Asians!!!

[Bend-it]

Honestly, I hate the term. It's such a broad generalisation of people that it really is unhelpful for anything apart from gross generalisations, often derogatory and almost always wrong.

- Asians are bad drivers
- Asians have squinty eyes
- Asians are geeky math geniuses
- Asians know kung fu

Which Asian you talking about? Chinese? Japanese? Korean? North or South? Malays? Indians? Thai? Cambodians? Hmong? Shan? Karen? Khmu? Khmer? Indonesian? Indonesian Chinese? Dayaks? I could go on for awhile, but you get my drift... Each of those people groups have populations larger than the entire NZ population!!

Ok, my main beef is that each time someone says, "An asian driver did [insert bad driving behavour]." What they are implying is "so watch out for asians on the road". Why else would you include the person's racial description (however broad and inadequate)? Same applies to women and old people. If it was an average whitey (what is that anyway?), then people would just say "An idiot cager [insert bad driving behavour]."

Everytime someone makes a generalised statement like that, it just adds to very unhelpful racist feelings.

I'm all for general ribbing and piss-takes, but it's quite clear at times when it's not a piss-take and reveals underlying prejudices.

Okay, rant over :done:

Happy again :Punk:

[John Banks]

Fair enough. I shall be referring to them AZNS ^___^ from now on.

[carver]

Honestly, I hate the term. It's such a broad generalisation of people that it really is unhelpful for anything apart from gross generalisations, often derogatory and almost always wrong.

- Asians are bad drivers
- Asians have squinty eyes
- Asians are geeky math geniuses
- Asians know kung fu

Which Asian you talking about? Chinese? Japanese? Korean? North or South? Malays? Indians? Thai? Cambodians? Hmong? Shan? Karen? Khmu? Khmer? Indonesian? Indonesian Chinese? Dayaks? I could go on for awhile, but you get my drift... Each of those people groups have populations larger than the entire NZ population!!

Ok, my main beef is that each time someone says, "An asian driver did [insert bad driving behavour]." What they are implying is "so watch out for asians on the road". Why else would you include the person's racial description (however broad and inadequate)? Same applies to women and old people. If it was an average whitey (what is that anyway?), then people would just say "An idiot cager [insert bad driving behavour]."

Everytime someone makes a generalised statement like that, it just adds to very unhelpful racist feelings.

I'm all for general ribbing and piss-takes, but it's quite clear at times when it's not a piss-take and reveals underlying prejudices.

Okay, rant over :done:

Happy again :Punk:


I would employ an asian any day, From where i stand they ae hard working reasonably honest ppl (despite some having fake/no lisences(?))
Fasians are the ones who i know (aka bannana asians), and they are as kiwi as anyone who has been here a while.
I have worked with them in shite jobs whilst a student, most of them show a good friendly open minded smart attitude to life, and they could stick at things.
it still mildly annoys me to see groups of them all speaking their native tounge rather than intergrating though.

[Bend-it]

it still mildly annoys me to see groups of them all speaking their native tounge rather than intergrating though.

That's 'coz they've experienced many kiwis who won't talk to them, or talk down to them when they do.

I have spent considerable amounts of time working with intl students for whom English in a 2nd language, and in many oriental cultures, the practice is for the host to initiate contact with the visitor, making them feel welcome etc. However, in kiwi culture, it is largely the visitor's role to initiate contact and introduce themselves.

Not saying that either is correct, but unless one of them breaks their social norm and initiates contact, that gulf will always be there. It is true that being in Rome, do as the Romans do etc... however, most of the time people don't know this and therefore take each other as being unfriendly, when in fact, it's just different social norms.

How long did it take you to learn English? "integrating" is much harder than it sounds... Even coming from Singapore, where English was my first language, the humour and accent were huge things to overcome. People still look at me strangely when I come to the punchline of a joke, so I don't think anything's changed there.

Combat Ignorance, get informed!!

[carver]

That's 'coz they've experienced many kiwis who won't talk to them, or talk down to them when they do.

I have spent considerable amounts of time working with intl students for whom English in a 2nd language, and in many oriental cultures, the practice is for the host to initiate contact with the visitor, making them feel welcome etc. However, in kiwi culture, it is largely the visitor's role to initiate contact and introduce themselves.

Not saying that either is correct, but unless one of them breaks their social norm and initiates contact, that gulf will always be there. It is true that being in Rome, do as the Romans do etc... however, most of the time people don't know this and therefore take each other as being unfriendly, when in fact, it's just different social norms.

How long did it take you to learn English? "integrating" is much harder than it sounds... Even coming from Singapore, where English was my first language, the humour and accent were huge things to overcome. People still look at me strangely when I come to the punchline of a joke, so I don't think anything's changed there.

Combat Ignorance, get informed!!


Yes, i think the next gen of kiwi's will be interesting, as for being informed, that I am.
I do know what your saying, but if some can intergrate, why not others?
some make the effort, but others appear to like to stay in "chinatown"
It could be us kiwi's, it always saddens me to see teen's yelling "coons" etc.. at asians or anyone else minding their own buisness on the street.
English was my first language (i still struggle:dodge: )
the effort to intergrate leads to intergration.:done:

[John Banks]

It is true that being in Rome, do as the Romans do etc...

Pity that's not quite true, because Romans were extremely hospitable hosts.

[Joni]

In South Africa there are not many people of Asian decent... so when I got to NZ it was quite a learning curve for me, getting to know their culture and me trying to get used to their accents just as much them getting used to mine.... it was great fun. However I never had any close contact until recently - I met a young guy called Kai - he has been in the country a while, highly educated, but had been working at macDonalds of all places since he graduated... man oh man what an amazing young guy, so sweet and gentle and very appreciative of the work I have done for him. Proud to say he is now working for one of the larger banks... how he thanked me? - with a bottle of Moet :gob:

Now I know you cant judge everyone from one experience, but Kai has been amazing, loved his charatcer which came from a very traditional chinese upbringing... great people judging from one little fella. :sunny:

I always wonder why always look at the bad stuff first... sad huh! but hey I know I am niave about people.

Sorry was this off topic? oops...

[bobsmith]

How long did it take you to learn English? "integrating" is much harder than it sounds... Even coming from Singapore, where English was my first language, the humour and accent were huge things to overcome. People still look at me strangely when I come to the punchline of a joke, so I don't think anything's changed there.

Combat Ignorance, get informed!!

Well, depends.... many "asians" I know (when I say "asian" I mean, Koreans, Chinese and Japanese as that's what I grew up referring to as asians when I grew up in south Korea) find it very easy to "integrate" not to say that it's a good thing but I for one speak in English primarily and I have never felt that I was disadvantaged or discriminated in anyway because of the fact that I'm an asian (except for one english teacher I had in highschool but that's a long time ago and she probably didn't like the fact that I knew english grammer better than her)

Infact, when I first came to New Zealand, I found most New Zealanders with european decent to be most welcoming rather than other fellow Koreans, which is probably why I ended up with friends who are all New Zealanders with european decent and my girlfriend is half irish and half New Zealander. When people so often complain about discrimination, etc, I wonder if some over-reaction and hostility along with pre-condition of mind which seems to forever look for any tiny hints of discrimination is at work... but that's just me.

