Any car people on here ?

[98tls]

Been thinking awhile about buying either a XR6 or SS commodore for a while..cant afford new and am looking to spend $20,000.been trolling the net/auto trader etc and have found plenty of BA XR6s with between 60-80000 kms...the commodores seem more expensive in that for the same money you are getting one a few years older....Ute or sedan i really have no preference.....whats the better car anyone know..not really interested in what people think is better but known faults etc would be good....ta

[Swoop]

Been thinking awhile about buying either a XR6 or SS commodore....ta

If you buy a fraud you will need a hat and to drive really slowly in the right hand lane.
Red, not blue, mate!
Seriously.

[Motu]

I'm not a car guy so can't comment on the merits of each - I just work on them for a living....and I make a better living out of Falcons than Commodores.We are just putting an engine back in a Falcon today after fixing a few little oil leaks - I've never even pulled a cyl head off a V6 Commodore,let alone pulled an engine out.

[Lou Girardin]

I thought the dealers would be paying people to take gas guzzlers away.
Tell them gas is going up again, offer them half what they're asking.

[S&S]

We recently purchased a 2001 Holden Commodore S, $22,000 in the yard, managed to pay $19,500 cash, Giltrap Holden. Did a lot of research on the car before we purchased & had a lot of good feed back concerning reliability. Also the fuel consumption is very good. So far the car is problem free & purring like a kitten. Hope that helps

[98tls]

We recently purchased a 2001 Holden Commodore S, $22,000 in the yard, managed to pay $19,500 cash, Giltrap Holden. Did a lot of research on the car before we purchased & had a lot of good feed back concerning reliability. Also the fuel consumption is very good. So far the car is problem free & purring like a kitten. Hope that helps S&S did you look at similar falcons or just the holden...just wondering if you did what swayed you to the holden...to be honest the further into this i go the better the holden seems....the Ford seems to be plauged with mechanical problems which seems strange...i have had a few falcons way back and they were great....been told to stay well away from AU falcons so was trying to get some feedback on the BA.Not to worried about fuel consumption as we have a couple of runabouts for work etc.would love an SS ute but dont mind admitting i like the look of the BA falcon as well.

[ManDownUnder]

I'm not a car guy so can't comment on the merits of each - I just work on them for a living....and I make a better living out of Falcons than Commodores.We are just putting an engine back in a Falcon today after fixing a few little oil leaks - I've never even pulled a cyl head off a V6 Commodore,let alone pulled an engine out.

I think that kinda sums it up for me...

[S&S]

We honestly weren't fused about weather we purchased a Holden or Ford. We considered both the cars but stories kept coming back about small problems with Ford, XR6 to be exact. After driving both cars the Holden just seemed like a nicer, stronger more sporty car. Haven't looked back.

[Bend-it]

Please!! V8 crappiness! Get a Legacy RSB! Power AND control!

[The Pastor]

Fords arnt reliable. We have a ford courier at work (newest truck we own) and its broken down the most out of all of them.

[Dooly]

I've never even pulled a cyl head off a V6 Commodore,let alone pulled an engine out.


I second that. Our place has never done that since the V6 Holdens come out, and we get a shit load of them in.

[Dooly]

The missus has a BA XR6 and it seems ok, nothing has gone wrong with it. Mind you it gets not a lot of use as she has a company car. I had a BA XR6 ute and it was no end of probs especially the brakes. I got sick of it and sold it and now have a Hilux.
I had 2 AUIII Falcons XR8s. One needed the engine to come out at 17k as the motor was knocking so I traded it on the BA. The AU also had 6 CD units as they kept blowing up, as well as untold electric window switches.
The last Holden we had was a VX SS V8 5.7, we brought it new in '01 and it drunk oil, but prior to that the Ecotec V6 from the VS upwards was exceptional.
The dealer told me the were pulling engines all the time doing ring jobs, on the 8s.

[sAsLEX]

Please!! V8 crappiness! Get a Legacy RSB! Power AND control!

