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The_Dover
22nd August 2006, 11:46
Right you boring feckers, this place is as dead as a Hezbollah peace protest so give me your recommendations for a good book to read.

I'm not interested in any cult genres like sci fi, dwarf fantasy shit, vampires etc. Just normal stories that you can actually get into without having to believe that bionic midgets with 8 testicles that drink human blood and fly around in space ships rule the galaxy.

And none of you Mills and Boon crap either Finn, I gotta read this shit in public (on the train).

So, suggestions?

Squeak the Rat
22nd August 2006, 11:49
Standard run of the mill "popular" fiction, or something a bit more literary?

If the latter, then my favourites are:

Haruki Murakami - The Wind Up Bird Chronicles
Jonathan Lethem - Motherless Brooklyn
Victor Pelevin - The Clay Machine Gun
Robert Mitchell - Ghostwritten


If the former then go and read Tom Clancy or somethin...

Postie
22nd August 2006, 11:56
FHM, Ralph, Two Wheels........... what else do you need?

SimJen
22nd August 2006, 11:56
If your into war stuff, try some of Antony Beevor's bestsellers.
All true, historical accounts of various major battles.
Stalingrad is awesome.
Generally though I just read bike mags ;)

Cookie
22nd August 2006, 11:56
I recently enjoyed reading "The Clitoral Truth: The Secret World at Your Fingertips"

http://tinyurl.com/qldmy

Very educational.

Big Dave
22nd August 2006, 11:57
without having to believe that bionic midgets with 8 testicles that drink human blood and fly around in space ships rule the galaxy.


Hey - don't you knock Scientology pal. it's a bona fide religion.

Hitcher
22nd August 2006, 11:59
Snow falling on cedars, by David Guterson
Captain Corelli's Mandolin, by Louis de Berniere
John Britten, by Tim Hanna
Budding Prospects, by T C Boyle

Finn
22nd August 2006, 12:00
Just for you...

Dale Carnegie - How to Win Friends and Influence People.

McJim
22nd August 2006, 12:00
Try something by Irvine Welsh like Filth, Trainspotting etc.

It'll make you feel homesick - certainly does me.

Or Iain Banks is another good author.

Fishy
22nd August 2006, 12:02
Fox magazine is worth the read.

SimJen
22nd August 2006, 12:04
I recently enjoyed reading "The Clitoral Truth: The Secret World at Your Fingertips"

http://tinyurl.com/qldmy

Very educational.

Yeah but did it help you find it?

McJim
22nd August 2006, 12:09
Yeah but did it help you find it?

The irony is that we need a link to find a book, we need the book to find the clit.

I think if women want us blokes to find it they should just put it on our face.

Cookie
22nd August 2006, 12:09
Yeah but did it help you find it?

Yeah. Its got diagrams and everything. :D

judecatmad
22nd August 2006, 12:10
A Clockwork Orange by Stanley Kubrick, hard work but well worth the read

Or there's a 'True Crimes' book that i've got all about serial killers.....should mean you have a seat all to yourself!!!

So no sci-fi eh? You're probably not into the Classics, so there's little point recommending Wuthering Heights or the Iliad and the Odyssey...!

Islands of Angry Ghosts by Hugh Edwards was a good read - it's the story of the Batavia, a trading ship wrecked off the coast of Australia in 1629. It flicks between the past and the present. Not too girlie, no sci-fi, a true story (embellished of course) and no dwarves.....there you go!

The_Dover
22nd August 2006, 12:13
I've read The Wasp Factory by Iain Banks but don't really like Irvine Welsh's writing style.

I'll look up some of Ratsqueakers recommendations. I'm not a literary snob so I'll give anything a bash but too trashy or too wanky and it'll end up as a precursor to the kindling.

I've just finished Not the End of the World by Christopher Brookmyre and quite enjoyed it, even if he did get a bit carried away with the hidden meaning and theoretical shite sometimes.

EDIT: As for the classics, I thoroughly enjoyed Wuthering Heights.

cowpoos
22nd August 2006, 12:18
edmunds cook book
jamie olivers...taste of italy
101 ways to cook fried chicken wings....by fatjim

The_Dover
22nd August 2006, 12:19
edmunds cook book
jamie olivers...taste of italy
101 ways to cook fried chicken wings....by fatjim

I can cook already tubby.

Have you read "Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code?