Damn it! I do have squinty eyes and I am rather good at math.... now only if I was some Kung fu genius as well.........

[edit] - since you asked, it took me almost half a year of being in new zealand to be able to converse with people confidently... then took me 1.5 years for everyone to think that I am an american (due to my accent gained from watching too much american tv) then now people just scratch their head and wonder where the hell I came from.... (I'm happy as long as no one says that I sound like a fucking brit....)

[Lou Girardin]

After being cut up by them far too many times, I'll go with the stereotype.

[SpankMe]

hmmmmm, asians

[Joni]

Hehehe - Spank I knew that was coming... scarey when I can predict your actions... :mellow:

[Maha]

DAM, thought this was a vote thread....please tly again rater....:innocent:

[bobsmith]

hey carver, what's an "Fasian"? or "banana asian"???

[Sniper]

Im with Lou. 32% of our cars that have been damaged in accidents were hired out by asians. Of that 32%, 87% was the drivers fault and of that 32%, 40% of the cars were write offs.

I'll be happy stereotyping when it comes to asians in cars

[skelstar]

What percentage of the cars hired out were hired by Asians Sniper? That stat would help us with your point.

[Lias]

Perhaps rather than "asian" we should should use a term such as chinkies, nips, gooks, slanteyes, VC, charlie, rice eaters, slopes, or something else equally politically correct.

[Bend-it]

As usual, lies and stats... You should join the labour party or ltsa snipe!

So 68% of write-offs were non-asians? 50% of the world, 32% of write-offs, that's well below par innit?

[Lou Girardin]

hmmmmm, asians

None of them ever cut me off, damn it!

[skelstar]

Would you consider that 32% of tourists hiring cars in CHCH might be Asian too?

[Korea]

Im with Lou. 32% of our cars that have been damaged in accidents were hired out by asians. Of that 32%, 87% was the drivers fault and of that 32%, 40% of the cars were write offs.

I'll be happy stereotyping when it comes to asians in cars

But the point,Snipe, is...


Which Asian you talking about? Chinese? Japanese? Korean? North or South? Malays? Indians? Thai? Cambodians? Hmong? Shan? Karen? Khmu? Khmer? Indonesian? Indonesian Chinese? Dayaks? I could go on for awhile, but you get my drift... Each of those people groups have populations larger than the entire NZ population!!

Now that's an arse-load of different races that you can categorise as 'Asian'.
What percentage of accidents were "White?"; meaning of course: Irish, English, Scottish, Dutch, Belgium, Finnish, Polish, German, Italian, French, Swedish, Swiss, Spanish... etx. etx. etx.

It's a broad category...

Oh, and 500 posts... yay

[Sniper]

So 68% of write-offs were non-asians? 50% of the world, 32% of write-offs, that's well below par innit?

You were never good at maths or reading were you?
Out of the 32% of asians crashing cars, 40% were write offs which meant 60% of the cars that asians crashed were fixable. Makes sense? Or should I add a graph?

In our company 42.342% (Hey thats what the spreadsheat says) were hires by those people classed as asian decent (sp)

Damn good point Korea, unfortunatly I couldnt say because the system only gives us an option to select asian as origin of hirer.

EDIT: But to prove I dont go out of my way to point fingers..... Us south africans crash cars too. 2.8% of accidents in our cars last year were south africans. The bastards!!!!

[Bend-it]

You were never good at maths or reading were you?
Out of the 32% of asians crashing cars, 40% were write offs which meant 60% of the cars that asians crashed were fixable. Makes sense? Or should I add a graph?

In our company 42.342% (Hey thats what the spreadsheat says) were hires by those people classed as asian decent (sp)

Damn good point Korea, unfortunatly I couldnt say because the system only gives us an option to select asian as origin of hirer.

EDIT: But to prove I dont go out of my way to point fingers..... Us south africans crash cars too. 2.8% of accidents in our cars last year were south africans. The bastards!!!!

Excuse me, my math and engrish berry good...

What has writeoffs and fixable crashes to do with it? 42% hirers, and 32% 'crashers' asian is a favourable statistic, they crash a smaller proportion than they hire...

how many percent of hirers were S. Africans?

[SpankMe]

hmmmm, more Asians.

40351   40352   40353   40354   40355   40356

Don't mind me, I'm in my own little fantasy world :love:

[Sniper]

how many percent of hirers were S. Africans?

7.683.......

[Bend-it]

7.683.......

Good, they're about as good as asians then, wrecking proportionately fewer cars then they hire.

how about my other comment? Those stats still favour asians not wreaking cars, oh Math guru... Or you finding another way to twist the numbers?

[Sniper]

Ok, so I offer my opinion on what I believe backing it up as to why and you get antsy. Its my opinion, if you dislike it, tough shit whimp-lo. I dont try and tell you that you are wrong because you think some of our comments are unwarrented.

[98tls]

My old lady has an Asian family living next door to her in ch-ch,better neighbours you would never get,they are very wealthy and extremely hard working but are the most down to earth people you could ever meet...Mum lives on her own and from time to time little things happen like the other day her lawnmower wouldnt go....this guy comes over rolls up his sleeves and fixes the thing..nice.before i met them i was the typical Kiwi bloke who thought they were annoying little pricks who were invading our country at an alarming rate and had no time for them at all but have been proved wrong...generally nice people just like us i reckon...i will add that yea the guys a shocking driver and has had more than his share of accidents.:yes:If they have a bit of an outing together mum always insists on driving..:innocent:

[skelstar]

Its about time we saw some more asian girls spank.

[Bend-it]

32% of our cars that have been damaged in accidents were hired out by asians. Of that 32%, 87% was the drivers fault and of that 32%, 40% of the cars were write offs.

I'll be happy stereotyping when it comes to asians in cars


You were never good at maths or reading were you?
Out of the 32% of asians crashing cars, 40% were write offs which meant 60% of the cars that asians crashed were fixable. Makes sense? Or should I add a graph?



Ok, so I offer my opinion on what I believe backing it up as to why and you get antsy. Its my opinion, if you dislike it, tough shit whimp-lo. I dont try and tell you that you are wrong because you think some of our comments are unwarrented.

Antsy? Who's antsy? I pointed out the flaw in interpreting your data, on which you arrived at a misdirected prejudice, while you've (see above quotes):-

- unfairly stereotyped,
- called me bad at math and reading
- been facecious in suggesting a graph
- called me whimp-lo (whatever the heck that is...)

Mate, lighten up!

Ohh yeah, I said you should join Labour or LTSA... that makes us even stevens then eh? You know what they say about not being able to take the heat...

[SpankMe]

I feel ill. :sick: Are there any sexy asian girlie nurses on site?

[Bend-it]

Perhaps rather than "asian" we should should use a term such as chinkies, nips, gooks, slanteyes, VC, charlie, rice eaters, slopes, or something else equally politically correct.

Ni na bu eh gu niang... Si ang mo gui luan luan kio wa mia, bueh si guey ha?? Tan wa mau lu eh bin ahh, ga lu gong! :headbang:

:ar15: Solli, my AK47 no ammo, pick up GI M16, Uncle Ho numba 1, GI numba ten!!

[Sniper]

I'll sell you some ARVN rifles. Never been fired and only dropped once

[bobsmith]

Sniper, read my signature.

I believe bend-it was initially only refering to the fact that 36% of accident cause by asians by itself doesn't mean anything, it was only substantiated on your later post where you reveled that 42.342% of cars are hired out by asians. (which by the was indicates that there is only slightly higher risk with asians hiring cars) I wonder what the similar statistic would be of people from none asian countries that drive on the right hand side having accidents.... now THAT would FULLY substantiate your argument. (so that we can have comparison... what side of the road do they drive on in south africa???)

[Biff]

Agreed. It should be 'fkin Chinese' IMO.

[Bend-it]

Nahh, we're past it, and all is forgven for some cheap cheap arvn rifles...

[Bend-it]

Sniper, read my signature.

I believe bend-it was initially only refering to the fact that 36% of accident cause by asians by itself doesn't mean anything, it was only substantiated on your later post where you reveled that 42.342% of cars are hired out by asians. (which by the was indicates that there is only slightly higher risk with asians hiring cars)

Actually, 36% crashes, and 42% hirers, means they are lower risk... :)

But like I said... ARVN rifle numba 5, you gimme original GI rifle, I give you boom boom long time

[SpankMe]

Asian <strike>mammaries</strike> memories

[Bend-it]

Wow!! This is the most successful thread I've ever started!! Think I might start posting contentious stuff more!! Great fun, just quite bad for work output here at the office...

[Biff]

And fat people. They can't drive proper either. A bloke down the pub told me that. Soitmustbethetruth.

And people with beards. Apparently they smell of garlic as well.

And don't get me started on bearded, garlic munching, fat Asian bastards.

[Swoop]

I am working with a few Koreans at the moment. What a bunch of funny buggers! They have a great sense of humour and would put a few kiwis to shame.

[Bend-it]

You ain't seen nothing yet!!

It's the bearded, garlic munching fat asian women drivers that are the problem!!

[Sniper]

I blame the English

[Zed]

Honestly, I hate the term. It's such a broad generalisation of people that it really is unhelpful for anything...

Which Asian you talking about? Chinese? Japanese? Korean? North or South? Malays? Indians? Thai? Cambodians? Hmong? Shan? Karen? Khmu? Khmer? Indonesian? Indonesian Chinese? Dayaks? I could go on for awhile, but you get my drift...I get your drift, but the drift most Kiwi's have with using the term "Asian" IS the fact that it covers so many different countries! Surely you don't expect us to know which country each driver is from, do you? It won't happen. I have on occasion had discussions with friends while driving along and witnessing bad driving and the odd accident, in the case where it's been an Asian driver one of us has said "looked like Japanese" and then the other says "no, that was Chinese?", then we both agree to disagree and just say "it was an Asian either way!". Keeping this in mind Bend-it, you are going to have to accept the terminology Kiwis use, because that's all it is, terminology. Imo the word Asian is not derogatory in most minds and there is no offence intended towards you by using it.:no:


Ok, my main beef is that each time someone says, "An asian driver did [insert bad driving behavour]."Honestly, in my experience of 20 years driving in NZ, Asians, Indians, and the elderly are the worst drivers I have personally witnessed on the roads. Many of my family, friends, and asscociates over the years that I have discussed this with have had similar experiences and would agree that the stereotype 'Asians are bad drivers' is deserved, unfortunately.

Now *racism* is the other side to the coin that others can discuss if they wish, but for me when I make a statement using the word Asian it simply means "from Asia somewhere", there's no intended racism or underlying prejudices, even on the road. But I don't speak for everyone here...<_<


In our company 42.342% (Hey thats what the spreadsheat says) were hires by those people classed as asian decent (sp)What I'd like to know is how many hires there were Sniper? Are we talking about a large number in the 1000's or low 100's?

[Bend-it]

I have on occasion had discussions with friends while driving along and witnessing bad driving and the odd accident, in the case where it's been an Asian driver one of us has said "looked like Japanese" and then the other says "no, that was Chinese?", then we both agree to disagree and just say "it was an Asian either way!". Keeping this in mind Bend-it, you are going to have to accept the terminology Kiwis use, because that's all it is, terminology.

Then just "the idiot driver" would suffice. Have you ever, on seeing bad European driving, see the urge to label them? German driver or french driver? Or swiss driver? Ahhh, it was European either way...

I suspect not... why not?


I have discussed this with have had similar experiences and would agree that the stereotype 'Asians are bad drivers' is deserved, unfortunately.

See, more stereotyping... If you drove on the streets on Singapore, Korea and Taiwan, you woud find it much different to India, Thailand, Indonesia and others. See what the stereotype does? It puts pre-conceived notions in people's minds when they see someone associated (often unfairly) with the target group of people.

NZ has the privilege of having incredibly low population density, and so drivers here drive differently from people from countries that do not. Not that either is wrong, just suited for different conditions. Instead of griping about "bad driving", maybe the "different driving" should be acknowledged, and more done in terms of driver training (at the cost to the immigrant) before allowing license conversion.



What I'd like to know is how many hires there were Sniper? Are we talking about a large number in the 1000's or low 100's?

Horse flogged to death, buried and never to be resurrected...

[Skyryder]

I'll give credit where credits due. They could teach our lot a thing or two in the manners department. But here's the thing, put an asian behind a spheical object, be steering wheel or a one dollar coin and their personality changes. The steering wheel seems to effect their english as they suddenly do not understand. The dollar coin highlights their mathmatical skills with the result that their english suddenly improves.

Could tell a few stories from On the Busses. In the main, if they can shaft you they will.

Singaporians were with out doubt the best to deal with. Japanese the worst. Koreans are the most westernised.

Skyryder

[Marmoot]

Im with Lou. 32% of our cars that have been damaged in accidents were hired out by asians. Of that 32%, 87% was the drivers fault and of that 32%, 40% of the cars were write offs.

I'll be happy stereotyping when it comes to asians in cars


Not bad, huh. What does that make...........68% of the damaged cars were by non-asians? That'd be western people?

