Cage Lights on or off

[McJim]

Just finished reading the thread about bikes - light on/off so have posted this in a similar place...coz I'm still a newbie really despite my vast ability to spout bullshit.

Talking about lights how come so many cars drive around with their fog lights on (yellow ones on mid nineties jap imports) when there's no effing fog (as opposed to no F in fog coz I know there is!). Then this morning with all the pea soup the daft buggers have switched their fog lights off in favour of full beam, FULL BEAM IN FOG?!?! WTF?

And what's with all the buggers driving around Auckland at night with full beam on and fog lights. Is it just me that notices this or does it bother others too?

I realise I'm preaching to the converted here but would enjoy some witty comments on the subject.

[frogfeaturesFZR]

Mate I drive my 4 x 4 with the spots on in the daytime for the same reason I ride with my lights on. And still the buggers pull out in front of me....

[Karma]

Worst one is boy racers driving around with either dipped or NO lights on whatsoever...

Really easy to see your black subaru piece of shit when it's got no lights on at midnight you moron.

[frogfeaturesFZR]

Yeah but when they drive faster than the speed of light no-ones going to see them anyway ! One day they'll grow up, if they live long enough.

[yungatart]

I really hate it when you get those people in their 4x4's who drive behind you with their lights on. I realise that they probably are dipped but because they are so much higher than your average family sedan, their lights blind you. It doesn't seem to matter how you adjust your own mirrors to try and deflect their headlights, nothing works. I hate it, usually slow down and let them get in front of me. Bloody remuera tractors!

[frogfeaturesFZR]

I dipped mine more than the usual for just that reason.

[Squeak the Rat]

I don't care about the lights in my car. I have airbags........

[McJim]

So is there no law in this country against having full beam on in a street lit area?

[Maverick]

I have a lantis at the moment and it has projector headlights and foglights, but when its dark or low vis I normally use the fog lights as well for the reason that the projector headlights on the lantis are about the size of a 50C piece (old one) and while they throw a lot of light on the road, make it hard to see the car (especially being black) in low vis, so having the bumper mounted fog lights on is much safer

[Maverick]

For the record though I only ever use Highbeam on deserted country roads, or to flash someone being an idiot :rockon:

[chickenfunkstar]

And what's with all the buggers driving around Auckland at night with full beam on and fog lights. Is it just me that notices this or does it bother others too?



My car can't do this, once you turn on full beam fog lights turn off.

I reckon you can see better with full beam in fog anyway. Trade off between not being able to see as far / not much reflection back and being able to see further but more reflection from the fog.

[WRT]

Its the people who drive around with their rear fog lights on that are the menace. For one, its a distraction to the vehicles behind, and its also going to make life that much harder for those people that drive to others brake lights. Mind you, they deserve to crash for driving like that anyway, but regardless there are a lot of people that do it, and I'd rather not have them crashing while around me.

[Quartida]

I really hate it when you get those people in their 4x4's who drive behind you with their lights on. I realise that they probably are dipped but because they are so much higher than your average family sedan, their lights blind you. It doesn't seem to matter how you adjust your own mirrors to try and deflect their headlights, nothing works. I hate it, usually slow down and let them get in front of me. Bloody remuera tractors!


Like those frikkin' halogens! ARGH!

I think full beam is OK in fog, it's just high beam that's a problem. I don't think I even have fog lights on my cage.

[McJim]

Yeah - it's all very well being able to see these cars at night with all the street lights on - it's the not being able to see road signs, pot holes, roads etc. coz the fuggers have cauterized your retina and you're blind for the next 20 minutes!

[terbang]

What amuses me is in the Dawn or Dusk times of the day (poor light) you see people with only their park lights on. WTF, if you want to be seen than just put your normal lights on, its not like they are gonna be saving electricity or something by having only parkers on. I guess its all in a name though eh..PARK lights.

[tl_tub]

Like those frikkin' halogens! ARGH!

I think full beam is OK in fog, it's just high beam that's a problem. I don't think I even have fog lights on my cage.

I could be wrong, but i suspect more than 90% of head lights are halogen

[Shadows]

Apparently it isn't strictly legal to have both yellow fog lights and main beam on at the same time. Does anybody know if that is true?

One thing that I've never understood has been the definition of the "legal hours of darkness" during which you must have your headlamps on.
Half an hour AFTER sunset until half an hour BEFORE sunrise.
What where the fucktards thinking? When I first read it I thought it must have been a typo and they had the "before" and "after" around the wrong way.
Daybreak and dusk are bad enough times for visibility, with all the sunstrike and glare around, without having the additional complications surrounding the visibility of traffic with and without lights on.
A lot of the apparent "gaps" in the traffic at those times actually contain cars you may not be able to see until its too late, because they are almost indistinguishable from the background in a line of other traffic with headlamps glaring.

[avgas]

AUTO lights in the holden....its easier

[Swoop]

Kiwi drivers mate. Can't shoot them, can't herd them off to Africa.......:shutup:

[Quartida]

I could be wrong, but i suspect more than 90% of head lights are halogen

Oh...I meant those ones that are funny colours at different angles, and are particularly bright at some particular angles. I thought they were halogens....what am I thinking of?

[Shadows]

Oh...I meant those ones that are funny colours at different angles, and are particularly bright at some particular angles. I thought they were halogens....what am I thinking of?

They'll be the xenon filled ones. Most new Eurotrash cars have them. I bunged one in my bike to make my headlight light stand out from other traffic a bit because it kind of flashes with fork movement and is a kind of bluey colour instead of yellow. Apparently they aren't too good for plastic lenses though.

[sunhuntin]

Yeah - it's all very well being able to see these cars at night with all the street lights on - it's the not being able to see road signs, pot holes, roads etc. coz the fuggers have cauterized your retina and you're blind for the next 20 minutes!

agreed there. also hate the ones with 2 pairs of head lights [or more!] just nuts. no need for that much light...if i can do fine with just the one, then why do you need that many more. [aimed at the big 4x4 vehicles, pos that they are!]

[raster]

You should only have 2 forward facing white lights at low beam.

I can remember when I had my mini with separate little round parkers below the headlights, the warrent testing guy wanted me to make them turn off when the headlights came on, I told him to bugger off as they are wired into the taillight circuit, after lots of grumbling I got my warrent.

In my cortina GTE I had to rewire the factory spots so they would turn off with the high beam. (fair enough) 480Watts with headlights and spots. Had to put an alternator in it as after 20 mins on the generator the battery was flat.

I hate these buggers who drive around with 4 headlights, I drive with lights on during the day in cage or bike, I'm sure it makes a difference but it's alway one or the other, headlights on, fogs off.

The WRX's I think are the worst, those so call "foglights" are huge and blinding. Spot lights no matter what the wattage is are not designed for oncomming traffic.

[Motu]

I have 4 headlamps on both full and low beam,and drive like that all the time - this is to counter those wankers on motorcycles who use high beam all the time....if they can justify being illeagal then so can I.

[raster]

I have 4 headlamps on both full and low beam,and drive like that all the time - this is to counter those wankers on motorcycles who use high beam all the time....if they can justify being illeagal then so can I.


High beam on the bike??????, wheres that switch ..... (gone off to look for it.)

[98tls]

I have 4 headlamps on both full and low beam,and drive like that all the time - this is to counter those wankers on motorcycles who use high beam all the time....if they can justify being illeagal then so can I. So you piss the rest of us off because you have no understanding of mathematics......