Chinese bucket bikes?

[gav]

Some of these Chinese bikes are starting to get almost look quite good. Check this one http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-69578335.htm
Obviously styled on a CBR600RR, actually doesnt look to bad apart from the swingarm, which looks abit dodgy. Make a cool bucket, shame as these people bringing them in can't get them vinned, so can't ride on the road. Wonder how they go compared to a FXR150?

[Sketchy_Racer]

125 chinese four stroke = Slow as hell.

Suspension would be like two rusty bed springs for sure.

But its all about the image peoples!

In order to be successful, One must apear successful at all times!

[andrea]

lol cute lil bike hmmm

[madkeenandy]

wouldn't be as fast as the FXR, why? because this one is only air cooled, etc and presumedly single cam , 2 valve. It is probabally a pitbike motor in a flash looking frame.

[Coyote]

Looks pretty sweet though

[SwanTiger]

Nice looking bike.

The ultimate bucket would have to be the Hyosung GT 125, a bit heavy, but a nice little 125 cc V-Twin engine that will pull to 110 kmp/h with stock gearing will do fine on a small track such as Mount Wellington. Change the gearng to have the bike top out at 70 kmp/h - would pull more than a school boy!

Specifications

14.21 HP of Power
9.70 Nm of Torque
150 Kg approximate weight, could be reduced by 20 - 30 KG easily.
5 Speed Gear box
Front and Rear Disc Brakes, or you could put twin discs on the front easily as there are already mounts.
150 Rear and 110 Front tyres

Buy a Hyosung today!

[07fatboy]

mucking about on the web come across an artical that porshe has signed a deal with chinese manufacture to produce 650 single motorcycle engines so wont be long there be some cheap rockets going around without the porsche brand name on it...nice bike by the b.t.w

[onearmedbandit]

On that bikes high-tech next generation instrument assembly distance travelled shows 21km, as the owner states, yet the trip meter shows, if I'm not mistaken, 120km. Whats up with that...

[Ivan]

125 chinese four stroke = Slow as hell.

Suspension would be like two rusty bed springs for sure.

But its all about the image peoples!

In order to be successful, One must apear successful at all times!

No they wont be the FXR aint the fastest bucket around the CBR is way cooler and that made in Thailand same as China both just getting into making bikes and its suspension aint a set of soggy rust they actually alot better than the FXR and handles better and goes better and sounds better

[SuperDave]

Specifications
14.21 HP of Power
9.70 Nm of Torque
150 Kg approximate weight, could be reduced by 20 - 30 KG easily.


Holy shit, a 125 weighing in at 150kgs!?

The instrument cluster on on that bike looks uber shit, sorta like those you find on oldschool stationary cycle machines. Can't say the rest of the bike looks very good either, anything over a short glance and the poor quality just seems to show through even in a photograph.

[Sketchy_Racer]

No they wont be the FXR aint the fastest bucket around the CBR is way cooler and that made in Thailand same as China both just getting into making bikes and its suspension aint a set of soggy rust they actually alot better than the FXR and handles better and goes better and sounds better

I know my FXR aint the fastest.

as far as i know, Tailand isn't China Numbnutz

The CBR Goes and sounds better because of the after market Full titanium system and carbon can. But its a honda, so it's gay. A bit like you

I'm sorry but you're not qualified to make a Statement about handling.

Leave that to the people who ride fast. Like nathan or jay.

[Sketchy_Racer]

Nice looking bike.

The ultimate bucket would have to be the Hyosung GT 125, a bit heavy, but a nice little 125 cc V-Twin engine that will pull to 110 kmp/h with stock gearing will do fine on a small track such as Mount Wellington. Change the gearng to have the bike top out at 70 kmp/h - would pull more than a school boy!

Specifications

14.21 HP of Power - Yeah right
9.70 Nm of Torque
150 Kg approximate weight, could be reduced by 20 - 30 KG easily. - Way to heavy
5 Speed Gear box - Meh
Front and Rear Disc Brakes, or you could put twin discs on the front easily as there are already mounts. - Buckets don't need twin disk. Just more weight

150 Rear and 110 Front tyres - Way waaaayyy to big. wont get enough heat in the tyre.


Don't Buy a Hyosung today!
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[madkeenandy]

hahahahaha nice nice nice, the only thing worse than a chinease made motorcycle is one from Korea.

[SwanTiger]

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If you say so 'Wheelie King'

[Sketchy_Racer]

Yeah.

They aint really the ideal bucket racer.

Oh. I was taken out of 'wheelie king'. I am only a simpleton 'Streetstock racer' now

[Ivan]

I know my FXR aint the fastest.

as far as i know, Tailand isn't China Numbnutz

The CBR Goes and sounds better because of the after market Full titanium system and carbon can. But its a honda, so it's gay. A bit like you

I'm sorry but you're not qualified to make a Statement about handling.

Leave that to the people who ride fast. Like nathan or jay.




Yes I know Thailand aint China but they both just getting into making bikes and the quality is the same, And as for not qualifying you dont need to be ultra fast to feel if the bike handles better
I have rode both the CBR and THE FXR and the CBR was smoother in the corners and wanted to take the corner more than your FXR when I rode that. So dont go talking to me about what I dont know
and the whole gay bit is a bit wrong.......................
and it went alot better than yours standered as well cause I have rode it in all 3 stages standered semi modded and the final mod which is exhaust and carb and a after market CDI cause the original pegged out
So shot down

[Sketchy_Racer]

Yes I know Thailand aint China but they both just getting into making bikes and the quality is the same

Tailand have been making very good motorcycles for quite a while now. Chinese bikes are shit. I have not seen a good quality chinese bike yet. If you find one, let me know.

And as for not qualifying you dont need to be ultra fast to feel if the bike handles better

You never know how well a bike handles untill you are pushing the limits of is suspension and setup. The CBR may 'feel' better. But you dont know. I dont know either. But personally I didn't like the feel of the CBR. and i am also not qualified to make a desision as to which is best.

I have rode both the CBR and THE FXR and the CBR was smoother in the corners and wanted to take the corner more than your FXR when I rode that. So dont go talking to me about what I dont know

Im sorry, I forgot you were perfect

and the whole gay bit is a bit wrong.......................

Fags cant call other faggots Fags.

and it went alot better than yours standered as well cause I have rode it in all 3 stages standered semi modded and the final mod which is exhaust and carb and a after market CDI cause the original pegged out

I didn't have my FXR around when the CBR was bog stock. It only came around when the CBR had the pipe. The FXR wasted it then. By heaps down the sraights. So stop talking shit.
Its only now that the CBR has got quick, Due to CDI and carb.

So shot down

HAHAHA I USED TO SAY THAT. WHEN I WAS 10. Grow up.

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[kickingzebra]

Teehee hee, Spastic kiddie fight!

I reckon that bike is jolly well spiffing!!

Be fun just to hack around on, thats for sure!

[Korea]

hahahahaha nice nice nice, the only thing worse than a chinease made motorcycle is one from Korea.

Yeah, don't buy a bike off me - it'll have been thrashed. :yes:

But seriously, Hyosung's finish is not so flash but basically you get a lot of bike for not much money. At this stage it seems like:
Japan - high quality / high price
China - low quality / low price
Korea - reasonable quality / reasonable price

Regarding the stats for the 125: sounds about right but yeah, they're quite heavy and I don't fancy they'd be short-corner weapons.

...and I'm not keen to ride one of those pocket-bikes on the road - deadly enough when cages can actually see you (sic)

[Ivan]

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Who said I was calling you a fag i said the wholegaything wrong not saying youwere a fag is that a raw nerve aye?

[Expert]

swantiger?!!? have you got shares in hyosung which you can't off-load? I test rode one of those comets? 650? the other weekend for a laugh.... what a piece of crap, horrible gearbox, gammy suspension, no power and overweight, not to mention shit and you look like a tool riding on one
i couldn't stop laughing it was so bad, an SV650 is infinately better! and no they are NOT made in the same factory as the suzuki which i have heard mentioned.
Why are they so exspensive? They are naff.

[Hillbilly]

hahahahaha nice nice nice, the only thing worse than a chinease made motorcycle is one from Korea.

tell that to Fischer Industries (OK it's not a bucket):

[ajturbo]

Holy shit, a 125 weighing in at 150kgs!?

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you haven't tried lifting mine up... ,
i haven't dropped it yet,.... i'm too scared tooo, i'm sure i would have to ask someone to help pick it up!!!:shit:

[ajturbo]

I know my FXR aint the fastest.

as far as i know, Tailand isn't China Numbnutz

The CBR Goes and sounds better because of the after market Full titanium system and carbon can. But its a honda, so it's gay. A bit like you

I'm sorry but you're not qualified to make a Statement about handling.

Leave that to the people who ride fast. Like nathan or jay.

hey ya tosser.. you forgot to put my name in there!!!....
ya girly... you coming down yet to the BOB????

[Sketchy_Racer]

Your bike aint that heavy AJ. Or im just really strong!!.

And no cant make it to the BOB. it clashes with Round 6 Vic series. which is more important to me.

[Buddha#81]

Your bike aint that heavy AJ. Or im just really strong!!.

And no cant make it to the BOB. it clashes with Round 6 Vic series. which is more important to me.

How can that be, just another North Islander too scared to get there arse kicked.

[Sketchy_Racer]

I assure you I am not afraid of kicking your arse.

But I have put alot of effort into the Vic series an i want to get into second place in points. to do that i must finish second for the next two rounds!

So when myself and the buckets organiser hold a north Island BOB you will becoming right?

[Tim 39]

Yea these thing look pretty cool, I wouldnt wana ride one tho (however thats probably what someone thought when they saw the RG150, and they make a good racebike! and also go surprisingly fast!!!)

[Ivan]

Yea these thing look pretty cool, I wouldnt wana ride one tho (however thats probably what someone thought when they saw the RG150, and they make a good racebike! and also go surprisingly fast!!!)

Yeah kinda like the KR you look at it and say far i wouldnt ride that but they are ok, You look at theRG150 and see it and are like its ok.

The Hyosung are quite a good bike as well I wouldnt mind one for streetstock but hey,

Im surprised none of these asain companys aint brought out a 125GP bike would be a bit of a laugh

[Tim 39]

Yeah I think I'll stick with my RS125 as far as the GP thing goes but it goes to show that despite the looks and the price, some of these bikes are a lot better than one would think

[hXc]

tell that to Fischer Industries (OK it's not a bucket):
Okay. I will, seeing as they're American:yes:

[Sketchy_Racer]

The Hyosung are quite a good bike as well I wouldnt mind one for streetstock but hey

HAHA Are you for real? A hyobag? racing?

Buhahaha muppet

[Aiolos]

Okay. I will, seeing as they're American:yes:


But they use a hyosung engine.

[Ivan]

Yeah I think I'll stick with my RS125 as far as the GP thing goes but it goes to show that despite the looks and the price, some of these bikes are a lot better than one would think

Yeah so have you got the 95 rs?
i got the 96 just about to do my heatruns on it bloody love it, I hear the 95 is quite a good bike just something was mentto be wrong with front suspension but it cant be to bad took Adam Chambers to win the Vic Series and 4th in the nats

[Postie]

Nice looking bike.

The ultimate bucket would have to be the Hyosung GT 125, a bit heavy, but a nice little 125 cc V-Twin engine that will pull to 110 kmp/h with stock gearing will do fine on a small track such as Mount Wellington. Change the gearng to have the bike top out at 70 kmp/h - would pull more than a school boy!

Specifications

14.21 HP of Power
9.70 Nm of Torque


Buy a Hyosung today!


My flymo has more power then that, and its broken

[Maido]

In the 60's didn't everyone rubbish the japanese bikes in the same manor as we are now flaming the chinese??
They are a pretty big economy mow, give them a few years and see what happens.

just a thought.

[Tim 39]

Yeah so have you got the 95 rs?


Yea I haven't had it long, and I love it too! I have found the front suspension good, but don't know much about this sorta thing

[Ivan]

Yea I haven't had it long, and I love it too! I have found the front suspension good, but don't know much about this sorta thing

Yeah youll have a ball racing it as well

[avgas]

Gimme any Chinese bike, a shed, and about 1 week to fix everything that people disapprove about them. While the build quality isnt the greatest, its not impossible to have it all perfected with a bit of elbow grease. Shit, every bike i have every owned has taken at least 100-200 hours of my time to fix imperfections.
I think some people just find it too easy to mock other things they don't understand.
You get what you pay for, if you cant afford to spend the cash, you have to afford to spend the time. This isnt "Pimp-my-Ride".....your hands will get dirty.

[Blackflagged]

Thailand makes way better bikes at present.
The bike at the start of this thead,would probably,need frame welding & gearbox repair,between races.
#Also Cbr150 is watercooled an Fxr150 is not.
Fxr is rated as having more power,but cbr may have similar and better potential,not alot of them here .

[Cleve]

Bikes made in Thailand are not bikes made BY Thailand. Arent they just a Japanese factory IN Thailand?!
As someone said, the Chinese will get better. When I was a kid people used to say Jap Crap. Dont really hear that now regarding Japanese quality.

[granma2]

Nice looking bike.

The ultimate bucket would have to be the Hyosung GT 125, a bit heavy, but a nice little 125 cc V-Twin engine that will pull to 110 kmp/h with stock gearing will do fine on a small track such as Mount Wellington. Change the gearng to have the bike top out at 70 kmp/h - would pull more than a school boy!

Specifications

14.21 HP of Power
9.70 Nm of Torque
150 Kg approximate weight, could be reduced by 20 - 30 KG easily.
5 Speed Gear box
Front and Rear Disc Brakes, or you could put twin discs on the front easily as there are already mounts.
150 Rear and 110 Front tyres

Buy a Hyosung today!

Hey guys really, we need to look at other avenues for bucket racer motors, as the older bikes are getting harder and harder to get. Then, if you need parts, it gets worse.
Is the Hyosung motor reliable? If so can it be put it into an another bike frame? Maybe an RS frame?
Everything I have read about these bikes seems to point to the fact that perfomance of the motorbike is good. The issue is usually with the components that make up the rest of the bike. They dont last very long.

Lifan also have a good road bike that has a 125 V-twin motor. Honda bought out a CB125T in 2001, built in China. I know where in China they were made. I have done heaps of searching but cant find one of these bikes anywhere.
Anybody got any ideas? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

[Ivan]

Yip thats exactly what Bert was going to do was put a Lifan 150 V Twin in his FXR 150 chassis would have been perfect

[SwanTiger]

Everything I have read about these bikes seems to point to the fact that perfomance of the motorbike is good. The issue is usually with the components that make up the rest of the bike. They dont last very long.
It's just a matter of servicing them properly (just doing what needs doing, nothing fancy) and making modifications that have already been documented by other owners on many of the Hyosung forums emerging through the Internet.


Air filter
Spark plugs
Re-jet
Exhuast
Gearing
Fork Oil/Spring
CDI


Just to name a few quick and simple modifications that have been well documented.

[Blackflagged]

Hmm see next quote.

[Blackflagged]

Bikes made in Thailand are not bikes made BY Thailand. Arent they just a Japanese factory IN Thailand?!
As someone said, the Chinese will get better. When I was a kid people used to say Jap Crap. Dont really hear that now regarding Japanese quality.
Not quite,what i said.
Yes the honda`s and Suzuki`s they make,are Japanese factories.
And yes China, one day will,be a huge Quality ,M/cycle manufacturer.But if i was getting,a reproduction rear guard for my 60`s japanese bike "at present"i`d personally get one "made in" Thailand, over a chinese one(gn chrome is shit).you my see it differently,Good On Ya!

[Tim 39]

At the moment I wouldnt touch any motorbike made in China. I bought a minimoto as a pit bike etc, but it didnt last long enough for that. It always had problems with it, it was missing engine mounts because they didnt line up! and constantly leaked gas etc thats how roughly made it was. Im sure in a few years they'l be ok but at the moment theyre crap

[Ivan]

Well I have workedon a few chinese bikes and find them actually quite good,

You buy a cheap bike and expect the bike to be mint it aint gonna happen.
Make sure you keep up frequent maintenance and youl be sweet I have worked on Gizmos etc all quite good

[TygerTung]

I think the japanese bikes of the 60's were a lot better than the chinease bikes of today.

The japanese bikes of the 60's were only four manufacturers, and they designed their own bikes, and had fast race bikes.

The chinese bikes these days have no brand are made by a million different manufacturers and they copy the designs. They don't race them either, and people wonder why people don't take them seriously.

The only recognisable manufacturer out of china is lifan, and I'm sure they'll get much better.

[granma2]

The only recognisable manufacturer out of china is lifan, and I'm sure they'll get much better.

Funny you should say that.
After speaking with a couple of importers of quality Pitbikes, (they go to the factory and select parts, motors etc)they told me that all the bottom ends of the motors come out of the Lifan factory and the rest of the bike is made in other factories.
Thats why todays Pitbikes have got good motors, but
the cheaper ones dont have such good quality frame, wheel etc components and are put together real fast.Hense the mistakes.They dont fair well with an experienced rider thrashing them. Great for kids to learn on though.
We have had chinese pocketbikes and a Pitbike and we know to pull the cheapie ones apart and rebuild em.
Haven't any problem with the more expensive ones though.
We had thrashed the Pitty as a minimotard and on the dirt and it never missed a beat.