Pedestrians....

[Grantasaurus]

I just about hit some silly pedestrian today. She didn't look... First mistake. She also had big, ugly looking headphones for her iPod on... 2nd mistake.

Was she trying to make it as a Darwin award cantidate?

When I tooted at her for having to make an emergency stop, she gave me a nasty glare and made a signal that seemed to say I should have ridden around her. This really wasn't an option, as I had no idea whether she was going to keep sauntering across, or see me and stop halfway.

I can't decide whether this was a damned if you do / damned if you don't situation, or whether I made a mistake and could have dealt with the situation better. What does everyone think?

[Jantar]

I can't decide whether this was a damned if you do / damned if you don't situation, or whether I made a mistake and could have dealt with the situation better. What does everyone think?
You didn't hit her. so you didn't make any mistakes, she did. :scooter:

[Zed]

I just about hit some silly pedestrian today. She didn't look... First mistake. She also had big, ugly looking headphones for her iPod on... 2nd mistake.

I can't decide whether this was a damned if you do / damned if you don't situation, or whether I made a mistake and could have dealt with the situation better. What does everyone think?Sounds like it waz more the fault of the pedestrian than yerself matey. What were the circumstances of the crossing, it wasn't a pedestrian crossing was it?

[far queue]

... When I tooted at her for having to make an emergency stop, she gave me a nasty glare and made a signal that seemed to say I should have ridden around her ...I trust you gave the silly bitch a gesture back as you went on your way.

[gamgee]

did you ride really close and give her a fright? thats what I do, makes them more carefull for next time, also gives us a chance to get our own back, as you can be sure the ones that aren't looking when walking out, are the same ones who aren't looking when pulling out, and if she really looked like she'd been beaten with an ugly stick, hey whats another whack around the side of the head gonna hurt her?

[Flatcap]

What is it with pedestrians - they are always looking the wrong way when they step out, if they look at all. I do enjoy making them shit their pants with a good blast on the horn

[crashe]

Question: Was this pedestrian on a pedestrian crossing?


If yes, then you are meant to stop and allow them to cross until they reach the other side of the road.


The new road code about pedestrain crossing is now law.

[Drum]

Question: Was this pedestrian on a pedestrian crossing?


If yes, then you are meant to stop and allow them to cross until they reach the other side of the road.


The new road code about pedestrain crossing is now law.

The law on pedestrian crossing is very strict. You must be able to stop for a pedestrian on a crossing even if they dont look, and run out in front of you - it would still be your fault.

Though you havn't said if it was a crossing involved. Either way - you didnt hit her - so no harm done.
Just remember, that it doesnt matter whos right and wrong when youre lying in a hospital bed!

[JimO]

u hit a pedestrian either on a crossing or jaywalking your in the shit not them

[Maha]

Step1.... Visor up
Step 2.... serve it up
Step 3....Rev it up
Step 4.... dont fuck it up......:done:

[Zed]

u hit a pedestrian either on a crossing or jaywalking your in the shit not themIf it's a ped crossing and you hit them then you are in the wrong, but if they are jaywalking and you hit them then they are in the wrong cos jaywalking is a fineable offense! :weird:

[JimO]

If it's a ped crossing and you hit them then you are in the wrong, but if they are jaywalking and you hit them then they are in the wrong cos jaywalking is a fineable offense! :weird:


WRONG WRONG WRONG a jaywalking retard walked on to the road a few years ago as my wife was turning left at a busy intersection.....result...him broken leg.....result...... her charged and convicted with careless driving 6 months loss of licence and $500 fine plus $900 for temporary licence doesnt matter how it happens motorist vrs pedestrian motorist always in wrong.

[Zed]

WRONG WRONG WRONG a jaywalking retard walked on to the road a few years ago as my wife was turning left at a busy intersection.....result...him broken leg.....result...... her charged and convicted with careless driving 6 months loss of licence and $500 fine plus $900 for temporary licence doesnt matter how it happens motorist vrs pedestrian motorist always in wrong.Hmmm sounds like your wife got a harsh deal, if in fact the ped was jaywalking!

There's a good short article on the subject I found here (http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411361/746944).

Excerpt from the article:

"Police complain they are effectively powerless to stop jaywalking.

It is illegal to cross the road within 20 metres of a pedestrian crossing and people face a potential fine of $35, but the police say it is too time consuming to prosecute and so don't issue tickets.

Police insist the ability to issue an infringement notice would be the only way to stop kamikaze pedestrians, some of whom appear to be bent on self-destruction."

[Lord Derosso]

[QUOTE=Grantasaurus;740017]When I tooted at her for having to make an emergency stop, she gave me a nasty glare


I always thought you were not suppose to try and stop when confronted with a 'dog' or similar beastie. Unless its a horse of course of course..... hows that poem go? Sounds like this one would still have hurt you more than her. Had a dog attack me once that ended up with a boot in its face at 80 kph. I don't think it chased bikes after that and it actually lived not to bark about it later. Had very little time to react. Thank the lord for modern brakes though as they are sooooooo much better than brakes even 10 years ago.

