Shooting Hibernating Bears. Where's The Skill In That?

[RiderInBlack]

What kind of losers thinks they are cool Shooting Hibernating Bears? Where is the challange and hunting skill it that? Just finished watching an artical on TV3 about Euros and US wa*kers hunting hibernating Brown Bears in Russia, and I'm really pissed-off.
Should make them hunt Grizzles with a hunting knife in Summer.
May Herne and Nature have their revenge on them.

Sorry just very pissed off and need ta rant (it's that or I go hunting gutless loser hunters that have no idea of huntsmanship).

[McJim]

Where's the skill in shooting any kind of animal? If you want to kill something for a challenge do it with your bare hands.

The only time you should whip a gun out is at the point where you're going to die if you don't (starvation or about to get eaten yourself for example). Other than that guns are just a visible way of seeing that a fella has issues and a tiny penis. A bit like big engined cars.

[The Pastor]

Guns for puns!

Bears taste sooooo good though. Nothing like a big bear after a long treak into the bush!

[MD]

RIB- you beat me too it. I was thinking of starting a thread to cool off my anger over that story. Total cowards and wankers. $1500 they pay to shoot a defenceless animal that can hardly open its eyes let alone run to save itself. And they leave the cubs to freeze and starve to death. It was just mindless slaughter. About five arseholes standing at a safe distance all taking aim to kill the bear as the dogs woke it.

I wish someone would put up a bounty to the local poor Rusky peasants- $$$ if you kill one of these evil cowards that don't deserve to share this planet with other lifeforms.
My kids were nearly in tears seeing that.

[RiderInBlack]

My kids were nearly in tears seeing that.Aye. Cut me up a lot more than Steve Erwin's Death (he always accepted the risks he took with animals and never acted cowardly in dealing with them) and I couldn't give a shit about Andre Agassi quitting tennis.

[marty]

me too. the russian govt. should do sdomething about it - it is their country's heritage disappearing for what? people would pay $1500 or more for eco tourism any day

[oldguy]

What kind of losers thinks they are cool Shooting Hibernating Bears? Where is the challange and hunting skill it that? Just finished watching an artical on TV3 about Euros and US wa*kers hunting hibernating Brown Bears in Russia, and I'm really pissed-off.
Should make them hunt Grizzles with a hunting knife in Summer.
May Herne and Nature have their revenge on them.

Sorry just very pissed off and need ta rant (it's that or I go hunting gutless loser hunters that have no idea of huntsmanship). Didn't see the program but totally agree mate,

[Silage]

Yes totally agree RIB. To see the footage of getting a dog to find and annoy a hibernating bear until the poor bleary-eyed thing staggers out of its hole just to be shot at close range is totally senseless.

Anyone who hangs a trophy on their wall from this has nothing to "show off". Gutless.

[vs04]

Tie the arseholes to a tree just as the bear starts waking up.I wonder how hungry a bear is after hibernation.

[ogr1]

Yep, evil cowardly tw@ts, maybe when they've made all wildlife extinct?
We should put these very sad feckers in the zoo and put up a sign that reads
BIG WHITE HUNTER (Cowardlious Dickus)
Do not feed (ever) but feel free to use the complimentary cattle prod.

[C_A]

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/26/25995326_full.jpg
awesome.

although it's gotta be sustainable
and the way these losers are doing it, shooting hibernating bears, is cowardly and very very immoral IMO.

shoot them in their sleep, see how they like it

[Finn]

If you want to kill something for a challenge do it with your bare hands.

Have you any idea how difficult it is to kill a baby fur seal with your bare hands? A club is much more humane.

[Patrick]

And those pesky Kiwis... those beaks are sharp... Tastes like Chatham Island Black Robins though...

[Finn]

And those pesky Kiwis... those beaks are sharp... Tastes like Chatham Island Black Robins though...

I ran over a kiwi once. I swerved to give it a scare and the stupid thing didn't even try to fly off. Crrrrunch.

