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Toast
13th September 2006, 14:44
Hi all.

After a couple of years riding around without earplugs, I realised that a very small ringing was noticeable when I was in a quiet place. Not wanting to be a deaf old bastard some day, I decided to get some plugs.

I tried a few different kinds of disposables, which were decent, although a bit hard to fit at times, and the attenuation of engine and bike noise tended to be higher than that of wind noise. Some of them were very quiet overall though, which was great for SH1 hauls.

I also tried Alpine plugs, after reading many great reviews. I like these for a long time, as they did cancel out much of the wind noise, but still let me hear the engine and tyre noises well. They also let me hear other traffic pretty well, which is important to some, but I don’t really give a toss. The problem was that the were tricky to fit right (too far in even, and they seemed to lose their attenuation qualities), and were prone to slip during a ride, which was a real pain in the arse, especially when it was only in one ear.

Finally, I decided to stump up the big bucks and get some custom moulded ones, so I contacted this dude called ‘Arno’ from Elacin NZ (www.elacin.co.nz). He came to Auckland (from Papamoa or something I think), took a mould of my ear cavity, and a few weeks later I had some ‘Biopact’ plugs with an MM01 filter.

How are they? In short: awesome!

That might sound a bit over enthusiastic for something as un-sexy as earplugs, but it really has made a huge difference to the enjoyment of my time on the bike, whether I’m going hard or cruising on the highway.

They are very quick and simple to fit once you know how (5 seconds or less each side, with no chance of incorrect fitting), they are very unlikely to fall out while riding (haven’t done so yet in one month of use) and there is never any pain or hassle involved.

I can actually get forward on the bike (sports bike with lowish clipons, so it’s how I need to be to ride it properly, not just ‘cos I’m a GP wannabe), and the extra wind noise from the screen is so minimal as not to matter. With other plugs, I’d find myself sitting more upright and further back to avoid the wind noise, which is not a good position to ride this kind of bike. I didn’t think when I bought them that a benefit would be me actually riding better, more often. Long trips are much more bearable too.

They give you a choice of 4 filters, being: ML01 (most quiet), MM02 (2nd most), MM22 (3rd), MM12 (least attenuation). They are actually quite similar at higher frequencies, but offer vastly different attenuation for lower frequencies.

Apparently bike cops in Europe use the MM02, but I went for the extra quiet ML01, ‘cos my TwoBros full system is bloody loud to the point of pissing me off (I’m finally growing up I guess).

I’m stoked with the choice, now everything is just perfect.

At $230, they aren't cheap, but I'm happy enough with them that I consider it a good deal.

I’m told they will last me 5+ years if looked after.

Recommended to all who are sick of damaging levels of noise, and the sometimes pain in the arse procedure of fitting earplugs.

Warr
13th September 2006, 14:56
May have read your post too quick... but what do they cost ?? .... And cant find that web site either :(

Seemed to have located site http://www.elacin.co.nz/

skelstar
13th September 2006, 14:58
Cost Toast?

Warr
13th September 2006, 15:04
My previous dealings with an ear specalist nearly cost over $200 when they gave me the final bill. I handed the custom made plugs back and kept my money.
The ear plugs I use now are the ones like from NZ Safely called "Spark-plugs" I think. Roll them tight, lick then end and insert.
Custom ones may work out more reliable to seal tho

sAsLEX
13th September 2006, 15:10
A member on here also does them Kiwi is his name
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=36
and his site
http://www.desmodromics.co.nz/index.htm

cowpoos
13th September 2006, 15:13
I brought a shoei xr1000 helmet with a whisper kit....quiet as fuck....was un nerving when I first rode with the thing on!! so don't use ear plugs no more!

Toast
13th September 2006, 15:26
May have read your post too quick... but what do they cost ?? .... And cant find that web site either :(

Seemed to have located site http://www.elacin.co.nz/

Sorry mate, forgot that part...original post edited. $230.

Toast
13th September 2006, 15:28
I brought a shoei xr1000 helmet with a whisper kit....quiet as fuck....was un nerving when I first rode with the thing on!! so don't use ear plugs no more!

That's the next part of my plan. A Shoei with whisper kit, combined with these plugs will mean ZERO wind noise, and not too much exhaust noise from my bike (stock exhausts wouldn't be so bad).

Finn
13th September 2006, 16:24
After a couple of years riding around without earplugs, I realised that a very small ringing was noticeable when I was in a quiet place.


I've noticed that too except in my case it's voices... "Must Kill Helen Clark..." etc, etc.

Anyway, I've tried all the ear plugs and I just don't like them and now that I've got a noisy pipe on the MV I'm going to invest in some of these. A KBer (desmotromics) has them so I'll be getting them there.

Over and out.

Finn
13th September 2006, 16:25
What is a wisper kit?

The_Dover
13th September 2006, 16:28
What is a wisper kit?

it makes you talk really quietly

The_Dover
13th September 2006, 16:30
I brought a shoei xr1000 helmet with a whisper kit....quiet as fuck....was un nerving when I first rode with the thing on!! so don't use ear plugs no more!

and you must be half fucking deaf already cos I think my shoei is a noisy piece of shit. even when I tried it with your whisper kit

texmo
13th September 2006, 16:48
Sorry mate, forgot that part...original post edited. $230.

$230 fucking hell they worth it? i would rather have a whipser kit for $80..

sAsLEX
13th September 2006, 16:48
I've noticed that too except in my case it's voices... "Must Kill Helen Clark..." etc, etc.

Anyway, I've tried all the ear plugs and I just don't like them and now that I've got a noisy pipe on the MV I'm going to invest in some of these. A KBer (desmotromics) has them so I'll be getting them there.

Over and out.

see my post up a little

Toast
13th September 2006, 16:51
A member on here also does them Kiwi is his name
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=36
and his site
http://www.desmodromics.co.nz/index.htm

Never realised a KB'r made these...looks like they have similar attenuation to my ones, maybe a bit higher...so benefits should be similar.

Know how much he charges?

sAsLEX
13th September 2006, 17:01
Never realised a KB'r made these...looks like they have similar attenuation to my ones, maybe a bit higher...so benefits should be similar.

Know how much he charges?

Custom made earplugs

Appointment necessary



Standard

Colour: rose-transparent
permanently elastic silicone, addition curing, final hardness 60 Shore A


Order No. : 06.02.01.01 Price : NZ$ 60.00



Soft, coloured

Colour: red or blue
floatable, long term elastic silicone addition curing, final hardness 35 Shore A


Order No. : 06.02.01.02 Price : NZ$ 67.00

The advantages of our custom-made ear protection are:

* Personal, tailor made ear protection.
* Custom made to the exact contours of each ear to give a perfect fit and consistent noise attenuation.
* Long lasting, eliminates the need for constant replacement of disposable items.
* Comfortable, lightweight, hygienic.
* Reduce the noise up to 36 dB
* Quick to fit and easy to clean


from the site

Warr
13th September 2006, 17:51
Thanks sAsLEX,
When I turned down the >$200 set which had an attenuator they said they could do them for $100 with no attenuator.
But the prices off that site are even more competive. May need to get in contact with him.....

sAsLEX
13th September 2006, 17:59
Thanks sAsLEX,
When I turned down the >$200 set which had an attenuator they said they could do them for $100 with no attenuator.
But the prices off that site are even more competive. May need to get in contact with him.....

Keep us updated anyone that does contact Kiwi as he hasnt been on the site in a while, and would be interesting to see if those prices still stand

cowpoos
13th September 2006, 18:46
That's the next part of my plan. A Shoei with whisper kit, combined with these plugs will mean ZERO wind noise, and not too much exhaust noise from my bike (stock exhausts wouldn't be so bad).

seriously bro....you don't need ear plugs at all!!!


and you must be half fucking deaf already cos I think my shoei is a noisy piece of shit. even when I tried it with your whisper kit

I think I remeber big dave having the same problem with his....might have something to do with the screen height on your bike and your height.....coz your not a short arse...neither is bigdave

yungatart
13th September 2006, 18:50
The audiologist at our local hospital fitted hXc with some as he already has a substantial loss of hearing in one ear. They are made in Oz, take about two weeks from fitting to arrive and cost about $80 from memory. Well worth it to protect your hearing, I reckon. We also invested in musicians plugs for him as well, they were about $250

Lou Girardin
13th September 2006, 20:54
With a Schuberth and earplugs, you won't even hear the voices in your head.

stevio43
23rd September 2006, 00:06
work paid for my custom fitted earplugs,,,around $240.00,,,very good ,on the rally sites,,