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Lance
18th August 2006, 11:22
I cant get the oil to run. Have taken the unit off and removed the hose and poked wire up the nipple but no oil comes out. Any ideas

Lance

Lou Girardin
18th August 2006, 11:24
Is the vacuum line still connected/not leaking?
Disconnect it from the oiler end and feel for suction with the engine running.

Flyingpony
18th August 2006, 13:01
Is there oil in it?
Is there the right thickness oil in it?
Is the breather hole blocked?
Is the dial switched on position off?

Blackbird
18th August 2006, 14:26
If you turn the flow adjuster right round to the prime setting (towards the biggest number), it manually lifts the flow controller in the reservoir. Do this with the engine running. It should also do this (I think) with the engine not running and the vacuum line disconnected. Is there any flow in the feed pipe at this setting? Look all the way up the line for indicators like small air bubbles. Even if you have a large amount of air in the line, the oil should push it along.

Another check is to disconnect your vacuum line at the engine and suck on it. You should see a small degree of movement in the flow controller inside the reservoir as it lifts.

If you can give us some more feedback on your checks, hopefully we can help you some more.

Jantar
18th August 2006, 14:30
Also check that the beather is not blocked. Just remove the breather from the filler while carrying out the checks that Blachbird described, if oil runs on prime put the breather back on and see if oil still runs.

Oh, one other check.... Is there any oil in the reservoir?

mstriumph
18th August 2006, 14:37
i was thinking of having one of these fitted
- i'm not always as prompt about routine maintenance as i should be

........ but this is sounding complicated?

Blackbird
18th August 2006, 14:41
i was thinking of having one of these fitted
- i'm not always as prompt about routine maintenance as i should be

........ but this is sounding complicated?

It's not complicated at all. Neither is fault-finding - it's simply hard to write in a post without feedback! Lou's comments about Pixie's alternative sounds promising too. http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=34109

Flyingpony
18th August 2006, 15:28
i was thinking of having one of these fitted
........ but this is sounding complicated?
:niceone: and that's why I installed the Loobman chain oiler. It just works.
My biggest break down has been to fit two new zip ties onto the D.S.D. head.
Piece of cake, 5 minute job.

Jantar
18th August 2006, 15:38
i was thinking of having one of these fitted
- i'm not always as prompt about routine maintenance as i should be

........ but this is sounding complicated?

No, its not at all complicated. The Scottoiler works from the engine vacuum so that oil is only feeding while the engine is running. It consists of a small reservoir that has all the vacuum operated valve, the feed adjuster and the priming mechanism all built in. It is a simple matter to find somewhere on the bike to fit it, run a tube from the reservoir to the chain/sprocket, and another tube from the reservoir to the carburettor. I fitted mine on the VStrom in less than 90 minutes, and 30 minutes of that was just priming the tube, the very thing that Lance is having diffculty doing. That part is mainly a matter of patience.

Lou Girardin
18th August 2006, 15:49
Pixies chain oilers are custom made for each bike. The reservoir is a steel unit with an solenoid valve operating off the tail light circuit. There is an adjustable flow valve and we've been trialling a brush dispenser to feed oil onto the chain. This is working very well. Lubes as well as as a feed tube, but uses less oil and makes less mess.

mstriumph
18th August 2006, 15:59
one of my worries is spending time and money only to find i'd got something that was over-oiling all over the place ..............

The Pastor
18th August 2006, 21:41
Pixies chain oilers are custom made for each bike. The reservoir is a steel unit with an solenoid valve operating off the tail light circuit. There is an adjustable flow valve and we've been trialling a brush dispenser to feed oil onto the chain. This is working very well. Lubes as well as as a feed tube, but uses less oil and makes less mess.

Yeah I had a look at the setup, very very nice.

What is a solenoid valve? How does one work?

Lou Girardin
19th August 2006, 10:20
Yeah I had a look at the setup, very very nice.

What is a solenoid valve? How does one work?

I'ts just an electric solenoid that opens a valve when you power it up. It's a lot easier to fit and set up than a vacuum system.

sAsLEX
19th August 2006, 10:47
SO is Pixie thinking of marketing these once they are perfected?

Kyle
19th August 2006, 12:35
I had similar trouble with the old empty scott oiler that was on my bike when i got it. (didnt come with insruction book) I filled it up with non "scott" oil, some good sticky castol pour on lube, then went for a ride and barely anything had come down the feed tube when i got back.

Closer inspection revealed the twist-top flow adjuster, Ahh! i thought, set it to "prime" and away i rode, four hours later when i stoped to check, woohoo!! oil coming through now, plenty of oil on the chain.. on the chain guard, on the fairings, all over the rim, on the back tire!

So now that its primed i run it on the lowest setting and it works just right.

Lou Girardin
19th August 2006, 13:19
SO is Pixie thinking of marketing these once they are perfected?

No, it's a hobby thing. He'll make each one to order. He and I have both used ours for 3 or 4 years now, they work great.

Kyle
19th August 2006, 19:25
Im not sure if its a scot oiler patent, but the place its designed to drip is the secert key. That brush on idea doesnt sound so good. Most of the wear and tear to a chain and sprockets is physical stretching of the chain between the sprockets due to wear inside the roller. With the scot oiler setup right it drips onto the oring seal itself and centrifugal force spins the oil into the inside of the chain. This is where they get the extra thousands of kms usage, compared to regular spray or poured on lubing.

The Pastor
19th August 2006, 20:38
I'ts just an electric solenoid that opens a valve when you power it up. It's a lot easier to fit and set up than a vacuum system.


And where would one buy one?:innocent:

mstriumph
23rd August 2006, 12:51
............. and the thread goes quiet as everyone pauses to listen for the reply .............

Lou Girardin
23rd August 2006, 15:09
Im not sure if its a scot oiler patent, but the place its designed to drip is the secert key. That brush on idea doesnt sound so good.

The brush spreads lube onto both O rings directly, you don't need an excess of oil to ensure it gets to the non-dripped on O ring as you do with feed tubes.
But if someone insists on a tube they can have it.

Lou Girardin
23rd August 2006, 15:10
And where would one buy one?:innocent:

From your nearest solenoid valve shop.

Lance
24th August 2006, 21:32
Thanks all for the hints. I have nealy got the problem solved. Oil now running but still have not got it running through all the ups and downs in the line. Will just leave it screwed up to max for a while. Hey Jantar mine is a V strom too the 650 how do you like yours Will be down your way sometime soon Cheers Lance