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blue_abe
27th August 2006, 14:50
Howdy ppls. I've been riding around about 1.5/2 months now, finished about 3000ks. I'm thinking about taking my cbr in for a general service and oil change. Is it too quick? too late? some people told me 2000ks, some told me 5000ks. The bike is mint, so after like 16 years I don't wanna fuk it up within 2 months.

twinkle
27th August 2006, 15:05
Assuming you had it serviced when you bought it then do it sometime between now and 5000k. If you thrash the snot out of it service it sooner rather than later.

blue_abe
27th August 2006, 15:11
yeah i guess i do thrash it a fair bit. that means high revs doesn't it?

twinkle
27th August 2006, 15:15
If it's high revs for the engine. Those things normally cruise at 10,000rpm or something don't they? :rockon: If you go around at full throttle a lot of the time then that's thrashing it :yes:

blue_abe
27th August 2006, 15:17
yeah lol on the motorway i cruise at 10k. i try to keep it at 6-7 on the normal roads. but i'm a bit of a cock on the motorway. speeding up, dropping my nuts for cops and slowing down again lol

SuperDave
27th August 2006, 15:24
I wouldn't bother taking it into a shop just to get an oil change.
You should be able to do all the basic stuff such as oil change, oil filter, air filter, spark plugs and coolant yourself without much trouble. Might take you a bit longer if you've never done any of that before but either way, you could get that all done in one afternoon.

If you're running a decent quality synthetic oil it should be good for around 6000kms before needing to be replaced.

sAsLEX
27th August 2006, 15:28
i try to keep it at 6-7 on the normal roads

They are designed to rev those things 17 or 18 wont hurt it for breif periods just dont cruise around at that high revs


I would suggest new oil and filter at 4k intervals. I used Castrol GPS I think, a semi synthetic oil.

SuperDave
27th August 2006, 15:29
However just thinking about it, if your bike is not running too well then it might be worth taking it in to get a shop for them to tune it and check things like valve clearances. Once that's been done you should be able to do over 10,000kms before needing to take it in again, provided you keep up with basic maintenance that I mentioned in the post above.

blue_abe
28th August 2006, 02:21
Tru... Well I kinda feel that the bike is running a bit under what it should, but maybe thats just me. I'll ask them to check valve clearances and all that, you know tune it up, and maybe teach me how to change oil and filter etc. Sweet guys thanks for the help. Every question I've asked on kiwibiker I've got awesome response and help.

07fatboy
28th August 2006, 02:48
Howdy ppls. I've been riding around about 1.5/2 months now, finished about 3000ks. I'm thinking about taking my cbr in for a general service and oil change. Is it too quick? too late? some people told me 2000ks, some told me 5000ks. The bike is mint, so after like 16 years I don't wanna fuk it up within 2 months.

usually if you on the throttle all the time i dropped the oil and change the oil at every 3000ks,I switched to motul fully synthetic oil and it quietened the engine up ran cooler and loved hanging around the redline comfortably....and no i dont work for motul...sane some money do the service your self oil filter couldnt be more than 15 bucks surely dime a dozen fully synthetic 50 bucks get 2 services outta that with what change you got you could get a few tanks a gas our crate a piss or ....you know what im sayin

SARGE
28th August 2006, 08:30
If you're running a decent quality synthetic oil it should be good for around 6000kms before needing to be replaced.



correct me if i am wrong .. but the motor oil and trans oil are the same in a CBR250. if you run a full synthetic oil, you will cause severe clutch slippage .. best to run Motul Semi syn. manufacturers recomendation is 6000 km for oil change but i personally change at about 4000 km.. oil is cheap..

if you have not had a good baseline service .. get it done at a reputable shop.. check EVERYTHING ( plugs, clearances, cam gear tension, etc..) and go from there ..that way you know what the overalll condition of the engine is and you can start your scheduled maintenance from that point ..

sAsLEX
28th August 2006, 10:30
correct me if i am wrong .. but the motor oil and trans oil are the same in a CBR250

correct .

rookie
28th August 2006, 17:01
correct me if i am wrong .. but the motor oil and trans oil are the same in a CBR250. if you run a full synthetic oil, you will cause severe clutch slippage .. best to run Motul Semi syn. manufacturers recomendation is 6000 km for oil change but i personally change at about 4000 km.. oil is cheap ..

Motul have a fully synthetic oil for gearbox/motor/clutch lube sharing motors. 4L Sells at mt eden motorcycles for around $55.

Self service does save alot of money except for that i stripped my sump which cost $ and time off road to re-tap. Remember aluminium is softer than steel.

SARGE
29th August 2006, 08:30
Motul have a fully synthetic oil for gearbox/motor/clutch lube sharing motors. 4L Sells at mt eden motorcycles for around $55.

Self service does save alot of money except for that i stripped my sump which cost $ and time off road to re-tap. Remember aluminium is softer than steel.

cool... wasnt aware of that..

