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StoneChucker
11th August 2006, 00:23
This will be obvious to some here, but maybe a few folk will find it useful...
It is true what they say, once you go broadband - you never go back (mostly anyway...) I'm on the ihug broadband, and was very happy with my full speed plan (they all are full speed at ihug). I was downloading files at up to 310 kb/s actual speed, that's about 1 MB every 3.3 seconds, what would take between 4 to 6 minutes on dial-up.

What ISP's don't tell you, is that your upload speed also affects your download speed. Only the top 2 plans at ihug have the "full speed" upload rate. I was on Broadband Lite at $59.99 (3584k download, 128k upload, the 3584 doesn't mean that amout per sec, it's a theoretical value). Upgrading to one of the more expensive top 2 plans increases your upload speed from 128k to 512k. Whether you are on the top, or second from top plan, there is absolutely no difference in any speed whatsoever, the top plan gives you a slightly bigger data alowance. Now that I'm on Broadband Power (3584k download, 512k upload), my download speed has shot up from at the most 310kb/s, to 425kb/s true d/l speed, that's 1 MB every 2.4 seconds!!!

The reason for that is, all information or data, is sent over the internet using a protocol called TCP/IP (Transmission Control Protocol / Internet Protocol). From dusting out the cobwebs, I know (and it's on ihug's site somewhere deep in the info pages) that all information sent over the internet is done so by sending what they call "packets" of information. Your computer receives this information in the form of packets, after requesting those said packets (of whatever you were downloading, music, etc...). That is the first point of your pc SENDING data to request the data. Then, while the remote computer is sending the data (packets), after every few packets your pc SENDS a confirmation packet of data to confirm the receipt of the previous data (packets). So you can see that you actually send (upload) alot of data while downloading files and surfing the net. The faster your pc sends confirmations of the successful receipt of data packets, the faster the remote pc sends the next lot of data packets.

So, open your coin bags a little wider and enjoy true full speed broadband!
Hope that was readable, it's late and I often ramble on over explaining things.

Dave.

kro
11th August 2006, 07:52
Broadband is a bargain in general, when you look at the overall benefit.
Picture this, you are on dial up, and want to have a good long look thru the KB site, but your partner is expecting an important phone call, so you have to stay off the line..... not with broadband, you can do both.

No I don't work for Telecom, I have been on broadband for about 5 years now, and would not be without it now. Just having instant access to the net is magic. There's none of this double clicking the little "connect" icon, and waiting for the annoying buzzing and beeping of the modem, and hoping it will not disconnect you like the last time you tried. You simply click once on the Internet Explorer icon at the bottom of your tool bar, and pow!!, KB is right there, and in a flash too I might add. You can have all the avatars displayed, as well as all of Indy's half page signatures, and still it loads in half a second.

GET BROADBAND !!!!!

Beemer
11th August 2006, 08:12
There's none of this double clicking the little "connect" icon, and waiting for the annoying buzzing and beeping of the modem, and hoping it will not disconnect you like the last time you tried.

For any of you still on dial-up, you can go into the settings and turn off the noise. Go to this thread on PressF1 (http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showthread.php?t=48703&highlight=modem+noise) for full details, but here's the basic instructions:

First click on the Start button then open the Control Panel then double click on the Network Connections icon. Next right-click the internet connection you use and select Properties. This will open a new window - make sure you have the General tab selected and underneath where it tells you what modem you connect with there will be a button that has the word Configure written on it. Click this and it will open up another window. On this you should untick the box that says "Enable modem speaker" then click OK all the way out. Your modem should no longer make that annoying sound when connecting.

Wasp
11th August 2006, 08:29
Don't forget to "tweak" your local tcpip settings and tune (read fix) QoS.

I get about 360 ish kb/s on my 3.5/128

oh.... and then theres the max outgoing connections limit.......

kickingzebra
11th August 2006, 08:37
Move in to the country, got to go back to dial up
Move in to the country, got to go back to dial up
Move in to the country, got to go back to dial up
Move in to the country, got to go back to dial up
Dial up comes from the can
Telecom thinks they're the man
Running monopolies down town.
If I had My little way
I'd get broad band again today...
But I simply can't.

bugjuice
11th August 2006, 08:38
I've just changed my plan to Clear.net's PDQ (they reckon it stands for 'Pretty Damn Quick but I reckon it's 'Porn Downloaded Quicker')

Should save quite a bit......... at last..

Lias
11th August 2006, 09:15
I think I'll stick with my Orcon 256k/40gb plan.
I'd still be on the 256k/flatrate plan if they hadnt doubled the price..

Any plan with data caps sucks monkeys.. Its a shame we got LLU rather than simply a determination forcing Telescum to offer up fullspeed DSL plans with no data caps and low contention rates.