Drum
22nd August 2006, 12:23
Zen and the art of Motorcycle Maintenance - Robert Pirzig

Crisis management
22nd August 2006, 12:26
EDIT: As for the classics, I thoroughly enjoyed Wuthering Heights.

But have you read Spike Milligans version of Wuthering Heights?

Robert Fisks book about the middle east...can't find the title at present but just published.

Reginald Hill, pommie author of phsycological thrillers.

Stephen Kings phsycological thrillers, not the horror stuff, and his stories written under the psuedonym (sp), Richard Bachman.

Any of Tim Hanna's books NZ motorcycling topics

Basic bodywork repairs, haynes manuals????:sick:

Lou Girardin
22nd August 2006, 12:28
The Smartest Guys in the Room. The Enron Debacle. A fascinating study of chutzpah and greed
The War for Civilisation - The Conquest of the Middle East. Fisk's huge examination of the causes of todays terrorism.

McJim
22nd August 2006, 12:37
I can cook already tubby.

Have you read "Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code?

Twist of the wrist 2 is supposedly better.

judecatmad
22nd August 2006, 12:42
EDIT: As for the classics, I thoroughly enjoyed Wuthering Heights.

Is that that sarcasm again??? So confused..... :wacko:

If not, try The Tenant of Wildfell Hall (Anne Bronte) - similar vein, good read.

Biff
22nd August 2006, 12:42
I finished a book called Mr Nice recently.

It's an autobiograhy of a Welsh guy who was Britain's most wanted man for many years, a major international cannabis smuggler and an MI6 agent.

And it's true. The book is written by Mr Nice himself, Howard Marks.

Top read.

cowpoos
22nd August 2006, 12:43
I can cook already tubby.

well that stomach ain't from eating raw celery......thats for sure!


Have you read "Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code?
single again??? sounds like karma sutra for wankers?

judecatmad
22nd August 2006, 12:43
Basic bodywork repairs, haynes manuals????:sick:

Yellow pages........ :rofl:

Squeak the Rat
22nd August 2006, 12:45
Chickenhawk - Robert Mason. Good autobiography about a chopper pilot in vietnam.

awesker
22nd August 2006, 12:48
Dover, if your into war books track down Chickenhawk, its about a helicopter pilot in the vietnam war.. fucking brilliant.. ive read it twice and wanna read it again.. shouldnt have 'lent' it to a friend =/

Indiana_Jones
22nd August 2006, 12:48
'Sharpe' novels by Bernard Cornwell

The the stories of a soldier gone commissioned officer fighting the French in the Napoleonic wars

Or

'Aubrey-Maturin' series by Patrick O'Brian

The adventures of Captain Jack Aubrey & friend Stephen Maturin, the ship's Surgeon.


Those are fun for the History buff/geeks here :rockon:

-Indy

awesker
22nd August 2006, 12:48
HAHA good taste squeak!

WickedOne
22nd August 2006, 12:49
Up Country - Nelson Demille
General's Daughter - Nelson Demille
Lion's Game - Nelson Demille
Blackwater Sound - James W Hall
Deception Point - Dan Brown
The Altman Code - Robert Ludlam

Indiana_Jones
22nd August 2006, 12:54
"Mein kampf" By Adolf Hitler

I've read abit of it, before I had to return it.

Some of it is pretty interesting _b

-Indy

Finn
22nd August 2006, 12:57
I can just picture it now. Dover sitting on the train with his soft leather briefcase containing a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, an apple, two biscuits wrapped in cellophane and his Donald Duck drink bottle. He sits there with his legs crossed as he licks his index finger to aid the flipping of pages while occasionally sipping on a nice warm cup of Earl Gray.

Dover you fucken fag!

Squeak the Rat
22nd August 2006, 12:57
I'll look up some of Ratsqueakers recommendations. I'm not a literary snob so I'll give anything a bash but too trashy or too wanky and it'll end up as a precursor to the kindling.
.......
he did get a bit carried away with the hidden meaning and theoretical shite sometimes.
Hmmm, try Motherless Brooklyn first then.... Or at least read the reviews in Amazon!

Indiana_Jones
22nd August 2006, 12:58
I can just picture it now. Dover sitting on the train with his soft leather briefcase containing a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, an apple, two biscuits wrapped in cellophane and his Donald Duck drink bottle. He sits there with his legs crossed as he licks his index finger to aid the flipping of pages while occasionally sipping on a nice warm cup of Earl Gray.

Dover you fucken fag!

lolz!

wait a minute, that sounds like what i'd do........

-Indy

Turtle
22nd August 2006, 12:58
[Korn from work]
Anything by Sven Hassell.... awesome world war 2 stories(very graphic) about a German Penal Tank regiment doing their business...have got the whole series and have read them all at least 3 times :D

The_Dover
22nd August 2006, 13:04
I've read a few good war books so I'll look out for Chickenhawk.

Not sarcasm jude, I read and enjoyed WH. I've spent a fair bit of time in Bronte country.

judecatmad
22nd August 2006, 13:05
[Korn from work]
Anything by Sven Hassell.... awesome world war 2 stories(very graphic) about a German Penal Tank regiment doing their business...have got the whole series and have read them all at least 3 times :D

Ooh, still on WW2 - A Bridge Too Far is pretty good (having said that, I was sky-diving at the time I read the book [multi-tasking in the extreme :eek: ] so that was what held my interest).

skelstar
22nd August 2006, 13:13
'Chickenhawk' is awesome. The end is a bit too deep though. Just tell us about flying the godamm choppers!!!

'Riverworld' by Philip Jose Farmer is pretty cool.

'Life of Pi'...

'Catcher in the Rye' maybe...might appeal to you :innocent:. (ha ha 'Hitcher in the wry' :yes:).

Finn
22nd August 2006, 13:15
It's been over 15 minutes and you haven't bitten Dover. Those rejection drugs for your new overy must be working.

sels1
22nd August 2006, 13:15
I'm half way thru "Shantaram" - its a 1000 pager. Its a true story about an aussie writer who gets into drugs then robbery then jail. Breaks out , skips to NZ and then to India. Lives in the slums of Bombay and gets caught up with the local mafia, amongst other interesting and sometimes amusing types.
So far a good read, altho a little heavy in places.

Dooly
22nd August 2006, 13:19
Just finished reading 'Terminated' by Chris Mirams about the David Tua/Kevin Barry story and their bust up. Pretty good.
Have now started the new book out on Shane Warne, its about 500 pages and so far good, as Warne does'nt endorse it as it tells things more truthfully than he would do.:yes:

ManDownUnder
22nd August 2006, 13:21
Depends what you're into...

On the Motorcycling theme there's "One good run (http://www.penguin.co.nz/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780143019749,00.html)" - the semi biographical account of Burt Munro. A good read, funny and (mostly?) true

On the Enginering Side, try "Making of the Atomic Bomb (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0684813785/sr=1-1/qid=1156209346/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-7128065-9185640?ie=UTF8&s=books)" Richard Rhodes. Heavy(ish) reading but really interesting account of the development of physics and Physical Chemistry culminating in the making of the first atomic weopons.

General crap books... don; know any worth reading...

I can lend you either of the above as soon as I get them back from the guys I lent them to...
MDU

Street Gerbil
22nd August 2006, 13:26
This one (http://fictionbook.ru/author/goodkind_terry/sword_of_truth_1_wizard_s_first_rule/goodkind_sword_of_truth_1_wizard_s_first_rule.html ) is not bad if you like fantasy.

bobsmith
22nd August 2006, 13:28
it doesn't sound like you're looking for fantasy, but I say Wheel of time series still..... by Robert Jordan. Much better than that copycat sword of truth series....

The_Dover
22nd August 2006, 13:34
I can just picture it now. Dover sitting on the train with his soft leather briefcase containing a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, an apple, two biscuits wrapped in cellophane and his Donald Duck drink bottle. He sits there with his legs crossed as he licks his index finger to aid the flipping of pages while occasionally sipping on a nice warm cup of Earl Gray.

Dover you fucken fag!

Actually Finn, I sit on the train with my tank bag containing my tuna sandwiches in my Winnie the Pooh lunchbox and a hip flask of scotch. I never cross my legs, in fact I struggle to get them behind the seat in front on some of the trains and that's if I do infact get a seat. I haven't got a travel mug yet but I'm saving up for one.

HDTboy
22nd August 2006, 13:37
Plenty More Fish in the CBD

placidfemme
22nd August 2006, 13:47
Right you boring feckers, this place is as dead as a Hezbollah peace protest so give me your recommendations for a good book to read.

I'm not interested in any cult genres like sci fi, dwarf fantasy shit, vampires etc. Just normal stories that you can actually get into without having to believe that bionic midgets with 8 testicles that drink human blood and fly around in space ships rule the galaxy.

