I must be getting old

[Lou Girardin]

After having a bike with a standard can on it, I'm thinking of changing my Micron race can to a road legal version. They have a removable baffle that lifts the noise level but not as loud as the race models.
I'm really getting sick of the popping and banging and generally anti-social noise.
Do I need testosterone replacement therapy?

[Hitcher]

More likely you're suffering from a cute earring.

[Swoop]

Lou, that is a different approach from a few on here! I'm sure that some nice person will take your old can off your hands...

[James Deuce]

The popping and banging may have something to do with 30 missing HP. Check the exhaust junctions are sealing. It will pop and bang if air is let in on the overrun.

[SpankMe]

The SV/yoshi did a lot of popping and sometimes really load banging and it was starting to get on my nerves. There's a difference between a nice rumble and inconsistent irritating noise.

[Lou Girardin]

The popping and banging may have something to do with 30 missing HP. Check the exhaust junctions are sealing. It will pop and bang if air is let in on the overrun.



No, it's normal with race cans. The system is fine.

[roogazza]

After having a bike with a standard can on it, I'm thinking of changing my Micron race can to a road legal version. They have a removable baffle that lifts the noise level but not as loud as the race models.
I'm really getting sick of the popping and banging and generally anti-social noise.
Do I need testosterone replacement therapy?

Take two panadeine and have a lie down !!!!! G.

[terbang]

I'm with yer there Lou. First thing I was to do when getting the new Bus was to put some pipes on it as I allways have done in the past. Havn't got around to it, for various reasons and am now enjoying a quiet bike. Still has a nice induction rumble down there that I like and I guess I don't really need any more HP.

[The_Dover]

that's what happens when you put new batteries in your hearing aid Lou.

wait til they are half drained again and you'll be fine.

[Lou Girardin]

I've talked to one of our techs about it and there's no significant difference in power output between race and street cans on a standard exhaust system.
For that matter, there was only 1hp difference between having the baffle in or removed.
It sounds like I'm talking myself into it.

[The_Dover]

It sounds like I'm talking myself into it.

SPEAK UP LOU.

YOU CAN'T HEAR YOURSELF OVER THE DIN OF THAT INFERNAL MOTOMACYCLE.

old fullas, huh?

[eliot-ness]

After having a bike with a standard can on it, I'm thinking of changing my Micron race can to a road legal version. They have a removable baffle that lifts the noise level but not as loud as the race models.
I'm really getting sick of the popping and banging and generally anti-social noise.
Do I need testosterone replacement therapy?

Just take off the can and remove the thirty dead horses. It'll be fine again.

[Lou Girardin]

that's what happens when you put new batteries in your hearing aid Lou.

wait til they are half drained again and you'll be fine.

Yeah, it's shame selective hearing only works on women.

[Flyingpony]

I'm really getting sick of the popping and banging and generally anti-social noise.
Do I need testosterone replacement therapy?
First you lose 30hp and now your complaining it's making to much noise too!

You might want to cut back on those bake beans :sick: there Lou, they're probably the cause of your general anti-social noise!

But tell you what Lou, want to swap Suzuki's with no cash difference?
Mine hasn't lost any power, hasn't been dropped etc, and definitely doesn't make any popping, banging or farting noises. You might get lucky and even find your missing 30hp which so far has eluded all reasonable attempts of ours to find it hiding within my FXR engine.

[MacD]

Does the PAIR system contribute to popping on overrun on Bandits? It seems to me that injecting air into the exhaust should have a similar effect to a gasket leak?

Anyhow, I tend to agree about the noise level, the SuperTrapp on my SRX is really too noisy for commuter use in general and too loud for my right ear for comfort as I don't wear earplugs when commuting at urban speeds.

[Big Dave]

What do you mean 'getting' old?

[Lou Girardin]

Does the PAIR system contribute to popping on overrun on Bandits? It seems to me that injecting air into the exhaust should have a similar effect to a gasket leak?


That's been removed and blanked off.

[Pwalo]

Is this another variation on the old noisy pipes argument? (If you want to show off go and buy a Harley).

Personally I'm not convinced that aftermarket performance pipes offer any significant gains over the standard jobbies, other than a bit of weight loss. Seems to be an expensive way to add a bit of noise. Tweaking the EFI, EMU, carburation, might be a better bet.

I like to have as quiet a bike as possible (is that an oxymoron with an aircooled 2 valve four stroke?). The less undesirable attention I create the better. I'm pretty sure the neighbours wouldn't be best pleased if I were to run a noisy pipe.

[roogazza]

Lou, I thought pair systems were for American market ? that might be your problem as i asked before, a restricted Bandit ?

In 1997 when the Bandits arrived, pipe and jetting was standard practice to unleash 15 BHP or more. Bandit sites in the States are full of talk regarding popping and cackling on the overrun, its quite normal.

Keep up with the pills and ointment you'll pass through this phase Gaz. :yes: :yes:

[Lou Girardin]

Lou, I thought pair systems were for American market ? that might be your problem as i asked before, a restricted Bandit ?



I don't know if it's called PAIR, but it's the air injection system that all Bandits have, my K1 had it too.
They've checked and it's an Aust/NZ market model ie not restricted.

[terbang]

Popping and banging on overun is usually excess charge in the pipe being ignited during exhaust strokes. With the timing being picked up from the crank end on most bikes they also spark on the exhaust cycle. My old bandit did it with a yoshi pipe and got worse as I richened the mixture. Mine was a 98 model and they advertised around 108 HP standard. Obviously they were well restricted by the origional can and just fitting the yoshi can gave me (ping) 12 HP more.

[Bend-it]

I'm with yer there Lou... and am now enjoying a quiet bike. Still has a nice induction rumble down there that I like and I guess I don't really need any more HP.

Burung kakak tua
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Gigi nya tingal dua

[roogazza]

41048

I don't know if it's called PAIR, but it's the air injection system that all Bandits have, my K1 had it too.
They've checked and it's an Aust/NZ market model ie not restricted.

Pity you weren't in Wgton , this would change your mind ? Gaz. :gob:

[Lou Girardin]

41048


Pity you weren't in Wgton , this would change your mind ? Gaz. :gob:

That looks serious. I've heard of a street legal Bandit in the UK with 165hp at the wheel.
Dynoed yours?

[dawnrazor]

I've been looking at various mufflers recently and I thought it was interesting that on the euopean websites, there was a clear distinction between the road cans and and race cans - but elsewhere (US etc) all you can get is race cans.

The EU really are noise nazis, be thankful you can use your race can on the road here without being stopped every 100 metres by the fuzz.

Just buy the schubert Lou, you won't hear a thing again!!!!!

[Posh Tourer :P]

Surely a good re-mapping to make it run a bit leaner would stop all the popping and banging??? It is only unburnt fuel exploding in the hot exhaust isnt it??

[moko]

I like to have as quiet a bike as possible (is that an oxymoron with an aircooled 2 valve four stroke?). The less undesirable attention I create the better. I'm pretty sure the neighbours wouldn't be best pleased if I were to run a noisy pipe.

I go with that,noisy pipes do just that,make a noise and o.k. possibly give you a bit more power that you`re un-likely to notice on the road anyway without other major mods and a total disregard for speed limits.I speed regularly and get away with it,a bit of discretion and not the equivelant of my bike screaming "BLOODY HELL,LOOK HOW FAST I`M GOING" helps me get away with it.When I was a lot younger ans saw things differently I ran a totally un-silenced XS650,sounded like Armageddon and turned heads everyhwere it went,also got on my nerves after 15 minutes and got painful after 30.
People feel the need for loud pipes for a reason,an old pair of socks stuffed down the front of the boxers is a far cheaper alternative.

[Lou Girardin]

Surely a good re-mapping to make it run a bit leaner would stop all the popping and banging??? It is only unburnt fuel exploding in the hot exhaust isnt it??

Other way around, lean idle mixtures make it pop. Richening the pilot screws reduces it.

[roogazza]

That looks serious. I've heard of a street legal Bandit in the UK with 165hp at the wheel.
Dynoed yours?

I haven't dynoed myself but copied what several yanks and poms have done. They all had readings of 140 to 150. By the feel of it ( my arse dyno ) I reckon a good 140 plus ? Still on the 1157 bore. The biggest difference was the 27 kgs I removed from the chassis.
( I still have the shock and springs I got off Pixxie )........ Gaz.

[Lou Girardin]

I haven't dynoed myself but copied what several yanks and poms have done. They all had readings of 140 to 150. By the feel of it ( my arse dyno ) I reckon a good 140 plus ? Still on the 1157 bore. The biggest difference was the 27 kgs I removed from the chassis.
( I still have the shock and springs I got off Pixxie )........ Gaz.

When you get a chance, can you PM me with what you've done.

[Cajun]

how about let us all know would be interesting to know