[Ixion]

You're all wrong. It's the Welch. Always blame the Welch. Even Shakespeare did.
And the barstools stole my nth great grandfather's sheep (well, he blamed them, anyway) so that proves it.

It's all Mr Biff's fault. Cos he's Welch.

[Marmoot]

Don't mind me, I'm in my own little fantasy world :love:

please let me into your world........:love:

[Sniper]

What I'd like to know is how many hires there were Sniper? Are we talking about a large number in the 1000's or low 100's?

Its out of 10000 hires from last year

[SpankMe]

Asian girlie friends :love:

[Lias]

Ni na bu eh gu niang... Si ang mo gui luan luan kio wa mia, bueh si guey ha?? Tan wa mau lu eh bin ahh, ga lu gong! :headbang:

:ar15: Solli, my AK47 no ammo, pick up GI M16, Uncle Ho numba 1, GI numba ten!!
Ni shi wo de biao zv! Ni na bu eh gu niang!

[Bend-it]

Ni shi wo de biao zv! Ni na bu eh gu niang!

Wahh, ni shi na li lai de? Wo chong xin jia po lai... Xian zhai hui jia, min tian zai liao

Wow, where are you from? I'm from Singapore. Going home now, talk tomorrow.

[Lias]

Wahh, ni shi na li lai de? Wo chong xin jia po lai... Xian zhai hui jia, min tian zai liao

Wow, where are you from? I'm from Singapore. Going home now, talk tomorrow.

Hehehe :innocent:

I'm a white trash kiwi born and bred mate.. I just like to be able to insult everyone in their native language :Punk:

[SlowHand]

Not bad, huh. What does that make...........68% of the damaged cars were by non-asians? That'd be western people?

Oh don't be so direccist, what about the southerns, the northerns, blecks and the inbetweens??

Not to mention the centralians. thems the worst. You know what i reckon, send em all back. Blow up the planes, ships and the vehicals. First to take over the world wins.

[Fub@r]

The worst case of driving I have ever seen by someone from the continental region of East Asia and may I point out the guy was completely stationary as well......................he was in the left hand lane of a 3 lane motorway at the start of the St Lukes offramp in the middle of a work day reading a roadmap to see if this was the exit he needed to get off at!!!!!!!

Its examples like that that create the stereotype, yes it wrong, yes I understand where you are coming from but it will die down with future generations. We haven't gotten used to their driving you might say as its only been in the last few years there has been a massive influx, in particular to Auckland that their driving has become so noticiable so quickly. I think its 1 in 5 in Auckland are now of East Asian decent which has happened over 5 years. Its a culture shock for both sides

[bobsmith]

Actually, 36% crashes, and 42% hirers, means they are lower risk... :)

But like I said... ARVN rifle numba 5, you gimme original GI rifle, I give you boom boom long time

Shit, you're right sorry... see even asian math geniuses can get the math wrong sometimes...... (damn it, I'm pretty sure my brain is just failing me...)

[Drum]

You are only accountable for your own attitude towards others.

You cannot control the way other people think. Make sure your own attitudes are in order. Let others worry about theirs.

[McJim]

I've mentioned this on another thread but I spend most of my time emergency braking because of Falcon and Commodore drivers - possibly the "my vehicle is bigger than yours therefore I have right of way even though the law states that you have" but lets not generalise. Thererfore I've never got the handle on this blame the asians shit...and I live in Howick.

They say that one in five people in the world is chinese and there are five people in my family so one of them must be chinese. I'm pretty sure it's not me but it could be mum, dad, my brother dave or my sister Hoi Lin....but I reckon it's Dave.:rofl:

[Drum]

I............They say that one in five people in the world is chinese and there are five people in my family so one of them must be chinese. I'm pretty sure it's not me but it could be mum, dad, my brother dave or my sister Hoi Lin....but I reckon it's Dave.:rofl:

One of them may be gay too! Do any of your family dress up in biker outfits??

[McJim]

One of them may be gay too! Do any of your family dress up in biker outfits??

C'mon Drum - don't be coy, if you want a photo of my arse in leather trousers all you had to do was ask. I'll meet you down at the Blue Oyster Bar, fair enough?::killingme

[Fub@r]

One of them may be gay too! Do any of your family dress up in biker outfits??

Que "The Village People" :rockon:

[McJim]

Que "The Village People" :rockon:

Yeah - I was a Quantity Surveyor in a previous life - I'm sure I still have an old construction hard had kicking about somewhere....

[gijoe1313]

Aiyya dem gai gwei lao gong deng ye!? This thread has me rolling in on the rice covered shop floor of my mum and dad's chinese takeaway shop! :rofl:

Duh-damn, I've been having flashbacks to my life when I was a kid growing up in 80's NZ! I'm 3rd generation kiwi chinese - Great Grandad came over in the 1800's to get the gold from South Island (Gum Sarn).

The funny thing is ... I'm crap at maths - but I teach English at High School, I've learnt several martial arts so I can jump up and kick people in the head at random if I desire! I'm racist since I prefer my girlies asian (thanks Spankme! Got any asian girls in combat fatigues? I :love: my kawaii macho combat asian babes!)

I have to think about my responses in cantonese, but yet can follow any Hong Kong Martial Art Gun-Foo Flick in cantonese no prob! I cringe when I see a stereotypical scene with an asian involved (read : driving, arguing over cost of items and trying to park into a space too small for their car!) but yet laugh when I hear from my caucasian friends when they relate their "run-ins" with asians!

And oh yeah, I hate having to clarify peoples positions when they refer to "Asians" - when they ask me, I just say I'm an equal opportunity bigot against idiots of all nations, creeds, cultures and religions!

Now, any asians reading this have an eligible asian girl for me to marry? My mum is trying to arrange a marriage for me and I would rather have the option of having a choice in the matter! :sick: :crybaby: :wacko: :crazy: :sweatdrop

PS - I love anime, manga, Gundam, Sanrio Products, Pokky, Haw Haw flakes and other cliched asian market products!

[McJim]

PS - I love anime, manga, Gundam, Sanrio Products, Pokky, Haw Haw flakes and other cliched asian market products!

Yeah - but you also love stuff by Games Workshop so your street cred is buggered again:rofl:

[gijoe1313]

Yeah - but you also love stuff by Games Workshop so your street cred is buggered again:rofl:

Too true, too much dosh and not enuff bloody sense to know better.. but then I worked at GW for a while and was meant to be a bloody manager for one in HK! :doh: :sweatdrop :bash: :kick:

Besides, it takes one to know one! :o

[McJim]

Besides, it takes one to know one! :o

Ach ye got me!

[Fub@r]

Just for McJim :Punk:

http://www.officialvillagepeople.com/

http://www.rotten.com/library/culture/village-people/

[SpankMe]

hmmmm, wet asians :love:

[gijoe1313]

Thank you Spankme, thank you, dor jie, domo arigato gozaimasu, anyon-hasse-yo, ah you get the general idea...but wheres the asian gurlies with guns????

[Fub@r]

Thank you Spankme, thank you, dor jie, domo arigato gozaimasu, anyon-hasse-yo, ah you get the general idea...but wheres the asian gurlies with guns????

Just for you GI :done:

http://badgirls.web.infoseek.co.jp/photo1.html

http://badgirls.web.infoseek.co.jp/

[MacD]

Thank you Spankme, thank you, dor jie, domo arigato gozaimasu, anyon-hasse-yo, ah you get the general idea...but wheres the asian gurlies with guns????

LOL, they'll be here soon! ;)

By the way, have you seen SpankMe's other (http://spankme.dynu.com/spankgun.htm) websites (http://massmurder.zyns.com/)?

[Drum]

hmmmm, wet asians :love:

Mamas' makin Canton!

[bobsmith]

I just don't get this thing about asian chicks.... I'd take a beautiful brunette over an asian any day... oh hang on, I already have... better shut up..

[skelstar]

Have you SEEN the last 20 pictures that Spank has posted?!?!?!?!?

[bobsmith]

yeah, but asians just don't do it for me as I said.... See:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=60

Now... I do agree that a lot of asian women drivers are absolutely shocking...

Just look at the driving of my sister, mum and several of my aunties... There is a reason why if I go anywhere with them, I INSIST that I drive.... :no:

[edit] - reading through some previous posts... perhaps I'm too westernised since I'm a Korean??? then I'd rather be in the worst group of people to deal with... I'LL TAKE ALL YOUR MONEY AND CHEAT YOU BEFORE YOU REALISE IT!! MUHAHAHAHAHA.... (ok... back to my padded room now...)

[edit 2] - also: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=32302&page=9&highlight=bikini

[Marmoot]

The worst case of driving I have ever seen by someone from the continental region of East Asia and may I point out the guy was completely stationary as well......................he was in the left hand lane of a 3 lane motorway at the start of the St Lukes offramp in the middle of a work day reading a roadmap to see if this was the exit he needed to get off at!!!!!!!



Wotchutalkinbout?
Good that he stopped. He deserves some credit.

Rather than the fine young parnell yellow-haired species reading the map while driving that I saw the other day swerving left and right.....
Noticed she has nice boobs, so I refrained from yelling.
On 2nd tought, i should've given her the finger :love: .....give the finger....get it? get it? *snort*


Edit: Spank please don't be racist. We need some non-asians exposure too.

[SpankMe]

say when... :love:

[skelstar]

Swear to god if ANYONE says 'wh#n' ill red-rep them.

empty threat alert

[Sniper]

when.............................................. .................ever

[mstriumph]

That's 'coz they've experienced many kiwis who won't talk to them, or talk down to them when they do. .......................!!

- that's a bit of a generalisation isn't it?
seems risky to me, attributing a blanket motivation to ALL native-tongue-chatting groups based on a coupla samples you may have personal knowledge of

[and even the groups you KNOW of might have a different motivation for some chats than they do for others .....]

just thought i'd bring it up - since the basis of your thread is that generalizations cause problems in perception? .........:dodge:

but don't mind me - i'm used to you whiteys disregarding the sensibilities of us 6foot, left-handed, putty-coloured people .......:msn-wink:

[mstriumph]

i only read a coupla posts before posting the above ........

if i had realized that the thread had been whored from a semi-serious debate on the constructs of perception to something resembling the life of an aquatic suzi wong in high-heeled boots ....... mmm ..... don't think i would have bothered :shutup:

out of me depth, you see :corn:

ok - as you were!

[Brian d marge]

The defense would like to submit evidence to the court,,,,,

Who IS that masked man.......:innocent:

Stephen

BTW this years summer fashions in Tokyo are F#$$%%& FANTASTIC

[skelstar]

Imposter!

10c

[The_Dover]

Who IS that masked man.......:innocent:


That's Crazy Steve.

He tried to rob me in the warehouse in that costume and WINJA was dressed as a stormtrooper.

I've got photographic evidence.

[Bend-it]

And I GOT RED REPPED BY SOME WANKER XXXXX FOR STARTING THIS THREAD!!!

A thread that has inspired much good debate and not to mention interesting pics from spankme!

You bastard!! :tugger:

[skelstar]

Just chill mate. Everyone gets red-repped from time to time. Doesnt pay to broadcast who red-reps you eh?

Ill green rep you so you can 'recover' and get over it eh?

[Bend-it]

Yeah, don't mind if it was reasonable, but like what the heck?!?!

I even exercised restraint and didn't return the favour!

[skelstar]

I even exercised restraint and didn't return the favour!
Thats because you a mature and grown up and realise that KB is NOT real life. Theres far more important things to get upset about.

[Bend-it]

Thats because you a mature and grown up and realise that KB is NOT real life. Theres far more important things to get upset about.

Boo hoo... what if people don't love me anymore?? :crybaby:

Nevermind... my bike will always love me... :scooter:

[McJim]

Nevermind... my bike will always love me... :scooter:

Nah mate - don't do it - I burnt my dick in the exhaust.

[dawnrazor]

Well after generations of this nation jumping up and down, and shouting for attention and recognition on a world stage - you've now got it in spades (no pun intended), and one of the results of that is immigration, get used to it folks - you just made this country to damn attractive not to pass up, should have kept your gobs shut.

[Bend-it]

Yeah, burnt my arse on it too... now I use the handlebar...

[Marmoot]

U hu, Spankme......

We're waiting for the Illustration of The Day for today please.

It's a bit useless to subscribe to a thread if it doesn;t get updated.

[Bend-it]

U hu, Spankme......

We're waiting for the Illustration of The Day for today please.

It's a bit useless to subscribe to a thread if it doesn;t get updated.

What? The mental image of the quoted statement doesn't do it for you? :yes:

Yeah, burnt my arse on it too... now I use the handlebar...

[McJim]

What? The mental image of the quoted statement doesn't do it for you? :yes:

Please don't send photos Bend-it - we are merely beseeching Spank to submit more Asian Delection. Go back to your bike, and remember to sponge it down before taking it out on the road....

[SpankMe]

Todays Asian girlie instalment. :love:

[mstriumph]

................and realise that KB is NOT real life. ......................

it ISN'T?? :shutup:

nah - c'mon ............ as far as some of us are concerned, Toothfairy LIVES!!

[LilSel]

And the easter bunny!!!
Still not sure how bunnies make choc eggs tho... hmmm

[McJim]

Guess Spankme's library of nubile Asian ladies ain't as infinite as we had hoped...either that or some cruel b&^tard used the 'W' word....*sigh*

[SpankMe]

I have yet to begin to tap my library

[Lou Girardin]

OK, I'm bored with Asians. Any Eastern European chick pics?

[Finn]

Fuck you kiwis are a pathetic bunch. So it's okay to criticise other cultures just as long as it's not the maoris. Ohhhhh our precious little maoris. You should show some respect for Asians. They've helped keep our economy above water and if we could get over our save the whales & human rights bullshit, then we'd have a fantastic trading partner

[Lou Girardin]

and if we could get over our save the whales & human rights bullshit, then we'd have a fantastic trading partner

Yeah, if they want to kill their own people, harvest their organs, operate sweat shops and eat endangered species, what business is that of ours?
We need to get real, dollars are at stake.

[Finn]

Yeah, if they want to kill their own people, harvest their organs, operate sweat shops and eat endangered species, what business is that of ours?
We need to get real, dollars are at stake.

It's just vote catching bullshit Lou. Labour don't really give a shit about all that. Just look at NZ.

[Jamezo]

I like Asians a lot better than Maoris. (Generalising wheee!)

You see, I am friends with people from many races; just only the ones that are 'winners', the relatively sucessful and intelligent ones. Sucessful people are more akin to each other from whatever background.

The differences arise when one deals with the lower forms of life.

Maoris: 'thug', 'gansta' tendencies. Vaugely threatening through years of social conditioning.

Whites: White trash thugs. Can produce some truly unsavoury characters.

Asians: Usually harmless 'thugbodian' style. Infrequently appears 'tough', but really has a manga fetish. May eat household pets.

[bobsmith]

OK, I'm bored with Asians. Any Eastern European chick pics?

I second that.... MMMMmmmmmmm Russians......

[Marmoot]

I second that.... MMMMmmmmmmm Russians......


Aye! Big Breasted Russians please......they are Asians too. Look at the map.

bring the pictures on :yes:

[Macktheknife]

Then just "the idiot driver" would suffice. Have you ever, on seeing bad European driving, see the urge to label them? German driver or french driver? Or swiss driver? Ahhh, it was European either way...
.
Have you ever seen the Italians????? No really, you can tell their driving style a mile away. :dodge:

As for the rest:
The french drive with one hand on the horn and the other out the window. :shit:
The germans drive really fast and somehow manage to be polite.
The swiss are always found in clean cars, and are always on time. :gob:
Scandanavians are just amazing, nothing ever seems to faze them, except dry roads.

There are definately various grades of 'idiot drivers' but a friend of mine once described to me the worst possible combination of driver/vehicle/conditions.
An elderly Female (asian/italian?) taxi driver, driving a Volvo (4x4) taxi in rush hour, still wearing her Bowls uniform (with hat) after a light lunch and several sherries with the girls, in a pissing rain-storm.

[Lou Girardin]

Aye! Big Breasted Russians please......they are Asians too. Look at the map.

bring the pictures on :yes:

I'm talking about the Slavic ones. Far Eastern Russians are mongoloid.

[Lou Girardin]

Have you ever seen the Italians????? No really, you can tell their driving style a mile away. :dodge:


Strangely enough, I didn't see any archetypal Italian driving over there. They'd put Kiwis to shame with their lane discipline and courtesy. But then just about anyone else would. Even some fear crazed Lebanese escaping an F16 would be safer than most of our drivers.

[McJim]

Strangely enough, I didn't see any archetypal Italian driving over there. They'd put Kiwis to shame with their lane discipline and courtesy. But then just about anyone else would. Even some fear crazed Lebanese escaping an F16 would be safer than most of our drivers.

assolutamente!

[SpankMe]

Asian bikini girlies kissing :D

7--nXivLc58

Another boring day at work searchiing the net for porn.

[rwh]

I'll give credit where credits due. They could teach our lot a thing or two in the manners department. But here's the thing, put an asian behind a spheical object, be steering wheel or a one dollar coin and their personality changes. The steering wheel seems to effect their english as they suddenly do not understand. The dollar coin highlights their mathmatical skills with the result that their english suddenly improves.


Their maths knowledge is probably enough to know that neither of those objects is spherical, too ...

Richard

[SpankMe]

I am such a productive and indispensable employee. :zzzz:

[terbang]

hmmmmm, asians
Yup you got it..There are lots of good things about Asians..

[Storm]

You do good work Spank

[SwanTiger]

For everything I've done in life so far, not once have I been fucked over by an Asian. Indians and Europeans however, I don't have enough fingers and toes to count them on.

[duckaddict]

SpankMe, u da bess :lol:

[Biff]

Asian bikini girlies slurping

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7--nXivLc58&mode=related

Another boring day at work searchiing the net for porn.

............

[car]

As for the rest:
The french drive with one hand on the horn and the other out the window. :shit:
The germans drive really fast and somehow manage to be polite.
The swiss are always found in clean cars, and are always on time. :gob:
Scandanavians are just amazing, nothing ever seems to faze them, except dry roads.

Belgians: avoid, at all costs.

I've never had any trouble with French drivers (save for one lovely lady spanking my mate off his ZX6R outside Le Mans: gotta love that old priorite a droit rule) and, as I think you imply, German and Scandinavian drivers have been exemplary in my experience.

But Belgians, especially in Belgium, scare the bejesus out of me. If you're not doing a ton plus, less than a foot off the guy in front's bumper, you just aren't playing their game.

[heyjoe]

I just don't get this thing about asian chicks.... I'd take a beautiful brunette over an asian any day... oh hang on, I already have... better shut up..

Me too!:cool:

[Smorg]

old asian women = worst drivers EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[McJim]

old asian women = worst drivers EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But since you're writing from Blighty are you in fact refering to elderly women from India/Bangladesh/Pakistan/Sri Lanka and Afganistan?

Took me ages to get up to speed with the fact that over here they call people of oriental descent asian and it really fucks the Pakistanis off that they get called Indian over here!

I was taught to drive by an Indian fella in the UK - nice guy - he said from his observation it was young Indian women in the UK that were becoming the worst drivers - very agressive and not watching where they were going.

[gijoe1313]

I was taught to drive by an Indian fella in the UK - nice guy - he said from his observation it was young Indian women in the UK that were becoming the worst drivers - very agressive and not watching where they were going.

Its all those Bollywood movies they've been watching - thinking its all a song and dance and if they drive really fast, they'll get to the next happy scene in their lives! :wari:

[bobsmith]

Pakistanies, Indians, what's the difference... (p/t)

Anyhow, what I was really shocked when I first came here was that some people call people from India, Pakistan, etc... asians.... I always only called those from eastern asia (Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese) asians, we call Indians, Pakistanis, and afgans middle eastern people. or most people just refer to the whole lot as indians. (I know it's un PC but that's just what they actually call them in Korea)

[Marmoot]

old asian women = worst drivers EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Central Auckland Real Estate Agents of any racial descent = worst drivers ever!

Central Auckland tradespeople driving shabby white work vans = 2nd in category....

*starts putting on flame-retardant suit*

[SpankMe]

This thread needs some more arse.

[inlinefour]

hmmmmm, asians

My thoughts exactly. I have had several friends from these countries, sadly none like the ones that spank has provided as an example. Even they are to admit that yea there are some shockers within their race, but then again there are also the shockers within our own eh. Not much point tainting everyone with the same brush. Close minded people tend to do that... :Pokey:

[Brian d marge]

cough cough ..mutter mutter :spanking: naughty boy

Name and address withheld

[metric]

Honestly, I hate the term. It's such a broad generalisation of people that it really is unhelpful for anything apart from gross generalisations, often derogatory and almost always wrong.

- Asians are bad drivers
- Asians have squinty eyes
- Asians are geeky math geniuses
- Asians know kung fu

Which Asian you talking about? Chinese? Japanese? Korean? North or South? Malays? Indians? Thai? Cambodians? Hmong? Shan? Karen? Khmu? Khmer? Indonesian? Indonesian Chinese? Dayaks? I could go on for awhile, but you get my drift... Each of those people groups have populations larger than the entire NZ population!!

I agree. I went to school with asians, studied at uni with asians and now some of my best mates at work are asian. I reckon people need to open their minds up a bit...

[Insanity_rules]

Nice thread Bend-it. My oldest friend came from Hong Kong when he was a lad of 5. We made fun of each other for ages before we realised we were becoming really good friends.
His funniest asian relations story came from a night out drinking that I'll never forget. We both had this mate called Daniel who you could make do anything if he was drunk enough. We started chatting up this story to Daniel that all chinese takeaways in NZ secretly sold cat on their menu as it was an asian delicacy and if he went in and asked, he would be served it.
We stood in earshot of the door to hear the fallout and couldn't believe our ears ..... When Daniel asked the very chinese looking takeaway counter hand if they served cat, he shot back in a very kiwi accent "sure mate, we serve anybody in here".
Suffice to say our laughter gave they game away and Daniel sulked all the way home.

[gijoe1313]

:lol: Thats what we say along with other choice comebacks ... My olds have owned a chippie and chinese takeaway since I was a little nipper and seen our fair share of wags, abuse and lovely folk.

Other retorts :

"You serve cat?"
"Yes we do, make sure you take off your pet's flea collar and wash it first!"

"You serve flied lice?"
"Yes we do, would you like the side order of bear's paw and tiger penis?"

"You should give the fish for free since its ours under the Treaty of Waitangi"
"Yes its free for you, the $1.50 is for us processing and holding it for you"

"Why don't you go back to your own country?" <-- Caucasian
"Well mate, Great grandad got here in the 1800's...when did you lot land?"

"Ying chong ching chong"
"Fark! Didn't know you were the idiot from the other village! Only they talk like that!"

"So...is this authentic chinese food?"
"Mate, you wouldn't want our authentic chinese food! Go to some other chinese shop you've mistaken us for!"

"You don't look chinese"
"You don't look half as intelligent as you appear to be"

"Do you serve chinese?"
"No, they take all the shellfish, drive badly and force up house prices. Screw them!"

"Can I have some chinese?"
"Why not, try some caucasian, samoan, fijian, etc while you're at it!"

Yeah, my dad's hard case - always gives a serve when he serves :msn-wink:Mum just ends up rolling her eyes:confused: :whistle:

[Jonathan]

Went to Vietnam at the start of the year. Quite a few restaurants serving cat (a Chinese theory is that cat keeps you warm in winter). The poor things, hearing them meowing in a bag on a ferry really touched a nerve. We should just eat prey animals like cow. I like cow.

[The_Dover]

nothing wrong with eating pussy

[Lou Girardin]

nothing wrong with eating pussy

Once you get past the smell, you've got it licked.

[Jamezo]

From a Cambodian friend of mine:

(her Dad to her sister's fiancee, around the dinner table, with a straight face) 'For the best meat, you give the good meat to the cat, then you eat the cat.'

[heyjoe]

:lol: Thats what we say along with other choice comebacks ... My olds have owned a chippie and chinese takeaway since I was a little nipper and seen our fair share of wags, abuse and lovely folk.

Other retorts :

"You serve cat?"
"Yes we do, make sure you take off your pet's flea collar and wash it first!"

"You serve flied lice?"
"Yes we do, would you like the side order of bear's paw and tiger penis?"

"You should give the fish for free since its ours under the Treaty of Waitangi"
"Yes its free for you, the $1.50 is for us processing and holding it for you"

"Why don't you go back to your own country?" <-- Caucasian
"Well mate, Great grandad got here in the 1800's...when did you lot land?"

"Ying chong ching chong"
"Fark! Didn't know you were the idiot from the other village! Only they talk like that!"

"So...is this authentic chinese food?"
"Mate, you wouldn't want our authentic chinese food! Go to some other chinese shop you've mistaken us for!"

"You don't look chinese"
"You don't look half as intelligent as you appear to be"

"Do you serve chinese?"
"No, they take all the shellfish, drive badly and force up house prices. Screw them!"

"Can I have some chinese?"
"Why not, try some caucasian, samoan, fijian, etc while you're at it!"

Yeah, my dad's hard case - always gives a serve when he serves :msn-wink:Mum just ends up rolling her eyes:confused: :whistle:


LMAO :rofl:
You couldn't have said it better.

[gijoe1313]

From a Cambodian friend of mine:

(her Dad to her sister's fiancee, around the dinner table, with a straight face) 'For the best meat, you give the good meat to the cat, then you eat the cat.'

:lol: Must add that to the retorts when the customers ask "Do you use good meat?"

[Insanity_rules]

:lol: Thats what we say along with other choice comebacks ... My olds have owned a chippie and chinese takeaway since I was a little nipper and seen our fair share of wags, abuse and lovely folk.

Other retorts :

"You serve cat?"
"Yes we do, make sure you take off your pet's flea collar and wash it first!"

"You serve flied lice?"
"Yes we do, would you like the side order of bear's paw and tiger penis?"

"You should give the fish for free since its ours under the Treaty of Waitangi"
"Yes its free for you, the $1.50 is for us processing and holding it for you"

"Why don't you go back to your own country?" <-- Caucasian
"Well mate, Great grandad got here in the 1800's...when did you lot land?"

"Ying chong ching chong"
"Fark! Didn't know you were the idiot from the other village! Only they talk like that!"

"So...is this authentic chinese food?"
"Mate, you wouldn't want our authentic chinese food! Go to some other chinese shop you've mistaken us for!"

"You don't look chinese"
"You don't look half as intelligent as you appear to be"

"Do you serve chinese?"
"No, they take all the shellfish, drive badly and force up house prices. Screw them!"

"Can I have some chinese?"
"Why not, try some caucasian, samoan, fijian, etc while you're at it!"

Yeah, my dad's hard case - always gives a serve when he serves :msn-wink:Mum just ends up rolling her eyes:confused: :whistle:


I showed your reply to my chinese mate and he's currently rolling on the floor clutching his ribs.

[gijoe1313]

I showed your reply to my chinese mate and he's currently rolling on the floor clutching his ribs.

I guess it takes an asian to appreciate some of the finer points of it :msn-wink: The rest of the gweilou's can just eat creamofsumyungguy! j/k

Yeah, being a banana (yellow on the outside, white on the inside) :banana: in this day and age gives me some insights to both sides of the fence!

[McJim]

I showed your reply to my chinese mate and he's currently rolling on the floor clutching his ribs.

That wasn't very nice - distracting yer mate with the jokes and then kicking him in the ribs......

[Jamezo]

:lol: Must add that to the retorts when the customers ask "Do you use good meat?"
Oh he wasn't joking! :P

[GIXser]

Honestly, I hate the term. It's such a broad generalisation of people that it really is unhelpful for anything apart from gross generalisations, often derogatory and almost always wrong.

- Asians are bad drivers
- Asians have squinty eyes
- Asians are geeky math geniuses
- Asians know kung fu

Which Asian you talking about? Chinese? Japanese? Korean? North or South? Malays? Indians? Thai? Cambodians? Hmong? Shan? Karen? Khmu? Khmer? Indonesian? Indonesian Chinese? Dayaks? I could go on for awhile, but you get my drift... Each of those people groups have populations larger than the entire NZ population!!

Ok, my main beef is that each time someone says, "An asian driver did [insert bad driving behavour]." What they are implying is "so watch out for asians on the road". Why else would you include the person's racial description (however broad and inadequate)? Same applies to women and old people. If it was an average whitey (what is that anyway?), then people would just say "An idiot cager [insert bad driving behavour]."

Everytime someone makes a generalised statement like that, it just adds to very unhelpful racist feelings.

I'm all for general ribbing and piss-takes, but it's quite clear at times when it's not a piss-take and reveals underlying prejudices.

Okay, rant over :done:

Happy again :Punk:

when you go to the zoo do you look at the monkeys and say, oh there .. a spider monkey or.. oh blimey.. there is a tamarin monkey.. no you just say ''look at those monkeys"
same with asians... you just say ,,, look at those monkeys..!!!!!! oh... (i mean asians.....)

[GIXser]

only fucking kidding people------

[slimjim]

Honestly, I hate the term. It's such a broad generalisation of people that it really is unhelpful for anything apart from gross generalisations, often derogatory and almost always wrong.

- Asians are bad drivers
- Asians have squinty eyes
- Asians are geeky math geniuses
- Asians know kung fu

Which Asian you talking about? Chinese? Japanese? Korean? North or South? Malays? Indians? Thai? Cambodians? Hmong? Shan? Karen? Khmu? Khmer? Indonesian? Indonesian Chinese? Dayaks? I could go on for awhile, but you get my drift... Each of those people groups have populations larger than the entire NZ population!!

Ok, my main beef is that each time someone says, "An asian driver did [insert bad driving behavour]." What they are implying is "so watch out for asians on the road". Why else would you include the person's racial description (however broad and inadequate)? Same applies to women and old people. If it was an average whitey (what is that anyway?), then people would just say "An idiot cager [insert bad driving behavour]."

Everytime someone makes a generalised statement like that, it just adds to very unhelpful racist feelings.

I'm all for general ribbing and piss-takes, but it's quite clear at times when it's not a piss-take and reveals underlying prejudices.

Okay, rant over :done:

Happy again :Punk:

:baby: :baby: :crybaby: get over it,:Pokey: be a native:mad:

[badmofo]

The problem is that when people get cut up by asians on the road it's easy to steroetype because you notice that they're asian more (if you're a honky). I've been nearly killed by drivers of countless races but asians stand out more so people say "bloody asians" or whatever and pigeon hole a whole continent of people into the bad driver category. If it's a honky that's driving two feet off your back tyre you just say "fucking idiot" with no reference to race. From my experience I'd say drivers are drivers and race doesn't make much difference, except christchurch drivers, those guys are nuts.

[car]

Belgians: avoid, at all costs.

I've never had any trouble with French drivers (save for one lovely lady spanking my mate off his ZX6R outside Le Mans: gotta love that old priorite a droit rule) and, as I think you imply, German and Scandinavian drivers have been exemplary in my experience.

But Belgians, especially in Belgium, scare the bejesus out of me. If you're not doing a ton plus, less than a foot off the guy in front's bumper, you just aren't playing their game.

Having been in God's own for nigh on a week now, I've got to say that Kiwis aren't very high up my list of the world's most careful, observant and courteous drivers. Demerits for all of you, I'm afraid. Especially anyone driving a slammed ricer with a stupid spoiler bondo'd onto the boot. Oh, and the private plates -- high correspondence between private plates and potato-headed driver, it seems.

Anyway, nice to be here, and three cheers to McJim for making me and the clan feel welcome.

[Grahameeboy]

Having been in God's own for nigh on a week now, I've got to say that Kiwis aren't very high up my list of the world's most careful, observant and courteous drivers. Demerits for all of you, I'm afraid. Especially anyone driving a slammed ricer with a stupid spoiler bondo'd onto the boot. Oh, and the private plates -- high correspondence between private plates and potato-headed driver, it seems.

Anyway, nice to be here, and three cheers to McJim for making me and the clan feel welcome.

You get used to the driving Car.............like anything, we just need to get on with it eh...........been here 8 years and you just have to ride according to the conditions.....

[car]

You get used to the driving Car.............like anything, we just need to get on with it eh...........been here 8 years and you just have to ride according to the conditions.....

I'll live, mate. And it's certainly no worse than the UK. I reckon a couple of weeks in California has spoiled me a little bit.

[Grahameeboy]

The problem is that when people get cut up by asians on the road it's easy to steroetype because you notice that they're asian more (if you're a honky). I've been nearly killed by drivers of countless races but asians stand out more so people say "bloody asians" or whatever and pigeon hole a whole continent of people into the bad driver category. If it's a honky that's driving two feet off your back tyre you just say "fucking idiot" with no reference to race. From my experience I'd say drivers are drivers and race doesn't make much difference, except christchurch drivers, those guys are nuts.

Exactly......if we were driving in Asia it would be the other way around.....number of people who complain Asian's cannot speak English.....if they were in Asia they would have less cluse about speaking Asian than Asians do at speaking English..........

[Grahameeboy]

I'll live, mate. And it's certainly no worse than the UK. I reckon a couple of weeks in California has spoiled me a little bit.

Yep NZ is heaven compared to S.W.A.T in UK eh.......almost year round riding...blah blah

[terbang]

Asian <strike>mammaries</strike> memories

You've got a few good points there Spank..