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dawnrazor
14th September 2006, 13:07
........or are they.....well lets see, they are two year old SIDIs, worn everyday more or less for my commute back and forth from work only, I never tuck jeans/leathers into them or use them for anything but their intended designed use.

When they were a year + old (and out of warranty) one of the zips broke.
I dropped them back to the shop I got them from (who shall remain nameless) and they returned them to the suppliers who fixed them and said "that if they broke again, to send them back for repair..no problem".

Skip forward to a year from then and zip NO.2 fails...so I send them back again, and I even say I will pay for any factory repairs required.

Different story now, "they are not interested in pursuing the matter any further" and its now up to me to get them fixed.

So I"m fine with that, I wouldn't have returned them in the first place if they had not said to.

Then I thought what would have happened if I had crashed and the zips had failed , leaving my feet exposed, is it fair to say just because they are 2 years old they are now useless and redundant (any new repairs not withstanding).

These are a $500 pair of boots to replace, I was hoping to get more life out of them then this...is that unreasonable?

The thing is I really like the boots in every other aspect and would have bought another pair.....but now, forget about it, its any other boots apart from SIDI in the future, and the new alpinestars look bloody good.

Is this just another example of our throw away culture???

steved
14th September 2006, 13:25
Does this sort of argument (using Fair Trading Act/Consumer Guarantees Act) revolve around whether two years is a reasonable time for this product to last?

Wasp
14th September 2006, 13:26
Thats interesting, I bought a pair of SIDIs yesterday....

Blackbird
14th September 2006, 13:37
Have had SIDI lorica waterproof boots for 3 or 4 years now and they're as good as new despite being generally abused.

dawnrazor
14th September 2006, 14:14
Have had SIDI lorica waterproof boots for 3 or 4 years now and they're as good as new despite being generally abused.

One of the main reasons I bought them originally was they tested very well in the long term product tests in the bike press, and as I said for the most part they were a good buy, let down by sub standard components.

I would have expected to get 3-4 years worth of use out of them myself depending on their use but I reckon to fail so fundamentally is inexcusable, the more I think about the chances of them being pulled off by a average speed spill and leaving my feet completely exposed the more pissed off I get.

The_Dover
14th September 2006, 14:17
you should see how fucked mine are and they are only a year old.

FilthyLuka
14th September 2006, 14:38
#cough# military boots #cough#

I got mine from kiwi disposals, british assault boots. Ive had them for 6 months and there holding up sweet. The soles are a bit odd though, the kinda mould to your feet and it feels like your wearing a large pair of (sturdy, steel capped) socks. Very comfortable though...

Denis

The Pastor
14th September 2006, 16:50
I read your first post, and agree with you that its broken and it should be fixed, lifetime seems about right (boots get a kicking for there life)

But then I read the bottom bit. And two words came to mind. Saftey noob. Ive crashed off road enough times to know that my feet are the last thing that get hurt, Not being a dick on the road I havnted had the experiance for tarseal but I think as long as the boot/shoe stays on your feet will be fine. Stop wasting 500 bucks on being a poser.

Scouse
14th September 2006, 17:10
Hey Renagade have you studyed Dale Carnigie

oldrider
14th September 2006, 17:26
I got a pair of SIDI's earlier this year (maybe 5 months) and they are as tight as, I was hoping they would loosen up after they got wet but no!
They are as tight as hell in the icy weather too, can only wear thin, thin socks.
Otherwise they have been satisfactory so far. here's hoping! :mellow: John.

sAsLEX
14th September 2006, 17:33
you should see how fucked mine are and they are only a year old.

Most people dont put three bikes through being written off in a year

imdying
14th September 2006, 17:52
But then I read the bottom bit. And two words came to mind. Saftey noob. Ive crashed off road enough times to know that my feet are the last thing that get hurt, Not being a dick on the road I havnted had the experiance for tarseal but I think as long as the boot/shoe stays on your feet will be fine. Stop wasting 500 bucks on being a poser.Crash a bit on the road, or talk to people who have... ankles have a habit of going snap, good boots are not pose at all.

SPman
14th September 2006, 18:04
On my 3rd pair of Sidis. Normally after a year or so, I break the top off the LH zip, but its still usable.

Good boots ARE worth it - I reckon my foot would have been totally rooted after my last little "moment", instead of just badly sprained and swollen.

The Pastor
14th September 2006, 18:17
Crash a bit on the road, or talk to people who have... ankles have a habit of going snap, good boots are not pose at all.

i'll see it when I belive it, I havnt spoken to someone who's crashed with wearing cheap boots (ones that cover the ankle for obvious reasons)

When I get my next bike and take it to the track i'll crash and wear my cheap boots and we will see.....

sunhuntin
14th September 2006, 18:26
renegade...i got hit by a car last year, and my left ankle would have been shattered but for my boots...not sidis, but leather, steel cap cowboy boots. if id been in sneakers, that ankle would have been stuffed as much as my knees are.

i wear these boots when im going out of town...rather look like a "poser" than walk with a limp and cane the rest of my life.

Lou Girardin
14th September 2006, 18:30
Get some decent Stylmartins, they're comfy, durable and I'm sure you know where to buy them.

TLDV8
14th September 2006, 18:49
Unfortunately being prepared to pay for safety does not guarantee quality products these days.
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The touring style of boot with stitched/bonded soles are probably more robust than a race type but any decent boot that goes above the ankle is better than nothing...Carbon fibre is fairly tough but still got the treatment,better it than my ankle.

My only pair of SIDI's were bought in 1978...28 years later.........

SuperDave
14th September 2006, 18:54
I got a pair of SIDI's earlier this year (maybe 5 months) and they are as tight as, I was hoping they would loosen up after they got wet but no!


Simple fix to that, don't buy boots that are a size too small.

I have a pair of Sidi Vetebras and I have not complaints with them. Had them for almost 2 years now and been through one low speed bin as well as a lot of normal walking in them - appear to be holding up fine apart from some general leather scuffing on the toe region.

If the boots are good in all other respects why not go get a high quality zippers put in them? Also, for a $500 pair of boots do they not have a velcro overlap that covers over the zipper?

sAsLEX
14th September 2006, 18:59
My sidis are about ~3 years old now, been wearing them to uni every day for the last year and the soles have worn a little and the gear change patch is shiny

crazybigal
14th September 2006, 19:09
id say in terms of a consumer product 2 years is prob the life of the product. we may not like it but thats the way it is! shop around, some products have lifetime waranty on them, like some mtb bike frames.
Can you not find a shoe repair place to put a new zip in?


........or are they.....well lets see, they are two year old SIDIs, worn everyday more or less for my commute back and forth from work only, I never tuck jeans/leathers into them or use them for anything but their intended designed use.

When they were a year + old (and out of warranty) one of the zips broke.
I dropped them back to the shop I got them from (who shall remain nameless) and they returned them to the suppliers who fixed them and said "that if they broke again, to send them back for repair..no problem".

Skip forward to a year from then and zip NO.2 fails...so I send them back again, and I even say I will pay for any factory repairs required.

Different story now, "they are not interested in pursuing the matter any further" and its now up to me to get them fixed.

So I"m fine with that, I wouldn't have returned them in the first place if they had not said to.

Then I thought what would have happened if I had crashed and the zips had failed , leaving my feet exposed, is it fair to say just because they are 2 years old they are now useless and redundant (any new repairs not withstanding).

These are a $500 pair of boots to replace, I was hoping to get more life out of them then this...is that unreasonable?

The thing is I really like the boots in every other aspect and would have bought another pair.....but now, forget about it, its any other boots apart from SIDI in the future, and the new alpinestars look bloody good.

Is this just another example of our throw away culture???

imdying
14th September 2006, 19:12
i'll see it when I belive it, I havnt spoken to someone who's crashed with wearing cheap boots (ones that cover the ankle for obvious reasons)Life is going to treat you rather badly if the only learning that you're able to do is from direct personal experience.

One of the reasons professional racers come out of crashes so well is the protection they wear, and I doubt you'd find them wearing anything but top of the line foot protection.

sAsLEX
14th September 2006, 19:17
One of the reasons professional racers come out of crashes so well is the protection they wear, and I doubt you'd find them wearing anything but top of the line foot protection.

From his younger days but here is Rossi in sneakers!

<img src=http://valentinorossi.fc2web.com/img/page1.jpg>

dawnrazor
14th September 2006, 20:14
I read your first post, and agree with you that its broken and it should be fixed, lifetime seems about right (boots get a kicking for there life)

But then I read the bottom bit. And two words came to mind. Saftey noob. Ive crashed off road enough times to know that my feet are the last thing that get hurt, Not being a dick on the road I havnted had the experiance for tarseal but I think as long as the boot/shoe stays on your feet will be fine. Stop wasting 500 bucks on being a poser.

MAN, YOU ARE A MISGUIDED FOOL, YOUR CONSISTENT IGNORANCE HIGHLIGHTS YOUR STUPIDITY AND YOUR VACUOUS COMMENTS LACK EVEN THE SLIGHTEST REDEEMING QUALITY.....


i'll see it when I belive it, I havnt spoken to someone who's crashed with wearing cheap boots (ones that cover the ankle for obvious reasons)

When I get my next bike and take it to the track i'll crash and wear my cheap boots and we will see.....

....THE LOBOTOMY IS TAKING WELL I SEE


Get some decent Stylmartins, they're comfy, durable and I'm sure you know where to buy them.

NOW LOU YOU KNOW YOU'LL BE MY FIRST STOP, HOWEVER I'M GETTING NEW ZIPS FITTED BY MY LOCAL COBBLER. HOPEFULLY THEY WILL LAST FOR ANOTHER WHILE AFTER THAT, IF THAT DOESN'T WORK THEN I'LL SEE YA WITH CLEAN SOCKS ON!!!!!!!!!

Timber020
14th September 2006, 20:31
Its a crock that you pay $500 for boots that dont last 2 years. My work boots cost $140, they get THRASHED. Really thrashed. I put em on at 730 in the morning and wont take them off until its bed time, I wear them in the wet, I climb in them, ride my bike and generally give them a good work out 7 days a week. If they dont give me 18 months before they are stuffed I feel ripped.
Ive said this before but for Sidi to hit us for that much money for boots that generally dont work to hard for long enough, is a joke. Ive had the soles peel off after 3 months. This is BS. why do we keep buying this junk?

imdying
14th September 2006, 20:45
And it's always the poxy zips that go... just like leather jackets :/

Lou Girardin
14th September 2006, 20:49
AFTER THAT, IF THAT DOESN'T WORK THEN I'LL SEE YA WITH CLEAN SOCKS ON!!!!!!!!!

Don't change just for me, I like you as you are.:sick:

dawnrazor
14th September 2006, 21:02
Don't change just for me, I like you as you are.:sick:


You've been drinking haven't ya?........

The Pastor
14th September 2006, 22:31
Its a crock that you pay $500 for boots that dont last 2 years. My work boots cost $140, they get THRASHED. Really thrashed. I put em on at 730 in the morning and wont take them off until its bed time, I wear them in the wet, I climb in them, ride my bike and generally give them a good work out 7 days a week. If they dont give me 18 months before they are stuffed I feel ripped.
Ive said this before but for Sidi to hit us for that much money for boots that generally dont work to hard for long enough, is a joke. Ive had the soles peel off after 3 months. This is BS. why do we keep buying this junk?

Which is excatly my point, well said.

imdying
15th September 2006, 08:12
Which is excatly my point, well said.That's nothing like what you said. You implied that they didn't provide the protection that should be afforded by their price tag.

I'm guessing you dropped out of school? I mean, there must be some reason that you're so incredibly bad at articulating yourself.

McJim
15th September 2006, 08:28
It's all branding and merchandising really - Sidi are big in the cycling world but you can get shoes just as light and just as rigid as Sidi for half the price. Same is true in terms of motorbike kit.

I had a crash in a pair of sub $200 boots from Motomail. Toe box is now cracked and would offer no protection in the future but my foot is fine - these boots are no longer used but I'll keep them to show my sons why they should wear good boots on bikes at all times.

Sounds like the build quality is not up to the same standard as the materials or the design work...Italians are famous for this - great design, fabulous materials....final delivery....erm..(on cars and bikes this usually manifests itself in the electrics). Having said that I'm wearing a pair of Gaerne boots now - only had them a month so we'll see.

bgd
15th September 2006, 08:37
I've had a pair of Sidis for 5 years and they still work. They were sold as waterproof but they've never been that so I use them as a summer boot. The other day I broke the zip pull thing but a bit of wire keeps it going. They are nearing the end of their life.


If you want a boot that will last then look at www.altberg.co.uk


I've had the all weather hoggs for 5 years as a winter boot. If I polish them up they look brand new. The only drawback is they make to order and the waiting list can be long, 5 months in my case.

Ghost Lemur
15th September 2006, 08:47
What brand is the zip? YKK for instance have lifetime warrenties on their zips. Also was it the distributor or manufacturer who turned you away. There is a difference.

I want a pair of Sidi Discoveries. Best dual purpose boot I've been able to find. Just trying to justify the $500 price tag is a bit hard currently.

The_Dover
15th September 2006, 09:01
Most people dont put three bikes through being written off in a year

Don't they teach fags to count in the navy??

one plus one is three???

and I was only wearing my Sidi's on one of them.

The Pastor
15th September 2006, 10:26
That's nothing like what you said. You implied that they didn't provide the protection that should be afforded by their price tag.

I'm guessing you dropped out of school? I mean, there must be some reason that you're so incredibly bad at articulating yourself.


Yeah I did drop out. And yeah I cant articualte or spell. Or even clap in time.

imdying
15th September 2006, 18:37
Yeah I did drop out. And yeah I cant articualte or spell. Or even clap in time.
Download Firefox version 2. It has an inbuilt spell checker.

The Pastor
15th September 2006, 19:14
Im not worried about my spelling. any words I cant spell to the point of other people not knowing I use a dictionary lol (most of the time - im a little dis-lex-ic so that doesnt help lol)

onearmedbandit
15th September 2006, 19:27
RM, actually try to gain some knowledge on the specific safety features of this 'poser' boots before you post shit.

imdying
15th September 2006, 20:07
Im not worried about my spelling. any words I cant spell to the point of other people not knowing I use a dictionary lol (most of the time - im a little dis-lex-ic so that doesnt help lol)Fair enough, thought you might get some value from having a spell checker built into KB, I know I do :yes:

The Pastor
15th September 2006, 21:41
Fair enough, thought you might get some value from having a spell checker built into KB, I know I do :yes:

a spell checker will add to server stress, I had one on my forums and it didnt go down to well with the host. (but it was buggy as hell)

imdying
15th September 2006, 22:09
a spell checker will add to server stress, I had one on my forums and it didnt go down to well with the host. (but it was buggy as hell)No no, this is client side, not server side. It's built into Firefox version 2. It's just like using word... when you are typing in the message box, all your mistakes are underlined with a red dotted line :yes: It works for every forum that you use, because Firefox knows when you need it :) I'm super serial brother, it's the business :yes:

The Pastor
15th September 2006, 22:11
Stop smiling! its creeping me out (you never know whos watching)

onearmedbandit
15th September 2006, 22:23
Anyway, I've had a pair of Sidi Vertabra race boots for 3 yrs now, get daily use and other than me ripping the interior lining once have proved faultlessly.

sAsLEX
16th September 2006, 16:36
No no, this is client side, not server side. It's built into Firefox version 2. It's just like using word... when you are typing in the message box, all your mistakes are underlined with a red dotted line :yes: It works for every forum that you use, because Firefox knows when you need it :) I'm super serial brother, it's the business :yes:

masdd basdasopi sdnaiwnd I am also running FF beta 2 but the spell checker dont seem to work nor could I find it in the options!

dawnrazor
23rd September 2006, 13:40
Okay got my boots back this morning from the cobblers, they did a fantastic job, as far as the zips are concerned they are as good as new. Why sidi can't fit quality zips to their boots is beyond me.

With any luck I'll get another couple of years out of them, it wasn't a cheap fix but it was cheaper then new boots.

For the record Gemmells on Symonds Street did the work, fitted YKK zips and was $300 cheaper then a new pair!!