PS- make sure you run a MOTORCYCLE SPECIFIC oil.. NOT a car oil.. there are huge differences


Motorcycle oils and passenger car oils are very similar, with the exception of a couple of areas that are key to motorcycle operation. The first area concerns common sumps, or the use of motor oil, to lubricate and cool the transmission. As you know, in a passenger car the transmission is lubricated by an ATF fluid, which has frictional properties required for transmission operation. In a motorcycle, where the transmission may be lubricated by the engine oil, an engine oil that does not have the same level of friction modification (for fuel economy) of a typical passenger car engine oil will provide better transmission performance in terms of transmission lock-up and slippage. So motorcycle engine oil does not contain the friction modifiers of a passenger car engine oil. The second area of concern for motorcycle engine oils is that they tend to shear (breakdown viscosity) more quickly than a typical passenger car. Mobil 1 motorcycle oils are designed to provide exceptional protection against viscosity loss.

blue_abe
29th August 2006, 10:54
lols well i took it to red baron. The dude there seemed pretty helpful. I asked him to show me how to change oil etc (i'm pretty noober) and he did. He said the chain's become a bit loose, but thats to be expected. He gonna check other stuff too. It should be done by today. Mannnn, I'm missing my bike already. I WANT IT BACK!!!

07fatboy
29th August 2006, 16:29
lols well i took it to red baron. The dude there seemed pretty helpful. I asked him to show me how to change oil etc (i'm pretty noober) and he did. He said the chain's become a bit loose, but thats to be expected. He gonna check other stuff too. It should be done by today. Mannnn, I'm missing my bike already. I WANT IT BACK!!!

let us know what they stung ya mate...what oil did ya end up using:yes: :scooter: :dodge: :rockon: :bye: :sick:

Scouse
29th August 2006, 16:55
Howdy ppls. I've been riding around about 1.5/2 months now, finished about 3000ks. I'm thinking about taking my cbr in for a general service and oil change. Is it too quick? too late? some people told me 2000ks, some told me 5000ks. The bike is mint, so after like 16 years I don't wanna fuk it up within 2 months.About this many
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SuperDave
29th August 2006, 17:15
correct me if i am wrong .. but the motor oil and trans oil are the same in a CBR250. if you run a full synthetic oil, you will cause severe clutch slippage .. best to run Motul Semi syn. manufacturers recomendation is 6000 km for oil change but i personally change at about 4000 km.. oil is cheap..


Reading my post again it would have been best for me not to make such a generalization for all high quality synthetic bike oil.

I have run Mobil 1 Fully Synthetic (the motorcycle specific one) in all three of my bikes (FXR, ZXR250, Gixxer) and have had no problem what so ever with clutch slippage on any of the three bikes. In light of this I thought I was making an informed assumption on all high quality fully synthetic oil.

The mobil one does say at the back - 'Excellent wet clutch performance'

Sorry if this caused anyone any confusion.

twinkle
29th August 2006, 17:56
About this many
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4350? why not round it to the nearest 100k at least? :p

Scouse
29th August 2006, 18:01
4350? why not round it to the nearest 100k at least? :pCos I said about this many, Not exactly this many,
By the way I was wondering who was going to be Anal enough to count the K's

twinkle
29th August 2006, 21:46
It's not like I did the counting, that's what I've got a computer for. And more bored than anal :zzzz:

rookie
29th August 2006, 22:03
lols well i took it to red baron. The dude there seemed pretty helpful. I asked him to show me how to change oil etc (i'm pretty noober) and he did. He said the chain's become a bit loose, but thats to be expected. He gonna check other stuff too. It should be done by today. Mannnn, I'm missing my bike already. I WANT IT BACK!!!

i understand...my bikes been in the shop for 10 days now.

dun wori man none of us are born naturals....i had a mate show me how its done during the first oil change...tightening the chain is also quite a straightforward procedure

sunhuntin
29th August 2006, 23:01
lols well i took it to red baron. The dude there seemed pretty helpful. I asked him to show me how to change oil etc (i'm pretty noober) and he did. He said the chain's become a bit loose, but thats to be expected. He gonna check other stuff too. It should be done by today. Mannnn, I'm missing my bike already. I WANT IT BACK!!!

yep. keep an ear on the chain if you go for a long haul ride. mine got loose twice. first time, i didnt have to wait long to take in [combined with the service] second time, i had to wait [was easter, busy cos everyone wants their bikes done] chain jumped off on a corner. not fun. [again, i combined the service] needed a new chain, plus the guard was munted big time.

Deanos
30th August 2006, 19:59
I'd change the oil every 5,000k and the filter every second oil change. Its pretty easy to do yourself, just wait for a rainy day and give yourself plenty of time.

07fatboy
30th August 2006, 21:14
I'd change the oil every 5,000k and the filter every second oil change. Its pretty easy to do yourself, just wait for a rainy day and give yourself plenty of time.

:gob: :gob: DEEEEEEEEWD THATS WRONG!!!! new filter new oil....i couldnt imagine any thing less:gob:

LilSel
5th September 2006, 18:32
Whats a normal service cost??
*need one*

rookie
6th September 2006, 07:40
Whats a normal service cost??
*need one*

depends on what you need doing

i can recommend City Motorcycle Spares though...just had my zxr in there. Very reasonable cost for the work that was done.

I dealt with Ricky...really good dude...can giv them a call on 376 9485