The Helen Clark Community.

[Dafe]

Born & Bred, working New Zealanders take note:

The next time you walk past a Somalian or Middle Eastern refugee, please step aside...... Please Respect the First Class NZ Citizen.

For if you are born in this country and worked in this country all your life, you rate as a second class citizen.

Under this Labour Government, It is only the first class citizens in this country that get the Executive Package, which includes free housing, free food, free medical & dental care, free money and a Labour policy exemption from the workforce!

Even HIV positive refugees are so valuable to the Labour party, that they will gratefully accept their residency applications and immigrate them to NZ and treat them at the cost of the Taxpayer, and then the taxpayers can pay to keep them in their taxpayer funded houses for the rest of their lives, while they receive taxpayer benefits of course.

Next time you second rate New Zealanders fill in any official documents, don't forget to tick the "Number of Dependants" box & write - All first class Citizens/Refugees.

This is the good that Labour has done for this country!:angry:

BTW, Did any body see Helen Clarke on TV last night saying she wouldn't pay back a single dollar that the Labour Party overspent in the elections?

Her only comment was that National also overspent too!

The difference BITCH! Is that National immediately paid back every dollar of their overspent money to the Taxpayers.
It's good enough for right wing, So why not the Government?

Is that not Theft???

[Lou Girardin]

Where can we see the written policy that permits this?

[Finn]

Where can we see the written policy that permits this?

Probably in the same filing cabinet with the "Cops are revenue collectors" policy. Labour don't need Policies to fuck with our lives. They're above that.

[sels1]

hmmm someone a bit grumpy this morning Dafe?:dodge:

not that I am disagreeing with your sentiment...:yes:

[Dooly]

Well said Dafe.:yes:

[Lil_Byte]

I take it you won't be voting for Helen and her Cronies next elections.

That is unless of course she figures that she will not win an election and institute a dictatorship :scooter:

[KATWYN]

National immediately paid back every dollar of their overspent money to the Taxpayers.
It's good enough for right wing, So why not the Government?

Is that not Theft???

I wouldn't have thought advertising the parties is theft. Its just advertising and general expenses. Part of "running a business" I spose. (one we all have shares in!)

How do we know National paid back every cent......did they tell us that ? or
are there some documents to prove thats the case ?

[MacD]

When did this website turn into talkback radio? :zzzz:

[Damon]

I wouldn't have thought advertising the parties is theft. Its just advertising and general expenses. Part of "running a business" I spose. (one we all have shares in!)

How do we know National paid back every cent......did they tell us that ? or
are there some documents to prove thats the case ?

The Auditor General said so, in his report he stated that the money spent on the labour pledge cards was illegal, National also over spent which was illegal too, the difference was National only over spent 10k and then paid it back, Labour over spent 400k and are telling us to stick it up our ass they can do what the fuck they like.

This and their other shady dealings (Phillip Field, 170+kph to get to the footy), they think they are above the law and everyone else, i cant wait for the election because i want to see how much they loose by, GOOOOONE!

[Finn]

This and their other shady dealings (Phillip Field, 170+kph to get to the footy), they think they are above the law and everyone else, i cant wait for the election because i want to see how much they loose by, GOOOOONE!

If you wanted to, you could write a book on Labours failures and corrupt activity. Most of this goes right over the head of the average NZder who just thinks Clark is loverly.

[SARGE]

i've had my residency in NZ for a couple years now .. but let me tell you what .. it was a hard road getting it ..

my caseworker was this LOVELY Pakistani lady who immediately took a dislike to me when she saw the US Passport.. she had me jumping through hoops for months ( demanding to see my military records .. demanding a DENTAL certificate.. stupid shit like that ...)

i am married ( 4 years now) to a beautiful Kiwi lady.. had been for 2 years when i applied for my P.R.

i also had some MAJOR issues with a few other things ..



i had a full time job
i spoke fluent English
i arrived with my passport , on an airplane and not washing up on the beach in a leaky fishing boat or stowed away on a container ship after flushing my passport down the shitter or burning it in the trashcan..
i was in perfect health


when i think back.. im lucky i got in at all...

[bobsmith]

That is unless of course she figures that she will not win an election and institute a dictatorship :scooter:

Well we're already the other halfway there to communist dictatorship...

[placidfemme]

Born & Bred, working New Zealanders take note:

The next time you walk past a Somalian or Middle Eastern refugee, please step aside...... Please Respect the First Class NZ Citizen.

For if you are born in this country and worked in this country all your life, you rate as a second class citizen.

Under this Labour Government, It is only the first class citizens in this country that get the Executive Package, which includes free housing, free food, free medical & dental care, free money and a Labour policy exemption from the workforce!

Even HIV positive refugees are so valuable to the Labour party, that they will gratefully accept their residency applications and immigrate them to NZ and treat them at the cost of the Taxpayer, and then the taxpayers can pay to keep them in their taxpayer funded houses for the rest of their lives, while they receive taxpayer benefits of course.

Next time you second rate New Zealanders fill in any official documents, don't forget to tick the "Number of Dependants" box & write - All first class Citizens/Refugees.

This is the good that Labour has done for this country!:angry:

BTW, Did any body see Helen Clarke on TV last night saying she wouldn't pay back a single dollar that the Labour Party overspent in the elections?

Her only comment was that National also overspent too!

The difference BITCH! Is that National immediately paid back every dollar of their overspent money to the Taxpayers.
It's good enough for right wing, So why not the Government?

Is that not Theft???

You know... I don't agree with what Helen is doing... and I personally think she has done a shit job since her time as PM began... however... I have some issues with your post...

Not every person who comes in as an immigrant or a refugee gets "first class treatment..." as well as the fact that not every immigrant/refugee bludges off the govt either...

I'm an immigrant... and a REFUGEE and I've never used your tax money for jack shit, I've never lived in a state house, or had any handouts from your wonderful govt...

If you don't like it get off your ass and do something about it :whocares:

[u4ea]

You know... I don't agree with what Helen is doing... and I personally think she has done a shit job since her time as PM began... however... I have some issues with your post...

Not every person who comes in as an immigrant or a refugee gets "first class treatment..." as well as the fact that not every immigrant/refugee bludges off the govt either...

I'm an immigrant... and a REFUGEE and I've never used your tax money for jack shit, I've never lived in a state house, or had any handouts from your wonderful govt...

If you don't like it get off your ass and do something about it :whocares:

well glad you found refuge here at kb too but the general rule is if your from the states or england or europe this pathetic dictatoship we are under tends to make it TEN times harder to get in ......and this dictarorship would rather appear to be pc than actually look after nz born citizens...i worked all my life and now I am stuggling more than ever to get ahead...i am a refugee under the labour government.......

[The Pastor]

well glad you found refuge here at kb too but the general rule is if your from the states or england or europe this pathetic dictatoship we are under tends to make it TEN times harder to get in ......and this dictarorship would rather appear to be pc than actually look after nz born citizens...i worked all my life and now I am stuggling more than ever to get ahead...i am a refugee under the labour government.......

Excatly.

The cycle is this.

Natioal gets voted in for years and years. They save up heaps of money. People want to spend the money, they vote out the nats and vote in labour. Labour spends all the money(while screwing up everything). People want some money saved up(/problems actually fixed). They vote out labour and vote in the nats.

Its happening again. Just watch.

[Dafe]

I wouldn't have thought advertising the parties is theft. Its just advertising and general expenses. Part of "running a business" I spose. (one we all have shares in!)

How do we know National paid back every cent......did they tell us that ? or
are there some documents to prove thats the case ?

The Attorney General said the money was taken unlawfully - Meaning, that it is considered stolen.

There is a budget allocated for party expenditure during election campaigns.
That money is allocated taxpayer money. The excess $400,000? that was spent was not allocated for the Labour parties overspending. It was our taxpayers money.

The Attorney General is satisfied that the National party repaid all their over-expenditure.

As the crime is now considered theft, A libertarian group is in the process of taking the Labour Govt to court over the issue.

[Finn]

If I laundered $800k of my company's profit, I'd got to jail.

A public stoning of Helen Clark is the only answer. We might even let the bitch live.

[Swoop]

The Attorney General said the money was taken unlawfully - Meaning, that it is considered stolen.

As the crime is now considered theft, A libertarian group is in the process of taking the Labour Govt to court over the issue.
Excellent!

[Dooly]

A public stoning of Helen Clark is the only answer. We might even let the bitch live.

Let her live?
C'mon.:no:

[placidfemme]

A public stoning of Helen Clark is the only answer. We might even let the bitch live.

I don't think thats very fair on the stones... how would you like to be thrown against something that ugly?

[candor]

Speaking of corruption - taito, overspending and speeding does anyone have a theory as to whether political murder is also a feature of this diabolical reign?

I believe Hell is the first PM I have heard people consistently refer to as evil hence I will permit my mind to meander down this path.

Reason I ask opinions re if Labour is "capable", is that I heard a bona fide nutter ranting about an alleged unIntelligence Service hit (isn't Clark their boss). But those I spoke to thought the dirty deed more likely carried out by the pharmaceutical Co.

Naturally our Labour lovin media swept it under the carpet.

The facts. A greenie guy (he's memorialised on the Greens website) did tons of research on 245t poisoning of Taranaki residents by Dow. He had kilograms of files pointing at major damage to local residents. The MOH investigated and said "we don't think so". He was (after many years) about to file a class action or something on behalf particularly of local Maori - some of whom believed 245t had produced much gay population!

He was promptly burnt to a cinder in his house in the middle of the day. The suspicious fire also started seperately in his garage destroying the kilos of papers.

WTF? An interesting case not at all picked up on by our sycophantic media. When I first heard of it I thought the guy telling the story was dreaming. But I checked up and it was all checking out true. He says Govt had a motive as it woulda cost them big.

Or could big business be in cahoots. I'm so nosey - I like resolution to these things. As it puts you off being one to speak up really, thinking you might get roasted for a wrong opinion, activism or whatever. Would she approve it?

[MSTRS]

.... you might get roasted for a wrong opinion, activism or whatever. Would she approve it?

The evil witch is capable of anything, hell, she can even......tell lies......when it suits her.

[Swoop]

Perhaps all future politicians need to have an L plate.
Maybe make them politicians for Stewart Island, and have a mini economy there. The best ones who perform to the highest standards and do the best for that community are then allowed to join in the "real" parliament.

[SPman]

Naturally our Labour lovin media swept it under the carpet.

WHAT! ???????????

Thats the first time I've heard it called that!

[Damon]

some of whom believed 245t had produced much gay population!

HAHAHAHA :killingme

[The Pastor]

WHAT! ???????????

Thats the first time I've heard it called that!

Has your head been in the sand? Living under a rock?

[The Pastor]

Speaking of corruption - taito, overspending and speeding does anyone have a theory as to whether political murder is also a feature of this diabolical reign?

I believe Hell is the first PM I have heard people consistently refer to as evil hence I will permit my mind to meander down this path.

Reason I ask opinions re if Labour is "capable", is that I heard a bona fide nutter ranting about an alleged unIntelligence Service hit (isn't Clark their boss). But those I spoke to thought the dirty deed more likely carried out by the pharmaceutical Co.

Naturally our Labour lovin media swept it under the carpet.

The facts. A greenie guy (he's memorialised on the Greens website) did tons of research on 245t poisoning of Taranaki residents by Dow. He had kilograms of files pointing at major damage to local residents. The MOH investigated and said "we don't think so". He was (after many years) about to file a class action or something on behalf particularly of local Maori - some of whom believed 245t had produced much gay population!

He was promptly burnt to a cinder in his house in the middle of the day. The suspicious fire also started seperately in his garage destroying the kilos of papers.

WTF? An interesting case not at all picked up on by our sycophantic media. When I first heard of it I thought the guy telling the story was dreaming. But I checked up and it was all checking out true. He says Govt had a motive as it woulda cost them big.

Or could big business be in cahoots. I'm so nosey - I like resolution to these things. As it puts you off being one to speak up really, thinking you might get roasted for a wrong opinion, activism or whatever. Would she approve it?

LABOUR owns THE MEDIA.

[KATWYN]

The Attorney General said the money was taken unlawfully - Meaning, that it is considered stolen.

There is a budget allocated for party expenditure during election campaigns.
That money is allocated taxpayer money. The excess $800,000 that was spent was not allocated for the Labour parties overspending. It was our taxpayers money.

The Attorney General is satisfied that the National party repaid all their over-expenditure.

As the crime is now considered theft, A libertarian group is in the process of taking the Labour Govt to court over the issue.

Sweet. Yea someone else answered with the same thing as you. Its obvious I don't follow politics :zzzz:

[WINJA]

Fucken Helen The Whore She Gotta Be The Most Evil Bitch Walking The Earth

[SARGE]

The next time you walk past a Somalian or Middle Eastern refugee, please step aside...... Please Respect the First Class NZ Citizen.


in order to become more PC and Socially Responsible.... i did some research on how NOT to offend our Islamic brothers and sisters ....



I am wondering if it would be more polite not to use the urinal in a men's room if someone who I believe is Moslem is nearby at the wash basin. I know that for women the modesty laws are a lot stricter than for most Western women, and I respect Islamic women very much for that. I also don't want to offend Moslems if there is some way I may be acting in an immodest way, unknowingly, around them.


First of all, we must thank you for you concern about the feelings of Muslims and your efforts to find out what may offend them so that you may avoid it.

Islamic sharee’ah includes a number of rules and manners to be followed when answering the call of nature, including the following:

1. Not to face the qiblah (direction of prayer, i.e. the Ka’bah which was built in Makkah by Ibrahim, upon whom be peace, as commanded by Allaah) when urinating or defecating. This is out of respect for the Qiblah and for the symbols and rituals of Allaah. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When any one of you sits down to answer the call of nature, he should not face the qiblah or turn his back towards it.” (Reported by Muslim, 389).

2. He should not touch his penis with his right hand when urinating, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When any one of you urinates, he should not hold his penis in his right hand or clean it with his right hand; and (when drinking), he should not breathe into the vessel.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 150).

3. He should not remove najaasah (impurity) with his right hand; the left hand should be used for this purpose, because of the hadeeth quoted above, and because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When any one of you wipes himself, he should not use his right hand.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 5199). The Prophet’s wife Hafsah (may Allaah be pleased with her) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to use his right hand for eating, drinking, making wudoo’, getting dressed, and giving and taking things, and he used to use his left hand for other things. (Reported by Imaam Ahmad; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 4912). Abu Hurayrah reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When any one of you cleans himself, he should not use his right hand, he should use his left hand.” (Reported by Ibn Maajah, 308; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 322).

4. The Sunnah is to answer the call of nature sitting, making oneself close to the ground, because this is more concealing, and makes it less likely that spray from one's urine will come back on one’s body or clothes, making them dirty. If a person can be sure of avoiding this, then it is permissible to urinate standing up.

5. A person should be concealed from the sight of others when answering the call of nature. The Messenger of Allaah used to prefer to go behind a rise in the ground or a garden of date palms. . If a person is out in an open space and cannot find anything to conceal him when he needs to answer the call of nature, he should move far away from the other people around him, because al-Mugheerah ibn Shu’bah said: “I was with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) on a journey, when he felt the need to answer the call of nature, so he went far away.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 20; he said it is a saheeh hasan hadeeth). ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Abi Quraad said: “I went out with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to an open space, and when he needed to answer the call of nature, he moved away.”

6. A person should not uncover his ‘awrah (private parts) until after he has squatted close to the ground, because this is more concealing, as Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported: “When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) wanted to answer the call of nature, he would not lift his garment until he had squatted close to the ground.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 14; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 4652). If a person is in a (modern) toilet, he should not lift his garment until he has closed the door and is out of sight of other people. With regard to this point and the one before, it is worth noting that the habit of many people in the West and elsewhere, of urinating in a standing position in front of other people in public toilets (using urinals) is something which goes against good manners, modesty and decency, and is repulsive to anyone who possesses sound common sense and wisdom. How can anybody uncover in front of other people the ‘awrah (private parts) which Allaah has placed between his legs to conceal it and commanded him to cover it? The idea that it should be covered is well established among all wise and decent people of all races. It is wrong in principle to build restrooms of this shameful type, where the users can see one another, thus making them worse than some kinds of animals whose habit is to conceal themselves from one another when urinating or defecating.

7. It is also good manners according to Sharee’ah to recite certain adhkaar (supplications) when entering or leaving the toilet, which are quite appropriate to the situation and place. Our Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) taught us that when entering the toilet, we should say: “Allaahumma innee a’oodhi bika min al-khubthi wa’l-khabaa’ith (O Allah, I seek refuge with You from male and female devils).” When leaving the toilet, he should say: “Ghufraanak (I seek Your forgiveness).”

8. He should be careful to remove all impurity after answering the call of nature, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned against being careless in cleaning oneself after urinating: “Most of the punishment of the grave will be because of urine.” (Reported by Ibn Maajah, 342; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 1202). Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both) reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) passed by two graves, and said: “They are being punished, but they are not being punished for any major sin. One of them used not to protect himself (i.e. keep himself clean from) his urine, and the other used to walk about spreading malicious gossip.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 5592).

9. Any impurity should be washed or wiped three times or an odd number of times greater than three, according to whatever is needed to cleanse it, because ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to wash his posterior three times. Ibn ‘Umar said: “We did this too and found it to be healing and cleansing.” (Reported by Ibn Maajah, 350; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 4993). Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When anyone of you cleans himself (with stones or similar material) let him use an odd number.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad; classed as hasan in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 375).

10. He should not use bones or dung to clean himself or wipe away the impurity, rather, he should use tissue, stones, and the like. Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that he used to carry a vessel for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to do wudoo’ and clean himself after answering the call of nature. Whilst he was following him, he (the Prophet) asked, “Who is that?” He said: “I am Abu Hurayrah.” He said: “Get me some stones I can use to clean myself, but do not bring me any bones or dung.” So I brought him some stones, carrying them in the hem of my garment, and placed them by his side, then I went away. When he had finished, I came back and asked him, “What is wrong with bones and dung?” He said: “They are the food of the jinn.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 3571).

11. A person should not urinate into stagnant water, because Jaabir (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade anyone to urinate into stagnant water (reported by Muslim, 423), and because this makes the water impure and harms those who use it.

12. A person should not urinate by the roadside or in places where people seek shade, because this is offensive to them. Abu Hurayrah reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Fear the two things that bring curses.” They asked, “What are the two things that bring curses, O Messenger of Allaah?” He said: “When a person relieves himself in the road where people walk or in the place where they seek shade.” (Reported by Abu Dawud, 23; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 110).

13. One should not greet a person who is answering the call of nature, or return a greeting whilst one is answering the call of nature, out of respect to Allaah by not mentioning His name in a dirty place. [Translator’s note: the Islamic greeting is “al-salaam ‘alaykum (peace be upon you)”; one of the names of Allaah is al-Salaam (the Peace)]. Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah reported that a man passed by the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) whilst he was urinating, and greeted him. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to him: “If you see me in this state, do not greet me, because if you do, I will not respond.” (Reported by Ibn Maajah, 346; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 575). The majority of scholars say that it is makrooh (disliked) to speak in the restroom unnecessarily.

[The_Dover]

Wiping your arse with your left hand ain't easy!! (if your right handed)

Go try it.

[Finn]

Looking at the following photo of helen clark, one could argue that the bulge in her man trousers could quite possibly be a penis.

[Flatcap]

Looking at the following photo of helen clark, one could argue that the bulge in her man trousers could quite possibly be a penis.

Thanks for putting me off my morning coffee Finn - that is sickening

[Finn]

Looking at Miss Clarks resume, it is little wonder that NZ is in the state it's in. Do you realise that she has never worked a single day in her life in a real job? She 100% academic and full of theory which of course is perfect for a staunce socialist. It's like hiring a MSDN graduate and putting them in charge of Microsoft.

[The_Dover]

Looking at the following photo of helen clark, one could argue that the bulge in her man trousers could quite possibly be a penis.

Fuck a duck, that is a most hideous sight. Euuch, she is foul. I'm actually quite disturbed that someone this ugly and clearly incompetent and work shy is the leader of this cuntry.

No, really.

[Dafe]

Bwahahaahaha.......... Thats just Sick!

Remember this:

[Patrick]

When did this website turn into talkback radio? :zzzz:

When it commenced?

[Patrick]

[QUOTE=candor;751500]The facts. A greenie guy (he's memorialised on the Greens website) did tons of research on 245t poisoning of Taranaki residents by Dow. He had kilograms of files pointing at major damage to local residents. The MOH investigated and said "we don't think so". He was (after many years) about to file a class action or something on behalf particularly of local Maori - some of whom believed 245t had produced much gay population!

He was promptly burnt to a cinder in his house in the middle of the day. The suspicious fire also started seperately in his garage destroying the kilos of papers.

WTF? An interesting case not at all picked up on by our sycophantic media. When I first heard of it I thought the guy telling the story was dreaming. But I checked up and it was all checking out true. He says Govt had a motive as it woulda cost them big.

QUOTE]
And just when did this event occur?
Its kinda like one of those things we would hear about...The facts???? Pffftttt.....

[Dooly]

Looking at the following photo of helen clark, one could argue that the bulge in her man trousers could quite possibly be a penis.

By fuck thats one ugly woman/man/tranny????:gob:

[KATWYN]

Well personally I think shes ok. A woman whos worked damn
hard to be in the position shes in.

Its clutching at straws to pull her down in this way

Show some respect.

[Finn]

Well personally I think shes ok. A woman whos worked damn
hard to be in the position shes in.

Its clutching at straws to pull her down in this way

Show some respect.

Exactly, "A woman who's worked damn hard to be in the position she's in" It's a disgrace than along her journey she didn't factor NZ's wellbeing into the equation.

She should be crushed like a bug.

[Pixie]

Looking at the following photo of helen clark, one could argue that the bulge in her man trousers could quite possibly be a penis.

That's not The Hagg,it's Neil the dead hippy

btw ever noticed how all the Pinko polies have some obvious genetic defect?
Like half of their faces are dead,or a limp or stutters or terminal ugliness.
In any normal country they'd be required to wear bags over their heads,not voted into power

[KATWYN]

Exactly, "A woman who's worked damn hard to be in the position she's in" It's a disgrace than along her journey she didn't factor NZ's wellbeing into the equation.

She should be crushed like a bug.

We all live in fear - just like the Americans. NOT.

New Zealand has one of the highest rates of employment - everyone can
have an opportunity to take responsibility and care for their own wellbeing.

We are nuclear free.

Politics arent my thing. Thats my 2c worth

[Flatcap]

Well personally I think shes ok. A woman whos worked damn
hard to be in the position shes in.

Its clutching at straws to pull her down in this way

Show some respect.

No arguement she works hard, the problem is she is working hard at stuffing the country

[Swoop]

New Zealand has one of the highest rates of employment...

This comment originates because of our "low" un-employment rate???
If that is so, you need to realise that a lot of unemployed people have been shifted sideways onto "medical benefits" rather than being allowed to remain on the unemployment benefit.
This (high unemployment) would reflect badly on the gubbinment, and "fudging the figures" allows for their migration policy to be pushed heavily...

[KATWYN]

This comment originates because of our "low" un-employment rate???


No it originates because of a high employment rate (job availability). Have you tried to find
staff lately. Ask any SME how hard it is to find staff.

Its an employees market. Good employees can just about dictate
their own employment package

["D" FZ1]

Who voted the Bitch in anyway ????? Not me!!!!!

[Swoop]

No it originates because of a high employment rate (job availability). Have you tried to find
staff lately. Ask any SME how hard it is to find staff.

Its an employees market. Good employees can just about dictate
their own employment package
Roger that!
We have major skills shortages as well in our sector, and this is driving the gubbinment to allow the senior members of our society to work for longer. Not the ideal situation to be in instead of having your feet up and enjoying retirement...

[Dafe]

Well personally I think shes ok. A woman whos worked damn
hard to be in the position shes in.

Its clutching at straws to pull her down in this way

Show some respect.

She's a bitch! She ain't interested in anything to do with you, apart from your taxes. She only wants your taxes so she can give them to beneficiaries.
I'm afraid you won't find any support in this post for that Man-Woman!

[Dafe]

No it originates because of a high employment rate (job availability). Have you tried to find
staff lately. Ask any SME how hard it is to find staff.

Its an employees market. Good employees can just about dictate
their own employment package

At the expense of an all time high crime rate?

At the expense of the tax payers wages being given to beneficiaries?

At the expense of treating refugees with HIV, before treating our own woman with Breast Cancer?

The workers are taxed so heavily.
Aussie pays 2/3 the price we pay for petrol. Our Govt takes the big cut!

They are writing rules to allow themselves to do what they want.

They no longer believe they have to answer to NZ'ers.

Get the Communist Bitch Out!

and as Finn says: Burn the Bitch & squash her like a bug!!:rofl:

[u4ea]

...i remember pig dog jenny shipply going on the dole for a week but the truth is im sure her freezer was full ,her power was up to date,and her car was registered!!!!however she did have kids and bought in the family support increases ..if your child is over 14 ect.....helen the pug dog has no kids and has no real grasp of what it is to just live day to day..and as for low unemployment ..everyone is taking part time jobs just to survive as the bloody contracts act has pretty well screwed most workers....so of course it looks good on paper!!!

the treaty of waitangi is a joke....i watch maori tv and all they ever do is bitch and moan and want more..and teach their young to establish a state of apherteit in nz!!!!!!

whenare our leaders gunna stop with all the kindergarten tactics they play in our parliment and get down to the business of listening to all the people of this wonderful country instead of taking credit on the backs of hard working folk.........(whatever colour or creed)

my 2 cents:shutup:

[WRT]

Have you tried to find
staff lately. Ask any SME how hard it is to find staff.

It's only people that are on a reasonable wage or have too many morals that would even want to work. Why spend 8 hours a day slaving away for someone else when you can rest on your laurels and get paid a good amount NOT to work. Claim a bad back, a gammy leg, or pop out a couple of sprogs, its easier than going to job interviews and turning up to work at 8am every day.

Benefits for able bodied people should be a stop gap measure to help them get back on their feet, not a way of life.

[oldrider]

...i remember pig dog jenny shipply going on the dole for a week but the truth is im sure her freezer was full ,her power was up to date,and her car was registered!!!!however she did have kids and bought in the family support increases ..if your child is over 14 ect.....helen the pug dog has no kids and has no real grasp of what it is to just live day to day..and as for low unemployment ..everyone is taking part time jobs just to survive as the bloody contracts act has pretty well screwed most workers....so of course it looks good on paper!!!

the treaty of waitangi is a joke....i watch maori tv and all they ever do is bitch and moan and want more..and teach their young to establish a state of apherteit in nz!!!!!!

whenare our leaders gunna stop with all the kindergarten tactics they play in our parliment and get down to the business of listening to all the people of this wonderful country instead of taking credit on the backs of hard working folk.........(whatever colour or creed)

my 2 cents:shutup:

Don't you mean the "Employment relationship act"?

Most people had never ever actually read the "Employment contracts act" let alone understood it.

It was a very small document of just a few easy to understand pages, the rest was about how to deal with personal grievances as applied to industrial law of the time.

I have not read the Employment relationships act (Labours act) at all as I had retired when it was passed.

I admit bias but I would expect it to be a very wordy document. :yes: John.

[u4ea]

.....well all i know is ya have to have a contract of some sort otherwise the employer can go for a skate.... but if you opt into a collective then you may have all ya penal rates.redundancies and allowances written out of them..and that is why more pople are taking xtra jobs on or two income families as theres no xtra pay for weekend work in most cases..if you go for a individual contract you may be able to negitiate different pay rates and terms.......

[Motu]

Get the Communist Bitch Out!


I wish she was a communist - then we wouldn't have any immigrants,no unemployed,we would have factories of mindless workers churning out products.We would have a military with guns and warships and fighter planes and bombers.She's too fucking right wing for me!

[Squeak the Rat]

No it originates because of a high employment rate (job availability). Have you tried to find
staff lately. Ask any SME how hard it is to find staff.


But whatever you do, do NOT associate our recent economic boom with Labour's effectiveness. Economies run in cycles, and there has been a boom. It's made labour look great [to garden slugs] - anyone can look good when everythings rosy. Bring on the recession and lets see how good a job that corrupt, lying, two-faced, hypocritical trout does then.

[Finn]

But whatever you do, do NOT associate our recent economic boom with Labour's effectiveness. Economies run in cycles, and there has been a boom. It's made labour look great [to garden slugs] - anyone can look good when everythings rosy. Bring on the recession and lets see how good a job that corrupt, lying, two-faced, hypocritical trout does then.

I'm proud of you son.

[Motu]

Bring on the recession .

And NZ will go into recession too,regardless of who is in control of the country,as you say,ecconomies run in cycles.A better government will have better damage control - but we won't be an island of plenty amid a starving world.

[Lias]

We are nuclear free.

Hopefully not much fucking longer! That fucknucle lange is dead now, so we can start undoing the mess he made, and get some cheap power.

[Finn]

Hopefully not much fucking longer! That fucknucle lange is dead now, so we can start undoing the mess he made, and get some cheap power.

Yeah and lets buy a used russian reactor and plonk it in Wellington! (We'll just get Colapop out first and anybody else I've missed)

[Lias]

Yeah and lets buy a used russian reactor and plonk it in Wellington! (We'll just get Colapop out first and anybody else I've missed)

Sorry.. first planned meltdown is for Auckland. Was up there yesterday and my god what an immigrant infested shithole its turned into.

Millions of the bastards on the streets, wearing non western clothes, jabbering away in foreign languages.. the place has got to go.

[Finn]

Millions of the bastards on the streets, wearing non western clothes, jabbering away in foreign languages..

So you've met Dover then?

[Lias]

So you've met Dover then?

*snigger* Havnt had the err. .pleasure ::innocent:

[Dafe]

I wish she was a communist - then we wouldn't have any immigrants,no unemployed,we would have factories of mindless workers churning out products.We would have a military with guns and warships and fighter planes and bombers.She's too fucking right wing for me!

Give her a chance Motu, It doesn't happen overnight son!

We're steadily slipping rank in the OECD, so it's only time!

The poor non-working Aid's ionfested Immigrants are already on the same beneficial level as the lifelong hard workers.

Mother Communist China trade agreements are stronger than ever. The Industrial work is drying up.

The democratic U.S. ties are as bad as they could be.

Australias Prime Minister won't even acknowledge Helen Clark, He hates her!

She is Anti-Christian and a promoter of the sex industry.

She does what she wants and doesn't has to address any issue she doesn't want to - Like Election Overspending & the Taito Saga.
She'll change laws to suit her, not the nation!
This leader answers to no-one.

Are you Farking Blind? Or just a Beneficiary putting in their 2 cents worth?

Look what happened to England when they started opening their doors to every man and their dog with immigration.
Now they've farked their country.

Helen is doing the same.

[Motu]

She is Anti-Christian and a promoter of the sex industry.


There are always some positives - look to the bright side.

[oldrider]

I wish she was a communist - then we wouldn't have any immigrants,no unemployed,we would have factories of mindless workers churning out products.We would have a military with guns and warships and fighter planes and bombers.She's too fucking right wing for me!

Gee wiz Motu, do you mean we could be just like "Cuba", that "would" be an improvement! :shit: John.

[MidnightMike]

VOTE NATIONAL!!!

[Winston001]

Oh alright. Cripes some of you jokers are rednecks. A few poverty stricken refugees land in a wealthy nation of 4 million and you expect them to have no food, no clothing, and nowhere to live. Very compassionate.

And yet most of you would happily stop on the side of the road and help someone in trouble. You are decent people individually but you expect our nation to spurn refugees, deny them food and housing.

I don't like Helen Clark or her politics but criticising her for assistance to immigrants/refugees which is practised by most Western countries just doesn't fly.

[kro]

When one has the ability to write, and then re-write the law, nothing is a crime anymore. To quote the Reverend Lovejoy "when something has been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral".

[The Pastor]

BURN ALL THE asians!


Oh wait thats not whats going on here is it


*Puts away his kkk hoodie*

[candor]

The Hel Clark Community is not a community. Thats their PC jargon if they call it that. They are a cult more correctly. And she - she is the master manipulator. Investigate magazine says Hel nicked 250g from the poorest union for election adverts (this gal loves publicity) and got away with it by promising list jobs for the union officials.

In reading about the loon that just did that school shooting in Canada I stumbled on the story of Canadas last similar case. The guy said he did it because.... feminists...... ruined his life. Aren't their parallels here. Do you all think Don is pissed with Helen. Or would they be professional and treat it as just business?

[KATWYN]

The guy said he did it because.... feminists...... ruined his life.

:laugh: :eek: . Why didn't he just move to Afghanistan then, if repression
of woman was more his thing ??

[candor]

[QUOTE=candor;751500]The facts. A greenie guy (he's memorialised on the Greens website) did tons of research on 245t poisoning of Taranaki residents by Dow. He had kilograms of files pointing at major damage to local residents. The MOH investigated and said "we don't think so". He was (after many years) about to file a class action or something on behalf particularly of local Maori - some of whom believed 245t had produced much gay population!

He was promptly burnt to a cinder in his house in the middle of the day. The suspicious fire also started seperately in his garage destroying the kilos of papers.

QUOTE]
And just when did this event occur?
Its kinda like one of those things we would hear about...The facts???? Pffftttt.....

OK - bad memory which is why i didn't post the victims name to start with. Went to indymedia to track it down but the site has been changed and can't find it. Same with Greenpeace site. Will get back later, once track down the detils. It was in 2002 from memory and it was a Dutch guy ?Johan someone, knocked off survived by a daughter in Whangarei. Its not pfffft - it happened!
The guy was well known in Paritutu and I will get his name posted FYI and hopefully a link to media report re sus fire soon (if any still posted).

[Lias]

Oh alright. Cripes some of you jokers are rednecks. A few poverty stricken refugees land in a wealthy nation of 4 million and you expect them to have no food, no clothing, and nowhere to live. Very compassionate.

And yet most of you would happily stop on the side of the road and help someone in trouble. You are decent people individually but you expect our nation to spurn refugees, deny them food and housing.

I don't like Helen Clark or her politics but criticising her for assistance to immigrants/refugees which is practised by most Western countries just doesn't fly.
Oh really?

Lets take a look at Denmark then, which has some of the strictest immigration controls in the world, because they dont want to end up like sweden!

And its very much about Comrade Clark & her party, because if we had a decent right wing party in power we'd be shutting our doors to scum that she encourages to come here. Immigration isnt fundamentally bad, its just the TYPE of immigrants Labour encourages are bad.

We want to encourage skilled english speaking immigrants, not the dregs that Australia turns away because they know they will do nothing but leach off society for the next 60 years.

[Patrick]

[QUOTE=candor; It was in 2002 from memory and it was a Dutch guy ?Johan someone, knocked off survived by a daughter in Whangarei. Its not pfffft - it happened!
The guy was well known in Paritutu and I will get his name posted FYI and hopefully a link to media report re sus fire soon (if any still posted).[/QUOTE]

look Forward to it... don't recall ANY suspicious fires, the local papers get into everything, not government owned... if memory serves me correct, hes a nutter...

[Winston001]

Oh really?

Lets take a look at Denmark then, which has some of the strictest immigration controls in the world, because they dont want to end up like sweden!

And its very much about Comrade Clark & her party, because if we had a decent right wing party in power we'd be shutting our doors to scum that she encourages to come here. Immigration isnt fundamentally bad, its just the TYPE of immigrants Labour encourages are bad.

We want to encourage skilled english speaking immigrants, not the dregs that Australia turns away because they know they will do nothing but leach off society for the next 60 years.

“Give us your tired, your poor, your hungry, your huddled masses yearning to be free”.

This is enscribed on the Statue of Liberty. The United States is a prime example of hybrid vigour - the wellspring of human energy which arises from many different types of people mixing. There is a lesson in that.

Lets have a little compassion. We are immeasurably wealthy compared to the few African and Asian immigrants who are lucky enough to get here.

Forget about immigrants. Clark and co have much more serious issues in terms of lack of integrity. The Labour government disgusts me.

[SARGE]

POST MOVED TO OWN THREAD BY REQUESt

[oldrider]

Because the burka votes for Labour and you are white! Well is your helmet white? Try a black one! :sick: John.

[SARGE]

Because the burka votes for Labour and you are white! Well is your helmet white? Try a black one! :sick: John.


carbon fiber...white hats are for scooters

[Ixion]

"i will not serve you unless you remove your helmet."
"Fair enough. and I will not pay you unless you remove your bra"

Seriously, I am starting to get sick of this anti helmet thing. Generally I don't mind, but lately it's niggling me. Mainly because I can't see any justification at all for it.

It is claimed it is "because robbers wear helmets". Yeah? Bet they wear trousers , too, so how come everybody isnt required to remove their trousers.

I don't believe the "robbers" justification, I think its down to anti-biker prejudice and simple bloodymindedness.

[SARGE]

"i will not serve you unless you remove your helmet."
"Fair enough. and I will not pay you unless you remove your bra"




i dont think he was wearing one bro..

would a protest be in order?

You know, if one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and
they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony, they may think they're both
faggots and they won't take either of them.
And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an
organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and
walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.


what was the question ???

[Street Gerbil]

"how come SHE can do it???"

"its a religious matter sir"
[...]
can anyone explain to me how this is fair?

Sarge, sarge... I am surprised you have to ask.
Remember this moslem lady in Cali who refused to take off the chador for her driving license photo and took the matter to the supreme court (and lost thank goodness)? Remember the organization called CAIR and their lapdog ACLU? Can you imagine yourself having the organization behind you, suing the guy for not letting you pay for smokes without removing your helmet? The guy knows that moslems mean business whereas we will just buzz off ruining expensive rear tyre in the process.
Hint hint. If he would know that after such an incident he would have the living sh*t sued or beaten out of him by a bunch of mean bikers, he would have been much more understanding.

P.S. They do require removing the helmet in postshops.

[Lil_Byte]

The trick is to wear a burka over your helmet then they will have to serve you:scooter:

[padre]

The trick is to wear a burka over your helmet then they will have to serve you:scooter:

No no no! That makes you a terrorist and a robber. Tell the burka lurkers - unmask or get thee to the harem. Only Helen should be kept from light of day.

Attitude like that and servo man won't last long. He'll get bitch slapped if he's lucky. Helen wrecked this ship - let me count the ways. A bloke can't get served, but a lady whose religion says "bondage and disciplin please" gets service and a smile.

Why don't you go to BP in the attire of your choice and have a sit in. Head office is over from the radio station. High security but you can slip in the lift with someone who got a card. Then they look surprised when you arrive top story in the secret building disguised as a Gym.

Put the helmet on if you wish then let them have it. And go for some free petrol vouchers or else ay you'll do them at the human rights commy, and good luck. Because Aunty Uncley Hellcat wants all non feminist men in the pen. Anyone noticed how many prisons shes building and they all for men.

I predict 5% of us will be put away before long. Whoevers left outside probably wouldnt be man nuff to go to war if Hell suddenly wanted pwotectin'
Hang on - who ya gonna call - the gays cos they do have a hero parade, yup.

[Swoop]

“Give us your tired, your poor, your hungry, your huddled masses yearning to be free”.

This is enscribed on the Statue of Liberty.
Yeah... given to them by france.....
What a con job eh?
"Bonjour, I wish to emigrate to your great country!"
"Fuck off froggy".
"But I am tired, poor and hungry (& occasianally a huddled mass) and can enter your country freely"
"Who says that?"
"That statue over there!"



Used mobil, shell and bp over the weekend... ALL with helmet on and wallet out ready. No questions asked.

[Swoop]

who ya gonna call - the gays cos they do have a hero parade, yup.
aaah - no!
john banks fucked that little earner up for Auckland some time back...

[padre]

Better yet, return to that servo of denigration. Take your girlfriend in a burka. Pxt her get served then u try it. Then take the recording to Ian Wishart to prove discrimination. Women do just as much crime - they just get let off even when making false reports against us.

[Biff]

Paranoia - It's out to get you.

[Filterer]

If it is supposed to stop robbery then when was the last time somebody robbed a petrol station wearing a helmet?

Id imagine there are a lot more runners from cars not from bikers paying <$20 to fill their bike...

and if you have already got to the counter with your helemt on and with money in your hand then it seems stupid to require you to remove your helmet so you cant rob the place.....

I normally swipe the credit card at the pump so I dont have to deal with them and can leave the helmet on:yes:

[Filterer]

Better yet, return to that servo of denigration. Take your girlfriend in a burka. Pxt her get served then u try it. Then take the recording to Ian Wishart to prove discrimination. Women do just as much crime - they just get let off even when making false reports against us.

Speaking of Ian Wishart....anyone hear him on the radio news this AM?

[Finn]

Speaking of Ian Wishart....anyone hear him on the radio news this AM?

No but his mag is due out today. Got some dirt on a homo apparently.

What did he say Filterer?

[placidfemme]

No but his mag is due out today. Got some dirt on a homo apparently.

At the moment its just allegations... But the govt has put in an enquiry to find out the truth, should be interesting... someone here on KB mentioned a while ago about this, maybe he was right!

[The Pastor]

" i will not serve you unless you remove your helmet.."

"say what????"

"please remove your helmet.."
can anyone explain to me how this is fair?


"i will not serve you unless you remove your helmet."
"Fair enough. and I will not pay you unless you remove your bra"

Seriously, I am starting to get sick of this anti helmet thing. Generally I don't mind, but lately it's niggling me. Mainly because I can't see any justification at all for it.

It is claimed it is "because robbers wear helmets". Yeah? Bet they wear trousers , too, so how come everybody isnt required to remove their trousers.

I don't believe the "robbers" justification, I think its down to anti-biker prejudice and simple bloodymindedness.


Comon guys dont be dickheads.

Helmets stop your face from being on camera, you wouldnt complain if you went into a bank and they asked you to remove your helmet. Yet petrol stations are FAR FAR FAR more likey to be robbed.

Just take your helmet off and we can all live peacefully. (although sarge I can see why you don't want to take off your helmet - your face will scare the kids)

[Squeak the Rat]

Comon guys dont be dickheads.

Helmets stop your face from being on camera, you wouldnt complain if you went into a bank and they asked you to remove your helmet. Yet petrol stations are FAR FAR FAR more likey to be robbed.

Just take your helmet off and we can all live peacefully. (although sarge I can see why you don't want to take off your helmet - your face will scare the kids)

So will people need to shave their beards before entering a shop, and remove their sunglasses and hats also?


[Edit:] Faaark thats off topic, just realised which thread i posted in. Hahahaha, it's not helen clarke's husband that is gay.......! There thats better.

[The Pastor]

So will people need to shave their beards before entering a shop, and remove their sunglasses and hats also?



Don't be silly.

Peronally i don't take my helmet off, and I havnt been asked to. But I would if they asked.

[SARGE]

fuck man.. ya put people on the ignore list and someone goes and quotes them.. any way we can ignore the quotes ?????

[Filterer]

At the moment its just allegations... But the govt has put in an enquiry to find out the truth, should be interesting... someone here on KB mentioned a while ago about this, maybe he was right!

lol that was me, i got a spanking last time so im not gonna spread the news this time...it took a while for mainstream media to pick it up though

[Finn]

Don't be silly.

Peronally i don't take my helmet off, and I havnt been asked to. But I would if they asked.

I got asked to take my helmet off once. I did and they screwed their face up and asked me to put it back on. WTF?

[The_Dover]

I got asked to take my helmet off once. I did and they screwed their face up and asked me to put it back on. WTF?

Didn't they once ask you to remove your helmet when you already had??

[Ixion]

I think I'm gonna get a skull mask like mr Scumdogs. And wear it under the helmet. Then we'll see how they like taking the helmet off.

[Winston001]

i took the Flying Pig up to get some gas at the Mobile on Dominion & Mt. Albert today ( since i couldnt make it to Kumeu..).. mmmmm 98 octane...

anyhoo...all i needed was a pack of smokes and pay for my gas and i was outie.. i didnt bother to remove my helmet and one glove .. i walked in and there was this black ghost in a Burka and her pack of kids in the store.. full face Burka mind you...

i walked up to the counter and asked for a pack of smokes and the minimum wage drone behind the counter (quoting now ..) said..


" i will not serve you unless you remove your helmet.."

"say what????"

"please remove your helmet.."

"theres no signs anywhere that say i have to remove my helmet..."

"remove your helmet sir, or i will not serve you"

"great.. free gas!!!"

" if you drive away without paying, i will call the police.."

" but you wont serve me.."

" not unless you remove your helmet.."



at the same time .. the lovely bedsheet was paying for her rolling papers and studded condoms at the cashier next to mine ..



"how come SHE can do it???"

"its a religious matter sir"

"so's my bike fuckwit!" (i was getting annoyed at this time and wanted to seize the opportunity to stir some shit anyway..)

"dont talk to me like that sir.. i do not have to take it"

well then take my money and i'll leave"

"not until you remove your helmet"




back home we call this a Mexican Standoff.....only this Mexican came from Pakistan or India or some other shithole..


i got tired of his shit finally and tossed a $20 on the counter and fucked off...leaving a bit of smoke off the rear tire on the way out..

can anyone explain to me how this is fair?

Damned good post - shame to waste on this thread. Why don't you repost as a new topic Sarge.

[SARGE]

Damned good post - shame to waste on this thread. Why don't you repost as a new topic Sarge.

im happy for a mod to move it ...

[padre]

Guyon Espiner has written a 2 page fan letter to hell in latest Nth and Sth Mag. In a nutshell he says (to quote)...
"For all her arrogance and misdeeds, Clark leaves a majority of voters feeling they can get on with their lives because a diligent, intelligent, tough and even ruthless woman is running the country "

I wouldn't trust her to boil me an egg.

[Finn]

Guyon Espiner has written a 2 page fan letter to hell in latest Nth and Sth Mag. In a nutshell he says (to quote)...
"For all her arrogance and misdeeds, Clark leaves a majority of voters feeling they can get on with their lives because a diligent, intelligent, tough and even ruthless woman is running the country "

I wouldn't trust her to boil me an egg.

Guyon Espiner likes sausage too.