Whats the best sportbike mod.......

[dawnrazor]

I have just installed a 'HEALTECH' GIpro w/ATRE.

An aftermarket Gear Indicator with Advanced Timing Retard Eliminator.

I can now see what gear I'm in which is a nice bonus, more importantly however, it over-rides the factory limiter in gears 1 - 4 and at low RPMs. The bike now pulls cleanly from idle with no hesistation and on my maiden test ride I popped a wheelie from standstill without slipping the clutch, actually without really trying at all. It sounds much better at low RPM's as well.

It has completely changed the bikes throttle response, and its a cheap and easy modification that has not hurt the bike at all whats so ever, I only wish I had done this a year ago..... as far as bang for your buck goes its amazing, anyways its my top mod to date, whats yours?

[Hitcher]

Hmmm. A retard eliminator. Send me a case!

And my top mod to date? Heated handgrips! Woo hoo!

[dhunt]

I have just installed a 'HEALTECH' GIpro w/ATRE.

An aftermarket Gear Indicator with Advanced Timing Retard Eliminator.

I can now see what gear I'm in which is a nice bonus, more importantly however, it over-rides the factory limiter in gears 1 - 4 and at low RPMs. The bike now pulls cleanly from idle with no hesistation and on my maiden test ride I popped a wheelie from standstill without slipping the clutch, actually without really trying at all. It sounds much better at low RPM's as well.

It has completely changed the bikes throttle response, and its a cheap and easy modification that has not hurt the bike at all whats so ever, I only wish I had done this a year ago..... as far as bang for your buck goes its amazing, anyways its my top mod to date, whats yours?
I would be interested to know if it has an effect on your fuel consumption. Have you noticed in negative effects of putting it in? I've been quite tempted to make one up for my bike - just haven't got round to it yet.

[dawnrazor]

I would be interested to know if it has an effect on your fuel consumption. Have you noticed in negative effects of putting it in? I've been quite tempted to make one up for my bike - just haven't got round to it yet.

can't really comment about the fuel comp yet, will keep an eye on it, however the advantages are truly mindblowing....its a different bike...end of story...I'm blown away by the new low down throttle response right now, its so much more lively and just as easy to ride...can't see any bad sides so far.

[Kornholio]

effect on your fuel consumption. .

Lol wtf...on a bike there is no such thing :D

Ooooh and how much for this flux-capacitor thingymejig?? :mellow:

[dawnrazor]

Lol wtf...on a bike there is no such thing :D

Ooooh and how much for this flux-capacitor thingymejig?? :mellow:

you can get them with no gear indicator jobbie they are cheaper, the one I picked up is about $200 or so....

[Steam]

My mods so far... Ammo tin saddlebags, matt green paint, army stencil lettering, offroad tyre for a mudguard, camouflage seat, matt-black engine, and scrapes from dropping it at 70kph. It's not a sports bike tho, although I suppose you could go to a sports game on it.

[crash harry]

My mods so far... Ammo tin saddlebags, matt green paint, army stencil lettering, offroad tyre for a mudguard, camouflage seat, matt-black engine, and scrapes from dropping it at 70kph. It's not a sports bike tho, although I suppose you could go to a sports game on it.

That thing sonds like the MACHINE! Damn, even if you're making it up i'm giving you bling for making me laugh!

[Steam]

That thing sonds like the MACHINE! Damn, even if you're making it up i'm giving you bling for making me laugh!

Thanks, I'm quite amused by the machine myself, I'll post some photos in a few months when it's more finished.

But on a more serious note Dawnrazor, that mod sounds incredible, such a change for so cheap. How is such a thing possible? Why don't the bike companies include it as an option on the higher end sportsbikes?
In other words, what's the downside?

[Mr. Peanut]

Rossi :devil2:

[dhunt]

Lol wtf...on a bike there is no such thing :D

Ooooh and how much for this flux-capacitor thingymejig?? :mellow:
I don't like having to fill up to often. The 600 already sucks enough juice how it is. Any worse and you'd have to start plotting your course based on whether the petrol stations are (Not that I don't do that already to some degree)

Basically you can make one of these contraption up for the cost of a resistor, and switch, wire etc if you not afraid of a soldering iron.

