Seem legit to you? (Trademe Auction)

[Coyote]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports-tourers/auction-68753928.htm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=68752055

I noticed these 2 bikes on Sunday. Seems to good to be true. The seller makes no references to a buisness they're running, it's like they're importing these bikes from their backyard. And they've not said they've only just started to import bikes cause looking through their history the only bike they've sold was their old learner bike. Plus the dodgiest thing of all: "I can't reveal my suppliers. I import from around the world"

I'd like to stay open minded, if this person is legit my dream bike will be more believable. What do you think?

[skelstar]

Pretty sure that CBR600RR colouring is from the USA market (coloring). If that helps.

[R6_kid]

The guy has said in both auctions that before you make any firm offers you should go and see the bike first. My guess is he's getting them from either ebay or yahoo auctions japan. It's easy for anyone to do, the bitch part is trying to get cheap and dependable shipping.

My only gripe would be that he should have the bike in the country before selling it to save any hassle.

[Jimmy B]

Does sound very competative if its the real deal. I work with a lot of importers and its not unsual for them to be tight around revealing who their suppliers are. They typically want to protect their business by preventing their customers from going direct to the source, especailly where there are no exclusivity agreements in place. I notice the vendor does allow pick ups so wondering if a prepurchase inspection would be possible, once the Bikes arrived.

[R6_kid]

it says the R6 is in the country now. If you are keen then i'd have a prepurchase inspection arranged, or get someone you trust in Auckland to go take a look.

[McJim]

Well if it's all legit and above board I reckon this dude is getting great publicity. And if he can grow his business it will bring down the price of 2nd hand bikes too!

[judecatmad]

Seems like a fantastic deal to me! We're about ready to upgrade so the lower the cost to us, the better :D

[McJim]

Seems like a fantastic deal to me! We're about ready to upgrade so the lower the cost to us, the better :D

Remember the downside is you're old bike will lose value too....unless he avoids 250's altogether.

[nudemetalz]

He doesn't know that much about bikes I notice...

"Hi I'm after a red 2004+ R1 If u can get back to me with a price and description on bike that would be good "
reply - "Hi What CC rating? I will email you direct."


hmmm,....

[Swoop]

Dodgy characters abound on betrademe.
Was looking at a bike. Deal was it was in NZ, then went back to Greece, and would be re-imported once I sent the money to the owner who was... somewhere...
Let the buyer beware.

[The Pastor]

Why does he only like to import 05 or 06 models?

Semi dodgy. I'd somehow check out if its all legit etc before giving money.

Maybe there stolen? Late models so he can say that they havent been rego'd in another country? (i.e no way to prove they have been stolen)?

But still, looks like some nice deals!

[placidfemme]

eh I was checking out the R6 yesterday... would be nice if this isn't another rip off

[Hellraiser]

Pretty sure that CBR600RR colouring is from the USA market (coloring). If that helps.

So is it the left hand drive version?

is the a conversion kit for them?

[fozz rock]

take a look at his "feedback" sold 2 250cc bike so far, one was a buy and on sell job

[sAsLEX]

So is it the left hand drive version?

is the a conversion kit for them?

He mentions they will be WOFed so therefor the lights dipping in the wrong direction would have to be rectified

[Indiana_Jones]

lol Hookie goods!

-Indy

[Cookie]

Q. where dose this bike import from??
A. Hi Sorry, I can't reveal my suppliers. I import from around the world.

Hmmm.

Personally, I would prefer to import my own rather than deal with a guy who won't say what country he got the bike from.

Edit: I'd rather buy from someone who knows how many cc's an R1 has too!

[inlinefour]

Looks to good to be true and when thats the case, it also tends to turn out that way. I'm sure there will be nil warrenty either, makes me wonder whats wrong with them as they are being sold far too cheaply. I'll stick to the dealers eh. I'm certian it would be less of a nightmare in the long run...

[upshift]

That guy is just too evasive on the questions. It is possible that these are bikes that have been stolen in overseas countrys, and our man here doesn't even know it.

[Coyote]

He doesn't know that much about bikes I notice...
Also the CBR600 is 500cc


Maybe there stolen? Late models so he can say that they havent been rego'd in another country? (i.e no way to prove they have been stolen)?
That was one of my first thoughts, and they're selling them overseas to avoid the bike being noticed locally

Still hope this guy is honest. I want an SP1!

[mynameis]

He is indeed getting a lot of publicity, he put up the auction on Thursday night last week and I called him the next day Friday.

He sounded a bit dogey from my gut feeling and just didn't sound all to right but then again hey I could be proven wrong. I said " So do you personally ride a bike and what bike do you ride'?

He stuttered and mumbled away and said "Aah it's a cruiser, what's it called, um ahh" and I was just silent and didn't help him out and was just listening away.

He then took all his time and named some bike a 500 cc cruiser. We had a chat and he gave me his e mail. I asked him to checkout out ZX 6 R and GSXR 600 2004 - 2006 model.

He hasn't replied yet.

[skelstar]

You could get hold of reg/chassis numbers and maybe do some online DMV (US) checks. If ya can do that online in NZ, then you can do it o/seas maybe.

[SuperDave]

Personally, I'd be weary to get involved in a deal that sounds too good to be true.

[mynameis]

Same here SuperDave, it's just too much hassle in the long run. Might as well pay normal price and get a good bike aye.

He just sounded a little too dogey (and definitely not confident at all) to me and it's a bit obvious he doesn't know much about bikes. But I guess time will tell.

[Coyote]

Same here SuperDave, it's just too much hassle in the long run. Might as well pay normal price and get a good bike aye.

He just sounded a little too dogey (and definitely not confident at all) to me and it's a bit obvious he doesn't know much about bikes. But I guess time will tell.
Some of us can't afford the normal price :p

What's also dodgy is this was a guy on the phone, the trademe profile says the seller's name is 'Sarah'

[crashe]

If you guys want imported bikes... Go to Motohaus and chat to Kerry.

He has quite a few imported bikes sitting there... and at a reasonable price.
All Vinned, WOF and Rego'ed.

Plus you get to see them and take them for a spin as well.

He has cruiser's, sports and scooters.

[crashe]

What's also dodgy is this was a guy on the phone, the trademe profile says the seller's name is 'Sarah'

Sarah and James.

[inlinefour]

There have been scams overseas where people never got the bike that they paid for. If anyone is really keen on buying a bike off this dude just make sure you recieve the goods prior to handing over your hard earnt $$$.

[Smokin]

If he said the bikes have arrived, just go and have a look at them.
If he's genuine I'm sure he would'nt mind inspection and a quick recording of serial numbers.

[onearmedbandit]

He would have to have falsified de-rego papers for them, and sales documents from whoever he 'bought' them from. My only concern is that they are stolen, I have no doubt that whoever wins the auction or buys directly will receive their goods. I wouldn't however give him a deposit on an ordered bike, his risk then not yours. He can sell it on trademe otherwise.

[jeremysprite]

I wouldn't trust him. He's owned at least 3 Honda's.

Why don't we go over there tonight, check out his offices, do a little 'snooping', find out what he knows? I can imagine his emails to his 'superiors' in the other countries:

Sarah and James: Me again. These NZer's are real suckers. I mean, a brand new CBR600RR for $8k???

PS What is the CC rating on a 2006 Yamaha YZF-R1000?

Superior: Good. Next we'll sell that Enzo for $20,000, or swap for a '00 Corolla.

PS Try Googling it?

Maybe it's another attempted scam by Winston Peters to write off corporate tax? Buy new motorcycles in the US, freight to another country, report stolen/lost in transit, claim back GST for the freight, and also sell the bikes duty-free for a small profit?
Get Ian Wishart to investigate.

Anyhow, enough stipulating, I should be studying.

[Brett]

I spoke to him today regarding the R6, he seemed ok, a little bit short on the knowledge side of things however! I asked whether i could take the R6 out for a ride when it gets here to check that it is ok, and he seemed very accomodating, but i suppose the real test will be in the product...
He also didn't understand about the headlight set up issue in different countries, but he did talk convincingly about how he procured the bikes...he told me that he gets Aprilia's from Italy, and looks internationally for bikes to inport.
I will post some feedback o the R6 once i have been informed that he has it, and has let me take it for a ride.

[Coyote]

Sarah and James.
Well that's new cause it was just Sarah when I first looked

The plot thickens

[McJim]

Could be legit after all - bikes are cheaper in many other countries due to the whole supply and demand thingumy. We are a tiny set of islands on the back side of nowhere with a really really small population and therefore people don't really value us as a market. They won't drop their dacks to get a piece of NZ trade action in other words.

This is why we have to pay so bloody much for mundane cars like Alpha Romeo, Fiat, Audi, Volkswagen and cheeky sales buggers call them prestige automobiles :rofl: they are mid market Euro cars nothing more.

So this guy's bottom line could just be that he has a good value freight service.

Looking forward to R6 Kids' feed back.....

[mynameis]

Some of us can't afford the normal price :p

What's also dodgy is this was a guy on the phone, the trademe profile says the seller's name is 'Sarah'


Gzzz nor can I afford normal prices but I dream a lot, have been going on TradeMe everyday for the last 9 months, but you never know oneday you'll strike luck and get a good deal.

If not work your ass off for your toys and save up like I am :$ Lol.

As for him, when I talked to him he said "0oh it's not mine it's my partners account just selling it under her name yeah".

[Coyote]

Gzzz nor can I afford normal prices but I dream a lot, have been going on TradeMe everyday for the last 9 months, but you never know oneday you'll strike luck and get a good deal.

If not work your ass off for your toys and save up like I am :$ Lol.

As for him, when I talked to him he said "0oh it's not mine it's my partners account just selling it under her name yeah".
My Dad kept his eye out and eventually got the Montesa. $5000, probably worth about 8000. Blimmin good deal

And I work mimimum wage at a supermarket. A few bucks saved is a few more hours I don't have to work

And that is dodgy...

[Macktheknife]

It looks a bit dodgy but it could just be that he has no real idea of bikes. I would definitely want to see them in person before putting any money on though.

[mynameis]

Yeah the bugger has withdrawn an auction he was running for the CBR 600 pooooo's !!

[Smokin]

Yeah the bugger has withdrawn an auction he was running for the CBR 600 pooooo's !!

Looks to me that TradeMe removed it for him. Maybe he was dodgy :nono:

[Shaun]

Did you read what Harry54 said to him

[Wired1]

Both auctions have been pulled by Turdeme admin, they have to be pretty extreme in dodginess to be pulled so thaty answers all the questions I reckon.

[Cookie]

Did you read what Harry54 said to him

No - I've been watching this with interest. Can it be repeated here?

[Shaun]

No - I've been watching this with interest. Can it be repeated here?


After having asked him to call, and he had not, the next comment was

Hey, motorcyclists here stick together, shaft one and you are shafting them all

[Coyote]

Damn. That's rather dissapointing. No SP1 for me then

At least no-one got stung I hope

[mikey]

its becoming a common occurance for a legit account, ie sarah's in this case, to have been hacked/password scammed and then bikes pop up for sale very cheap on the account, the "bike" normally end ups being located in lebanon or chinisea type place, and if your dumb enough to do a non trace able money transfer, they will take your money. nigerian scams but with bikes.

[Smokin]

Has his/hers account been closed or did Admin just remove the auctions? I cant remember their user name to check.

[onearmedbandit]

Thing is mikey he was prepared to let people view the bikes before even putting 10 cents down, the only dispute was whether they were stolen or not.

[mikey]

did anyone view the bikes? i would put a slab on it they didnt have rego/vin plates. if they did they were stolen.