Talkiest sports / road bike?

[The Pastor]

Whats the torqueist bike on the market (factory) in the sports / road bike market? Well, anything thats not a cruiser... :scooter: I did a search but its all like "my bikes the fastest" or "insert manufactures name here bike is the best"

Numbers must be posted or say "look at this bike it might be tops"

not GSXRS PWN THE WRLD YOU HOMO HONDAS ARE SLOW YOU NOOB.


Rm

[Mr. Peanut]

Yamaha MT-01 - 150.1Nm/3750rpm
Suzuki Hayabusa - 141 Nm/7000 rpm
Kawasaki ZX-14 - 154 Nm/7500

Would all be up there :yes:

[kiwifruit]

http://www.bosshoss.com/view_bike.asp?x=BHC3502&CID=129942064.843258
its not all that sporty, but the torque is up there:whocares:

[R6_kid]

torque eh? More cc generally = more torque.

Also V-twin or V4 = more torque, generally less top end. But in saying that you can run smaller sprokets to get the top end up on big v-twins as they have the torque to get you off the line.

[sAsLEX]

and queue the IL4 people going on about how there thous are torquier than a big Vtwin, wont they dont mention is how that torque is all delivered right in one spot not from down low through the range like a twin!

[sAsLEX]

torque eh? More cc generally = more torque.

Also V-twin or V4 = more torque, generally less top end. But in saying that you can run smaller sprokets to get the top end up on big v-twins as they have the torque to get you off the line.

Think you will find the 1k IL4s actually produce more torque than the vtwins

Duc
Power* 110 kw - 150 hp @ 9750 rpm
Torque* 11.9 kgm (86.1 lb-ft) @ 8000 rpm

gsxr k5 1k
Power* 132.7 kw - 178 hp @ 12000 rpm
Torque* 120Nm (88.5 lb-ft)

[The Pastor]

http://www.bosshoss.com/view_bike.asp?x=BHC3502&CID=129942064.843258
its not all that sporty, but the torque is up there:whocares:

WOAH 500hp! but its 545kg lol.

Intersting that its a cast iron block too. But im really after sports bike, I want to know what the biggest tire shredder is.


Whats an il4?

[Mr. Peanut]

Oh man, DUH.

Found it ^_^

Triumph Rocket III - 200 Nm/2500 rpm

Is it a cruiser though? Not in my books.

[SuperDave]

Whats an il4?

*Sighs* Inline Four numbnuts :bleh:

[R6_kid]

But im really after sports bike, I want to know what the biggest tire shredder is.


why not learn to ride good first? Get a 600 or SV650 and learn to ride it properly, not just blasting off in a straight line.

As for tyre shreading, you'll want to look at an inline four as V-twins have a slower pulse rate than an ILF and therefore tend to be gentler on tires (in WSBK anyway)

Big Torque?
TL1000R or S, S handles better apparently.
VTR1000
VTR SP (RC51) race version of VTR1000, probably out of your price range.
RSV1000R Italian V-twin race bike, 20k+ second hand.
Any 900cc+ Ducati
Then theres the hypersports (late ZX11, ZX12, Busa, ZX14, Blackbird)

[kiwifruit]

gsxr k5 1k
Power* 132.7 kw - 178 hp @ 1200 rpm


impressive aite, and barely idling!

[Scouse]

Speed Triple
Moto morini Vtwin corsair 1200cc

[The Pastor]

why not learn to ride good first? Get a 600 or SV650 and learn to ride it properly, not just blasting off in a straight line.



Who said anything about riding it? I just want to know. And I want numbers, for a number1. not :second: or :third:

[sAsLEX]

Who said anything about riding it? I just want to know. And I want numbers, for a number1. not :second: or :third:

Do some research then!

[The Pastor]

Its a kb disscussion point!

[The Pastor]

Oh man, DUH.

Found it ^_^

Triumph Rocket III - 200 Nm/2500 rpm

Is it a cruiser though? Not in my books.

It is in my books, And thats all that matters!

The winner so far is

Kawasaki ZX-14 - 154 Nm/7500

GO KAWASAKI!

[hXc]

As for tyre shreading, you'll want to look at an inline four as V-twins have a slower pulse rate than an ILF and therefore tend to be gentler on tires (in WSBK anyway)
Go ride a TL1000R or S and see what chews through tyres more. Those things have torque as soon as you open the throttle in any gear at any rpm. They chew through tyres like most people change their underwear because of the torque.

http://www.nickbennett.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/torque.gif

TL1000S
Peak Horsepower: 114.3 at 9,500 rpm
Peak Torque: 72.6 at 7,750 rpm

TL1000R
Peak Horsepower: 116.7 at 8,500 rpm
Peak Torque: 73.0 at 7,000 rpm

[Hitcher]

FJR1300: 136Nm @7,000rpm; 145 brake (crank) at 8,000rpm.