[Patch]

A bolt-on supercharger that adds about 60hp to a stock motor. When I've stopped spending money in all the other places, I'll buy one or two. :love:

[Kornholio]

I don't like having to fill up to often. The 600 already sucks enough juice how it is. Any worse and you'd have to start plotting your course based on whether the petrol stations are (Not that I don't do that already to some degree)

Basically you can make one of these contraption up for the cost of a resistor, and switch, wire etc if you not afraid of a soldering iron.

Cages you worry about fuel consumption.... there is a thread here somewhere on a DIY TRE and seeing as I work at a bikeshop im sure the mechanics can point me in the right direction :/

[boomer]

blah blah blah...seeing as I work at a bikeshop im sure the mechanics can point me in the right direction :/

Right Dick, this is teh front wheeeeel and this is teh rear wheeeel.. you sit here and you yank this! got it? :p

[Zed]

can't really comment about the fuel comp yet, will keep an eye on it, however the advantages are truly mindblowing....its a different bike...end of story...I'm blown away by the new low down throttle response right now, its so much more lively and just as easy to ride...can't see any bad sides so far.Sounds like a worthy mod indeed. So have you got a link to where you bought it from? How long did it take to install?

[Kornholio]

Right Dick, this is teh front wheeeeel and this is teh rear wheeeel.. you sit here and you yank this! got it? :p

Dude I hope you're talking about a motorbike here :/

[R6_kid]

I thought that TRE were available for around $30US?

Gear thing would help, had one on my old 250, sorta missed it on the ZXR, now i just count gears on the R6 (when i need to know) which is what the racers do anyway.

How does your gear change display work?

[TLDV8]

Suspension

Transistor ATRE $1.17 plus Plugs

[Shaun]

Just curious as why any one would need a gear position display unit? I mean, there is no rule that says you must be in this gear to do this, and I am very sure that you would know if you were reving to high or low

Apart from that, taking yours eyes of the INCOMING is what will Hurt you.

so as I said, Just curious as to why?

[98tls]

Best bang for buck mod on my TLs was a TRE......combined with a yoshimura fuel injection adjuster its a different bike altogether....

[jonbuoy]

Rider training.

[Cajun]

personally i don't think the TRE did fuck all really to my 600. did improve it a touch, but not that much, it did make a huge difference to the fueling on the 1k and the busa tho.

Best bang for buck mod i have done in 2 1/2 years is doing my sprockets(change the gearing)

[skelstar]

Ripping out the baffles on my Hornet. I could hear my exhaust note which seems to be an octave lower than my cam chain sound (?) and encouraged me to rev the bike more. Definitley transformed my riding.

[steved]

Rider training.
Very true.

[terbang]

I have just installed a 'HEALTECH' GIpro w/ATRE.

An aftermarket Gear Indicator with Advanced Timing Retard Eliminator.

I can now see what gear I'm in which is a nice bonus, more importantly however, it over-rides the factory limiter in gears 1 - 4 and at low RPMs. The bike now pulls cleanly from idle with no hesistation and on my maiden test ride I popped a wheelie from standstill without slipping the clutch, actually without really trying at all. It sounds much better at low RPM's as well.

It has completely changed the bikes throttle response, and its a cheap and easy modification that has not hurt the bike at all whats so ever, I only wish I had done this a year ago..... as far as bang for your buck goes its amazing, anyways its my top mod to date, whats yours?

I've fitted a TRE to my Busa and it has made it much more responsive down low and also smoothed the engine a lot in the lower gears. Just gotta keep an eye on the rear tyre in the wet though! Cost $43 US and it has to be a good value mod.

[bell]

Haven't bought it yet but I read that K&N, BMC or one of those other brands of air filters can improve performance. Anyone testify to this?

[Shaun]

Very true.



Agree with that totaly

[Shaun]

Thats a good question which I also wonder about when I hear of these contraptions.

My question is what are you doing up at this ungodly hour of the morning on KB. I'm at work getting paid so I have an excuse


I,ve started training and can never sleep for about 3 weeks into it untill my body and mind gets used to having all the extra energy.

[Big Dave]

Best single improvement i've made to any motorcycle is installing an Ohlins Shock.

[R1madness]

Got to agree with jonbouy about the rider training. The next best mod (in my opinion) is a quality rear shock. They are worth about the same as 10hp in terms of speed, acceleration (out of a corner), not to mention safety and comfort. Buy WP.

[Coyote]

Nos lol

In fact I will be looking into making my own nitrous system once I have a bike that I won't worry about blowing the engine apart. A cheap minimoto is my most worthy target

[Toast]

Biggest gains are from the rider, and suspension setup, even of stock parts...imo

Braided brake lines are also a nice, cheap, confidence inspiring upgrade.

[Mental Trousers]

I,ve started training and can never sleep for about 3 weeks into it untill my body and mind gets used to having all the extra energy.
Far canal. You mean you're more energetic and busy than normal??

[Shaun]

Far canal. You mean you're more energetic and busy than normal??


LMFAO @ that one mate, you should see me at this exact moment, I have just been informed from the USA that I have a VIsa for next year, and I have a team :scooter: Iiiiii'M going on a,:sunny: holiday

But will be back to play

[Toast]

LMFAO @ that one mate, you should see me at this exact moment, I have just been informed from the USA that I have a VIsa for next year, and I have a team :scooter: Iiiiii'M going on a,:sunny: holiday

But will be back to play

Are you going to race in AMA or something?

[kiwifruit]

Rider training.

so true

[kiwifruit]

Are you going to race in AMA or something?

heres hoping! go Shaun you beast!!!

[Mental Trousers]

LMFAO @ that one mate, you should see me at this exact moment, I have just been informed from the USA that I have a VIsa for next year, and I have a team :scooter: Iiiiii'M going on a,:sunny: holiday

But will be back to play

awww nice. Good on ya mate.

[2QK2C]

Whats TRE? Would it do anything for my 600? where do I get it and what exactly does it do?

[98tls]

timing retard eliminator........some bikes have a retarded ignition in gears 1-4 from the factory...two types manual and automatic...have no idea if your bikes ignition is retarded sorry...lots of debate on these things..simple...they work..at least on my TL.

[Edbear]

Mmmmm! I think the best mod I could do is lose some weight...:third:

[onearmedbandit]

The TRE (timing retard eliminator) everyone is refering to is for the suzuki range of fuel injected bikes, most effective on the GSXR1000 and Hayabusa, but some have noticed good gains on some of the other models. There are similar units available for other fuel injected bikes, but not for your 600 sorry.

Best mod I've made to my bike is user specific, and it's the seat pad I've got on the rear cowl. Without it I can not even begin to ride the bike properly, I'm quite short and with only one hand on the bars hard acceleration out of corners results in me being throw backwards, meaning I have to button off. With it however I can keep my weight over the front of the bike, and retain better control.

Otherwise I have to say my Ohlins rear shock, as others have said, is my best improvement. Better turn in, holds a tighter line and reduces excessive wear on the rear tyre!

[dhunt]

Whats TRE? Would it do anything for my 600? where do I get it and what exactly does it do?
Nope wouldn't work for your bike as it is carburatored (too old). the TRE tricks the computer on modern (fuel injected) bikes into thinking it is in 5th gear all the time so it will give out full power in the lower gears. You can make one up pretty cheap or buy them at varying prices from the states.

[Kornholio]

The TRE (timing retard eliminator) everyone is refering to is for the suzuki range of fuel injected bikes, most effective on the GSXR1000 and Hayabusa, but some have noticed good gains on some of the other models. There are similar units available for other fuel injected bikes, but not for your 600 sorry.

Best mod I've made to my bike is user specific, and it's the seat pad I've got on the rear cowl. Without it I can not even begin to ride the bike properly, I'm quite short and with only one hand on the bars hard acceleration out of corners results in me being throw backwards, meaning I have to button off. With it however I can keep my weight over the front of the bike, and retain better control.

Otherwise I have to say my Ohlins rear shock, as others have said, is my best improvement. Better turn in, holds a tighter line and reduces excessive wear on the rear tyre!

Mucho respecto for you dude :D

[Shaun]

Are you going to race in AMA or something?


Yea, most of the Superbike rounds and a heap of other race meetings all over the country, gunna go finish of my dream!

Good thing is, MOTO-DYNAMIX can now Ship stuff direct to your door from the USA, I will have some one at this end doing the sales of accesories whilst I am over there.

[onearmedbandit]

Best of luck Shaun, keep us up to speed with your progress.

[2much]

Best mod for a sportsbike? Pipe, cause standard pipes are just gay.

Best bang for buck mod? Sprockets (gearing).

Best overall mod? Spend some $ on ya suspension.... oh yeah, and rider training but I'm so slow I'm beyond help.


Lol wtf...on a bike there is no such thing :D

Ooooh and how much for this flux-capacitor thingymejig?? :mellow:

I can make ya one and install it for $10 and a box of bourbs, monkey boy.


Right Dick, this is teh front wheeeeel and this is teh rear wheeeel.. you sit here and you yank this! got it? :p

Nah mate I think ya lost him... might wanna go over it again.


Sounds like a worthy mod indeed. So have you got a link to where you bought it from? How long did it take to install?

Sorry Zed, can't get them for Honda's.

Suzuki retard the timing in the first 3 gears to try and protect squids from hurting themselves, this little device gets around that giving said squids the power to loop their bike at will. (God knows why suzuki do it to the pos SV's?)

Honda don't retard the timing as they're already gutless.


Haven't bought it yet but I read that K&N, BMC or one of those other brands of air filters can improve performance. Anyone testify to this?

If you notice a power difference after installing a performance filter it's for one of two reasons. Either the old filter was dirty and blocked so bad that the engine couldn't breath, or you're imagining it.


Best of luck Shaun, keep us up to speed with your progress.

+1

[Toast]

Yea, most of the Superbike rounds and a heap of other race meetings all over the country, gunna go finish of my dream!

Good thing is, MOTO-DYNAMIX can now Ship stuff direct to your door from the USA, I will have some one at this end doing the sales of accesories whilst I am over there.

F$%^'n sweet! After reading that Dom Jones report, I can't think of anything cooler than travelling around the US and racing.

All the best :niceone:

[Zed]

Sorry Zed, can't get them for Honda's...

Honda don't retard the timing as they're already gutless.I guess I walked into that!

My Blade ain't gutless btw.

[dawnrazor]

But on a more serious note Dawnrazor, that mod sounds incredible, such a change for so cheap. How is such a thing possible? Why don't the bike companies include it as an option on the higher end sportsbikes?
In other words, what's the downside?

haven't found a downside - maybe I'll use a bit more fuel 'cus i'll be givin git sticks all over the place....


Sounds like a worthy mod indeed. So have you got a link to where you bought it from? How long did it take to install?

http://www.healtech-electronics.com/en/order.htm

I got mine at colemans, I'm sure it would be cheaper to order it from the website or direct. It took 15 minutes or so, most of that was routing the wiring neatly and deciding where to mount the gear indicator thingy.


I thought that TRE were available for around $30US?

Gear thing would help, had one on my old 250, sorta missed it on the ZXR, now i just count gears on the R6 (when i need to know) which is what the racers do anyway.

How does your gear change display work?

to be honest the gear indicator is a fancy bonus, that just came along with the TRE - I'd have been happy without it as well.


Just curious as why any one would need a gear position display unit? I mean, there is no rule that says you must be in this gear to do this, and I am very sure that you would know if you were reving to high or low

Apart from that, taking yours eyes of the INCOMING is what will Hurt you.

so as I said, Just curious as to why?

as above the GI is a bonus and a gimmic, I bought the unit for the TRE


Haven't bought it yet but I read that K&N, BMC or one of those other brands of air filters can improve performance. Anyone testify to this?

I popped a BMC in when I put my yoshi pipe on and it makes a big difference, worth getting the fueling remapped by the local dealer as mine ran lean afterwards.


Whats TRE? Would it do anything for my 600? where do I get it and what exactly does it do?

See previous posts

[dawnrazor]

personally i don't think the TRE did fuck all really to my 600. did improve it a touch, but not that much, it did make a huge difference to the fueling on the 1k and the busa tho.

Best bang for buck mod i have done in 2 1/2 years is doing my sprockets(change the gearing)

Hey mate I'm not shitting you, put from standing starts and low rpms in low gears - its a different bike, no question - I used to have a noticable hesitation in the bikes response at low revs/rpm - now its like a rocket off the line. It hasn't added any extra BHP, but just feels like its loosened the whole bike up down low where it was quite lumpy, now its a lot more eager to get up the revs and me into trouble!!!!

[Cajun]

as above the GI is a bonus and a gimmic, I bought the unit for the TRE


I popped a BMC in when I put my yoshi pipe on and it makes a big difference, worth getting the fueling remapped by the local dealer as mine ran lean afterwards.


Strange my bike ran rich after my pipe and filter



haven't found a downside - maybe I'll use a bit more fuel 'cus i'll be givin git sticks all over the place....

Same fuel is used(i never noticed change in fuel milage after installing mine) But i still don't think its the best mod to do on a 600/750, a 1000+

[dawnrazor]

Strange my bike ran rich after my pipe and filter


Mine has always been so hopeless at low low rpms I just thought thats the way it was, I then took another K5 with a micron out and it seemed a bit smoother in the same rev range - I put that down to the pipe, when I put my filter on with stock pipe it ran fine, but the yoshi pipe made it very rough and idol very unevenlycut out alot - a black box rejig sorted that out

will post a picture, once I've given it a wash!!!!!

[Cajun]

yeah i just got a pc3 fitted to mine on saturday to help mine,

mine will get a strip down to nothing and cleaned top to tail, at its 30,000kms service (600kms time)

[dawnrazor]

yeah i just got a pc3 fitted to mine on saturday to help mine,

mine will get a strip down to nothing and cleaned top to tail, at its 30,000kms service (600kms time)

I thought about a power commander..but decided it was going to be too expensive, especially after the yoshi - maybe later

[Cajun]

yeah well picked up mine second hand, already with a professional map with same mods of mine.

I have been riding around on race exhust for coming up a year now,

[98tls]

The TLs had really bad stutters at low rpms..3-4000..TRE fitted and they dissapeared completly...been having alot of fun mucking about with settings on yosh box...just wish i could afford a full system to make the most of it.

[beyond]

I guess I walked into that!

My Blade ain't gutless btw.

Yep, can vouch for the fact that Zed's Blade is not gutless. Goes quite well actually. :)

Was thinking of pulling over and letting him pass a few times oon last Saturdays Coro run, but then I thought nah, this is too much fun so he had to suck 1400 fumes for a while. :)

[Lou Girardin]

I thought about a power commander..but decided it was going to be too expensive, especially after the yoshi - maybe later

At least get a dyno baseline run done. Make sure it's not too far out.

[Zed]

Was thinking of pulling over and letting him pass a few times oon last Saturdays Coro run, but then I thought nah, this is too much fun so he had to suck 1400 fumes for a while. :)That was a great part of the ride, i was more than happy to let you lead thru them hills, part of my fun was watching you throw that machine around the 25 and 35km twisties!

[DMNTD]

That was a great part of the ride, i was more than happy to let you lead thru them hills, part of my fun was watching you throw that machine around the 25 and 35km twisties!

It certainly was fun to watch! Oh...and ya bike definately is not gutless either Zed. Had a hard time keeping up :dodge: