*spoiler* All Blacks vs Wallabies 19-08-06

[Zed]

New Zealand-34
Australia-27

Victory is sweet!!!!! :yeah:

Great game tonight, started off with the new Haka which sent a chill down my spine and got me in the mood to watch a good game of rough rugger. Was VERY aggressive from both sides, lots of blood and bruises, to my horror I thought Ritchie McCaw was going to be stretchered off after he got spear tackled, the slow motion replay showed his whole upper body being twisted into the ground, but he continued to fight on and played well to the end!

I thought the ref did great, quite liked his style of controlling the players and calling aloud their numbers to warn them instead of haphazardly blowing his whistle and interrupting the game all the time like some do.

Aussie nearly had it though, they led pretty much throughout by 4 or 5 points but the AB's triumphed over them in the last 20mins of the 2nd half, so I think that makes it 13 or 14 consecutive international wins for the current All Black team - WELL DONE NZ! :2thumbsup

[chanceyy]

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm the ref was shit .. missed quite a bit off the ball stuff .. as for the spear tackle tequiri should have been binned .. farken dangerous shit

yes the game was full of blood .. mostly by the aussie and mcaw

did not think it was the best all back performance .. but we won so yahhooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Waylander]

second Ozzie try should not have been though. He had no downward pressure on the ball when it touched.

Also havn't seen that many forward passes from both sides since the last gridiron game I watched..

Good game all the same though.

[Zed]

second Ozzie try should not have been though. He had no downward pressure on the ball when it touched.Agreed. The judgment was terrible considering they had the replay to show clearly that he never grounded the ball.


Also havn't seen that many forward passes from both sides since the last gridiron game I watched..True, from both sides, and yes chanceyy the ref missed most of them...I kinda wondered at the time if he intentionally let them slide to keep to game in motion??

[Waylander]

True, from both sides, and yes chanceyy the ref missed most of them...I kinda wondered at the time if he intentionally let them slide to keep to game in motion??
Hey we got a try off one of them so I'm not complaining.

[chanceyy]

second Ozzie try should not have been though. He had no downward pressure on the ball when it touched.

Also havn't seen that many forward passes from both sides since the last gridiron game I watched..

Good game all the same though.

yeah it look like he lost control of it as it went down .. from the number of replays .. should not have been allowed .. must have had the rose colored glasses on ..

yeah forward passes aplenty, mind you alot of the time the aussies were up pretty flat as well

but i will still take the win .. any way we can get them .. just not a comprehesive performace .. but then the aussies had absolutely nothing to lose either .. they certainly took it to us


now watching warriors . currently 18 - 20 melbourne storm .. but do not expect them to win .. :Punk:

[oldrider]

Thank you for posting Zed, I didn't see or hear the game and was wondering. Cheers John.

[crashe]

That TRY to the aussie's should NOT have been allowed at all.... He never had any pressure down on it at all.. Now the 3rd REF (tv ref) should be sacked... how the hell could he not see that in all the replays that the ball wasnt pressured down.

I hope that aussie dude (number 11) is taken to the courts and made to miss at least 10 games for that nasty spear-tackle.
How the hell the ref and the two touch ref's didnt see it... is beyond me!
Everyone else saw it. Even when the crowd boo'ed him big time... did you all notice that he was inciting them (the crowd) to keep the booing going ... well done to the ABs for not going after him.

I was impressed thou with the ref when he stopped the game and told all players to not touch the aussie dude after he crumbled down to the ground after leaping up for the ball in the lineout. He landed badly.

As to the game it started out great with the AB's.. but then they seemed to loose it... the aussies kept coming at them...

In the last 10 minutes I was thinking that we were going to loose it... but right at the end.. the AB's came throu.

So another victory to the All Blacks.

Back to the basic training and handling balls skills are required..
I bet Mr Henry gave them all a good bollocking at half time and at the end of the game...

[MattRSK]

I guess one good thing is that the players can be sighted later on if the ref does not pick up on dangerous play. Will they make a complaint though?

[chanceyy]

the Warriors won ... 24-20 .. now that pretty much rounds out the weekend ..


kinda expected them to fold like the generally do in the last 10 ..

hats off to you boys .. congrats :D:rockon: :done:

[MattRSK]

Brilliant :rockon:

[crashe]

I guess one good thing is that the players can be sighted later on if the ref does not pick up on dangerous play. Will they make a complaint though?

Yep he was cited... and there was a meeting at 10am this morning..
He didnt even apologise to our guy... and appeared arogant (sp) afterwards at the media meeting... refer to Xtra homepage news item.

Dont know what he got yet...

But our guy was very lucky... to not be in a wheelchair.

[Colapop]

The game (AB's) was as bloody a game as I've seen. I was very disappointed by the ref. The Ab's gave away 4 penalty's throughout the game and the Aussies got away with (supposedly) only 9. How many times should a ref warn a player ie. Rocky Elsom. In the lead up to Jason Eaton's try he was warned 6 times and not penalised once. The off the ball 'play' was crap. I's not grid iron, Richie McCaw was taken out off the ball 3 or 4 times.

The Aussies were lucky. If it wasn't for two soft try's and a couple of passes that didn't stick the scoreline would've been very different (against the Aussies)

[chanceyy]

agree with ya cola .. that rocky elsom should have been penalised then sent off, then he might have pulled his head in a bit

mind you thought richie showed constrant not to punch him out when he keep taking him off the ball

as for tiquiri flaunting it in front of the crowd .. what a tosser .. hope he gets his punishment today since the ref was such a soft cock last nite

[Colapop]

Aussie league/union convicts... oops I mean converts - why are they such assholes?

I thought the AB's constructed more chances last night, and the Aussies really didn't do too much except engage in illegal play. Yes of course I'm blatantly overlooking the AB's...

Some stats;
Possession: NZ 49%, Aus 51%
Territory: NZ 46%, Aus 54%
Lineouts won: NZ 11 Aus 9
Lineouts lost: NZ 2 Aus 1
Top jumpers: Jason Eaton 5, Chris Jack 2; Nathan Sharpe 4, Daniel Vickerman 4
Scrums won: NZ 7 Aus 9
Scrums lost: NZ 0, Aus 1
Scrums reset: NZ 2, Aus 5
Rucks won: NZ 78 Aus 82
Mauls won: NZ 4, Aus 2
Hitups: NZ 66, Aus 70
Linebreaks: NZ 14, Aus 8
Tackles made: NZ 137, Aus 131
Tackles missed: NZ 20, Aus 17
Top tacklers: Richie McCaw 15, Chris Jack 14; Phil Waugh 20, Matt Giteau 12
Turnovers: NZ 20, Aus 17
Errors: NZ 15, Aus 5
Penalties conceded: NZ 4, Aus 13

[Swoop]

Oh, was there a pointy ball game on?

:zzzz: :whocares: :yawn:

[MattRSK]

Oh, was there a pointy ball game on?

:zzzz: :whocares: :yawn:

hahah never heard it said like that before.

[Colapop]

Yep apparently there was a round ball group hug session a couple of weeks ago...:nya:

[terbang]

Yup I agree it was a great game of cricket..

[Swoop]

How about that weather we've been having eh?

Great for riding!

[oldrider]

I only saw some replay of the test.
20 tackles by Phil Waugh?
Most of his tackles were on Ritchie McCaw while "he" was tackling someone else!
I turned it off, couldn't be bothered watching a game with such all round bad refereeing, especially when you know the result.
The Aussies have really gone down in my estimation by the way they played the man so blatantly, it was very poor sportsmanship. :angry: John.

[sAsLEX]

it was very poor sportsmanship. :angry: John.

Well tiquiri cant play rugby for 12 weeks now!!

IRB didnt agree Macaws "momentum" meant he practically speared himself as the aussy coach was arguing and handed out one of the bigger stand downs ever

[Zed]

Well tiquiri cant play rugby for 12 weeks now!!

IRB didnt agree Macaws "momentum" meant he practically speared himself as the aussy coach was arguing and handed out one of the bigger stand downs everThat's great news Alex!!

:2thumbsup Unrepentant Tuqiri cops 5-match ban! (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=4&ObjectID=10397233) :2thumbsup

"Tuqiri will miss Australia's final Tri-Nations test against South Africa in three weeks' time, three games for New South Wales against the Brumbies, the Queensland Reds and the Perth Force next month and the opening game of Australia's Northern Hemisphere tour in November against the Welsh club Ospreys."

[Biff]

Pedant hat on.

I have an admission to make, one I've made made public here before - I am a rugby referee. I know - shame on me.

My take on the game:

A fkin disgrace. I was sickened by the Ozzie tactics to take McCaw out of the game. I was also shocked that no cards were produced as a result of the spear tackle of McCaw (although not in itself illegal if you read the rules, but can be classed as dangerous play if deemed severe enough).

My son has been turned off rugby after watching that match with me. A couple of weeks ago he watched me ref a local match, where a guy unfortnately broke his neck. That scared the crap out of him (and me), now be wants to play poof ball, where the biggest risk is getting kissed by your fellow team mates.

Rugby is a tough enough game as it is, without shit like this.

Rant over.

Well done the ABs.

As an aside the vido ref is considered the 4th official. And a letter of apology has been sent to McCaw by Tuqiri.

[Colapop]

A public admission... I do not hate referess. Those of you that do this thankless task deserve a medal (whatever code you support). We in NZ (rugby-folk) are spoilt by the number of cameras that we have to view things from for most of the rugby that gets televised. It has created an army of armchair international level referees who are capable of picking up even the slightest nuances of the game from slow motion replays. I have refereed as part of my coursework for coaching and it's bloody hard. The game doesn't stop because of infractions commited and you (as a ref) have to make split second decisions sometimes that affect the outcome of games. The quality of refs generally has got better unfortunately I don't think Chris White has. I've seen him ref before and made the comment at kick off "I bet the first score will be a penalty in the AB's 22 very soon...

As far as the game went, I haven't seen so many players with so much blood on them before in a rugby game. How many times can a player (Rocky Elsom) be warned before being penalised - quite alot it seems. What is the point of a TV ref if he cannot adjudicate properly? We need more northern hemisphere refs down here and more of our guys up there. There has to be bgreater consistency in the way games are reffed...
that's my bit done.

[chanceyy]

Pedant hat on.

I have an admission to make, one I've made made public here before - I am a rugby referee. I know - shame on me.

No shame in that .. good on ya ..



Rugby is a tough enough game as it is, without shit like this.

Rant over.

Well done the ABs.

As an aside the vido ref is considered the 4th official. And a letter of apology has been sent to McCaw by Tuqiri.


all very well sending a letter of apology, however how would he feel if Richie ended up in Burwood Spinal Unit ... a letter would not have made it right ..

A 5 match ban ... will that impact enough ?? I wonder if he has watched the game & just realised how badly it could have all gone with one stupid moment in time ....

Does not take much in this world for one moment to change ones life forever ........

[Biff]

A 5 match ban ... will that impact enough ??

Nope - if it was up to me I'd ban him for a year. In particular because of his reaction to the crowd immediatley after the 'tackle'.


A public admission... I do not hate referess. Those of you that do this thankless task deserve a medal (whatever code you support).

Thank you sir.

I'm forever hurling abuse at the TV when referees miss things, it's part of the fun. But when you're in the middle of it all, and there are bodies flying everywhere (often in your direct line of sight) it's inevitable that you'll miss something, especially when you've a split second decision to make. Oh how I'd love to experience the benefit of a video ref and replays.

My stock response to any spectators that give me shit is to tell them that if they believe they can do better then become a referee and prove it, or to shut the fuck up.

[Zed]

all very well sending a letter of apology, however how would he feel if Richie ended up in Burwood Spinal Unit ... a letter would not have made it right .. Of course it wouldn't make it right, the letter was probably only written on advice from his employers anyway. It was quite apparent that he showed no remorse when he did it by his reaction to the crowd and his continued rough play...and the AB's found it very difficult to contain him, he is as strong as an Ox!


A 5 match ban ... will that impact enough ?? I wonder if he has watched the game & just realised how badly it could have all gone with one stupid moment in time ....

Does not take much in this world for one moment to change ones life forever ........You're right of course, but it is rugby and everyone who has played the game knows the risks, it is a full contact sport with injuries a dime a dozen, and dirty play often, especially when rival international teams come up against eachother!

It was interesting reading the article in the Harold (link in previous post) and taking note of McCaw's and Henry's perspectives:

"I've certainly felt that before (the spear tackle) and I guess there are going to be times when I feel it again," McCaw said.

All Blacks coach Graham Henry offered qualified support for Tuqiri. He felt Tuqiri did not aim to deliberately hurt McCaw.