[Finn]

Fuck RM, what a pathetic thread. What happened, did your Playstation break down or does your mum have her period?

[Clivoris]

My mum had a honda C90 and she could talk the hind leg off a big animal.

[Finn]

My mum had a honda C90 and she could talk the hind leg off a big animal.

Clivoris, maybe your mother could teach RM how to ride properly so one day, when he saves enough money to buy the "talkiest" bike in the world, he'll know how to ride it.

[Titanium]

BMW K1200 S

128 kn
RWHP 163.8 @ 10250

With Akrapovic system.

Cheers

[Clivoris]

Clivoris, maybe your mother could teach RM how to ride properly so one day, when he saves enough money to buy the "talkiest" bike in the world, he'll know how to ride it.

She's a bit of a hoot, I reckon she'd be up for it. I remember her telling the salesman (about 30 years ago) that she wanted a fullface helmet. That way if her head got knocked off in an accident it would still be nicely contained.

[Waylander]

What is a good and reliable website for looking up torque and horsepower figures for any kind of bike? Been lloking for one but can't find any.

[Titanium]

Some of the aftermarket zorst makers are good for figures. Try some of those.

[The Pastor]

What is a good and reliable website for looking up torque and horsepower figures for any kind of bike? Been lloking for one but can't find any.


www.Motorbikes.be is alright, 98% accurate etc.

[The Pastor]

Clivoris, maybe your mother could teach RM how to ride properly so one day, when he saves enough money to buy the "talkiest" bike in the world, he'll know how to ride it.


Im not wanting this information to buy said bike, I just want to know what it is!

[Big Dave]

Triumph Rocket III - by some margin.

[The Pastor]

Triumph Rocket III - by some margin.

Sports or road bikes only, rocket III is a bruzer.

[bladez]

Go ride a TL1000R or S and see what chews through tyres more. Those things have torque as soon as you open the throttle in any gear at any rpm. They chew through tyres like most people change their underwear because of the torque.

http://www.nickbennett.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/torque.gif

TL1000S
Peak Horsepower: 114.3 at 9,500 rpm
Peak Torque: 72.6 at 7,750 rpm


TLS bugger the bloody tyre bill every 3-3500 k rear tyre :gob: but that was a soft compound and 2 up

[Big Dave]

Sports or road bikes only, rocket III is a bruzer.

It's actually quite a capable road bike. Lean angle is its only shortcoming - but 'tis a road bike to me. Handles steers brakes and accelerates with the best of them.

[Ghost Lemur]

Dave's right. My guess for second would be the Yamaha MT-01 @ 150. Definitely still on my "If I could collect motorbikes, I would own" list.

[TonyB]

and queue the IL4 people going on about how there thous are torquier than a big Vtwin, wont they dont mention is how that torque is all delivered right in one spot not from down low through the range like a twin!

Not so I'm afraid. Behold the attached scan of the dyno curves for ALL of the 1000's- CBR, R1, GSX-R, ZX-10R, MV F4S, 999 and RSV-R. With the exception of the 999, all of the bikes were tested on the same dyno. Note the light blue torque curve of the RSV-R popping its head up above the rest until 3000rpm, when it is upstaged by the CBR, the F4 takes over for a bit before the 999 pops up for all of about 100 revs before the GSXR shits all over all of them all the way from 4000 till just under 6000. The fours battle it out till their respective redlines, while the twins never get a look in.

Why? Buggered if I know! Maybe because there is more R&D money being poured into 4's at the moment??

[onearmedbandit]

Fark me, the R1 has a huge dip doesn't it?

[TonyB]

Fark me, the R1 has a huge dip doesn't it?
Sure does! I still can't help thinking that Yamaha have gone in the wrong direction with engine development.

One thing I forgot to mention- fours also get to take advantage of the lower gearing their higher reving engines allow for.

[oldguy]

Buell XB12R (109.7Nm):yes:

[Waylander]

Where do the V4s sit? Like the VFR and such.

[onearmedbandit]

In workshops!

[Waylander]

In workshops!
:shifty::bleh:

[Mr. Peanut]

Not so I'm afraid. Behold the attached scan of the dyno curves for ALL of the 1000's- CBR, R1, GSX-R, ZX-10R, MV F4S, 999 and RSV-R. With the exception of the 99...r 6000. The fours battle it out till their respective redlines, while the twins never get a look in.

Why? Buggered if I know! Maybe because there is more R&D money being poured into 4's at the moment??

Is it just me or is someone getting a little too excited over that chart? Looks like a pube to me... :laugh:

[Pixie]

My bandits talky...
sometimes it tells me to climb the clock tower with a high powered rifle

[TLDV8]

My bandits talky...
sometimes it tells me to climb the clock tower with a high powered rifle

:rofl:
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It is not only about torque...... Crankshaft/Flywheel weight will have a major effect to...stored energy or something.