[Drunken Monkey]

... jaywalking is a fineable offense! :weird:

As far as I am aware "jaywalking", in New Zealand, is NOT a legal term; specifically you won't find the word "jaywalking" in the Land Transport Act (irrespective of legal status) - it is only a 'common use' term, an American one at that, of which it is a bad habbit to emply. Our law is based on English law, where "the practice of crossing roads wherever convenient is both commonplace and legal", ergo there is such thing as "jaywalking".
In the USA, while definitions do vary from state to state, it does have legal definition; something along the lines of "violation of pedestrian traffic regulations and laws" (IIRC), i.e. it is not limited to crossing a road in an unsafe or dangerous manner.

Not that anyone cares about details anymore... :(

[Macktheknife]

Good on you for stopping mate, and for thinking about the impact of it later. As others have mentioned, you would have been in the wrong regardless. Although I have heard of someone who stopped in time, got off the bike and smacked the pedestrian in the head then carried on!
Sounds like a candidate huh?

[Grantasaurus]

There was no pedestrian crossing for miles...

I fully locked up the back trying to avoid hitting her.

Just glad I didn't hit her, would no doubt have got me in shit. That Jaywalking law sounds like a big grey area.

[Drunken Monkey]

Just glad I didn't hit her, would no doubt have got me in shit. That Jaywalking law sounds like a big grey area.

It shouldn't be, I think you'll find the cases where a driver was charged with careless (or whatever) when a pedestrian has been hit any significant distance from a controlled crossing or intersection are the exception not the rule. Pedestrians are still duty bound to make sure the way is clear before stepping out (even at pedestrian crossings). Not that you want to tempt fate...

[Lord Derosso]

Interesting. Then the Wellington City Council and Police are breaking the law by having 'Jaywalkers' blitzs and issuing people $200 instant fines or whatever?? Which has happened at times. I thought the law stated that you were 'jaywalking' if you crossed the road within X metres of a pedestrian crossing?? I don't have a book so cant remember the details.

[Drunken Monkey]

Ergo my point on page one. If people didn't adopt non-legal terms, there wouldn't be any confusion. Crossing a road and failing to use a controlled crossing if you are within a certain distance of the crossing is illegal, it's just that here, "jaywalking" is not the correct term for it.

[Grantasaurus]

Noooo, don't use ergo instead of therefore, it just sounds so pointy headed.

Latin is a dead language people!

[Lord Derosso]

I presume the term comes from the Jay bird? Buses give me the willies. In Wellington you have to be really really careful as they are plentiful, fast and quite quiet. I have seen so many people nearly wiped out because they are distracted, usually on the cellphone, whilst trying to cross Wellingtons very narrow CBD busy streets. They aren't anywhere near even half the width of say Queen Street in Auckland and I think a lot of people just take the risk. I know I do too but I always wait for buses as they can tend to be on top of you very quickly. I am not really sure that the 30 KPH limit is been strictly held to but I have noticed a drop in speed of the buses since that poor guy got hit some days ago. I haven't seen any form of enforcement either as promised but its not if I hang around all day to see it neither. I would be curious to know what Insurance Companies do in cases like this if the pedestrian claims the bike rider is at fault.

[Lord Derosso]

Noooo, don't use ergo instead of therefore, it just sounds so pointy headed.

Latin is a dead language people!

I was wondering what that meant ! Thanks now I will be able to go back and actually see the point made.

If Latin is dead... how come they aren't naming flowers 'Lord Derosso' ??

[KLOWN]

for a start latin is cool! but what u shoulda done is hit her just hard enough to knock her down then gone to the police and put in a complaint against her for intentionally trying to get hit by you. It always seems that the police believe whoever gets to them first.

[Lord Derosso]

How do you explain away the tyre marks all over her back though??

I mean ..... five times !! ????

[KLOWN]

How do you explain away the tyre marks all over her back though??

I mean ..... five times !! ????


they were already there ! of course!

[Mom]

A few years ago i had the misfortune to hit a pedestrian on my bike..........
Little old man simply stepped out in front of me from between parked cars, not sure shore who got the biggest fright, me taking the evasive action attempting to avoid him, or him when my mirror clipped him. I stopped and issued a few choice words of advice :tugger: regarding him taking more care to not try and knock me off my bike and went on my way...
Thinking on it a bit later (as I had drawn blood on the bloke) i went and reported it to the local police.....the cop i spoke to just laughed and said served him right! :yeah:

[Zed]

A few years ago i had the misfortune to hit a pedestrian on my bike........the cop i spoke to just laughed and said served him right! :yeah:Haha you're a danger to society Mom! :shit:

[Uncle B]

Got emailed this today.
Bloody funny
Enjoy.

[sunhuntin]

i hit some kid on my bicycle coming home from school one day....thought hed be a smart ass and walk out in front of me...i didnt bother to change my course and ran straight into him.
also had some kid pretend to run out in front of my motorbike once. jerk. if id been able to i would have stopped and belted him. kid was young, but old enough to know better.

[JimO]

The cuntstable and senior sargent that we dealt with said that it doesnt matter what the pedestrian is doing or where on the road they are if they are hit by a vehicle the driver is always in the wrong.......you guys can say what you like but my wife has the conviction to prove it

[Street Gerbil]

Perhaps you should have stopped and explained the lady that her suicidal tendency is not a good reason for unwarranted jailtime for somebody else.
Or as they post on Air Force bases: "please, exercise caution when crossing the runway - expensive fighter plane may suffer damage in a collision".

[Ixion]

The law



LAND TRANSPORT (OFFENCES AND PENALTIES) REGULATIONS 1999

11.1(1) Pedestrian fails to 35 - - -
remain on footpath
11.4(1) Pedestrian/rider of 35 - - -
mobility device/wheeled
recreational device fails
to cross road at right
angle to roadway
11.5 Pedestrian/rider of 35 - - -
mobility device/wheeled
recreational device on
pedestrian crossing fails
to give vehicle time to
give way


I like 11.1(1)

11.4(1) is jaywalking

Mind you I doubt anyone has ever been given a ticket for any of these

[JeremyW]

A good slap around the chops at 40km/h shud wake her up....

I know how you feel buddy had the same thing happen on my push bike many times.

[Grantasaurus]

Yeah, that or a nice jump off the bike flying tackle, would have cured her nicely :)

[vifferman]

I just about hit some silly pedestrian today. She didn't look... First mistake. She also had big, ugly looking headphones for her iPod on... 2nd mistake.
When I tooted at her for having to make an emergency stop, she gave me a nasty glare and made a signal that seemed to say I should have ridden around her. This really wasn't an option, as I had no idea whether she was going to keep sauntering across, or see me and stop halfway.
Whelp, I'll tell you my personal experience.
I'm sitting at the traffic lights, two lanes each way, and it's about to go green. A gaggle of pedestrians are crossing, illegally, on the other side of the intersection.
The light goes green, I take off, slowly, and when I get closer to the pedestrians, tootle them melodiously. All but one of them scuttle back to the safety of the kerb/curb/kerb/footpath. I watch the lone pedstrian, now in the middle of the road, still headed for the other shore.
I decide to swerve, and go around behind her.
Just as I got close to her, she stopped, and turned 180 degrees, but to her left, so she was facing away from me the whole time. I braked, and she stepped smack-dab right into my path. I hit her leg with the front wheeel, bowling her over, and of course now my bike has lost steering, and I hit the deck.
Her leg was broken in two places, and she spent a week in hospital and had to pay ~$3000 for my bike damages.

What do I think?
Be very, very, wary around pedestrians, as they are unpredictable, dangerously so.

[JeremyW]

Yeah, that or a nice jump off the bike flying tackle, would have cured her nicely :)

haha might not be so good for not-smashing-up-bike tho....

[pritch]

One is always just a little suss of things that appear on the 'Net but the name and address check out on this.

[magicfairy]

What is it with pedestrians - they are always looking the wrong way when they step out, if they look at all. I do enjoy making them shit their pants with a good blast on the horn

It's even more fun if they are crossing when the little man is red and you are on green light, (so they know they are in the wrong) rev the bike a bit to make it seem like you are going speed up and run them over, blast the horn and watch them turn their "I don't care" saunter into a "shit I'm going to get run over" scurry. Especially the snotty tarts in high heels.
:lol:

[MrMelon]

One word... Air horns.

I've made many a pedestrian who didn't look before walking out in front of me jump!

[Str8 Jacket]

One word... Air horns.

I've made many a pedestrian who didn't look before walking out in front of me jump!

umm, thats 2 words....

[Wasp]

I've got an idea!!!!

Slam on bikes brakes, hop off said bike putting it on its side stand, trip (read push/shove) said stupid pedastrian over, hop back on bike and ride away laughing.....

i suppose that counts as assault though?

[Str8 Jacket]

I've got an idea!!!!

Slam on bikes brakes, hop off said bike putting it on its side stand, trip (read push/shove) said stupid pedastrian over, hop back on bike and ride away laughing.....

i suppose that counts as assault though?

Well then you better make sure you do a good job. And ya better do it quick or someone will prob try and steal your bike while your off it....

[Swoop]

Got emailed this today.
Bloody funny
Enjoy.

One is always just a little suss of things that appear on the 'Net but the name and address check out on this.
A repost in the same thread??????????
FFS...


What gets me is the LCTP's (Lycra Clad Toss Pots) that RIDE their treddlies across the crossing... once again against the law!

[JeremyW]

One word... Air horns.

I've made many a pedestrian who didn't look before walking out in front of me jump!

Air horns on the Street Magic! Awesome...

[Grantasaurus]

I think that on really dodgy intersections they should put up a big sign below the signal, just saying "Think about it"

[2QK2C]

never really had problems with pedestrians but cars who dont properly give way or fully stop at stop signs almost crash into me every time,
its bloody annoying,


i just changed my plugs and air filter + cleaned the carbs out changed the oil and oil filter, and OMG i swear i got a 50% power gain. :D