On an unrelated note, Telescum is starting to migrate its call centers to the 3rd world. See http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3760760a13,00.html

"Hurroh, you want stir fly lice wif dat cellphone topup?"

Ghost Lemur
11th August 2006, 09:19
No I don't work for Telecom, I have been on broadband for about 5 years now, and would not be without it now. Just having instant access to the net is magic. There's none of this double clicking the little "connect" icon, and waiting for the annoying buzzing and beeping of the modem, and hoping it will not disconnect you like the last time you tried. You simply click once on the Internet Explorer icon at the bottom of your tool bar, and pow!!, KB is right there, and in a flash too I might add. You can have all the avatars displayed, as well as all of Indy's half page signatures, and still it loads in half a second.

GET BROADBAND !!!!!

I DO work for Telecom. And their broadband does still currently suck.

Go teh Cabl0r. :nya:

Mmmmm 10Mbps goodness.

It's amazing what true broadband is capable of. Can be watching the MotoGP or Suzuka highest res without skipping, while leaching torrents.

They try telling you that when InternetTV arrives and high bandwidth uses are there they'll have put up the speeds (no mention of bitcaps) to accomodate those uses.

Someone needs to tell them that they're TOO LATE. That world is already hear and we're way behind. Believe me I've been trying to tell them, but no one listens to a lowly lackie.

Fatjim
11th August 2006, 10:03
I've just changed my plan to Clear.net's PDQ (they reckon it stands for 'Pretty Damn Quick but I reckon it's 'Porn Downloaded Quicker')

Should save quite a bit......... at last..

Mate, stop being a corporate whore. You don't work for them anymore!!!

GR81
11th August 2006, 10:15
dont get me started on ISP's and telecom!
die telecom die! :angry:

StoneChucker
11th August 2006, 11:25
I get about 360 ish kb/s on my 3.5/128
Mines bigger than yours:nya: :yes: [pt]

Seriously, if I wanted faster than 425kb/s +, I'd look into cable. However, I doubt that it's available in all areas, especially mine. I don't need faster at the moment, at 425kb/s, pages load in less than a second, sending mail and checking mail from 3 different pop3 accounts also takes less than a second, seriously. And finally, when playing World of Warcraft, my speed indicator is always green :) (When I was on the slower 128k upload plan it was always on light orange...)

Broadband saves time, period! You can speed through all the new KB pots, IF reading crap is your thing:shutup:

Squeak the Rat
11th August 2006, 12:03
Move in to the country, got to go back to dial up
Move in to the country, got to go back to dial up
Move in to the country, got to go back to dial up
Move in to the country, got to go back to dial up
Dial up comes from the can
Telecom thinks they're the man
Running monopolies down town.
If I had My little way
I'd get broad band again today...
But I simply can't.
And now they have to unbundle
You'll have more chance to grumble
Cause no ones gunna pay ten shicks
For you to surf away in the sticks

Brian d marge
11th August 2006, 12:40
I DO work for Telecom. And their broadband does still currently suck.

Go teh Cabl0r. :nya:

Mmmmm 10Mbps goodness.

It's amazing what true broadband is capable of. Can be watching the MotoGP or Suzuka highest res without skipping, while leaching torrents.

They try telling you that when InternetTV arrives and high bandwidth uses are there they'll have put up the speeds (no mention of bitcaps) to accomodate those uses.

Someone needs to tell them that they're TOO LATE. That world is already hear and we're way behind. Believe me I've been trying to tell them, but no one listens to a lowly lackie.

Yup , I get a national speed of 33Mbsps and an internationa; of 2 Mbps

They advertise its at 100 mbps ... ( the lying ^((()-^%%$)

but its unlimited , so this is how I watch Tv ,,in bed , on the laptop or on the desktop, as we speak I am down loadint the top gear series while listening to the BBc ( our Tel !! )

The main prob with NZ is the data cap ..Man that has to Suck

Stephen

Squeak the Rat
11th August 2006, 12:46
Speed up your broadband? Woohoo! I'll take 5 grams. Can you upload now please.....

cowpoos
11th August 2006, 12:47
This will be obvious to some here, but maybe a few folk will find it useful...
It is true what they say, once you go broadband - you never go back (mostly anyway...) I'm on the ihug broadband, and was very happy with my full speed plan (they all are full speed at ihug). I was downloading files at up to 310 kb/s actual speed, that's about 1 MB every 3.3 seconds, what would take between 4 to 6 minutes on dial-up.

What ISP's don't tell you, is that your upload speed also affects your download speed. Only the top 2 plans at ihug have the "full speed" upload rate. I was on Broadband Lite at $59.99 (3584k download, 128k upload, the 3584 doesn't mean that amout per sec, it's a theoretical value). Upgrading to one of the more expensive top 2 plans increases your upload speed from 128k to 512k. Whether you are on the top, or second from top plan, there is absolutely no difference in any speed whatsoever, the top plan gives you a slightly bigger data alowance. Now that I'm on Broadband Power (3584k download, 512k upload), my download speed has shot up from at the most 310kb/s, to 425kb/s true d/l speed, that's 1 MB every 2.4 seconds!!!

The reason for that is, all information or data, is sent over the internet using a protocol called TCP/IP (Transmission Control Protocol / Internet Protocol). From dusting out the cobwebs, I know (and it's on ihug's site somewhere deep in the info pages) that all information sent over the internet is done so by sending what they call "packets" of information. Your computer receives this information in the form of packets, after requesting those said packets (of whatever you were downloading, music, etc...). That is the first point of your pc SENDING data to request the data. Then, while the remote computer is sending the data (packets), after every few packets your pc SENDS a confirmation packet of data to confirm the receipt of the previous data (packets). So you can see that you actually send (upload) alot of data while downloading files and surfing the net. The faster your pc sends confirmations of the successful receipt of data packets, the faster the remote pc sends the next lot of data packets.

So, open your coin bags a little wider and enjoy true full speed broadband!
Hope that was readable, it's late and I often ramble on over explaining things.

Dave.
does any of this mean I can get broadband on the farm ???

Squeak the Rat
11th August 2006, 12:49
does any of this mean I can get broadband on the farm ???
The only broad band you're likely to find on a farm is the Dixie Chicks. Yeeeehaaaa.... :)

SPman
11th August 2006, 12:58
Moved to the sticks - back to real slow dial- up...a fast day is 3.1k.....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhh!

Thank god for broadband at work!

The Pastor
11th August 2006, 14:47
Move in to the country, got to go back to dial up
Move in to the country, got to go back to dial up
Move in to the country, got to go back to dial up
Move in to the country, got to go back to dial up
Dial up comes from the can
Telecom thinks they're the man
Running monopolies down town.
If I had My little way
I'd get broad band again today...
But I simply can't.


Millions of data for me
MIllions of data for free!


ADSL IS A JOKE! your upload should be the same as your download. No exceptions.

Ghost Lemur
11th August 2006, 15:34
The main prob with NZ is the data cap ..Man that has to Suck

Stephen

Don't get me started on bit caps. Number of times I get my 80% warning email after 5 day is rediculous.

ajturbo
11th August 2006, 17:17
Broad Band????

WTF is

Broad Band????

kickingzebra
11th August 2006, 18:40
AJ,

Broad band is something only the cool kids have, me an you an cowpoos will have to sit in the corner and eat used chewing gum, while they all talk about intelijint, entilajent, nuttellajunt.... Smart stuff...

Slingshot
11th August 2006, 18:43
(they all are full speed at ihug).

Doesn't that mean they should all have 512Kb upload speed then?

Fub@r
11th August 2006, 18:54
If you upgrade to the faster speed and stay with Xtra its gunna cost you, as once you reach your cap of 10gig they dont reduce your speed but instead charge you 2c per megabyte. Doesn't sound like much but it will quickly add up to a rather large bill at the end of the month.

With me I have stayed on my 10gig 2mbit plan despite Xtra constantly hassling me to "upgrade". With the old plan I'm on I get 200k upload speed, whereas if I "upgraded" my upload speed would drop to 128k. Reason I wasn't automatically upgraded was that when I signed on years ago the upload speed was higher and if Xtra upgraded me to the new plan I could go for compensation for a downgrade

Whatever plan you guys get.........make sure you read the small print, also with the new plans you can get lower performance. I have had mates who were on 2mbit and were upgraded to 3.5mbit and are now actually running at 1mbit and have been told to suck it as Telecom now doesn't guarantee speed

jrandom
11th August 2006, 19:06
Shut your pie holes, you mangy bunch of whinging malcontents, and try surfing KB from China.

"Ah, foreign devil, you like that? Ah, so! Glayt Firewall of China makee life velly difficult! Nebber mind, you wantee fucky-fucky?"

Welcome to Shenzhen, the arsehole of Asia. I shall never diss Telecom NZ again.

Brian d marge
11th August 2006, 19:17
The 100 yen shop now sell extra long LAN cables, or you need to be in line of site of the Router... ( the one in Japan ~ ):blah:

Are the chineese still upset over those hookers we ordered???

Stephen

jrandom
11th August 2006, 20:28
Are the chineese still upset over those hookers we ordered?

Well, they certainly don't appear to have run out of them at this end.

kro
11th August 2006, 20:34
Broad Band????

WTF is

Broad Band????

Teh broadband = fast internet....real fast