Anyone see this??

[James Deuce]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2942417a11,00.html

Maybe there is hope after all.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2944355a10,00.html

I was wrong. There is no hope. It's just a bigger beauracracy.

[vifferman]

Interesting. Could be good, or could be yet another rebadging exercise.
Regardless, many of the eedjit bureaucrats will still be in their jobs, so it doesn't necessarily signal an end to inane rules and regulations.

I look forward to tomorrow's media release....

[Hitcher]

Better to rely on one powerful king than on many little princes.
Jean de La Fontaine (1621 - 1695)

[kerryg]

Interesting. Could be good, or could be yet another rebadging exercise.
Regardless, many of the eedjit bureaucrats will still be in their jobs, so it doesn't necessarily signal an end to inane rules and regulations.

I look forward to tomorrow's media release....


Get this: 580 people work for LTSA. 580!!!! What do they do all day I wonder except plan ways to expand.....next 680 staff...see how they are thriving

That's the thing about the state sector. In the state sector a measure of your success is how your department has grown...so they look for ways to expand their scope (e.g.make more regulations)..so that they need more people....who can make more regulations...yadda yadda

Private sector: you are encouraged, even forced screaming and kicking, to shrink and streamline....because of the profit motive and answerability to owners that the State Sector lacks.

580 people. How many people does it take to change a lightbulb (1 to hold the lightbulb, and 579 to tun the house round and round)??

:brick:

[James Deuce]

Get this: 580 people work for LTSA. 580!!!! What do they do all day I wonder except plan ways to expand.....next 680 staff...see how they are thriving

That's the thing about the state sector. In the state sector a measure of your success is how your department has grown...so they look for ways to expand their scope (e.g.make more regulations)..so that they need more people....who can make more regulations...yadda yadda

Private sector: you are encouraged, even forced screaming and kicking, to shrink and streamline....because of the profit motive and answerability to owners that the State Sector lacks.

580 people. How many people does it take to change a lightbulb (1 to hold the lightbulb, and 579 to tun the house round and round)??

:brick:

LTSA appears to be targeted by this move, given that they were the organisation singled out in the article as the most likely to experince a reduction in staffing. Hopefully Andy can go back to making Blues Clues in Canada.

[kerryg]

LTSA appears to be targeted by this move, given that they were the organisation singled out in the article as the most likely to experince a reduction in staffing. Hopefully Andy can go back to making Blues Clues in Canada.


I was listening to Morning Report the radio on the way to work this morning. Sean Plunket interviewd the Director of LTSA (must be Andy's boss) and chewed him up and spat him out in little bits over the recall of 300-odd Mitsubishi cars. This Director said LTSA relies SOLELY on the NZ importers (in this case Mitsubishi NZ) to notify them of defects so that a recall can be made. So...if Mitsubishi doesn't tell the LTSA, the LTSA doesn't know. How's that? It defies belief!!! That Dogs and Lemons character with the hyphenated name was interviewed and claims that the details of the fault were public knowledge a year ago in Japan. LTSA claims that Mitsubishi New Zealand were never told by their headquarters. mmmm I wonder who's got his head stuck firmly up his arse???


Maybe some of those 580 LTSA guys should monitor published recalls internationally rather than rely on the vehicle makers to come clean themselves. All slightly surreal :no:

[James Deuce]

I know!! They could use that Interweb thingy to check for recall notices. What's that search locomotive thingamabob?? Google!! That's it!!

[riffer]

What's that search locomotive thingamabob?? Google!! That's it!!
If its like any other govt department it will be blocked, like trademe :disapint:

[pete376403]

Mitsubishi Motors NZ didn't import those cars. Technically they don't even know they are here.
This would be the downside of the open slather anyone-can-import-shitboxes-from-anywhere regime that is in force at present. Everything is great until it goes bad, then blame the one organisation that had nothing to do with it.

[Hitcher]

Far be it for me to leap to the defence of the public sector but there are some slices of rotting meat in above posts to which I have been attracted like some big blowfly.

Firstly: "Success" in the public sector isn't measured by a department or agency's ability to grow. It's based on your ability to deliver your agreed outcomes (accepted that some state sector outcomes are a bit dodgy). State sector agencies also operate to considerably higher degrees of accountability and scrutiny than the private sector.
Secondly: "Success" in the private sector isn't (or shouldn't be) based solely on lowest cost imperitives -- it's about (or should be about) meeting customer needs at a profit.
Thirdly: There are no state sector directives about what firewalls can screen. I know many agencies that allow full and unfettered access to the web anywhere, anytime.

