So so sad :'(

[StoneChucker]

I happened to come across the story of a young woman (almost 18) who was murdered in Vancouver, while working in a MacDonalds, by some crazy schitzo serial sex offender. Millions of people are murdered yes, but when it's someone on a public website, with lots of friends, the story grew bigger than anyone could ever imagine.

You'd get a really good idea of who she was, what she was like and the really, really touching story that has unfolded on the internet over the past 4 months or so. I'm serious though, take a box of tissues.

There are heaps of links, but where I read the most was on YouTube and MySpace, and the links off there (to news videos, thousands of comments by friends and strangers and heaps of tribute sites and videos)...

http://www.annasvidersky.net/ (A central place to MySpace links, news videos and links, biography, etc...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Svidersky (A "good" summary of the story, from a link off the first page/link, just above this)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkB9njfC2yY (One of the beautiful tribute videos)

http://www.myspace.com/sceneslut (The MySpace account she had before her murder - link is so popular it often doesn't work)

One of the thousands of points raised in the labyrinth of links & comments is that she was just a regular girl, who was murdered like millions of people are. That's exactly the point. News reports murders everyday, but because we are so separated from them, we have become immune! Whilst obvious, every murdered person has their own life, and friends/family, we just don't usually think about it.

Back to our own lives - The scariest, most depressing thing I can think of, is that it's probable that when we (or me from my point of view) die, noone apart from our family and close friends, will ever know we existed, or probably even care. Gone from this world without a trace.:weep:

[candor]

I think its nice the victim is getting the attention and lauded for her good deeds instead of everyone dissecting the killers make-up. Usually the victims are forgotten real fast. Pretty awful how kids made virtual reality games re her murder tho - whats wrong with ppl?.

Another site I know is extremely immediate and makes u think (or cry or vomit re how low people can go).

http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/stoptheviolence/

"Stop the violence" was a website put up to help dom violence vics by Rachael Miller, a woman that had escaped it. She was living in hiding and helping others. Several years after she got away she'd just remarried - was pregnant. Ex tracked her down and killed her. His police confession re how (avail by link on the site - scroll down page) is brutal, heartrending and graphic of what an animal he was.

Very sad to read such a great site done by someone fabulous to help people- to sense who she was, how well she was doing (very activist in helping victims - almost angelic) and then to find out the tragic ending. Most I've told about the site are affected for quite a few days.

[Mr. Peanut]

You know what? I'm not looking, my world is going to be ^ that much happier than yours :yes:

[sunhuntin]

One of the thousands of points raised in the labyrinth of links & comments is that she was just a regular girl, who was murdered like millions of people are. That's exactly the point. News reports murders everyday, but because we are so separated from them, we have become immune! Whilst obvious, every murdered person has their own life, and friends/family, we just don't usually think about it.


yep. when tania was killed, i was grateful for being given the chance to get to know who she really was. i knew her at school and avoided her cos she hung out with the group who gave me shit. and now, theres only likely a handful who think of her daily, knowing who she really was. i remember, lol, she stretched her earlobes...so much she could fit a .22 bullet in it, lmfao.
im always grateful for being given the chance to get to know her...she was a genuine friend, and one of the few true people left in this world.

like the song says...only the good die young.

[jrandom]

Dave, you're being maudlin. Stop it.

What does this girl mean to you? Why should she mean more than the thousands, nay, millions, who die in even worse ways after living lives filled with misery?

Does the fact that you read about it on the internet make it somehow important?

The endless reams of badly-spelled online wailing on this subject just constitute more of the usual pap spewed forth by the internet's overpopulation of foolish bleeding-heart vegetarians with short attention spans.

In my humble opinion.

[candor]

Of course its maudlin Fish, but its part of reality. Its real whether we know victims like these or not. Have a heart - did you not feel affected re the croc mans death yesterday even tho he was just a bit of cellulose to us?

OK some people have got a bit overinvolved and carried away about that chics death. Course she was no more important than any of the starving kids.
But she was someones baby and what happened is terrible and stinks BAD.

I think its good to reflect at least once on tragedies like these - nothing wrong with it. If you have never had such a tragedy a few minutes dwelling on how it must be is bound to make u a better person - one better prepared when you or people you know inevitably face tragedy in future.

Lif cant always be funny.

[jrandom]

Of course its maudlin Fish...

Well, there you go. 'Maudlin' is a pejorative term, remember. Pet by your own hoistard.

Why is it good to reflect on tragedies that one didn't cause and couldn't have prevented?

Morbidly dwelling on the myriad ways that life can turn to crap never did nobody no good. Why cry when you can laugh?

That, however, is not my point. My point is that the furore over this particular death reeks of schmaltzy Murkn sentimentality. It's annoying and pointless.

[Waylander]

That, however, is not my point. My point is that the furore over this particular death reeks of schmaltzy Murkn sentimentality. It's annoying and pointless.
Peaple online talking to someone they have bever met being upset when that person diesor badly injured? Hardly a 'Murkn' thing mate.

Just because you never meet does not mean you cannot grow fond of someone.

I'll use Stonchucker here as an example if he doesn't mind. (if you do just tell me and I'll delete it, would also like anyone that quotes me not to quote the following just in case)

I have never met him as far as I know, only talked to him a few times bust still consider him a mate. When he has is accident I felt concern for him and his family too, just as many others on these forums did and do. Here was someone I had intereaction with suddenly taken out of doing something he enjoys by shitty circumstance.
He's a brother biker as you are and for that I do care about him and many others on the site.

That's not murkn mate, that's human.

[Shadows]

If I really wanted to get bummed out tonight I would have logged into internet banking or something.

[jrandom]

That's not murkn...

I'm referring to the prevalent (and justified) stereotype of unsubtle, self-obsessed, bleeding-heart American soccer-mom-ism.

If Miss Svidersky had lived and died in, I dunno, Severodvinsk, which sounds much more appropriate for that surname, and been a tubby little Slavic type who didn't speak English, do you think her demise would have attracted so much interest?

Silly Murkns.

[Lou Girardin]

I'm referring to the prevalent (and justified) stereotype of unsubtle, self-obsessed, bleeding-heart American soccer-mom-ism.

If Miss Svidersky had lived in died in, I dunno, Severodvinsk, which sounds much more appropriate for that surname, and been a tubby little Slavic type who didn't speak English, do you think her demise would have attracted so much interest?

Silly Murkns.

On a similar subject, what is it with the continual public weeping. Aggassi being the latest. OK, men have been told to 'get in touch with their emotions', but it's about time we go back to being strong, silent types.
And stop eating chicken.

[bungbung]

I'm referring to the prevalent (and justified) stereotype of unsubtle, self-obsessed, bleeding-heart American soccer-mom-ism.

If Miss Svidersky had lived in died in, I dunno, Severodvinsk, which sounds much more appropriate for that surname, and been a tubby little Slavic type who didn't speak English, do you think her demise would have attracted so much interest?

Silly Murkns.

I can't give you anymore rep, so http://www.b3ta.com and http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/cows.htm for your efforts.

[Ixion]

I'm referring to the prevalent (and justified) stereotype of unsubtle, self-obsessed, bleeding-heart American soccer-mom-ism.

If Miss Svidersky had lived in died in, I dunno, Severodvinsk, which sounds much more appropriate for that surname, and been a tubby little Slavic type who didn't speak English, do you think her demise would have attracted so much interest?

Silly Murkns.

Not just cousin Jonathan. Regardez, Princess Diana.

[KATWYN]

I happened to come across the story of a young woman (almost 18) who was murdered in Vancouver, while working in a MacDonalds,.:weep:

Aw Stonechucker, I looked at it briefly before I started work. The first page
intro is a tear jerker. "Tell Christina everything will be alright"

Note that the Psyco pierced her in the place that made her a beautiful human being....her heart.

I wonder (whoever the source of life is)..has got planned for the people that deliberately have taken lives in such a vicious calculated way - I wouldn't want to be them at their own time of death. Psych problems or not...we are
still responsible for the things we do I reakon - IMO, psych problems are just a big copout for such things as calculated murder

[SARGE]

On a similar subject, what is it with the continual public weeping. Aggassi being the latest. OK, men have been told to 'get in touch with their emotions', but it's about time we go back to being strong, silent types.

Agassi gives me the shits anyway.. then when i saw him blubbering like a broken hearted schoolgirl, i really lost the last remaining shred of respect for him.. he played a game for a living.. its not like any of those fucktards ever contributed to the human condition in any positive way

Mohammed Ali never cried when he retired..neither did Mike Jordan..



And stop eating chicken.


unless you bite the head off it while its still alive

[Coyote]

Back to our own lives - The scariest, most depressing thing I can think of, is that it's probable that when we (or me from my point of view) die, noone apart from our family and close friends, will ever know we existed, or probably even care. Gone from this world without a trace.:weep:
Yep

I had dreams and aspirations of being in the MotoGP, mainly cause I like the idea of being at the top level and going as fast as you can on a bike but also cause of the glory and fame (cause I've always been ignored and to be noticed would be nice). But then I realised, I'm not rich enough to get to that level, I started riding to late and people my age are already living my dream, and how many riders names do you know off the top of your head. Rossi, Pedrosa, etc. The thing is most people are nothing in the great scheme of things. Out of 6 billion people in this world very few are known by the rest of the world, and they're only known by everyone cause they've had advantages like money since birth, or in rossi's case his Dad was a top rider. In little than 2 years I've surpassed my Dads skill level. The best you can do is give up on the big dreams of glory and just be the best person you can be to your close family and friends. You'll die largely unknown but at least your close family will remember how good a person you were for a few generations

[VasalineWarrior]

Back to our own lives - The scariest, most depressing thing I can think of, is that it's probable that when we (or me from my point of view) die, noone apart from our family and close friends, will ever know we existed, or probably even care. Gone from this world without a trace.:weep:

Cheer up Dave. When the time comes, if not too many people other than my friends and family care if im gone, then its their loss for not knowing me! Even for famous people who have done some recognised stuff, no one remembers them in 10 years time except for the select few they had a special influence in their lives, and it'll be the same for you and me. Only truly infamous people like stalin, hitler and cortez get remebered by the masses and im not really sure id like my name added to that list. So, lets just accumulate as many speeding tickets as we can and be content with some IT dude in the police looking at our records in 100 years time and smiling!

[Lou Girardin]

Note that the Psyco pierced her in the place that made her a beautiful human being....her heart.



The heart is a muscular pump, you can live with a mechanical one. What makes people beautiful or not is their minds.

[KATWYN]

The heart is a muscular pump, you can live with a mechanical one. What makes people beautiful or not is their minds.

Hmmm thats going to make interesting looking valentines day cards :love: .

The heart is both abstract (connection with the mind) and physical.

[placidfemme]

wow thats some pretty sad stuff...