Then try to manage to pay both the insurance if you can get it and the fuel costs!

Nice cars but not worth that hassle

[Beemer]

Please!! V8 crappiness! Get a Legacy RSB! Power AND control!

Everyone I know with a Subaru has had heaps of trouble with their car - wouldn't touch one of the older ones, that's for sure!

[Dooly]

Everyone I know with a Subaru has had heaps of trouble with their car - wouldn't touch one of the older ones, that's for sure!


Money pits.

Subarus are good for business.:yes:

[Motu]

I just picked up a 1989 Subaru Omega GT for my daughter - 65,000 original KM.Last time I changed the oil was in 2002,and there is still 1,000km to go.It's as imaculate as you can get an '89 car....the back seat has never been sat in.A good deal for $1,000 I reckon.

They only got $150 for their Commodore after hitting a bank,you can't even sell them for parts....because no one wants parts for Commodore's if they never break down.I shoulda got the motor for my Pajero....

[tomthepohm]

Duuuuuuuuude.

I read up to ZX6 and SS and stopped reading. Dont get eather, do you want everyone to think you are a damn copper???

Lets face it the kiwi idea of a cool car is a family saloon with a big engine. Where's the style, come on all you sheep farmers, this country has been established enough now to have some class, or at least have some idea of aesthetics.

Get an Audi they are mint. Dont wast your money on sad middle aged mans car.

Tom

PS did you know a box standard mini copper S is faster round Puke than a (so called) V8 super car... Would love to know what they would be like if they hadnt banned all the compatition, or maybe thats the point, the Holdens and Fords are no competition....

[boomer]

Wanna buy my 2003 sv8? New tyres, 55k Service last week;Full service history, immaculate condition in Silver.
Fitted extras, reverse minder/or watever its called & tow bar

Pics (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=323)

tOm :shutup:

[Lou Girardin]

I just picked up a 1989 Subaru Omega GT for my daughter the back seat has never been sat in..

She said that?
You believe her?

[tomthepohm]

Bro, ive got a 1987 Jag sat on the back lawn you can have, needs a new head gasket, and 3 windows, but its pretty mint. 3.6 24valve Soverign.

[andrea]

Been thinking awhile about buying either a XR6 or SS commodore for a while..cant afford new and am looking to spend $20,000.been trolling the net/auto trader etc and have found plenty of BA XR6s with between 60-80000 kms...the commodores seem more expensive in that for the same money you are getting one a few years older....Ute or sedan i really have no preference.....whats the better car anyone know..not really interested in what people think is better but known faults etc would be good....ta

i reckon you should try looking at turners auction or something, but there is a place somewhere i think otahuhu or something? where theres an insurance place that sells off repo'ed cars and bikes etc

[98tls]

Duuuuuuuuude.

I read up to ZX6 and SS and stopped reading. Dont get eather, do you want everyone to think you are a damn copper???

Lets face it the kiwi idea of a cool car is a family saloon with a big engine. Where's the style, come on all you sheep farmers, this country has been established enough now to have some class, or at least have some idea of aesthetics.

Get an Audi they are mint. Dont wast your money on sad middle aged mans car.

Tom

PS did you know a box standard mini copper S is faster round Puke than a (so called) V8 super car... Would love to know what they would be like if they hadnt banned all the compatition, or maybe thats the point, the Holdens and Fords are no competition.... Ive got an R32 GTR Skyline in the garage that i have had for 6 years which would leave an SS or XR6 way behind in both power and handling...if you go way back to 89/90 the Skyline made the v8s look pretty stupid at Bathurst but thats not really an issue...am tired of a two door car and then theres the fact that you cant leave it anywere as badges go missing and twice now its been coined by wankers for what reason i dont now.i just want something a bit bigger and remember my V8 days with fondness hence i wouldnt mind a big old lazy 8 or maybe the XR6.whoever said in a previous post about them being for middleaged/old people.....fine as that is exactly what i am....:yes:

[andrea]

oh just forgot i think there will be some sort of hidden costs besides paying the difference on what the previous owners owed, so best to check the cars out with AA. but if you dont wanna try turners or that other place then its probably better to look at car dealers out of auckland, seems to be cheaper.

[tomthepohm]

Right on 98....

[98tls]

Wanna buy my 2003 sv8? New tyres, 55k Service last week;Full service history, immaculate condition in Silver.
Fitted extras, reverse minder/or watever its called & tow bar

Pics (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=323)

tOm :shutup: looks nice boomer....i am still a wee way away yet as i have a guy to buy my skyline but we have an agreed date which is still a wee way off...out of interest whats your commodore worth?

[tomthepohm]

Come on Boomer, be troothful bro...... $5

[The_Dover]

boomer will swap it for a six pack of carlsberg speshul brew and a pack of roll ups

[tomthepohm]

Dont go over board Dover, whats Boomer going to do with all that wealth...

[Finn]

It's as imaculate as you can get an '89 car....the back seat has never been sat in.

So you'd like to think Motu ;)

[The_Dover]

Dont go over board Dover, whats Boomer going to do with all that wealth...

he's got a family to support

he's from sheffield bro, his kids will be on the brew by now

[tomthepohm]

No way, didnt realise he was that low, thought his ears looked a bit funny. Poor bastard, probably doesnt have a clue whats going on most of the time...

Give him the 6 pack mate...

[Motu]

So you'd like to think Motu ;)

For a thousand bucks it doesn't matter.What I'm looking forward to is getting the Lada 2104,but the owner has lost the keys.It's done 39,000km....and the back seat has never been sat in.....Both my daughters are keen to fight over it,they like retro and the younger one has had a Lada before....I got her a Samara for her learner car.But their fella's would freak,one's an Aussie,the other a Yank and they couldn't cope with manual everything.

[Kickaha]

PS did you know a box standard mini copper S is faster round Puke than a (so called) V8 super car..

Have you got some lap times from a reputable source to back that claim up?

[boomer]

You forgot the packet of Kashew nuts...!!! so i can treat the mrs to a speshal romantic night in!!! funny fuckers :yes:

98tls.. the question IS.. whats it worth to you?! it's going on tard me next week; i want 29 for it;

ps.. Dover; your cupboards must be mighty empty by now.. the gixxer still hasn't sold ; Here's a plan, give it to TOm to borrow, make sure he's ensured and you both Win!! Tom rides for another week before he totalls it and you get ya spondoolies via the insurance .. Everyones' a winner baby!!

[98tls]

You forgot the packet of Kashew nuts...!!! so i can treat the mrs to a speshal romantic night in!!! funny fuckers :yes:

98tls.. the question IS.. whats it worth to you?! it's going on tard me next week; i want 29 for it;


nice car but to steep for me mate...i got twenty tops,getting good dough for the skyline but some of it has to go elsewere.....TL mods..:Punk:

[Indiana_Jones]

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-Indy

-Indy

[The_Dover]

ps.. Dover; your cupboards must be mighty empty by now.. the gixxer still hasn't sold ; Here's a plan, give it to TOm to borrow, make sure he's ensured and you both Win!! Tom rides for another week before he totalls it and you get ya spondoolies via the insurance .. Everyones' a winner baby!!

it's not insured for honda riders cos they're not used to the powa

[98tls]

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-Indy Nice pic indy but if i wanted something with no brakes crap suspenders and leaked water like a sieve id buy a Hillman Hunter.........:innocent: then again id get a nice one for 20k i guess.

[dawnrazor]

Car People? - Must be the bastard offspring of boyracers and their beloved rides!

[750Y]

the mrs has had her 5.7 auto wh statesman for about 5 years now, it has over 170k on the clock now & runs.. make that 'purrs' as well as when we got it. the engine is strong & had no issues. serviced every 10. mileage isn't bad either. all the electrics are still working well as are all the other systems on board. only thing was the crappy self levelling rear suspension it had which developed a leak so shocks were replaced with conventional type. long wheel base, it just soaks up the miles & bumps & is super smooth. it's an excellent family holiday car too(especially with the leather interior which is great for wiping off ice creams & lollipops. it can haul ass any time it's called upon which is pretty much everyday the way she drives. we live out of town a bit & the car has been thrashed day in/out down the backroads, potholes roadworks & uneven surface. the paintwork is still good & i was told by a panelshop that the finish was superior to the falcons. it's still holden together really well & i intend to keep it for another 5 years(originally bought it as a 10 year prospect & no regrets so far). good luck in the search..

[dnos]

Theyre both much of sameness don't you think?
Me ma has a BA XR6 and its good to drive, decent power and v. good handling miles better than the AU's. But get a XR6Turbo and i reckon it is incredible fun - autocar voted it best out of all the ford / holdens when first came out. And i tell you they are great fun to drive.
The Holdens are also great to drive and liek i said i think they are bloody similar to each other and can't see what the appeal is to all those die hard fans.

My opinion - I reckon what was said earlier about audis is right, i got an old A4 wagon to go surfing and its brilliant. Expensive parts but sooooo comfortable and it has superb handling :) You should seriously consider something like an audi or merc but dunno about bmw.

I guess it comes down to what you are looking for and what you like the looks of.

At any rate good luck with your search and i hope you find something that will suit you well.

[The Stranger]

Been thinking awhile about buying either a XR6 or SS commodore for a while..cant afford new and am looking to spend $20,000.been trolling the net/auto trader etc and have found plenty of BA XR6s with between 60-80000 kms...the commodores seem more expensive in that for the same money you are getting one a few years older....Ute or sedan i really have no preference.....whats the better car anyone know..not really interested in what people think is better but known faults etc would be good....ta

Frauds suck.

Had both a Falcon and a couple of commodores.
Bought the Fraud first and wouldn't touch one again. Random shit would just happen, like driving along and the rear view mirror falls off, and close the door and off comes the door handle, fume leaks - which I was assured was normal.
Do you like oil leaks on your drive? You would think that after 100yrs they could fix that aye, apparently not, I gather Fraud owners like that.
Cost me more to maintain that thing for a year than I spent on car repairs in the previous 15.

The Holdens have been very good. No problems with anything other than brakes. Not that they have failed, just needs new shoes more frequently than I would have expected.

Ask a few Taxi drivers what they think - if you can find one which speaks english that is.

[_Gina_]

I am in the car "game" and I say don't buy either. Research other options. $20,000.00 should be enough money....

We run a fleet of about 14,000 vehicles and although the trend is changing, the modern penchant for the kiwi executive is to drive a Ford Falcon or a Holden Commodore.

Part of my job is to investigate problems with vehicles from a mechanical/electrical perspective and I spend a lot of time with problem Commodores and Falcons. edit: to be fair more so with Falcons.

I would sum my experiences up by saying that both manufacturers are way too keen to get their product released first to spend any real time in development and testing. Hence the owner/driver gets to be the guinea pig. Which for the money you spend kinda sucks arse. Not to mention the close relationship you have to have with your local dealership. YAY.

I support my case (regarding development/testing) using Ford as an example and ask why they didn't sort out the water pump o-ring issue sooner. Yes I know it's just a $3.00 component, but FFS they should have sorted it out sooner. And don't start me with driveline vibes......

Gg

[Motu]

Ask a few Taxi drivers what they think - if you can find one which speaks english that is.

Taxi drivers won't touch a Commodore,90% are in Falcons.I think some of it is a comfort issue - one of my customers changed to a Commodore because he was sick of us spending $1000 on his brakes every year.He was only in the Commodore for 6mths because it gave him a sore back.Do 8hr shifts in one 6 days a week and you might change your mind too.