[metric]

those hunters = one word -> pathetic

fucking chicken shits...

[Patrick]

fucking chicken shits...

Must have grabbed the rooster instead of the hen perhaps???

[Lou Girardin]

Heroes, every one of them. I'd like to see them armed with a knife and dropped near a hungry Kodiak or Grizzley.

[Swoop]

Totally with you.
A disgusting approach to hunting, and one that should be made illegal in Russia.

[McJim]

Have you any idea how difficult it is to kill a baby fur seal with your bare hands? A club is much more humane.

Okay - conceeded - especially since Heidi Klum said Seal Loves Clubbing.....

[Finn]

In light of the recent death of Steve Irwin, I say it's time we showed all animals who is at the top of the food chain.

[Deano]

In light of the recent death of Steve Irwin, I say it's time we showed all animals who is at the top of the food chain.

What animals - they'll all be bloody extinct.

[Patrick]

In light of the recent death of Steve Irwin, I say it's time we showed all animals who is at the top of the food chain.

The KAHUI'S???? I see one of them is in for rape now:Offtopic:

[Finn]

The KAHUI'S???? I see one of them is in for rape now:Offtopic:

You're being racist now Patrick. He was just exercising his right to enforce his aroha.

Anyway, back on topic. I really miss Steve. There is a serious lack of passionate people on this planet.

[Patrick]

You're being racist now Patrick. He was just exercising his right to enforce his aroha.

Anyway, back on topic. I really miss Steve. There is a serious lack of passionate people on this planet.

Nah.. far from it. They are animals and the law abiding are the top of the food chain.

Wonder if they will do a reality TV show to find Steves replacement as frontman for Ozzie Zoo? Go FINN!!!

[Beemer]

Aye. Cut me up a lot more than Steve Erwin's Death (he always accepted the risks he took with animals and never acted cowardly in dealing with them) and I couldn't give a shit about Andre Agassi quitting tennis.


Have to agree with you on the Agassi front - half the bloody news was devoted to his retirement - and he's not even a kiwi!

Shooting or harming defenceless animals will never be right. Like those ones who feature on the SPCA programme because they neglect their animals. Should round all them up and let us go out to hunt their sorry arses!

[scumdog]

These arsehole bear-killers are giving hunters a bad name, and Russia won't stop it 'cos there's money to be made.....

[Karma]

Those pesky bears!

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[ajturbo]

i just wish the rabbits would hold still.. dam things keep running, i even ask them to stop!!!!
they are like women... never listen to me:innocent:

[SpankMe]

That is so fucked up. At least something is being done.

http://www.savebears.org/bear_news/dapursuelegal.htm


Where's the skill in shooting any kind of animal? If you want to kill something for a challenge do it with your bare hands.

I've seen many a video of armed hunters taken out by big cats. Having a rifle didn't help them any. Most guys I know who pig hunt, do so only with dogs and a knife.

me, I just prefer to hunt bunnys. I hate the fury, chocolate egg shitting little fuckers. :angry:

[Paul in NZ]

Those guys are NOT hunters...

They are not even assasins... Bloody disgusting and yet - sorry to say it happens here too. People come here to shoot trophy class stags on private game parks.... The guide always seems to be able to find one too.... (probably 'cos he just let it go there that morning)

There ARE proper safaris where people take the luck of the hunt and put in the grunt BUT there are a lot of expensive turkey shoots as well..

[Lou Girardin]

Nah.. far from it. They are animals and the law abiding are the top of the food chain.



Au contraire, they prey on us. We are lower.
Unless you guys let us shoot them.

[James Deuce]

As disgusting as it is, they're better dead than being baited or having a drain inserted in their gall bladder.

[Patrick]

Au contraire, they prey on us. We are lower.
Unless you guys let us shoot them.

Ok.............

[sels1]

And those pesky Kiwis... those beaks are sharp... Tastes like Chatham Island Black Robins though...

Ha - I heard the Kakapo tasted better.....

[Patrick]

Ha - I heard the Kakapo tasted better.....

Only with freshly sauteed tuatara eggs...

[The_Dover]

The real skill is in skinning the bear afterwards, taking care to get the hide off with feet and head intact. what good is a hearth rug without the paws?

Shooting a bear whether awake or not doesn't require much skill.

[sunhuntin]

i turned it off. those rich assholes need to be shot themselves....i wish those russians would think about the generations not born who wont be able to experience such wild life?

[Lias]

Shooting them while half asleep is pretty astastic.

I dont have a problem with animals being hunted, even "endangered" animals so long as its done in small numbers, and the profits are put into ensuring there are more of that animal to shoot in the future.

I've also always wanted some blue whale penis bar stools like aristotle onasis had on his yacht.. I thought that was just classy.

[jrandom]

guns are just a visible way of seeing that a fella has... a tiny penis.

You seem aggrieved. Would you prefer me to whip it out and show you?

[jrandom]

Did the news coverage mention whether there were enough bears to go around? One would hope it wasn't a conservation issue into the bargain.

What are these 'hunters' doing with the bears' remains? Trophies, presumably? Sad, unprincipled gits, the lot of them. Fat pasty losers. Probably pedophiles, too. Protestants, even.

Steve Irwin would have ripped them all a new one. Requescat in pace, to him and the bears.

[doc]

I love animals "They're delicious"

[RiderInBlack]

Did the news coverage mention whether there were enough bears to go around? One would hope it wasn't a conservation issue into the bargain.Yep it did. Guess what, Yep the Brown Bear are head to the indangered list.

[pritch]

I did catch that clip on TV and was pissed off. People who don't know any better will lump all hunters in with those turkeys. (Just as some members of the public think anybody on a motorcycle is a gang member.)

The usual term for any form of hunting as one sided as that is "decadent", which pretty much sums it up.

In the argument to hunt or not to hunt, the vegetarians hold the moral high ground. If you eat meat but are against hunting you stand to be accused of just letting someone else do your dirty work.:devil2:

[James Deuce]

In the argument to hunt or not to hunt, the vegetarians hold the moral high ground.

I didn't spend 2 million years climbing to the top of the food chain to eat fucking vegetables.

A battered vegetarian on a stick will do nicely thanks.

[jrandom]

If you eat meat but are against hunting you stand to be accused of just letting someone else do your dirty work.

Oh, arr. My three-year-old son had his inaugural .22 target shooting session, followed by helping me butcher a goat or three, last Sunday afternoon. He was fascinated. Human aversion to killing things and seeing the runny bits come out is entirely the result of social conditioning. It's pointless, futile and usually hypocritical.

I respect vegetarians, of course, but just between us, you know, on the quiet-like in case any of them are listening... they always seem so limp, don't they?

Man need MEAT.

[RiderInBlack]

Just a point of clarification here:
I am not against all hunting. I have no problem with killing if if ya going ta eat it and you have respect for what the environment can sustain (But then I have no problem with other forms of life killing us to live ether). I have no problem with killing if it is needed to control a species from causing environmental disasters (too bad we can't thin the Homo Sapien Epidemic down too, just half pie joking there).
Hunting for sport I can understand were some skill and risk is involved, and I respect hunters that care enough about their pray that they make a effort to ensure that species survival.
BUT I have no time for any wally that is in ta pointless killing, that has taken very little skill or risk, just because they can.

[jrandom]

helping me butcher a goat or three...

By the way, chaps, when I say 'butcher', I mean butcher. I'd already shot them earlier in the day. Properly, with no slow painful deaths involved. And I bloody well knackered myself out carrying the hairy bastards several klicks back across country, too, so don't anyone ever accuse me of being a degenerate dilettante pseudo-hunter.

