed something???? Which video?
ZeroIndex
1st August 2006, 14:04
Actually the video was really funny!!! Hero to zero in 3 secs eh? heh heh heh...
which video?
Bend-it
1st August 2006, 14:08
Yeah, sorry, wrong thread... Updated with my 2 cents to this forum anyway... ;)
ZeroIndex
1st August 2006, 14:19
Yeah, sorry, wrong thread... Updated with my 2 cents to this forum anyway... ;)
haha, lol, I bet you were trying to post in the "See It From A Car" thread?
Deano
1st August 2006, 14:23
Ride with no plate, have knee sliders, and scrape the shit out of the side of the car:nya:
Or have hard knuckled gloves, go up to the window and break the nose of the driver
both are fun, and will make you feel lots better.:innocent:
Im with sparky except i'd use titanium toe sliders (roughed up ofcourse).
Then kick the f*ck out of them.....kevlar gloves are great and dont forget ya helmet, that hurts too...
And they say you meet the nicest people on a Honda :shutup: :innocent:
Bend-it
1st August 2006, 14:32
haha, lol, I bet you were trying to post in the "See It From A Car" thread?
Yeah... heh heh heh... that was pretty good... it's gonna go into my "funny videos" repository...
Macktheknife
1st August 2006, 14:57
There is no such thing as justified violence.
Don't be ridiculous, of course there is! If someone tries to hit my wife or family, I am justified in using violence to protect them. If someone tries to kill me or do me serious injury on my bike, I am justified in defending myself vigourously.
I am not condoning violent behaviour for the hell of it, but if it is defence of life and property, go for it and make a good job of it.
Ozzie
1st August 2006, 15:03
Depends how close, how fast, and how scared.
Oh, and if I manage to find some really hard armoured gloves.
The_Dover
1st August 2006, 15:07
And they say you meet the nicest people on a Honda :shutup: :innocent:
No no, it's "you meet the GAYEST people on a Honda."
McJim
1st August 2006, 15:31
I hate violence....and all other orchestral stringed instruments too...never saw a justified 'cello though......:nya:
Deano
1st August 2006, 15:53
No no, it's "you meet the GAYEST people on a Honda."
I'd believe your arse was cheap, but I bet it ain't tight. :nya:
The_Dover
1st August 2006, 16:08
I'd believe your arse was cheap, but I bet it ain't tight. :nya:
Well, what would be to needle dicked honda riders? A stoma?
Deano
1st August 2006, 16:20
Well, what would be to needle dicked honda riders? A stoma?
Better a small dick but know how to use it than the king of bikes but can't ride it.
The_Dover
1st August 2006, 16:24
Is it really that hard to operate a penis?
Calo
1st August 2006, 16:37
Sort of thought about the retribution thing, a couple of times, even last Thursday a young bro tried to out staunch me in the middle of the lane, him on foot, me on the bike.
I hate the way those little pricks do that. Especially when I'm trying to change into the lane they're friggin' standing in, to get around a corner. I usually hurl abuse at them on the way past. :motu:
S&S
1st August 2006, 16:38
Road rage sucks.... Especially when your on a bike. No point getting in a argument with a 2 ton vehicle, we ain't going to win the fight.
I have only every punched a car once, but that was to save my own bacon. Once I was riding up the North Western Motorway in the fast lane cruising at 100km, not many cars about except for a blue 4 door sedan being driven by a asian lady in the middle lane next to me. For no reason at all she indicates into my lane & starts to pull over towards me & forcing me into the middle barrier at 100? I rev the shit out of my bike to make her hear me.. nothing, & my bike isn't quiet! She keeps moving over, I have run out of room to pass her or drop back, so I ride the clutch & take my right hand of the throttle & proceeded to give her drivers window a full on punch to wake her up. That soon got here attention, problem is she wobbled so badly she almost collected me in the process. What do ya do?
Bend-it
1st August 2006, 16:48
Accelerate ahead or brake to hang back and then harrass said cager... Souldn't have a problem with that on a TL...
I've done plenty on my 250 bandit! Not the harrassing bit though, I'm a good boy... ;)
Bend-it
1st August 2006, 16:49
Woo hoo!!! 200 posts!! I have no life! or work!
inlinefour
1st August 2006, 16:50
suddenly the baby from Meet The Fockers doing those actions about making fun of Ben Stiller being a nurse are floating around in my head :D but don't worry, I'm not making fun of male nurses, just pointing out that Ben Stiller is an uppety n00b.. <-- see Extras episode 1 for proof..
..just like Mad Mel (Gibson), who got done badly for drunk driving, and anti-semetism <-- on the news last night..
*Anti-Semetism: A hate for jews <-- just like Cartman..
I have no idea what it is your on about, but it sounds like a load of bollocks. I'm the one who upsets the apple cart by not appreciating political correctness, gays and complete safety. Many of my workmates used to give me shit about riding motorsickles, until I advised them they must be mistaking me for someone who gives a toss. That worked perfectly... :nya:
does that get a bit creepy sometimes inline?
Nah working with the mentally unwell I can do quite easily. I just sometimes struggle working with a big bunch of shelias and the b/s that often is associated or the clucking b/s that comes out of their mouth when they are together. Often talking to psychotic people just is the better option eh.
Skyryder
1st August 2006, 18:28
Yep, people HAVE been charged and convicted of using a car as a 'weapon' in an assault when they have deliberately ran at/run into a person.
A person as in pedestrian?? How would that go with someone on a bike?? or does that not count.
Skyryder
Her_C4
1st August 2006, 18:49
There are some pretty 'out there' responses peoples!!!! :yes: :yes: :rockon:
AWEsome. Some good - some bloody funny - and some downright confusing :doobey:
Appreciate the feedback (all of it!) and have some food for thought. Agree with the comments about the 'L' plate though. It does seem to incite some drivers to a senseless rage.... :angry:
2much
1st August 2006, 19:01
Worst incident I've had was earlier this year. Was heading north just past Piopio when a car coming the opposite direction and towing a trailer started to drift into my lane.
No worries I thought, I'll just move left and give him some space. Figured he must have been going too fast and the trailer had caused him to swerve over the white line or something. But he didn't swerve, instead he kept coming across towards me and I ended up having to serve to the far left of my lane to avoid him.
I pulled over on the side of the road to catch my breath and gather my thoughts. I was fuming, this fucking wanker had just played with my life. What if it had been a learner like my missus who was following on my 250? I thought about ringing the cops but those cunts wouldn't do shit, especially when I didn't have a plate. And there was no way I was letting this fucker get away with it so he could do it again to another biker.
So I told my missus to go find somewhere safe to wait for me, turned around, and took off in pursuit. I caught up with them on the passing lane south of Piopio, It was 2 old guys and a chick (50-60ish). The drivers window was down so I lifted my visor, leaned in his window, and ask what the fuck he thought he was doing. The cunt just looked around and smiled at me! Now i was furious, I told him that if he thought it was so funny perhaps he should pull over so we could discuss it (i swear, if they had've pulled over I would've knocked him the fuck out). After saying this a few times I could see they had no intention of doing that.
Just as i was about to put my boot into the driver's door I remembered the (wider than the car) trailer behind me and had a nasty vision of me losing my balance and going under it. So I decided against that idea and dropped back to think about it. As I drew next to the boot of the car I spotted the aerial. Nice. I grabbed it and was surprised how easily it came off in my hand. That felt better so I pulled up next to the driver, leaned in, flicked him the bird, and told him what I thought one more time. Hopefully he'll think twice before playing dodgems with motorcyclists next time.
Wait till some fucktard thinks it's funny to play with your life, then tell me you'ld take the "sensible option".
And I hope they went away with an "opinion of bikers" after that. it could save some rider's life.
Lou Girardin
2nd August 2006, 08:41
Is it really that hard to operate a penis?
Mines an auto. Don't even have to think about it.
Deano
2nd August 2006, 09:00
Is it really that hard to operate a penis?
According to your exs'...yes.
Bend-it
2nd August 2006, 09:23
Worst incident I've had was earlier this year. Was heading north just past Piopio when a car coming the opposite direction and towing a trailer started to drift into my lane. .... blah blah...
And you still didn't get his rego?? All you need is the make, model and colour and rego of the car, then $2.25 atthe post office and you have his address... What fun you could have then! :doobey:
"D" FZ1
2nd August 2006, 09:32
At the very least kick his mirror off as you ride past, leaving him stuck in the traffic. Hopefully they might think twice before doing something so stupid again :tugger:
The_Dover
2nd August 2006, 09:49
According to your exs'...yes.
Ha ha, does your missus know you've been paying for it from my ex?
Deano
2nd August 2006, 09:52
Ha ha, does your missus know you've been paying for it from my ex?
Whoops...sssshhh:innocent:
2much
2nd August 2006, 17:45
And you still didn't get his rego?? All you need is the make, model and colour and rego of the car, then $2.25 atthe post office and you have his address... What fun you could have then! :doobey:
I know the make, model and colour. As for the plate, kinda had other things on my mind when he was coming toward me. And could see the rear plate due to the trailer.
But yes you're right, it would be fun.
APPLE
4th August 2006, 18:12
Is it really that hard to operate a penis?
it is if yours is only 3inches long???the agony
NUTBAR
4th August 2006, 18:36
I had a dick head cut me off going up a passing lane heading out of taupo (north). i thought wats this clown up to, he slowed right down (80kph) & wouldnt let me pass (was swerving in front of me) i passed him & he sped up to sit right on my ass, i thought what an idiot, so i thought get a tast of this ashole & opend my bike up. i would loved to have seen the look on his face as i left him in the distance. We have faster pick up than a car & can manuver easer, i prefer to just blow them away
Shadows
5th August 2006, 22:32
And you still didn't get his rego?? All you need is the make, model and colour and rego of the car, then $2.25 atthe post office and you have his address... What fun you could have then! :doobey:
Just remember that in the same vein, you can also contact the LTSA and get the details of everybody who has been provided with your details.
So you may not be as anonymous as you think.
9cents
6th August 2006, 22:06
So give the post office incorrect personal details?
jtzzr
6th August 2006, 22:32
I had a dick head cut me off going up a passing lane heading out of taupo (north). i thought wats this clown up to, he slowed right down (80kph) & wouldnt let me pass (was swerving in front of me) i passed him & he sped up to sit right on my ass, i thought what an idiot, so i thought get a tast of this ashole & opend my bike up. i would loved to have seen the look on his face as i left him in the distance. We have faster pick up than a car & can manuver easer, i prefer to just blow them away
But I like to give them a salute before taking off , had one chase me up to 160k , gave it a twist and he was a dot in the mirror(wanker).
Bend-it
7th August 2006, 17:22
http://www.legendaryusa.com/Daytona_Gear_GB_Motorcycle_Tank_Bag_w_Gun_Holster_ p/dggb.htm
:2guns:
Her_C4
7th August 2006, 17:27
http://www.legendaryusa.com/Daytona_Gear_GB_Motorcycle_Tank_Bag_w_Gun_Holster_ p/dggb.htm
:2guns:
Geeze!!! That's a little drastic isn't it? Mind you, it would make lane splitting in rush hour traffic a breeze :scooter: :doobey:
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