And none of you Mills and Boon crap either Finn, I gotta read this shit in public (on the train).

So, suggestions?

I know I'm a bit late on this topic...

But my personal recommendation would be anything by Wilbur Smith.

Preferably the Ballantyne or Courtney series... all about Africa, starting from the slave ships through to the independance wars (in zimbabwe/rhodesia) all based on the history of one family, his latest book joins the two familys together in egypt or something (I havn't read the latest one).

And the best part about those two series, is even thought they are supposed "fiction" if your from the area (zimbabwe) you know exactly who he is talking about, even though the names are different... gives good reading on adventures and racism (from both sides), war, killing, love and so forth, has a little bit of everything...

I think both series have about 5 books in them...

Lou Girardin
22nd August 2006, 13:51
War and Peace.
Divina Commedia
Bible
Koran
That'll keep you going till your eyes fail.

Street Gerbil
22nd August 2006, 14:01
And if you are after really good classic reading, try this (http://www.lib.ru/BULGAKOW/master97_engl.txt).

boomer
22nd August 2006, 14:10
Dan browns books are pretty good;

da vinci code
angels & demons
deception point
digital fortress


i've read the three back to back and on the last one now; i'm not usually into reading but these have captured my attention and are good for making sure i fall asleep at night :yes:

McJim
22nd August 2006, 14:21
....anything by Wilbur Smith.

Preferably the Ballantyne or Courtney series... all about Africa, starting from the slave ships through to the .....

Yeah, read some of these. Lots of violent deaths and shaggin'.... a bit like Glasgow 'cept there's sunshine in 'em.

Are there any genres your actually keen on? All we know is that you're not interested in 'The adventures of Finn in Space' per your first post but what do you actually like?

WRT
22nd August 2006, 15:05
Dan browns books are pretty good

If you've read one, you've read them all (which I have). Dont believe a word he says, but they do make good entertainment. Deception Point is so full of inaccuracies its not funny, didnt stop me reading the whole thing though.

Someone mentioned Captain Corellis Mandolin earlier on, I can second that. The movie is crap (about as bad as Nicolas Cage's Italian accent), but the book is really good.

I'm also reading A Brief History of the Dead (fiction) at the moment, about a third of the way through and finding it brilliant.

Another good read, as an alternative look at history and evolution is Guns Germs and Steel. Very eye opening.

The_Dover
22nd August 2006, 15:11
I never really pidgeon holed myself in terms of what I do like, just what I don't really like that much.

I've read wizards and goblins and shit and a few spacey, alien zappers but prefer any genre based in the real world I guess.

I enjoyed James Clavell's books, Shogun, Noble House and Taipan. And remember a series when I were a lad about two brothers that used to travel the world catching manimals, can't remember the author.

skelstar
22nd August 2006, 15:15
Actually, that 'Guns Germs and Steel' is very cool. As is 'A Brief History of Time' and Brysons 'A short history of nearly everything' (for the laymans history of sciences) and his Aussie travel book that I thought was called 'Downunder' but might be 'In a Sunburned Country'.

skelstar
22nd August 2006, 15:16
... a series when I were a lad about two brothers that used to travel the world catching manimals, can't remember the author.
That would be the Willard Price books maybe. 'Hal' and ...umm...'Roger' maybe?

'African Adventure', 'Lion adventure' etc...

McJim
22nd August 2006, 15:16
...a lad about two brothers that used to travel the world catching manimals, can't remember the author.

Wouldn't have had titles like "Lion adventure" and "Amazon Advernture" full of anecdotal facts about how it's easier to kill a Jaguar with a trident than to catch the bugger in a cage. Or when you're stuck at night in the middle of the serengeti with an incapacitating wound the Lions from Born Free will appear as if by magic to keep the hyenas off you?

Yeah, I can't remember the name of the author either.....Willard Price...Could see the cover of Lion Adventure in minds eye and it popped up.

There you go. I read those when I was like 12 thought they were great. Read them again when I was 21 and thought they were shite.

You'll probably enjoy the Wilbur Smith stuff then.

The_Dover
22nd August 2006, 15:22
That's the shit. Willard Price.

Nah, I remember thinking even at 12 they were a bit cack but it was the places they visited that caught my attention.

I've wanted to visit Kashmir ever since, the region, not the curry house.

WRT
22nd August 2006, 15:25
Actually, that 'Guns Germs and Steel' is very cool. As is 'A Brief History of Time' and Brysons 'A short history of nearly everything' (for the laymans history of sciences) and his Aussie travel book that I thought was called 'Downunder' but might be 'In a Sunburned Country'.

Havent read a brief history of time, but anything Bryson is fantastic. Good reading, entertaining and informative. And capable of making you laugh out loud.


That would be the Willard Price books maybe. 'Hal' and ...umm...'Roger' maybe?

'African Adventure', 'Lion adventure' etc...

Good as a kid, wouldnt recommend them for adults tho. Kids books that Adults can enjoy include the whole of the Terry Pratchett discworld series. I know you said you dont like fantasy, but these are not your serious type (which I cant stand), they are all about the charactors, and are about the funniest books you could lay your hands on. Written for kids, but with a depth of humour that only adults could fully appreciate. I've probably read about 20 or more of them now, and thoroughly enjoyed them all.

John Banks
22nd August 2006, 15:31
Green Eggs and Ham by Dr Seuss

Fucking fantastic when I was 4, fucking fantastic now.

Swoop
22nd August 2006, 15:33
Chickenhawk (as previous posts say) is quite a good read. Another in the helicopter in 'nam genre is Wings of the Eagle by W.T. Grant.
Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising. = WW3 in europe. Entertaining read.

The_Dover
22nd August 2006, 15:34
I tried to read a terry pratchett book as a kid but found it incredibly boring, I even told him that when he came to my school.

I wonder if they'd fare any better now that I can also do joined up writing and algebra.

WRT
22nd August 2006, 15:37
Dunno, the first one I read was at about age 14, 15. Found it funny then, and wondered even then at how many of the jokes would go over kids heads.

Note - I have also tried some of his non-discworld novels, utter crap unfortunately.

Crisis management
22nd August 2006, 15:43
I think the Prat part of his surname gives it away, total waste of tree trunks producing those.

WRT
22nd August 2006, 15:50
As mentioned, most of the humor would be missed except by adults! :dodge:

McJim
22nd August 2006, 15:58
I tried to read a terry pratchett book as a kid but found it incredibly boring, I even told him that when he came to my school.


Read the ones about the City Watch - they're the funniest.

Sniper
22nd August 2006, 16:10
Matthew Reilly or Lee Child dude

The_Dover
22nd August 2006, 16:14
Matthew Reilly or Lee Child dude

Are they like the gay mills and boon sniper?

Maverick
22nd August 2006, 16:16
Tom Clancy: Rainbow Six, Very good book about a global counter terrorism team. I very highly reccomend it.

Sniper
22nd August 2006, 16:17
Are they like the gay mills and boon sniper?

Never heard of those, but those are a couple of good authors if you are serious about reading. If you have a problem with illiteracy, write to me today for free help.

mazz1972
22nd August 2006, 16:20
But my personal recommendation would be anything by Wilbur Smith.

Preferably the Ballantyne or Courtney series... all about Africa, starting from the slave ships through to the independance wars (in zimbabwe/rhodesia) all based on the history of one family, his latest book joins the two familys together in egypt or something (I haven't read the latest one).

And the best part about those two series, is even thought they are supposed "fiction" if your from the area (zimbabwe) you know exactly who he is talking about, even though the names are different... gives good reading on adventures and racism (from both sides), war, killing, love and so forth, has a little bit of everything...

I think both series have about 5 books in them...

I'm with you there placid, I have most WS books and absolutely love em. Highly recommended good ole adventure stories :yes:

mazz1972
22nd August 2006, 16:25
I tried to read a terry pratchett book as a kid but found it incredibly boring, I even told him that when he came to my school.

I wonder if they'd fare any better now that I can also do joined up writing and algebra.

I have a friend who adores Pratchett, but I just can't get into them. Too many characters, and quite frankly I don't get the humour. Read two but nahhhh.

Bryce Courtenay is always good reading, not too heavy. You'll probably laugh and roll your eyes but the Harry Potters are great reading even for adults, so cleverly written and way better than the movies.

McJim
22nd August 2006, 16:46
Hammond Innes - the Land God Gave to Cain - it's actually an inadvertent adventure in Labrador...loads of wind, rain, ice, death by hypothermia etc....a bit like your homeland in fact.

dawnrazor
22nd August 2006, 17:10
The Big Bang by Simon Singh...Bloody good read, you feel like you could have a chat with an astro physicist afterwards about the origins of the world and all that gubbins, keeps it real for us mortals.

Carter Beats The Devil by Glen David Gold...Good work of fiction about a 1920's magician, who cheats death and rides a BMW, I might reread this actually its been awhile.

I, Lucifer by Glen Duncan... Lucifer is given a month in a mortal body before God closes down the whole show for good. Spends the month abusing his body beyond belief...very very funny...spends the first day wanking in the bath!!!! Have read this 4 times now.

A Long Long Way by Sebastion Barry (sic) WW1 and the Irish soilders who fought on Englands side in europe, while the uprising and civil war sparked off at home, a vividly honest view on a little exposed area of WW1. Might be of interest to a Scotsman. I enjoyed it, but then again the history is a little closer to home for me.

SuperDave
22nd August 2006, 17:58
A Clockwork Orange by Stanley Kubrick, hard work but well worth the read


Please get it right, Kubrick did not write the book, Anthony Burgess did. His film however of the same name was based on the book, though with quite a different ending.
Dover I too would recommend this book.

Would also recommend Chuck Palahniuck, he is responsible for the book Fight Club that was later made into the film of the same name by Fincher. Fincher kept true to the book very well but again, just like A Clockwork Orange the endings between the two differ.

I've also read Choke by him which was also a great read, I really enjoy the way he writes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Palahniuck For a list of his books and a better explanation of his writing style which I think you would like.

MikeyG
22nd August 2006, 18:27
If you want something challenging try either Iliad or Odyssey by Homer or Beowulf.

dawnrazor
22nd August 2006, 18:49
If you want something challenging try either Iliad or Odyssey by Homer or Beowulf.

Jez I wouldn't want to get on your bad side if thats the way you treat your mates!

The Pastor
22nd August 2006, 19:37
Right you boring feckers, this place is as dead as a Hezbollah peace protest so give me your recommendations for a good book to read.

I'm not interested in any cult genres like sci fi, dwarf fantasy shit, vampires etc. Just normal stories that you can actually get into without having to believe that bionic midgets with 8 testicles that drink human blood and fly around in space ships rule the galaxy.

And none of you Mills and Boon crap either Finn, I gotta read this shit in public (on the train).

So, suggestions?

Dover you sick son of a monkeys anus.

Reading is for the noobs, We now have tv and the intra net. Stop pretending to be "intelligent" If you were that way inclined you would know of some books that are worthwile to read.

Just Save your breath...You'll need it to blow up your date.

Oakie
22nd August 2006, 19:49
If you're into techno-thrillers, read anything by Tom Clancy ... but not the ones he co-authored with other writers. The co-authored ones are OK but I rate them far behind the books with just His name on them.
If you like lawyer type stories, you can't go past John Grisham.
For easy to read adventure stories Clive Cussler is OK
For easy to read crime stories, try Dick Francis.

andrea
22nd August 2006, 20:15
wangdoo you can too the complete book on proper care and maintenance of your didgeridoo. comes with an instruction book so you can teach your female:devil2: friends how to play your didgeridoo, or your male friends:mellow:
eg proper way = :tugger: and wrong way = :kick: and experimental = :buggerd:,
iver never read this book but ive heard some really good feedback from mark

Squeak the Rat
23rd August 2006, 08:15
I've also read Choke by him which was also a great read, I really enjoy the way he writes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Palahniuck For a list of his books and a better explanation of his writing style which I think you would like.Good call.

DOVER - I think you would seriously like this author. Choke is a good start.... Nihilistic & funny.

The_Dover
23rd August 2006, 09:04
Good call.

DOVER - I think you would seriously like this author. Choke is a good start.... Nihilistic & funny.

I think you're right there squeak.


there are those who claim his novels also contain sexist or chauvinistic statements.

McJim
23rd August 2006, 09:09
I think this is a very interesting thread - you can tell a lot about people from their choice of reading matter - in the main we would seem to be a bunch of quite literate, articulate and well educated individuals. Not the profile of 'Bikers' the wider media would have us believe. Especially those that assume we are all part of some gang or other because we eschew the use of four wheels.

I have my suspicions that this may have been Dover's plan all along coz this has to be the least hijacked thread I've found so far......

terbang
23rd August 2006, 09:14
The best of New Zealand fiction (Vol 2) Edited by fiona Kidman.
Compilation of short stories by either NZ writers or NZ themes. Bloody good reading, I especially liked the "Rangatira" story.

Finn
23rd August 2006, 09:15
I have my suspicions that this may have been Dover's plan all along coz this has to be the least hijacked thread I've found so far......

That's because the site hijacker started the thread.

terbang
23rd August 2006, 09:21
If you fall off yer bike and spend 6 months in bed then "The Rise and fall of the Third Reich" William Shirer, will probably keep you busy.

Another really interesting read is Longitude by Dava Sobel.

The_Dover
23rd August 2006, 09:24
Wot you talking bout willis?

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Dangerous Dane
23rd August 2006, 09:43
I'd have to reccomend the "Chopper" series by Mark "Chopper" Read.
Good for a lighthearted read from a guy who's not some stupid ponce into fairies and dragons. All stories about his time as a gunman in the Melbourne underworld in the mid 80's. He also wrote a few fiction books about that time too.

Good value.

Beemer
23rd August 2006, 10:04
I agree with Oakie, the John Grisham books are a good read. Another author I discovered a few years ago is Mark Billingham - a London-based author who also does stand-up comedy. I've read all but his latest (waiting for the time to devote several days to it in one go!) and I loved the lot - look out for Sleepyhead; Scaredy Cat; Lazybones; The Burning Girl; Lifeless - and the latest, which is called Buried. They are very similar to Ian Rankin's books - which are also great - just finished Fleshmarket Close and will work my way through his older ones too.

Craig Thomas (Firefox, Jade Tiger, etc) is another good writer - secret service/war type stories. I used to love Sidney Sheldon too - the male version of bodice rippers!

Anthony Bourdain (the cook from the tv series) has written some good books too, all about his life as a chef. Very dark! Look out for A Cook's Tour; Kitchen Confidential and his latest, The Nasty Bits. Toast, by Nigel Slater, is also very good.

I enjoyed The Sixth Lamentation too, by William Broderick.

Winston001
23rd August 2006, 13:44
Ship of Gold in the Deep Blue Sea - Gary Kinder. A cracker of a true story about a deep sea treasure hunt.

Also - A Short History of Nearly Everything - Bill Bryson. Agree with other posters, this is an excellent book.

mikey
23rd August 2006, 13:47
you (and finn) should mike kings hostory of nz, penguin. the dead historian, not the pork selling/gameshow jockey

unless you already have, if you have. read it again.

tomthepohm
23rd August 2006, 13:48
There is off course THE BOOK, you could read Dover, but i am not sure your brain would get round it.

The_Dover
23rd August 2006, 13:59
There is off course THE BOOK, you could read Dover, but i am not sure your brain would get round it.

shut up roofer boy, maybe you should branch out in to fencing too?

if you're referring to the bible, I've read it, but like I said in my first post I like my fiction to at least be plausible.

judecatmad
23rd August 2006, 15:12
Please get it right, Kubrick did not write the book, Anthony Burgess did. His film however of the same name was based on the book, though with quite a different ending.
Dover I too would recommend this book.


You know, I knew it didn't sound right when I typed it....was having a blonde day yesterday, clearly!! :doh: :stupid:

Never seen the movie - I hear it's rather good, but don't want it to spoil what I have in my head from the book.

I'd definitely agree with the other posts which recommend Bill Bryson's stuff - a bloody good author and very funny. :niceone:

McJim
23rd August 2006, 15:31
if you're referring to the bible, I've read it, but like I said in my first post I like my fiction to at least be plausible.

First half is apocryphal...second half is merely wildly exagerated.

But then that's just an opinion.

Brett
23rd August 2006, 17:43
Well, there are always the classics if you haven't read them yet...
Or The Power of One...assume you have read that though,
Bryce COurteneys Whitethorn
Stephen King's range
To Kill a Mockingbird if you are into that sort of thing
A fortuanate life - A really interesting Autobiography of a bloke in Australia in the early 1900's and his life ) I cant remember the guys name tho...sorry.
Wilbur Smith writes a good load of novels
The great Gatsby is an interesting view of America in the 1920's, a bit wanky though...lots of symblosim and crap
The Rich Dad Poor Dad series:shit:
I have a whole pile at home, will see what i have read recently that is any good.

Finn
23rd August 2006, 17:44
Okay, I've just figured out Dover is being serious.

I've just finished The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark Haddon. Apart from being hilarious, it's a fascinating insight into the autistic mind.

Read it, then you may just understand me a little better.

Big Dave
23rd August 2006, 18:32
Okay, I've just figured out Dover is being serious.

I've just finished The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark Haddon.

Reminds me - I saw a fascinating sub plot in 'Go Dog Go' By Dr Seuss the other day too. It's all about hats.

The_Dover
23rd August 2006, 18:51
This is why i need a fuckin book. It took me forty minutes to write this on my 3g skodafone. Progress my arse.

tomthepohm
23rd August 2006, 18:56
The amount of crap you write on this site Dover you could have written your own book.

McJim
23rd August 2006, 19:10
Reminds me - I saw a fascinating sub plot in 'Go Dog Go' By Dr Seuss the other day too. It's all about hats.

I like it, I like that party hat!

Hitcher
23rd August 2006, 19:36
First half is apocryphal...second half is merely wildly exagerated.

But then that's just an opinion.

Do I have a thread for you! (Mention not its name)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=3026

The_Dover
23rd August 2006, 19:38
The amount of crap you write on this site Dover you could have written your own book.

it'd be a fuckin best seller

Big Dave
23rd August 2006, 20:04
it'd be a fuckin best seller

what would you call it?

The_Dover
23rd August 2006, 20:22
what would you call it?

you know what dave, i haven't even thought about it.

any suggestions?

Hitcher
23rd August 2006, 20:23
it'd be a fuckin best seller

I suspect you may well be right. Have a crack at a short story when you get a moment. I know you wouldn't be embarrassed to post it...

SuperDave
23rd August 2006, 20:34
Never seen the movie - I hear it's rather good, but don't want it to spoil what I have in my head from the book.


The movie is great, so is all of Kubrick's films IMO.
Though personally I prefer the ending that is found in the book, it's the better of the two. The film is pretty much the book with moving pictures and is pretty much exaclty the same, bar the ending. Chapter 21 of the book is basically not featured in the film.

Big Dave
23rd August 2006, 20:37
you know what dave, i haven't even thought about it.

any suggestions?


'Joy of Sarcasm'

google 'dover titles' - you already have works in floral designs and mathematics out there I see.

Hitcher
23rd August 2006, 20:39
you know what dave, i haven't even thought about it.

any suggestions?

"Who are you calling an arse, arse?"

The_Dover
23rd August 2006, 20:42
joy of sarcasm could be a goer.

hitler, you gotta try harder.

Swoop
23rd August 2006, 21:27
No matter what, "never judge a book by it's movie"...:yes:

Big Dave
23rd August 2006, 22:06
joy of sarcasm could be a goer.

hitler, you gotta try harder.


Jingle and soundtrack - words need a massage obviously - bluebirds become blackbirds etc etc - but i see the campaign roll out from here:
http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/lyrics/whitecliffs.htm

soundtrack is gold! i tells yas - turn it up!

ogr1
24th August 2006, 07:24
The irony is that we need a link to find a book, we need the book to find the clit.

I think if women want us blokes to find it they should just put it on our face.


There are no books about the cl*t, like the G-spot it's pure fiction :laugh:

tomthepohm
24th August 2006, 08:08
You could call it a day in the life of the Dover. Not too sure it will be a best seller though mate...

Winston001
24th August 2006, 15:54
Clockwork Orange

Never seen the movie - I hear it's rather good, but don't want it to spoil what I have in my head from the book.


Personally it is one of my favourite movies. Got an album of the soundtrack. The book is good - must reread it.

Endorse Brett - "A Fortunate Life" by AB Facey is a fascinating book.

moko
24th August 2006, 16:08
Birdsong by Sebastian Faulkes is brilliant.If you`re into crime all of the Ian Rankin "Rebus" books are great,best to find out what order they were written and go through the list,they start off as good and just get better and better with each new book.Mark Billingham`s crime stories are likewise excellent,again best read in order.I`m currently reading "Shadow of the Wind" by Carlos Ruiz Zavon,it was in the Spanish best-seller lists for 2 years before the translation took off over here.I`m enjoying it because it`s quirky,still not sure how you`d classify it or how it`s going to pan out.Some really funny jokes thrown in,a touch of the supernatural,humour,sex and a plot that weaves all over the place,most of the characters are not what they seem at first,massively popular here,takes a little while to grip you but I`m engrossed right now.

SPORK
24th August 2006, 17:57
Read the Jack Ryan series of books by Tom Clancy. Takes a while to get into them, but then you can't put them down.

Batcerb
24th August 2006, 20:27
"Dont tell mum i work on the rigs, she thinks i'm a piano player in a whorehouse"
By Paul Carter.

Tis a fairly short book, but pretty good :D