50kms Over The Legal Limit!

[Zed]

A lady biker I have the pleasure of working with was driving her cage this morning in Auckland City. Whilst cruising along one of the main roads to get on to the motorway she exceeded the 50km speed limit by approx. 50kms, wasn't wearing her seatbelt, and get this...passed a marked HP car at the same time! :spudwave:

He pulls her over and she plays dumb and pleads ignorance. He asks to see her license and discovers that she is driving on a South African license...

Can you finish the story? :spudwhat:

[Cajun]

bye bye car, hope she likes the bus

well should do, other wise the law is bollocks

[FzerozeroT]

She had a nice rack and so her and the HP are meeting for dinner on friday.

[Andrew]

Gets a fine for something like $400 and doesn't loose her license.

[merv]

Well she's good looking and he says "welcome to our country ma'am - you just take it easy and have a nice day (once he has all her details of course).

[Hitcher]

She is expecting PC Plod's love child?

[Ghost Lemur]

Gets let off with a warning, coz lets face it SA chicks are hawt (not biased just coz better half is South African).

And lets face it's not like she was doing something really dodgy like riding a bike.

:killingme

[V Twin Raver]

I reckon a bike went by with a slightly cracked tail light going 5km over the speed limit, attracted the cops attention (more so than the rack - cop is gay) and the cop took off after the bike and the biker appears in court next month on charges of endangering other road users?

[Motoracer]

She takes her top off and the cop lets her go?

[Ms Piggy]

She bursts into tears, blames on PMT & her low life partner who left her to clean up on Saturday night after he'd had all 'the boys' over for the rugger and gets off without even getting as waring...in fact the cops is outta there faster than she was travelling illegally down the road, b/c men hate tears & 'womans problems'. :msn-wink:

[Joni]

LOL - sis on you Zed

[Deano]

How about the cop uses their 'discretion', in handling the matter. Funny how most stories I hear of the cop has said his hands are tied.

Must be using their discretion as to when to apply their discretion.

Discreet answer ??

[spudchucka]

Must be using their discretion as to when to apply their discretion.
Thats exactly what discretion is.

[Hitcher]

Thats exactly what discretion is.

Not the better part of valour?

[FROSTY]

ok ok ZED so what did happen then

[vifferman]

ok ok ZED so what did happen then
How long is he going to keep this going..... :spudwhat:

[Big Dog]

Until he has us well and truly teased.
ZED is a thread tease.


*hijack* ZED did you take that picture for your avatar at motorway cruising speed? :killingme *hijack*

[Jackrat]

He booked her for a slightly lesser speed and gave her a time limit to get her licence up to date.
And hurry up an tell us more Zed.

[Al]

LOL - sis on you Zed

Hey Joni, I haven't heard that expression for ages..."sis".... :niceone:
As an ex-SAn, I think she may have taken the HP on and argued her side of the story.... ?

Al

[Zed]

A lady biker I have the pleasure of working with was driving her cage this morning in Auckland City. Whilst cruising along one of the main roads to get on to the motorway she exceeded the 50km speed limit by approx. 50kms, wasn't wearing her seatbelt, and get this...passed a marked HP car at the same time! :spudwave:

He pulls her over and she plays dumb and pleads ignorance. He asks to see her license and discovers that she is driving on a South African license...
...well as it happens he asked her out, she politely declined and then he preceded to seize her license!!!


Lol, nah just kidding...he let her off scott-free with a warning to slow down and buckle up! The SA licence wasn't an issue. Sorry to keep you in suspense for so long.

[Zed]

Until he has us well and truly teased.
ZED is a thread tease.


*hijack* ZED did you take that picture for your avatar at motorway cruising speed? :killingme *hijack*Sheesh it's only been 5 hours BD <_<

Motorway cruising speed yeah...disconnecting my speedo is the only way I can keep my mileage down :bleh:

[Motoracer]

...well as it happens he asked her out, she politely declined and then he preceded to seize her license!!!


