Quick way of getting a license

[masterofpuppets]

gidday people, no i dont know of a quick way of getting a license, but i was hoping one of you more experienced people could help. My old man has been drooling over the fact that i ride a bike for quite a while now. He's decided that its time for him to get a bike, and looking at possibly a boulevard s40.

Now the question is: Is there a way of bypassing the graduated licensing system and going straing to a full license. I have heard in the past that this is possible by doing some course or something, but is it? he's old enough as well.:innocent:

any input will be appreciated people.:rockon:

[McJim]

If there was a quicker way I would have done it!

I'm 36 and hold a full car licence - there is a way of driving a large capacity bike on a Learners licence but you have to prove you are 7 foot 7 or that you weight 220kg and that a 250cc is therefore inappropriate so if your dad is oversize in some way that may work.

Otherwise the time lag ain't to bad for us oldies. Sit basic handling and wait 6 months....practice a bit then sit Restricted....practice a bit more and sit 'approved course' then 3 months later full test - total time from zero to hero 9 months - like having a baby.

[Jack the Ripper]

I do have acquaintances whom escaped some of the license bullshit to legally ride a larger capacity motorcycle based on their license status and driving history.

So it would be my suggestion that an exemption is a possibility for your Old Man however he should contact the LTSA directly to seek more information and to discuss his options.

[WINJA]

gidday people, no i dont know of a quick way of getting a license, but i was hoping one of you more experienced people could help. My old man has been drooling over the fact that i ride a bike for quite a while now. He's decided that its time for him to get a bike, and looking at possibly a boulevard s40.

Now the question is: Is there a way of bypassing the graduated licensing system and going straing to a full license. I have heard in the past that this is possible by doing some course or something, but is it? he's old enough as well.:innocent:

any input will be appreciated people.:rockon:

YEAH GOTO FIJI , PAY $30 FOR A FULL LICENCE , COME BACK AND SWAP FOR A FULL NZ LICENCE

[The_Dover]

Fly To Raratonga And Get A Licence Then Convert It When You Come Back.

[Ixion]

There was , for a couple of years, a scheme called the CBTA, which allowed people who had had cage licences for several years to do an accelerated course that could get you a full licence in (in theory) a couple of weeks.

But, alas, the scheme was stopped at the beginning of this year. There is now no alternative to the graduated scheme. Though it is possible to apply for exemptions to specific aspects of the scheme (typically, bike size and the night curfew).

[McJim]

Fly To Raratonga And Get A Licence Then Convert It When You Come Back.

Faack - I can't believe you've let me drive around like a fanny with a loser plate on all this time and never told me that - how much is the cheapest fare to Rarotonga?

[gijoe1313]

Faack - I can't believe you've let me drive around like a fanny with a loser plate on all this time and never told me that - how much is the cheapest fare to Rarotonga?

Fer Feck Feck's Fecking sake! I'm with McJim here since I'm in my midlife crisis - I coulda flown to Raro/Fiji and just gotten a big bike straight off! :doh:

Ah well, I guess its all for the best :innocent: ... but jeez ... :oi-grr: :msn-wink:

[Karma]

From start to finish I had my bike license in a week.

Did Basic Training on Monday, then advanced training tues - thurs, then test on Friday. Pretty easy really... cost a small fortune though, like $1500.

This was all in the UK mind you...

[Turtle]

Ya like Dover said....I also heard that if you have a learner license & you go to Rarotonga that while there you are isued with an international full license & then when you return to NZ that can be exchanged here for a full license.A loop hole that will soon be filled I guess..Good luck.

[masterofpuppets]

There was , for a couple of years, a scheme called the CBTA, which allowed people who had had cage licences for several years to do an accelerated course that could get you a full licence in (in theory) a couple of weeks.

But, alas, the scheme was stopped at the beginning of this year. There is now no alternative to the graduated scheme. Though it is possible to apply for exemptions to specific aspects of the scheme (typically, bike size and the night curfew).

^^^
Yeah i think this is what i had in mind. Too bad they don't do it any longer.
I suppose he could apply for an exemption ....... lets just say he hasnt been starved as a child:yes: .
I guess the best thing to do is for him to ring the LTSA or whatever and have a chat, see how big an exemption he will get.:done:

[Lil_Byte]

Get a time machine and get your licence back when I did (they used a wee green book in those days):scooter:

[Matt]

I thought you have to of had your full overseas licence for 2 years before exchanging it for an NZ one? (i.e. so you just need to do the scratchie) - otherwise you have to do the full practical again?

Matt

[Karma]

Yeh thats true. But in my case because I've had a car license since 2001, and a bike licence since 2005, they basically go on road experience, so it counted as 2001.

I sat two theory tests and paid over some dosh and bam, new license.

[The_Dover]

Still skips the wait though doesn't it?

[JimO]

my nephew moved to aus and when he changed is licence to a aus one the guy gave him a car and bike licence so his first bike was a cbr600:2thumbsup

[Matt]

Yeh thats true. But in my case because I've had a car license since 2001, and a bike licence since 2005, they basically go on road experience, so it counted as 2001.

I sat two theory tests and paid over some dosh and bam, new license.

Haha and I thought the local AA shop did that just with me :) - although I did ring the LTSA first who said I would have to do the practical bike test again!
Guess if you did any "direct-access" course overseas then you'd get round the NZ restrictions after you've converted it.

[andrea]

i was planning on making my own full license using abit of cardboard, my crayons and sticking it into those flash lil card holders.
or he can ring up LTSA for an exemption but he's got to have a good reason for wanting to get straight onto a fulls.

[Ixion]

I don't think you can actually skip any stages , but you can apply for an exemption from waiting between each one. So in theory you could take all of them on the same day.

But I believe they are loath to give exemptions at the L stage.

[andrea]

I don't think you can actually skip any stages , but you can apply for an exemption from waiting between each one. So in theory you could take all of them on the same day.

But I believe they are loath to give exemptions at the L stage.

ohwell looks like your dad will have to make one like me, try a cocoa puffs cereal box design

[The_Dover]

shit, does helen give coconuts speshul motoboik licences thru WINZ aswell?

[andrea]

shit, does helen give coconuts speshul motoboik licences thru WINZ aswell?
yeah man ask your mum she got one

[The_Dover]

yeah man ask your mum she got one

My mum's never even been to NZ. She's cypriot.

[masterofpuppets]

Yep.... here we go...

I made him this one do you think it will be ok?

[andrea]

Yep.... here we go...

I made him this one do you think it will be ok?

damn could of fooled me, but seriously if he gets his learners or whatever he could ring up land transport and ask for an exemption to get a fulls. but they'
ll ask for a reason why so its got to be a good one

[BNZ]

There was , for a couple of years, a scheme called the CBTA, which allowed people who had had cage licences for several years to do an accelerated course that could get you a full licence in (in theory) a couple of weeks.

But, alas, the scheme was stopped at the beginning of this year. There is now no alternative to the graduated scheme. Though it is possible to apply for exemptions to specific aspects of the scheme (typically, bike size and the night curfew).

My brother completed his CBTA this year....

There is another scam involving the change over from paper to card licenses....

[t3mp0r4ry nzr]

damn could of fooled me, but seriously if he gets his learners or whatever he could ring up land transport and ask for an exemption to get a fulls. but they'
ll ask for a reason why so its got to be a good one

would working in the motorcycle industry would be a good enough reason to skip or shorten the restricted period do you think? seems stupid to be selling the big bikes but not be able to demo them to see what they can do...

[marty]

from the fiji licensing website. class 1 is a motorbike:

A person who has passed a driving test or examination shall be issued with a provisional licence for a period of two years before a full driver's licence is issued. Driving licence for class 1, 2 and 8 shall be issued as a provisional licence.

The holder of a provisional licence for a motor vehicle shall display a letter "P" not less than 150mm in height in red on a white background in the front and rear of the motor vehicle and the rear of the motor cycle. The holder of a provisional licence shall not drive a motorcycle with engine capacity greater than 260 cc.

[marty]

and from the cooks:

DRIVING
If you want to drive in the Cook Islands, you will need to obtain a Cook Islands Drivers license from the Police Department. For a motor car license, just present your current drivers license. For a motor bike license, you will have to do a short practical test. Driving is on the left-hand side and the average speed is 40km/hr.

[Ixion]

Rarotonga. It's Rarotonga



Driving in the Cook Islands

If you don't want to rely on Rarotonga's limited bus service or be confined to a resort area, then you really need your own set of wheels in the Cook Islands.

The big rental car companies are based in Rarotonga although you're much more limited in the other islands. Because all the islands are so small, most people prefer to rent a small motorcycle rather than a car. Motorscooters are reasonably cheap and easy to ride.

Road rules are fairly relaxed. You drive on the left and nobody wears helmets when they're riding a bike, although it isn't really that dangerous since the maximum speed limit is only 40km/h. You should keep an eye out for wild chickens, though.

Everyone needs to have a local Cook Islands drivers licence. Your home licence or even an international licence is no good in the Cooks. Getting a local licence is is a reasonably simple and laid back process, you can even ride your rental bike to the police station for the test.

A Cook Islands' drivers licence costs NZ$10 and it makes a good souvenir. In Rarotonga you need to get your licence from police headquarters in Avarua. If your home licence doesn't permit you to ride a motorbike, you will need to bring your rental bike to do a quick test - as long as you can ride your bike up the street and back again without falling off you'll be alright.

If you're going to the other islands, it's a good idea to get your licence in Rarotonga first - it can be difficult finding a police officer in the other islands to issue you with one. Besides, a Rarotonga-issued licence is a nice laminated one and much better than the piece of paper that you would be issued with in the outer islands.

[McJim]

Knew a dude in blighty who did Kenyan drivers licences for 200 quid.

You gave him your passport and the dosh, he sent your passport to a bloke in Kenya - he stamped your passport in and out and someone completed your driver's licence for you - 2 weeks later full Kenyan licence which you could convert to full UK licence for about 30 quid.

[quackquack]

If you are a decent sized person you can get a form so that you can drive the big bikes on your learners license you get a form called DL-4 .. call the LTSA then you can be away. You have to show photo's of you on a bike so use a nifty 50 so it looks small

[Shaun]

This is the only way I know about, and it only applies to people that can prove they have been riding bikes for a couple of years without a Licence!

If you can prove you have a car licence

If you can prove you have been riding a bike over a 250cc for a few years 2-3

If you can prove you have a brain, and all the correct safety gear

If you can prove you want to be a part of the system

Go to your Local Justice of piece, explain your case, and ask them to write you a letter detailing your scenario and history as a rider, then take that to your local Head of the traffic department

The chances are that they will issue you with a full Licence

Has happened to quite a few people I know in the Taranaki region, we had a very high number of non Full licence riders in the region

[Joe Bloggs]

My neighbour went for a trip to Raro in July and got his license while he was there. From memory I think it cost him $20.

[Roj]

ohwell looks like your dad will have to make one like me, try a cocoa puffs cereal box design


Try the cornflakes, i got mine a few decades ago and it seems to be holding up OK:shutup:

[RnB Fan]

Had a Raro licence once years ago - maybe I should try finding it rather than having to sit my full. I did my Learners to restricted in the space of a month through the CBTA when it was up and running but then got slack and by the time I enquired about moving to the full licence the CBTA had finished. Personally I found doing the process over the 9 months was beneficial cos I didn't have a lot of road riding experience.

[Sphinx]

Hi yah I am not sure whether your querie is still relevant but I heard that you can get your full licence in Australia within a few days. Not sure though whether that´s true because otherwise every kiwi biker would do it like that I reckon!???

[rainman]

Just did the Cook Islands conversion this week... my experience with the process was:

My Cooks license expired in May this year (they last up to a year, expire on your next birthday from date of issue), island holiday was late last year
You can convert within 12 months of expiry of the Cooks license
I'd got my 6L before I got the idea of the conversion (by reading comments here - thanks!) :niceone:
$20 ride-around-the-block Cooks licenses do convert to 6F's, but you have to pass the theory and full practical. I just had to do the practical 'cos I had the 6L already
I paid about $160 for the conversion, plus normal BH skills and learners costs when I did the 6L (and of course the cost of a holiday in Raro...)
The AA people were a bit confused when I booked so I don't reckon they do these all that often, so they phoned the LTSA mothership and had it checked out, but it was all sweet
Did the test this week (very friendly and nice tester too), passed, so no more L plate, no more 70k limit! :rockon:
6L to 6F in about 2 months, and I coulda done it quicker if I'd figured this out earlier :doh:


Disclaimer: not sure if this applies to <25's or if there are other special conditions for other countries, YMMV and all that.

[crazybigal]

goto bali and buy a licence and come back and you will get a full nz one.

[90s]

Hi, was gearing up to put a case to LandTransport that I first passed my motorcycle test in Blegium in 1987 (20yrs this yr) and wanted to skip this long wait (lost licence years ago as was off bikes for many, many yrs) when I saw this Cook Island thread. As I had one of these ($10 only with no practical as I already had the NZ 6L) AA Albert St in Auckland did not bat an eye when I asked to convert it to a full 6. Paid $130 and took the full test yeaterday (see other thread) - totally sweet.
Total time from 6L to full - 5 months but could have been less if I had been in a hurry or read this thread earlier.

Thanks!