[Dismounts hobby horse and returns it to stable]

[Motu]

Mitsubishi Motors NZ didn't import those cars. Technically they don't even know they are here.
This would be the downside of the open slather anyone-can-import-shitboxes-from-anywhere regime that is in force at present. Everything is great until it goes bad, then blame the one organisation that had nothing to do with it.

True - those car's wouldn't even be on the road in Japan,their use by date has ended and they were destined for the crusher - but Kiwi's with money in their eyes bring them in and then try to hang the blame on Mitsubshi because after all they made them eh? Hot potatoes end up belonging to the one with the biggest pockets.

[Hitcher]

Hot potatoes end up belonging to the one with the biggest pockets.

Your metaphor is almost a haiku, but I still don't get it??

[James Deuce]

Thirdly: There are no state sector directives about what firewalls can screen. I know many agencies that allow full and unfettered access to the web anywhere, anytime.


I can confirm that. The Government Dept that I help support from an IT perspective has firewall policy set at the discretion of the IT Manager.

[riffer]

I can confirm that. The Government Dept that I help support from an IT perspective has firewall policy set at the discretion of the IT Manager.
Crikey Jim that's awful grammar. Since when has "help support" been a verb?

[James Deuce]

Crikey Jim that's awful grammar. Since when has "help support" been a verb?
Get forked - Oh dear it appears you already have. :devil2:

[riffer]

Get forked - Oh dear it appears you already have. :devil2:
grrr [crawls back into dark little hole] :Pokey:

[kerryg]

True - those car's wouldn't even be on the road in Japan,their use by date has ended and they were destined for the crusher - but Kiwi's with money in their eyes bring them in and then try to hang the blame on Mitsubshi because after all they made them eh? Hot potatoes end up belonging to the one with the biggest pockets.


Well ACTUALLY I wan't so much having a go at Mitsubishi as at LTSA if you read what I wrote. For those with short attention spans I'll summarise it here: it's peculiar that LTSA relies on the NZ Mitsubishi distributor to inform them of faults warranting recalls. The fact that, as some have pointed out, the cars in question mat have been imported entirely without Mitsubishi's knowledge tends to support my point, don't ya think? :Pokey:

As a matter of interest though, an acquaintance of mine in Christchurch whose VR4 is one of the ones being recalled bought his off the local Mitsubishi dealer....so I guess the lines are a bit blurred.

[kerryg]

Far be it for me to leap to the defence of the public sector but there are some slices of rotting meat in above posts to which I have been attracted like some big blowfly.

Firstly: "Success" in the public sector isn't measured by a department or agency's ability to grow. It's based on your ability to deliver your agreed outcomes (accepted that some state sector outcomes are a bit dodgy). State sector agencies also operate to considerably higher degrees of accountability and scrutiny than the private sector.
Secondly: "Success" in the private sector isn't (or shouldn't be) based solely on lowest cost imperitives -- it's about (or should be about) meeting customer needs at a profit.
Thirdly: There are no state sector directives about what firewalls can screen. I know many agencies that allow full and unfettered access to the web anywhere, anytime.

[Dismounts hobby horse and returns it to stable]

Yeah I was generalising about public sector and like all generalisations there will be many exceptions..but " delivering your agreed outcomes"....pardon me while I stifle a yawn. So let me exclaim again....580 people work for LTSA? What the hell do they do that needs 580 people?????? How many of them I wonder are beavering away as I write in an earmest endeavour to deliver their outcomes (more regulation/higher revenues/more paper to process/more faceless bureaucrats to produce more regulation...you get the picture :bleh: )


As for the " purpose" of private sector business: it's simple. Make profit.
That's got to be beyond argument, surely. It's the whole basis of capitalism. Optimising profitability includes controlling cost. No point if you're producing shitloads of money only to be squandered? Right? And in an efficient economy the flabby organisations that aren't mindful of costs don't stay around long...so there is an imperative there alright.That is not the same thing as being driven by " lowest cost imperatives". So endeth the lesson

I

[Hitcher]

580 people work for LTSA? What the hell do they do that needs 580 people??????

As for the " purpose" of private sector business: it's simple. Make profit.

I think you'll find that most of the LTSA's employees work at the vehicle registration/driver licensing centre in Palmerston North. No judgement from me as to whether those staffing levels are realistic.

No disagreement from me about the profit imperitive, I think you'll find I said as much in my earlier post...

[kerryg]

I think you'll find that most of the LTSA's employees work at the vehicle registration/driver licensing centre in Palmerston North. No judgement from me as to whether those staffing levels are realistic.

No disagreement from me about the profit imperitive, I think you'll find I said as much in my earlier post...



mmmm. well. a boring subject anyway <_<

[merv]

I think you'll find that most of the LTSA's employees work at the vehicle registration/driver licensing centre in Palmerston North. No judgement from me as to whether those staffing levels are realistic.

No disagreement from me about the profit imperitive, I think you'll find I said as much in my earlier post...

Its all described here http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/about/ and here http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/about/structure.html

[Hitcher]

mmmm. well. a boring subject anyway <_<

You started it, sunshine...

[kerryg]

You started it, sunshine...
Yeah that's fair...but sort of exhausted my interest in it now that I've vented my spleen a bit.... :rolleyes:

[James Deuce]

Yeah that's fair...but sort of exhausted my interest in it now that I've vented my spleen a bit.... :rolleyes:

Short attention span - Ducati Pilot - I'm seeing a pattern :D

[kerryg]

Short attention span - Ducati Pilot - I'm seeing a pattern :D


Bit cryptic for me Jim....do I detect a little penis envy???? :kick:

[James Deuce]

Bit cryptic for me Jim....do I detect a little penis envy???? :kick:

Lol - you need to meet Lynda and Eddie, my mate Malcolm, and my other mate Neal to see the pattern.

I'll never admit being envious of a penis, and anything with more than 100HP spits me off and injures me so I'm happy bro.

[kerryg]

Lol - you need to meet Lynda and Eddie, my mate Malcolm, and my other mate Neal to see the pattern.

I'll never admit being envious of a penis, and anything with more than 100HP spits me off and injures me so I'm happy bro.


Hey Jim

That's cool. I don't buy into the sort of thinking where Hondas are than Suzukis or Harley are better than Triumphs or any of that bulls***t. I've only ever owned Jappers (OK I once very briefly owned an old Bonneville) and I got the 851 only a couple of months ago and it's a pig of a thing compared to anything else I've ridden (OK...except the Bonneville) but it is HUGE fun learning to ride the bastard...


My very first ride on it was to take it to a mechanic for a (much needed)service a few weeks ago and I rode it in the rain, in the dark, on the North-Western Motorway in bumper to bumper traffic moving at about 10kms an hour and this thing is VERY unhappy under 3000rpm and is very tall geared, and the clutch is kind of either in or out, and it wanted to stall every time I rolled off the throttle ....a PIG of a thing, but what a glorious noise ...... my FZR1000 is like driving a Lexus and the 851 is like driving a Formula Ford...or a supercart!!! All part of the rich tapestry of motorcycling... :rolleyes:

[vifferman]

Hey, Kerry.
The 851 is a great bike. I've always loved Ducatis and lusted after them, but have never owned one. I nearly bought a 750SuperSport (the old one), but took too long thinking about it. I do have a Ducati keyring!
Maybe one day, when servicing costs aren't an issue....

[kerryg]

Hey, Kerry.
The 851 is a great bike. I've always loved Ducatis and lusted after them, but have never owned one. I nearly bought a 750SuperSport (the old one), but took too long thinking about it. I do have a Ducati keyring!
Maybe one day, when servicing costs aren't an issue....

Hey F/S

Well the 851 is going to be buried with me....when I am too old to ride it (which might be ALREADY actually) I'm going to put it in my front room just to look at. And every now and then I'll start it up and just listen to that glorious racket.....


Now just have to get the red Ducati leathers so I can go sit with fellow poseurs at a table on the footpath outside a cafe in Mission Bay drinking lattes...... :bleh:

[Lou Girardin]

Mitsubishi Motors NZ didn't import those cars. Technically they don't even know they are here.
This would be the downside of the open slather anyone-can-import-shitboxes-from-anywhere regime that is in force at present. Everything is great until it goes bad, then blame the one organisation that had nothing to do with it.

But they do hold parts for them, don't they. Their dealers even bring them in and sell them too.