A wheelie good idea

[Timber020]

If someone else is nuts enough to think of this before, well I feel better about my own state of mind.

So you have an adjustable angle sensor wired up to your bike. when you get the front coming up to far in a wheelie, it cuts the engine until it drops to the right angle.

You could have it kinda progressive so it cuts spark to on two three or four cylinders depending on how "up" you are or how fast its coming up. so its a little more gentle as a full on cut out in high revs would create alot of engine braking and the front coming down like a sledge hammer.

What do you guys think?

[rwh]

So you have an adjustable angle sensor wired up to your bike. when you get the front coming up to far in a wheelie, it cuts the engine until it drops to the right angle.


How is the sensor going to work? You can't just have a plumbob type thing, because it will swing back under acceleration anyway - it can't tell the difference. Measuring the angle to a gyro might work. Or you could have wheelie bars that are always on the ground, and measure the angle to that? None of them sound ideal.

Plus, of course, it would take all the challenge away from pulling wheelies.

Richard (who has only wheelied once, by accident - and it may have just decompressed the forks; I couldn't see from on top ...)

[jeremysprite]

But we WANT to wheelie.

[Motoracer]

If someone else is nuts enough to think of this before, well I feel better about my own state of mind.

So you have an adjustable angle sensor wired up to your bike. when you get the front coming up to far in a wheelie, it cuts the engine until it drops to the right angle.

You could have it kinda progressive so it cuts spark to on two three or four cylinders depending on how "up" you are or how fast its coming up. so its a little more gentle as a full on cut out in high revs would create alot of engine braking and the front coming down like a sledge hammer.

What do you guys think?

The bikes in wheelie school have a mechanism to do this. If you have fuel injection, it can be programed fairly easily.

Seems like a lot of uneeded hassal... Just get out there and do it! The process you go through of learning is a huge part of the fun!

But I wouldn't be surprised if future Superbikes came with such a feature with BHPs already nearing 200 from stock...

[Buster]

http://www.ononewheel.com/

This is alot easier and you actually learn how to wheelie! :rockon:

[imdying]

You can get little chips these days that are perfect for the purpose, you'd be best to retard the ignition at least at first. Of course, you could use your right hand to do the same job.

[Jamezo]

You can get little chips these days that are perfect for the purpose, you'd be best to retard the ignition at least at first. Of course, you could use your right hand to do the same job.
Sinfest FTW!

Sorry. As you were.

[Timber020]

The idea of it would mean riders would be able to learn to wheelie better with more saftey, I know its dangerous and that such a device might encourage more to do it and will lessen the greatness of a good mono, but if it saved a few lives I think its worth thinking about. And it would be a good learning aid.

Ive gone over backwards plenty of times on dirtbikes, but looping on a road bike doesnt seem nearly as appealing. You could get your gearchanges sussed and get the idea of feel when it comes to wheelie angle before having to worry so much about the throttle control.

[Posh Tourer :P]

BMW's latest R1200R has a system which stops wheelies.... It is based around a traction control system, but obviously as the front slows when it is in the air, it thinks the rear is out of traction (going faster) and retards ignition, or reduces throttle or something....
Of course, that wouldnt help you if you were going over very quickly, but it kinda relates. Maybe something that sensed high lean angle would be ok, as it wouldnt be so affected by normal acceleration, as it would be on a greater angle??

[DEATH_INC.]

It could be made work, but where's the fun? The adrenelain from thinking you've fucked up is what makes wheelies exciting, take that away and it'd be just like riding normally......
The new breed of thous already make it too easy to do wheelies anyhoo.

[bugjuice]

The new R6 has fly-by-wire. Give it time, someone will figure out a way to set up the system so you can't fuck up a big wheelie easily.

You can get 'TOS' (tip over sensors) which are fitted to a lot of bikes now. It's a weight in a box, and the box has 3 wires. Middle one is fed, the other two complete the circuit. As soon as the weight moves over one of the sides, it completes the circuit, the bike thinks it's on the way down, it shuts the engine off. Repositioned and rewired, you could rig it to one plug lead, so that it cuts off the signal, and drops you gently down, instead of the sharp jolt of cutting the engine off. If you cut all power and kill the engine, first, you'll shag the gearbox, drive, internals etc in no time, blow your forks, root the head, and potentially split your frame. So rather not, thanks..

There's a few wheelie schools around that have set up their bikes with systems tho. Most compile of a length of a rod stuck out the back. It's adjustable hight means you can angle it further up, the more confident you get. That's wired up to one cylinder and just cuts the ignition off, so that it comes back down (misfiring), not crashing back down. I've seen footage of complete newbs starting in the morning, and not being able to get it up a few inches. By the end of the day, they're doing fully fledged monos at a nice consistent pace for as long as they want..

But I do agree with Death (not often you get to say that sentence), that the best rush is pulling a decent one (of half decent in my case) and getting the buzz that it's you doing it or fukin it up..