Lol, nah just kidding...he let her off scott-free with a warning to slow down and buckle up! The SA licence wasn't an issue. Sorry to keep you in suspense for so long.

So how good looking is this Joni gal? :msn-wink:

[Zed]

Well she's good looking and he says "welcome to our country ma'am - you just take it easy and have a nice day (once he has all her details of course).
Top marks!! :niceone:

[Zed]

Gets let off with a warning, coz lets face it SA chicks are hawt (not biased just coz better half is South African).

And lets face it's not like she was doing something really dodgy like riding a bike.

:killingme
Top marks!! :niceone:

[Deano]

Thats exactly what discretion is.

Judging by the outcome, would you say the officer's discretion was good judgement there Spud ? :msn-wink: :msn-wink: :spudwhat:

[dangerous]

...well as it happens he asked her out, she politely declined and then he preceded to seize her license!!!


Lol, nah just kidding...he let her off scott-free with a warning to slow down and buckle up! The SA licence wasn't an issue. Sorry to keep you in suspense for so long.

And here I was thinking you were about to say that God sudenly apaired after Scotty teleported him down from the space ship........................ :msn-wink:

[spudchucka]

Judging by the outcome, would you say the officer's discretion was good judgement there Spud ? :msn-wink: :msn-wink: :spudwhat:
Wasn't there, couldn't possibly comment. :apint:

[Deano]

Wasn't there, couldn't possibly comment. :apint:

True, but on the face of the information given, I reckon its pretty rank. I wouldn't have thought ignorance was a valid defence for doing twice the speed limit. Surely she knew there was such a thing as a speed limit - she must be 'prepared to kill' or perhaps doesn't watch TV.

I wonder if a young guy from Europe travelling on the motorway in his BMW doing 180kmh would be let off with a warning because he thought it was an Autobahn ?

It is perhaps sometimes a fact of life that a beautiful woman can flash her eyelashes (or more if well endowed) and get off scot free, but I still think it sucks (or maybe the woman does ?)

[scumdog]

I doubt the veracity of the whole story - unless Zed was the driver involved, was in drag and looking like a S.A. doll in which case "hawt" was nawt the description I would have thawt of!! :eek5:

[Bandito]

...well as it happens he asked her out, she politely declined and then he preceded to seize her license!!!


Lol, nah just kidding...he let her off scott-free with a warning to slow down and buckle up! The SA licence wasn't an issue. Sorry to keep you in suspense for so long.

And they wonder why they have no credibility with the largley law abiding public. :argh:

[Zed]

I doubt the veracity of the whole story
The story came "straight from the horses mouth" scumdog. I have no reason to doubt her word.

[Zed]

And they wonder why they have no credibility with the largley law abiding public. :argh:
O well...I say count your blessings!

Can you count how many times you have been let off a ticket when you didn't deserve to?

[FROSTY]

LOL - sis on you Zed
do i suspect maybee Joni has another version of this story???

[marty]

there are stories on this forum of guys who have been let off ridiculous speeds. come on everyone. one minute you're bitching cause the cops have zero tolerance, then next you're saying that they should write people up! talk about a bunch of fucking fence sitting bleaters

[spudchucka]

I wouldn't have thought ignorance was a valid defence for doing twice the speed limit.
Absolutely not and the cop that dealt with her will have to stand behind his decision. Can't really comment without ALL the facts.

As a side note it has been noted in many law enforcement agencies around the world that the number of warnings issued for traffic matters has declined since more women have taken on the role as front line police officers. Eye lashes and big bouncy boobs have less of an influence in the outcomes I guess.

[merv]

I'm OK with this story because it proves to me that the cops can use some discretion. If the cop decided that in the circumstances that no real harm was done then good on him.

I just wish more would use their thinking caps (or were allowed to) as one size doesn't fit all in relation to speed. That's what most of us harp on about. On a wide open road clear of any side features (trees or whatever) where you can see for kilometres and there is no chance of any dickheads inadvertently getting in your way then 100km/hr is not a sensible speed limit, whereas 150km/hr may well be. A case in point would be any of the multi-lane motorways in quiet times where there are no cross intersections.

At rush (or is that snail) hour a sensible speed limit may well be 80km/hr, but then that is usually self policing because of the crowd. I used to laugh every time I drove down Ngauranga Gorge and the multi-million dollar signs were reading 60 instead of 80 and I look down at the speedo and I'm doing 50 at best. Who needs a friggin speed limit most of the time anyway.

I'm sure you Jafas would love a 50 sign lit up or equivalent through spaghetti when you clutching along at about 0 - 2.5km/hr (sounds like an inflation rate huh!).

As for the chick if she was able to do 100 in a 50 zone it must have been quite a clear road and can't have been dangerous otherwise I am sure the cop would have been concerned no matter how good looking she is.

[Ghost Lemur]

I'm OK with this story because it proves to me that the cops can use some discretion. If the cop decided that in the circumstances that no real harm was done then good on him.

I just wish more would use their thinking caps (or were allowed to) as one size doesn't fit all in relation to speed. That's what most of us harp on about. On a wide open road clear of any side features (trees or whatever) where you can see for kilometres and there is no chance of any dickheads inadvertently getting in your way then 100km/hr is not a sensible speed limit, whereas 150km/hr may well be. A case in point would be any of the multi-lane motorways in quiet times where there are no cross intersections.

At rush (or is that snail) hour a sensible speed limit may well be 80km/hr, but then that is usually self policing because of the crowd. I used to laugh every time I drove down Ngauranga Gorge and the multi-million dollar signs were reading 60 instead of 80 and I look down at the speedo and I'm doing 50 at best. Who needs a friggin speed limit most of the time anyway.

I'm sure you Jafas would love a 50 sign lit up or equivalent through spaghetti when you clutching along at about 0 - 2.5km/hr (sounds like an inflation rate huh!).

As for the chick if she was able to do 100 in a 50 zone it must have been quite a clear road and can't have been dangerous otherwise I am sure the cop would have been concerned no matter how good looking she is.


Well said merv. I couldn't agree more. It is unfortunate common sense seems to be getting thrown out the window in our society in order to cater to the lowest common denominator.

[marty]

hey i know - maybe she was an off duty officer.....maybe she was his cousin.....maybe she was his sister.....maybe she was his mother.....maybe she was his girlfriend.....maybe she was his ex-girlfiend.....maybe she was just really nice to him.....maybe he already had earner his toaster for the day....maybe he didn't have his radar on and didn't see the seatbelt offence....maybe he just coldn't be fucked writing a ticket.....maybe he is a KBer.....

who really gives a rats? we should be thanking her for 1. keeping a HP car off the road for 30 minutes and 2. congratulating her for getting away with it.


AAAARRRRGGGHHHH

[merv]

we should be thanking her for 1. keeping a HP car off the road for 30 minutes

Zed you didn't tell us it took 30 minutes - she must have been in a Mini because they advertise they have enough room for that sort of thing.

[vifferman]

I'm sure you Jafas would love a 50 sign lit up or equivalent through spaghetti when you clutching along at about 0 - 2.5km/hr (sounds like an inflation rate huh!).
Well, acksherly, we DO have signs here like that. I dunno that your average D'Aucklander can read though, as the speed on the sign and that which people are travelling at seem to be quite different.
Same with the information signs, saying "Lane closed 400m ahead" then "200m" and "100m"; I've seen lots of people just carry on in their lanes, ignore all the signs, then change lanes just as they're about to crash into the cones. F'ing blind AND stupid, y'know.
They don't actually need speed signs though. All it takes is something out of the ordinary, and everyone slows WAAAYY down to rubberneck. Sometimes they're like sheep that jump over an invisible obstacle on the path one after the other, and everyone slows down for some imaginary problem, then speeds up again. Strange herd behaviour.... :brick:

[scumdog]

Warnings - never tell 'em the speed, it'l bite you in the bum when somebody else get pulled over at a similar speed (and most likely totally different circumstances) and knows about the other guy getting off for that speed, the verbal flack can be deafening and no explanation will make them see you point. :brick: (or so I have been told)

'Course you Jaffas don't have that worry as theres a good chance everybody is a stranger to everybody else :eyepoke:

[MD]

Well said Merv. Good to see discretion in play. This reinforces my belief that the most powerful force nature unleashed on the planet was curvy woman with cleavage. Shit it works on me everytime. Its got me thinking. Don't buy a radar detector, go for breast implants. Just not sure if a bloke with hairy boobs will work. I could get a lady shave as well? But then my riding gear wont fit, confused confused.

[Aucker]

there are stories on this forum of guys who have been let off ridiculous speeds. come on everyone. one minute you're bitching cause the cops have zero tolerance, then next you're saying that they should write people up! talk about a bunch of fucking fence sitting bleaters
good on the chick for getting off, but it should be compulsory for the police to give out a ticket in this case i reckon! :angry:

[pete376403]

When I got stopped in Featherston (in the van) at 63km/hr the (female) cop told me that the "discretion" could only be used if the speed was within 10% of the limit. I might have talked my way out of it if the cop had been male, but as I posted here once before, females doing a job that was previously predominantly a male role (cops, customs officers, etc) seem to have a =n attitude problem that they need to be seen as being tougher/harder than a male would in the same circumstances. Spuds posting that warning have dropped since female cops became more common would tend to bear this out.

[Deano]

there are stories on this forum of guys who have been let off ridiculous speeds. come on everyone. one minute you're bitching cause the cops have zero tolerance, then next you're saying that they should write people up! talk about a bunch of fucking fence sitting bleaters

Just a bit of consistency is all I ask for.

[Bandito]

O well...I say count your blessings!

Can you count how many times you have been let off a ticket when you didn't deserve to?

I think you have missed the point, this women has been given a reprieve on a far more serious set of offences when you or I would likely to be booked for much less serious infrigements-There lies the credibility problem. :argh:

[Big Dog]

I thank my luckies every time I have been pulled.
The only tickets I have ever had from a human came by post (parking tickets / speed cameras), or rookies at the drive through window (compulsory reg / wof checks).

I have been pulled for license shredding speeds but lucky for me they have always either
a) accepted my explanation.
b) not accepted my explanation but let me off with a warning.

Why? IMHO it is because I rarely speed when other people are likely to be about, and I observe lane ettiquette and other laws, rules etc.

But more importantly I am polite about it, and genuinely upset, but not about getting pulled as "they are just doing their job".

I even got away with "Shit, your kidding me! I'll get the speedo cable looked at when the bike shop opens monday." select a gear, shake officers hand and thank him profusely and ask him to set me a pace to measure agianst my rev counter for 50 then 100. He did. :niceone:

[merv]

good on the chick for getting off, but it should be compulsory for the police to give out a ticket in this case i reckon! :angry:

Couldn't agree with you - discretion is about it not being compulsory and that circumstances, and thought on the part of the cop, should prevail.

As a point I have spent quite a few times in USA (never ridden a bike there though) and have driven a lot over there. Probably how the SA chick felt in strange circumstances things take a bit of getting used to.

I was pulled up by a cop on a nasty wet night at Rosemont near O'Hare airport Chicago because he said I went through a red light. They have at most turns the right turn on red option - they are a stop and then proceed action. If it doesn't apply its signposted "No right turn on red". In this case I come to the intersection and its one of those wide multi-lane jobs with a slip lane to turn right (i.e. with a little triangle of median at the corner etc). The other problem is they have a habit of only having their lights suspended above the main central part of the intersection. Here we put an extra light pole on any of those side lane type bits. Anyway, I stop at the red as you have to do and look around - as I said nasty wet night - I'm blowed if I can see the sign so I think well OK off we go now as nothing is coming. On go the disco lights within seconds. Where the hell he came from I never saw. He talks to me, finds I'm a Kiwi about 300m from my hotel. I explain how I took care, couldn't see the sign etc. He says "yeah I saw you stopped" etc etc. He used his discretion then - some foreign dick caught out by local peculiarities etc and said "take care, y'all have a nice night" kinda thing.

I appreciated being cut some slack in such circumstances and if that had been a compulsory ticket situation I would have been pissed off.

I am sure the same applies here, one size does not fit all. Safety is the key thing that the cops should have in mind and they should make their minds up based on circumstances, not rely on black and white law. That is my view.

I ride and drive with safety in mind, not the speed limit.

[vifferman]

Safety is the key thing that the cops should have in mind and they should make their minds up based on circumstances, not rely on black and white law. That is my view.

I ride and drive with safety in mind, not the speed limit.
Too right, Merv. The laws are there purely for safety reasons, so enforcing them should also be done with that as a guiding principle.

[wkid_one]

there are stories on this forum of guys who have been let off ridiculous speeds. come on everyone. one minute you're bitching cause the cops have zero tolerance, then next you're saying that they should write people up! talk about a bunch of fucking fence sitting bleaters
Well said Marty

[scumdog]

I think you have missed the point, this women has been given a reprieve on a far more serious set of offences when you or I would likely to be booked for much less serious infrigements-There lies the credibility problem. :argh:

I agree, cannot see a rational explanation for this woman NOT getting a speeding ticket, - especially in light of the constant tirade from those that have been issued tickets for an awful lot less.

It blows the credibility of other officers out the water, how can people say in .... I give up trying to explain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( obviously I ain't had enough black label yet!! :weep:

[pete376403]

[color=navy]There is more to the story than I stipulated, but I havn't had permission to mention those things.

I guess I wanted to drive home the fact that someone has been let off such an high infringment.

Btw, the lady concerned is sorry for her actions!


Zed
Ah, so there is more to the story, yet you wanted to get peoples opinions without giving all the facts? She was in labour at the time and about to give birth? Maybe the cop was fully justified in letting her go as he knew the whole story.

[Firefight]

Well myself and a number of others from this site have had some pretty good let offs from Mr :Police: So I don't have a problem with this story, and have no reason to doubt it.

F/F :crazy:

[Bandito]

I agree, cannot see a rational explanation for this woman NOT getting a speeding ticket, - especially in light of the constant tirade from those that have been issued tickets for an awful lot less.

It blows the credibility of other officers out the water, how can people say in .... I give up trying to explain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( obviously I ain't had enough black label yet!! :weep:

Yeah scumdog you make the point better than i did. So next time one of us get pulled over for doing a poultry 11km over the speed limit and are told by constable plod that he or she has " no choice but to book you" we know full and well they are LYING.

[Zed]

Ah, so there is more to the story, yet you wanted to get peoples opinions without giving all the facts?:doh: you're an assuming granny pete!

The facts I gave you all were sufficient to tell the full story, anything not mentioned was of a more personal nature and had no bearing on the outcome...

[pete376403]

You said "There is more to the story than I stipulated, but I havn't had permission to mention those things" implying that there were more details that had a bearing on the outcome. If not relevant, why mention it at all?

[Slim]

They don't actually need speed signs though. All it takes is something out of the ordinary, and everyone slows WAAAYY down to rubberneck.
Like a slight corner, ffs! :crazy:

I've seen someone let of 52kph over the speed limit through roadworks on the Gordonton Road, so Zed's story doesn't surprise me at all, and I'm not perterbed by it either.

She possibly should have got a ticket for no seatbelt, but if he didn't spot it (which I find surprising), he didn't spot it.



On another note: what the hell was with the 30kph signs on SH1 south of Karapiro Mobil this morning??? The cops were having a field day, and I came across absolutely no reason for the signs to be out, especially for such a distance, at all!!!

They wouldn't have put them out just to slow down the Field Days Traffic ... would they??? :sneaky2:

[Zed]

You said "There is more to the story than I stipulated, but I havn't had permission to mention those things" implying that there were more details that had a bearing on the outcome. If not relevant, why mention it at all?
Whatever pete, I didn't think anyone would be so exacting!

Have edited the post just for you...:thud:

[pete376403]

Whatever pete, I didn't think anyone would be so exacting!

Have edited the post just for you...:thud:


The devil is in the details ;)

[DEATH_INC.]

I've gotten away with wheelying past a cop at well over 100kph :whistle: twice now,though the last one did flick his lights on breifly,and gave the finger :finger: to those following me,so there is still some discetion being shown I guess.
I think you guys are being a bit unfair judging this guy,unless you were there to know all the circumstances.

[marty]

They wouldn't have put them out just to slow down the Field Days Traffic ... would they??? :sneaky2:

they could have slim - i attended about a dozen nose to tails right down near gorton road one year, the traffic was backed up so far. i had to drive on the wrong side of the road all the way into cambridge to try and free up the shakespeare intersection - the problem was caused by northbound people turning left off SH1 onto shakespeare having to give way to southbound people turning right, and because EVERYONE southbound was turning right, it only took 5 minutes to create a 5km tail. it really is a shambles at fieldays time - try 90 minutes to get from matangi to the airport. bring your bike if you're coming down...

[Slim]

they could have slim
Really, truly??? They can do this??? :shit:

The first 30kph sign was halfway up a passing lane for christs sake! With no warning sign prior and no shutting down of the passing lane with cones as they tend to do on the Kaimai's, which is completely sensible. This was the Karapiro Boat Landing passing lanes I think, and the 100kph sign didn't appear till just before Mobil Karapiro (all this is North bound, btw).

There was no reason for the signs (ie roadworks or road marking signs or whatever), there were no trucks or people or surveyors the entire length of the speed restriction.

If it was for slowing down traffic, why would it end before Mobil Karapiro?

[Joni]

you people are strange - such a huge conversation on one specific occurance which we all know happens more than just that once!!!

[FzerozeroT]

officers discretion is fine, IF they are allowed to use it, gotta feel sorry for the HP who get orders for "$1000 an hour" even if they don't feel like pulling someone over for 111kph on the motorway with no traffic it's a case of, "well, it is against the law, and i don't want to lose my job".

[spudchucka]

I've gotten away with wheelying past a cop at well over 100kph :whistle: twice now,though the last one did flick his lights on breifly,and gave the finger :finger: to those following me,so there is still some discetion being shown I guess.
I think you guys are being a bit unfair judging this guy,unless you were there to know all the circumstances.
I don't think that was discretion!! More likely it was the cold hard realisation that he probably had no chance of catching up to you even if he wanted to.

[marty]

Speeding driver claims he was 'blow-drying' his car

15.06.2004 8.12 am


A man caught driving at more than 120km/h in a 50km/h zone claimed he was trying to blow-dry his car, Whangarei District Court was told.

Roger Edward Daniel, 37, a dredgemaster of Whangarei, was fined $300 and disqualified him from driving for six months after he pleaded guilty to dangerous driving.

When stopped by police last Sunday he told officers he had just washed his car and was trying to dry it off.

"I have a bad back and just thought I would do that (drive at speed) to dry the car instead of having to chamois it dry," Daniel said in court.

"I was looking at the water on my bonnet as I was picking up speed, but I backed off when I realised how fast I was going."

He said there were no other vehicles or people on the road at the time.

- NORTHERN ADVOCATE (WHANGAREI)

[Slim]

"I was looking at the water on my bonnet as I was picking up speed, but I backed off when I realised how fast I was going."
Oh, that's just class, that is! <_<

He deserves the ban if he admits to watching the bonnet instead of the road, especially in a 50kph area!

Remember the guy who got cleaned out on his brand, spanking new TL1000 in Dinsdale, Marty? I believe he might be walking now, but he was doing well over 100kph in a 50kph zone & had a c@r turn in front of him simply because he wasn't there when she checked for traffic.

50kph zones are also called residential areas for a fairly obvious reason. :2guns: