Kiwi Cops - The Biff verdict

[Biff]

Being a half decent kinda chap I'm not the sorta guy that generaly ends up on the wrong side of the law. Apart from the occassional 'stop n check' or 'slowdownyabastard' lecture.

Having been here (KB & NZ) for a couple o' years now (from somewhere else) I like to think that I've managed to aquire enough cop stops to form my own verdict about Kiwi cops.

Back in the Ewwww.K (Taffland) you don't see anywhere near as many cops on the open roads as you do here. And mufty (traffic) cops are even rarer. So it was a bit of a shock when I moved here and earned two x $200+ speeding tickets during my first month or so on the roads. It was an aclimatisation period I guess. Getting used to the lower speed limits (100k on the highway felt soooooo slow), the lazy, dangerous and half arsed way the roads are re-sealed - leaving shit loads of loose grave on the roads , especially on freakin corners (*rant*) etc.

Although the second time I was ticketed was because of one anal cuntree cop (I cant be arsed to go into it again).

Anhyhoo - as it stands today:

1st stop - 134Kmph (100 limit) - Ticket. Nice cop.
2nd stop - 89Kmph (in a 60 limit yards from entering a 100) - Ticket. Wanker of a cop.
3rd stop - 112Kmph (in an 80) - Let off. Nice cop
4th stop - 130+Kmph (100 limit) - Let off !!!! Two nice cops. They liked my bike. Mild lecture.
4th (attempted) stop - Signifcantly over the limit. I wasn't sure whether (s)he was after me, so I kept going. At speed.
5th stop (Thurs this week) -No Wof. oops. Genuine oversight. Let off. But she'd check up on me in a week to ensure I'd manage to WOF the mighty Biffbird.

So the majority of the time - providing you're pleasant enough (and decide to stop) the odds are that you'll get a break.


My verdict on Kiwi cops - On the whole a decent bunch.

Thumbs up from here.

Your turn Lou.

[Motu]

In these situations someone is always an arsehole - if it's not the Cop...it must be you.

[Big Dave]

Yeah - I've been fairly treated. 50-50 caution to booking ratio. Some were petty, but the plod not unpleasant.

Some, as reported here, I could do nought but hold my hand out.

Anyway - lately I've ended up interviewing them. 'OK yeah, sure, sorry, now what do YOU think about these bus lanes and...etc etc.'

[texmo]

In these situations someone is always an arsehole - if it's not the Cop...it must be you.

LOL well put.

[Blackbird]

Well said Rhod - my view too. My detector has (touch wood) helped me avoid tickets for a few years but in all my dealings with the HWP, the cops have been fine and I've got away with far more than I really deserved to without penalty. In 31 years in NZ, I've only met one genuinely unpleasant cop and that was about 5 years ago on SH1 a few k's north of Bulls. He did me for towing a trailer with the car at 105km/hr. Whilst this was admittedly breaking the law, it was the way he went on at me when he pulled me over, you'd have thought that I was public enemy No 1. That experience hasn't in any way diminished my respect for the cops though, they have a s**t job to do.

[Lou Girardin]

My verdict on Kiwi cops - On the whole a decent bunch.

Thumbs up from here.

Your turn Lou.

I couldn't possibly comment.
Except to say, my last business contact with a cop was with a site member. I wasn't impressed with being accused of speeding when I damn well knew I wasn't.
I also think I was breath tested by bussaman one morning. He was cool, more interested in talking bikes than anything.
I get the impression Scumdog and Spud would be firm but fair.
But as we've all heard there are quite a few wankers out there. As there always will be.
My real complaint is with their weak-kneed, arse-kissing, lick-spittle bosses.

[pixc]

For the most part I respect the police force. Its a fairly thankless job really. From what I heard the pay isnt that great considering the crap they have to put up with. I think they do a fantastic job. If I speed and I get caught..I deserve a ticket. I know the rules...they are there for a reason even if I dont quite understand the odd one or two. I admit ..the odd policeman might be a bit 'scratchie' but it doesnt mean they are all like that. I had a minor disagreement with a mechanic today..that doesnt mean all mechanics are assholes? I was having a bad day...apparently so was he.

[gamgee]

I've only been caught speeding once, but mine goes roughly...
*Pulled up in gore on my learners with passengers in the cage, cop got confused, and let me off, I think he thought I had my full licence or something
*pulled up after accelerating hard out of a corner, but not exceeding the speed limit, cop pulled me over for a 'licence check'...
* pulled up for following some old lady in her toyota echo a bit closely, and doing a bit of weaving side to side cause I was bored, got off that all fine, the funny thing was about 5 mins later i'd got stuck behind a vw of some description also doing a fairly low speed around 40km/h if he'd seen me pass her I would have deserved a ticket :yes:
* Then the one where I actually got caught speeding, was on a back road blatting through some twisties, then the flashing lights come roaring up behind me, first thing he says was something like "how fast do you think you were going back there?" then "well i'm going to have to give you a ticket because that speed was a bit silly for such a windy road" but but, you were going faster than me around the same windy road, is it somehow safe for you to do it?? and i wouldn't have been going fast if it hadn't been a windy road, all in all i'm indifferent about that one, I mean his lecture about going fast through windy roads was a bit hollow, but he seemed alright albeit a bit dense

[yungatart]

Cops are human and like all of us there are some good and some not so good. I know of some arsehole kbers too - it doesn't mean every one on Kb is one, though.I wouldn't want there job for all the money in the consolidated fund! I've been done once for speeding - if I'd been paying attention properly I would have seen in my mirrors and not done it.... my fault entirely!

[SuperDave]

Majority of my experiences with cops have been really good.

Pulled once on the FXR doing 78kph in a 50 zone - ticketed and demerits. Thinking about it the copper wasn't bad but I was being a real dick and was rude to him from the start.

Second run in was with a cop on the harbour bridge - bike broke down but managed to force it uphill over the square kerb onto the empty flush median type things separating the middle lanes with the clip ons. HP came and was very nice about it, choice guy who escorted me over the bridge once I finally got the bike to start up again. He blocked off a whole lane to allow me to pull out safely.

Another run in was with a mufti cop in Oteha Valley road. Had just been working on the ZXR and decided to take it out for a bit of a blat near my house, got a bit too happy with the throttle which saw me revving the nuts off the thing and splitting through traffic at about 140kph for a brief period. Pulled into the Mobil station to get some petrol and noticed the disco lights on the dash of the holden behind me. Mufti car with 3 coppers inside gave me a huge lecture and checked WOF and rego - I acted really submissive and apologetic and told them I didn't know what speed I had clocked. Worked out that they obviously hadn't got a lock on me. They let me off with a warning.

Pulled over once when I was still on my restriced in my parents car. Had done nothing wrong except pulled into an empty carpark in Wairau park to adjust my minidisc carkit. The cunt of a cop pulled me over and right from the start was a right asshole - intergating me as if I had stolen the car, flashing his fucken torch into my eyes to see if I was wearing contacts, and finally after going back to his car for 10 mins came back and told me to change my attitude as he handed me my licence back. I had done absolutely nothing wrong, was driving within my restrictions and not speeding yet this cop treated me like shit.

So more often than not I've had a pleasant dealing with cops, as a result I refrain from cop bashing as it's not really fair for me to be all anti-cops when the majority of my dealings with them have been good.

[Sniper]

They do their jobs like anyone else and anytime I have had a run in with the law I have been in the wrong and all the cops have been fucken legends.

[Skyryder]

Guess I must learn that Welsh accent Biff. I've never been let off a speeding ticket ever.

Some were buisness like about it. Got done..........in the wrong.......got the ticket, got over it etc. Others pontificate about how they don't want me to hurt myslef and have accident etc................like officer..............I DO?? The ones who realy piss me off are those that are all smiley and squeacky and then proceed to write out the ticket after zillions of yes offcer, no officer, absolutely officer, and just when you think you are about to be sent on your way out comes the 'pad.' With some it's all a fucking game. I suspect the real reason the police are losing public confidence is not the tickets but the road side manner.

[jtzzr]

Thankfully haven`t had any dealings with the law whilst on a bike(knock on wood) in the last 20 years, but have in a cage,and all of them have been relatively pleasant. So all in all Iguess the cops aren`t too bad in NZ. Looking gingerly at the screen cause I know Dover `s gonna be here soon.:dodge:

[far queue]

I'm quite happy to get a bollocking from a cop on the side of the road, because while he/she is giving me a bollocking, and I'm being all humble and apologetic, I'm thinking "cool, bring it on, that's right, let it all out, this means I'm not getting a ticket". It usually works out that way - the cop's charming and I get a ticket, or cop's an ogre and I get off - bring on the ogre. I've never had a ticket I didn't deserve, and I've had lots of warnings and let offs when I also deserved a ticket.

I've met lots of cops over the years, when they're on the job and when they're off the job. They're no different to the rest of us, some great guys that go out their way to be helpful, some just doing their job, and a few wankers. Some bikers and some not. I'm talking about the frontline troops here, not the policy makers - that's a whole different thing.

[Edbear]

This thread...!:gob: Is this KB?

[spudchucka]

Well said Rhod - my view too. My detector has (touch wood) helped me avoid tickets for a few years but in all my dealings with the HWP, the cops have been fine and I've got away with far more than I really deserved to without penalty. In 31 years in NZ, I've only met one genuinely unpleasant cop and that was about 5 years ago on SH1 a few k's north of Bulls. He did me for towing a trailer with the car at 105km/hr. Whilst this was admittedly breaking the law, it was the way he went on at me when he pulled me over, you'd have thought that I was public enemy No 1. That experience hasn't in any way diminished my respect for the cops though, they have a s**t job to do.

Short guy, gnome like beard?

[Blackbird]

Short guy, gnome like beard?

Nope, silver/white hair, maybe early 50's. Was driving a mufti Nissan 200SX turbo when he did me but I saw him some weeks later in a normal HWP car at the same spot pulling someone else.

[stunz]

This thread...!:gob: Is this KB?yes...I was thinking the same thing...I reckon one of me brats has changed the URL to my Kiwi biker shortcut...(mustve been payback for the plastic spider I put in the cornflakes this morning...now THAT was funny...)

[Edbear]

yes...I was thinking the same thing...I reckon one of me brats has changed the URL to my Kiwi biker shortcut...(mustve been payback for the plastic spider I put in the cornflakes this morning...now THAT was funny...)



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :niceone:

[McJim]

I never got stopped by the Police in the UK.
I've never been stopped by the Police in New Zealand.
In fact - closest I got to a cop in NZ was at the Boobs on Bikes Parade the other week.

I don't think they like me, my personalised number plate, my FTO or my VTR.

If rumours are true I may get to meet some tomorrow on the noobie ride (weather permitting) which will be nice - then I can post an opinion.

[Limb]

Havn't been pulled over by a cop for as long as i can remember.

When my son got his learners this year we were coming back from Thames after getting his licence and there was a police road block pulling cars over in Tairua. My boy wanted to get pulled over so we road back and forth pass them a few times. We still didn't get pulled over.

[Shadows]

but I saw him some weeks later in a normal HWP car at the same spot pulling someone else.

Damn. Some people will do anything to get off a ticket!

[KLOWN]

shit, I don't have enough time to write about all the tickets ive had (about 50) so I have a real good idea what cops can be like and i've found out........... about 2/3rds are all good. Some can be real assholes and I have had one cop assult me for standing ountside pizza hut waiting for a pizza ( I was pulled to the ground by my hair and kicked once and all this was without warning. I think it was to do with a party that was going on up the road, maybe mistakin identity?) I am always polite and I don't begrudge them for giving me a ticket, I know the law and i willingly break it, but I've been let off for doing 110km/h in a fifty but given a ticket for doing 61km/h in a 50 but as I said before about 2/3rds are all good! as many have said before... I don't want to be doing there jobs, so don't have a cry if one cop is having a bad day and gave you a hard time!

[sunhuntin]

very little experience with cops...only ever had one ticket and that was no seatbelt!
have been caught up in rego checks etc, but one time this has happened, me and the other bike both got waved through :innocent: gotta love that! even with my barely there l plate, they just let me go, lol.
i do speed, but for some reason ive always been able to sense where theres a cop, and keep my speed even, or else i get stuck behind a slow vehicle, or a car flashes their lights at me.

plus all the local cops have bp fuel cards, which means i deal with a couple a week through work....i have to be polite, and hope to god that works in my favour if i ever do get pulled up for something.

[JimO]

my first time stopped by a cop was in 1976 i was 16 we had done a booze cruse from Dunedin to Oamaru on a sat night in a mk3 Zephyr, i drove, didnt have a licence. in Oamaru i went sideways around a corner and there was a black and white he stopped me and asked for my licence (didnt even look at the large bottle'o speights between my legs). "dont have a licence " i say "ok" he says slow down and be on your way. I got pulled over lots of times on bikes and never got a ticket, once on a RD 350 the cop says "jeez that thing can go"

[Sketchy_Racer]

shit, I don't have enough time to write about all the tickets ive had (about 50) !

Shit! You are either really dumb and dont learn from your mistakes.

Or your really rich.

I aint had a ticket yet...... hopefully not to soon either. But i guess if i dont speed i wont get a ticket!!

[KLOWN]

Shit! You are either really dumb and dont learn from your mistakes.

Or your really rich.

I aint had a ticket yet...... hopefully not to soon either. But i guess if i dont speed i wont get a ticket!!

all the tickets have stopped me being rich, and i just love going fast too much to stop doing it so I guess I'm dumb but thats fine by me.

edit: I have had only one ticket on my bike the rest have been in cars and i think the most tickets i got was when i owned a modified mini, man that car is fun to drive round in and it could ALMOST get to 200kph, just not fun stopping with four drum breaks.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Lol yeah you probably would be rich if you got all the $$ back from your tickets!

[McJim]

Well Sunday came and went and I still haven't met that elusive creature the Kiwi Copper. Mav reckons he saw one in a mufty car in Clevedon but then I've told him to stop taking the drugs. Prob just some dude driving to church in his sunday best.

So still can't pass an opinion yet.

[Finn]

Short guy, gnome like beard?

I'm not a pig. We'll I am at the dinner table and in the fart sack.

[McJim]

Short guy, gnome like beard?

Nah Finn - he meant the guys beard looked like a gnome not that the beard made the guy look like a gnome!

Keep your eyes open for a copper with a gnome hanging out of his mouth.

Was thnking about this the other day when I passed a little fella sitting at the side of the road with his head between his knees. I said "are you a Goblin?" He replied "Nah, I've just got a sore head.":rofl:

[terbang]

Met some good ones and also some fuckwits. We seem to pick a few up in aviation starting a new career. Takes some of them a while to come back to earth after they realise that they are back on the bottom of the pile again. But all in all they make fairly good pilots..

[Flyingpony]

1st stop - Stopped one night 2km from home with broken tail light (was working three days prior). Took him ages to get out of car, must've run plate through but that gave me time to remove helmet etc. Friendly bloke, small chit chat like where do you live,,, told me to ride home with brake slightly on. No ticket.

2nd stop - :scratch: Haven't had one.

Haven't been stopped in the car either, excluding when they breath test all cars,,, been a few years since the last one.

However, I seem to have the luck of the draw and only spot speed camera's once they are in my mirrors,,, no tickets yet :sweatdrop

[kiwifruit]

Police are, and always will be, a cross section of society.

You ask any of the cops on here if there are Police Officers they have known or worked with who they feel would to a better service to the police if they just left? They will all say yes.

At the end of the day there are some downright assholes in the Police but there are some really good kunts too. Most of the lads are good but there are a few who spoil it a little for the rest.

i fully agree

[Lou Girardin]

Police are, and always will be, a cross section of society.



They could have rejected the criminals though.

[Biff]

They could have rejected the criminals though.

Like the Labour party?

[WRT]

Like the Labour party?

No, they are the criminals WE should have rejected. The problem is that too many voters accepted their bribes.

[ManDownUnder]

In these situations someone is always an arsehole - if it's not the Cop...it must be you.

You can tell - it's the one who's breath smells like shit

[ManDownUnder]

Yeah - since I got back on a bike after an 8 year gap...
1st stop... warning bike cop ... "Now I have you out of sight of the camera... don't split like that... split like this"
2nd stop... warning... bike cop "Now I have you out of sight of the camera... don't split like that... split like this"

I think there's a pattern here...

I have no problem with cops doing their jobs. Both times I would have accepted the $150 reminder as I was in the wronig... knowingly.

There will be good cops and bad cops. But then I challenge you find me a profession with no arseholes it.

[The_Dover]

There will be good cops and bad cops. But then I challenge you find me a profession with no arseholes it.

Proctology?

[ManDownUnder]

Proctology?

Full of arseholes mate. And never accept an invite to the protological society poker match... they don't use cards and most of the volunteers come away walking funny

[Finn]

Just a few moments ago, I had a good run in with the cops. I was in my office at home and looked down to see a couple of niggers going through our letterboxes. I open the window and asked them what they were doing. They did their staunch nigger moves which I can only assume was some form of primitive communication.

Anyway, I called the cops and within minutes that were on the scene. I couldn't see if they caught them but I hope they Rodney King'd them.

Well done cops.

[Brett]

Just a few moments ago, I had a good run in with the cops. I was in my office at home and looked down to see a couple of niggers going through our letterboxes. I open the window and asked them what they were doing. They did their staunch nigger moves which I can only assume was some form of primitive communication.

Anyway, I called the cops and within minutes that were on the scene. I couldn't see if they caught them but I hope they Rodney King'd them.

Well done cops.

LOL...LOving the communication bit.

[Lou Girardin]

Well we got rid of you before the merger... :shifty:

We? You were barely a gleam in your old mans eye. :yes:

[Pixie]

At the end of the day there are some downright assholes in the Police but there are some really good kunts too.

So either way they are orrificers :dodge:

[scumdog]

You're ALL delusional, all cops are latent aresholes, just add the correct catalyst at the appropriate time and fine out!!:yes:

[Lou Girardin]

You're ALL delusional, all cops are latent aresholes, just add the correct catalyst at the appropriate time and fine out!!:yes:

Nothing latent about you fella.:done:

[roogazza]

Was talking to an old instructor mate the other day. The standards have been lowered to try and get people to join but it isn't working ! He reckons some in there at the mo are really below par.
and to give an example of the type getting in, one lunch time recently he said he saw a bunch of them skateboarding round the Admin block !!!!!!!!!!!!

I can just imagine some of them in an "I" car or with weapons ??? !!!!!!! Gaz.

[KLOWN]

Was talking to an old instructor mate the other day. The standards have been lowered to try and get people to join but it isn't working ! He reckons some in there at the mo are really below par.
and to give an example of the type getting in, one lunch time recently he said he saw a bunch of them skateboarding round the Admin block !!!!!!!!!!!!

I can just imagine some of them in an "I" car or with weapons ??? !!!!!!! Gaz.

thats fuckin funny, i'd love to see video footage of cops skating around on thier luch break, they are probably smoking pot in the toilets too!

[Skyryder]

thats fuckin funny, i'd love to see video footage of cops skating around on thier luch break, they are probably smoking pot in the toilets too!

Now the toilet pan would make a 'shit' hot bong. Wouldn't do much for the flavour but at least the drug dogs would be fooled.

Skyryder

[Patrick]

Was talking to an old instructor mate the other day. The standards have been lowered to try and get people to join but it isn't working ! He reckons some in there at the mo are really below par.
and to give an example of the type getting in, one lunch time recently he said he saw a bunch of them skateboarding round the Admin block !!!!!!!!!!!!

I can just imagine some of them in an "I" car or with weapons ??? !!!!!!! Gaz.

Was there for a qualifying course a couple of years ago and the talk was South Auckland gangsta styles man... All our group could do NOT to walk up to em and "adjust the attitudes..."

Scary thoughts.....gives ya the shites!!!

[roogazza]

I was at the colleges' ( Trentham and Porirua) from 76 to 85 ! I won't repeat them on here , but I could tell you some bloody funny stories . If you have been through the system you'll know the sort of stuff, I have nine years of it, should write a book ? (good comic) Gaz. :shutup:

[saltydog]

I got clocked at 145, I had the chance to run (he was coming head on) but thought, na fuck it, i'll take the rap. Turned out he was more pissed off that his abs wasnt working as he locked up trying to slow down and do a 180 to get on my tail. he wasnt too bad the fine was $480.
The most recent classic one, stopped with the boat on the back, 10am sunny, no one about, just filled up with snapper.....he clocked me at 61 in a 50.....far enough....lectured me for ages so I gave up and asked if he was giving me a ticket, yes was the reply, I said gee you sure know how to ruin a mans day, he replyed........thats what happens when you go fishing and I can't! then he goes....the ticket will be in the post....wanker.