Goats may be pests, but I've never been able to bring myself to shoot them like possums or rabbits. They're just a bit to intelligent to deserve being gunned down without some useful purpose in mind. Like curry.

Mmmm. Curry.

Actually, if one isn't up to the intricacies of curry cooking, a nice tender haunch of goat, rubbed down with olive oil and rosemary, with a few cloves of garlic chopped up and stuffed into slits, and roasted slow in the oven with root veges, is just magic. I'm salivating even as I type.

[RiderInBlack]

Good on ya Fish. It takes a bit of skill ta shoot wild goats. They are a danger to New Zealand's environment, and ya made an effort to use the meat instead of just wasting it. That's real hunting.

[Swoop]

Mmmm. Curry.

Actually, if one isn't up to the intricacies of curry cooking, a nice tender haunch of goat, rubbed down with olive oil and rosemary, with a few cloves of garlic chopped up and stuffed into slits, and roasted slow in the oven with root veges, is just magic. I'm salivating even as I type.
I have been informed that the female goat has better taste since the male urinates over itself to increase its "scent". Any truth in this?

I also love the quote "I'm a vegetarian, not because I love animals but because I HATE plants!":done:

[jrandom]

I have been informed that the female goat has better taste since the male urinates over itself to increase its "scent". Any truth in this?

Yup. Older billies smell and taste foul. I ate a young male a few months back that came out fine, though. I've heard that the trick is to cut off their nuts straight away. No idea if that's urban legend or not, but I do it religiously. Can't hurt. Also, it's fun to chase your mates around a paddock with goat testicles.

I try and shoot the smaller goats for the pot. Better chance of getting a nice tender girly. Of course, for population control it's good to get the males, but I'm not trying to make a living off DOC bounties and I don't have a farm of my own to clear, so I don't care. :p

The old males tend to be much smarter, too, they know how to take cover and they don't panic and freeze when they hear shots, so they tend to get dropped less often. It's quite something to see a billy goat dash for cover, stay quiet a few minutes, and then sprint from one area of bush to the next, zig-zagging across open ground.

Sheep may be dumb, but goaties ain't...

[Patrick]

Just a couple o things Fish...

"I've heard that the trick is to cut off their nuts straight away. Can't hurt."

Huh??? Shoot them first next time fella! Gotta hurt like hell otherwise!!! Makes my eyes water just thinking about it!!

"Of course, for population control it's good to get the males,"

I thought the males don't have babies?

"The old males tend to be much smarter, too, they know how to take cover and they don't panic and freeze when they hear shots, so they tend to get dropped less often. It's quite something to see a billy goat dash for cover, stay quiet a few minutes, and then sprint from one area of bush to the next, zig-zagging across open ground."

Now that is just plain funny... clever bastidges...

[jrandom]

JHuh??? Shoot them first next time fella! Gotta hurt like hell otherwise!!! Makes my eyes water just thinking about it!!

Oh yeah. Bastidge goaties deserve everything they get. "Y'all hold them legs apart, Billy-Sue, and ah'll hack ahf his danglies, yee haw!"

"Maaaaaaaa! Baaaaaaaa!"


I thought the males don't have babies?

Woops. Of course. You make a good point. I've been taking a totally ineffectual approach to population control. Guess I'd better start clear-felling cabbage patches.

[Ixion]

,,

The old males tend to be much smarter, too, they know how to take cover and they don't panic and freeze when they hear shots, so they tend to get dropped less often. It's quite something to see a billy goat dash for cover, stay quiet a few minutes, and then sprint from one area of bush to the next, zig-zagging across open ground.

Sheep may be dumb, but goaties ain't...

I don't like the sound of that. Give them a few more years, and they'll start tossing grenades back at y' while their mates lay down covering fire.

[Sniper]

I don't like the sound of that. Give them a few more years, and they'll start tossing grenades back at y' while their mates lay down covering fire.

Thats what ya spotters for :devil2: