SH 16. cops cops cops

[hurricane_r]

keeping posting to minimum on site,
dont even bother with hwy16,
and only organise rides with pm
watch out for mazda 6, saw a blue one, got a guy on a gsxr1000
tricky barstards,

[Scouse]

Or ride at a sesible speed maybe

[bobsmith]

Or ride at a sesible speed maybe

HERETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

[hurricane_r]

Or ride at a sesible speed maybe

i was riding with u yesterday, lol u werent riding at a sensible speed

[Scouse]

i was riding with u yesterday, lol u werent riding at a sensible speedI was when the Oinkers were prowling

[WINJA]

keeping posting to minimum on site,
dont even bother with hwy16,
and only organise rides with pm
watch out for mazda 6, saw a blue one, got a guy on a gsxr1000
tricky barstards,

YOUR BACK , I THOUGHT YOU SPAT THE DUMMY LIKE A LITTLE BITCH AND VOWED NOT TO COME BACK ,NO ONE LIKES A LIAR

[onearmedbandit]

obviously the Gixxer 1000 rider didnt.



Or he doesn't visit KB...

[hurricane_r]

YOUR BACK , I THOUGHT YOU SPAT THE DUMMY LIKE A LITTLE BITCH AND VOWED NOT TO COME BACK ,NO ONE LIKES A LIAR


keeping posting to minimum on site,

i never vowed*, i only log in to check pms, and to pass on advice, for roads, ie cops etc, , and weather u got caps lock on or not dont make u sound louder, im sure we can all hear you, oops not any more, officaly added to ignore list, (as others prolly have as well)

[Mrs Busa Pete]

I warned you on Draco's thread about the police presence on 16, including the blue Mazda 6. Lucky you listened, obviously the Gixxer 1000 rider didnt.

No it was a 600 done for 215 kph and he wasn't a kber or on draco's ride. But he now has 6 month to think about it and 28 days storage to pay for. Cop was also telling him about the six he got the other night while he was bring him to the gas station.

[cowpoos]

the sky is falling!!!!!!! the sky is falling!!!!!!!!

[The Pastor]

215 thats pretty decent, Whats the highest speeding tickect issued in nz?

[skidMark]

yeah i saw the mazda 6 as i left going the other way...soon followed by a ute with a trailor with a blue gixxer on the back...i crawled on the way back pissed down and got real slippery

insaying thati didn't go quick on the way there either whats the point in speeding....get you there 2 mins earlier.......late for your funeral?

somebody give me a good reason or else keep that shit for the track.

[RM125king]

what we should do is setup an underground section on the forum and you can only access it if your known to squirt it open a bit and dont want the fuzzy muff to know. stuff like ride meets and thursday night stuff should only be available to people that you know and that are not cops and enjoy a good ride not worring about the cops knowing your exact route. it would be almost another little club . you have to be nominated by some one that knows your not a cop and likes a bit of action. just a suggestion for the moderators.

[skidMark]

Whats the highest speeding tickect issued in nz?


too fast.

somebody recently told me something about if it's over 200 or something that they lock you up.

[skidMark]

what we should do is setup an underground section on the forum and you can only access it if your known to squirt it open a bit and dont want the fuzzy muff to know. stuff like ride meets and thursday night stuff should only be available to people that you know and that are not cops and enjoy a good ride not worring about the cops knowing your exact route. it would be almost another little club . you have to be nominated by some one that knows your not a cop and likes a bit of action. just a suggestion for the moderators.

or just obey the road rules....

[toymachine]

or just obey the road rules....

I was a good boy wearing my L plate...:shutup:

[Maha]

There is also a grey Holden driven by a 'road safety onlooker', saw it following two cruisers on 16 today shortly after passing the said 600.....:yes:

[Lou Girardin]

Well. they didn't get me when I was using my new found horseys. That would have been 'go straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200."

[RM125king]

or just obey the road rules....


some people actually want to see what there bike can do through some twisties. if you like driving in the city sticking to the speed limit good on ya. Most people buy bikes because they love the speed of them. im only suggesting an alternative. :finger:

[Ixion]

215kph on SH16 nowdays has got to be pushing your luck.

There are alternative roads north.

[yungatart]

215kph on SH16 nowdays has got to be pushing your luck.

There are alternative roads north.

I think 200+kph on anyroad has got to be pushing it - keep those kind of speeds for the track - they don't belong on the roads.

[Mom]

I think 200+kph on anyroad has got to be pushing it - keep those kind of speeds for the track - they don't belong on the roads.

What she said :yes:

[WINJA]

What she said :yes:

YOU LADIES ARE LOST , I THINK YOUR LOOKING FOR GRANNY RIDER OR SOMETHING

[yungatart]

YOU LADIES ARE LOST , I THINK YOUR LOOKING FOR GRANNY RIDER OR SOMETHING

Thanks so much foir pointing that out, Winja, you are too kind! Didn't realise that we weren't allowed to post in this thread......I'll just f*** back to the kitchen now, shall I?:dodge:

[Ixion]

Nah, before Sh16 got so popular and plod-ridden there were bits where 200 odd was reasonable enough.

But for the last couple of years its been overrun by Ethels and Plods.

[yungatart]

My opinion is that it IS dangerous to be doing those speeds on an open road where innocent people are tootling along mind their own business, never mind the capabilities of the rider - they have nothing to do with it. It puts other road users at unnecessary risk. Keep it for the track IMHO.
* Ducks to avoid all the reds*

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Thanks so much foir pointing that out, Winja, you are too kind! Didn't realise that we weren't allowed to post in this thread......I'll just f*** back to the kitchen now, shall I?:dodge:

i will have a beer from the fridge since your going

[Ixion]

Some eggs would be good, since you're there ?

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Some eggs would be good, since you're there ?

bacon and toast also tomatoes thanks

[skidMark]

some people actually want to see what there bike can do through some twisties. if you like driving in the city sticking to the speed limit good on ya. Most people buy bikes because they love the speed of them. im only suggesting an alternative. :finger:

i don't have a problem with a bit of speeding...but 215 keep that shit for the damn track....

if i was going to nana a 250 around i would have a gn not a il4 250 zxr mate.... but there is a time and a place.....there is saturdays at pukekohe to do 215 kph....

[marty]

200's too fast? hahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

i've just been talking to a HP cop - he said that most of the time he doesn't worry about bikes cause he knows the riders are usually concentrating harder, and if they crash they usually only kill themselves.

he always picks on patch wearers though.

i taught him well :)

[yungatart]

i will have a beer from the fridge since your going

No beer in the fridge, sorry guys - and its curried sausages tonight or go hungry.....

[Scouse]

I think 200+kph on anyroad has got to be pushing itspecialy on a el250. hey did'nt I see some winging about your kid getting a speeding ticket so is it ok for your family to speed but its not ok if somone in Auckland speeds....?

[marty]

I think 200+kph on anyroad has got to be pushing it - keep those kind of speeds for the track - they don't belong on the roads.

come for a ride on the back of the busa.

bring your brave pills

[Mrs Busa Pete]

No beer in the fridge, sorry guys - and its curried sausages tonight or go hungry.....

It's 5.40 now we should be able to get there by 9/9.30 is that ok we might have to speed though. Is ixion coming as well.

[yungatart]

specialy on a el250. hey did'nt I see some winging about your kid getting a speeding ticket so is it ok for your family to speed but its not ok if somone in Auckland speeds....?

Even if my bike could do that, I wouldn't. I didn't actually whinge about my kid getting a ticket, but since you brought it up, yes he did, and the telling off he got from the cop was minor in comparison to what he got from his mother. 65 kph is quite different to 215 tho, wouldn't you say?
Not all of us have to speed like the devil is on our arse. Not all of us have to "prove" ourselves, some of us can just ride at a reasonable pace and enjoy what we are doing.It can be about enjoying the journey and it has the added benefits of no road side tax and no demerits too... can't be all bad.

[yungatart]

It's 5.40 now we should be able to get there by 9/9.30 is that ok we might have to speed though. Is ixion coming as well.

I dunno about Ixion,he hasn't said, but I'll save you some....

[Maha]

No beer in the fridge, sorry guys - and its curried sausages tonight or go hungry.....

I love curried sausages, cook me up some bacon and some beans, then go out ot car and change the tyre, wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans, come on baby, you can fill my pipe, then go fetch my slippers, boil me up another pot of tea, then put another log on the fire babe, and come and tell me why ya' leavin' me.....:done:

[skidMark]

It's 5.40 now we should be able to get there by 9/9.30 is that ok we might have to speed though. Is ixion coming as well.

your on a busa you could be there by 725

[Ixion]

It's 5.40 now we should be able to get there by 9/9.30 is that ok we might have to speed though. Is ixion coming as well.

Rather partial to curried sausages. And I always carry a few beers in the BMW saddlebags.

Auckland to Napier, 400+ km. And some slow bits to get through, plus a fuel stop. I'd reckon a good 4 hours. And allow a bit for finding the house. Say 10pm I reckon.

But I'm not coming if that greedy little hXc fella's gonna eat all the sausages before I get there.

[Drum]

specialy on a el250. hey did'nt I see some winging about your kid getting a speeding ticket so is it ok for your family to speed but its not ok if somone in Auckland speeds....?

Ahh, the old "my penis is bigger than your penis" comeback.
Dont scrape your knuckles on the ground mate.

[MSTRS]

I think 200+kph on anyroad has got to be pushing it - keep those kind of speeds for the track - they don't belong on the roads.

So those smacks on my shoulder were NOT to go a 'bit' faster then?

[MSTRS]

But I'm not coming if that greedy little hXc fella's gonna eat all the sausages before I get there.

*mouth-breather voice* "MMmmm I thmell thauthageth"

[Maha]

So those smacks on my shoulder were NOT to go a 'bit' faster then?

More likely squashing the bugs that land on a safe place......:laugh:

[yungatart]

Rather partial to curried sausages. And I always carry a few beers in the BMW saddlebags.

Auckland to Napier, 400+ km. And some slow bits to get through, plus a fuel stop. I'd reckon a good 4 hours. And allow a bit for finding the house. Say 10pm I reckon.

But I'm not coming if that greedy little hXc fella's gonna eat all the sausages before I get there.
Will you be requiring a bed? You may have to share with Busa Pete.... I'm rather partial to a Gweurtz (sp) with a curry, can you pick up a couple of bottles please? See you soon - and ride safe, ya hear!
hXc is many things - but greedy is not one of them!


Ahh, the old "my penis is bigger than your penis" comeback.

Since I don't have one at all, I'd hope that his would be bigger....LOL

So those smacks on my shoulder were NOT to go a 'bit' faster then?

That depends - were you talking about the ride or... back to the kitchen, I think..

[Scouse]

Ahh, the old "my penis is bigger than your penis" comeback.
Dont scrape your knuckles on the ground mate.Oh mentioning a el250 must have hit a nerve and no it wasn't a "my penis is bigger than your penis comback" Crum cos she would just comback and clame that her arse was bigger than mine

[SuperDave]

what we should do is setup an underground section on the forum and you can only access it if your known to squirt it open a bit and dont want the fuzzy muff to know. stuff like ride meets and thursday night stuff should only be available to people that you know and that are not cops and enjoy a good ride not worring about the cops knowing your exact route. it would be almost another little club . you have to be nominated by some one that knows your not a cop and likes a bit of action. just a suggestion for the moderators.

Maybe we should just make the site unviewable to unregistered users and put a large easy to read clause before signing up where it says you can't sign up if you are affiliated with the police and are wanting to use our site as a method of targeting organised rides.

Not that it would stop the cops, they would probably sign up despite the clause and use the info to help them source more revenue gathering events. They would then just lie and claim they had never heard of KB.

Best bet, is learn to ride with your brain - time and place.

[yungatart]

Oh mentioning a el250 must have hit a nerve and no it wasn't a "my penis is bigger than your penis comback" Crum

Aaah but I could change my bike really easily, pity you couldn't say the same about your a***hole attitude..:sunny:

[MSTRS]

More likely squashing the bugs that land on a safe place......:laugh:

Ahh...a funny guy eh?:bleh: awae n beil yeir heid

[Ixion]

Will you be requiring a bed? You may have to share with Busa Pete......

Oh my. Sorry count me out. No way, not after what Maurice has told me. I mean, I'd have to ride back the next day, no fun having to ride 400km standing up!

[yungatart]

They tell me the trick is to r-e-l-a-x and b-r-e-a-t-h-e slowly... you are far too tense.
I'm disappointed, Ixion... they are great sausages and I'm sure you would enjoy the experience.....

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Oh my. Sorry count me out. No way, not after what Maurice has told me. I mean, I'd have to ride back the next day, no fun having to ride 400km standing up!

Don't worry Mrs busa pete is coming as well so would have to share the bed as well. And who is maurice

[WINJA]

Give a guy four hours max on bike lessons and he will be able to go fast in a straight line; throw in a couple of corners and that's the trick.

Anyone can go fast in a straight line. :scooter:

WTF RETARD YOU OWN A SHITTER FFS SO HOW CAN YOU GO FAST ANYWHERE

[Mrs Busa Pete]

They tell me the trick is to r-e-l-a-x and b-r-e-a-t-h-e slowly... you are far too tense.
I'm disappointed, Ixion... they are great sausages and I'm sure you would enjoy the experience.....

He can get his own bl...y sausage leave mine alone

[yungatart]

Don't worry Mrs busa pete is coming as well so would have to share the bed as well. And who is maurice

Great, the more the merrier! And if you find out who Maurice is, drag him along too. BTW, shouldn't you have left already! And since Ixion has begged off, can you please bring the wine AND the beer, ta :love:

[mikey]

whats the point in speeding....get you there 2 mins earlier.......late for your funeral?
somebody give me a good reason
its actually a good thing to be as late as possible for your own funeral.
all those 2 and 20 minutes add up in teh end,
could be another year or three in the end.
speed on

[yungatart]

He can get his own bl...y sausage leave mine alone

Setle, petal, I was going to give him hxc's...

[Ixion]

Mrs Busa Pete - He can get his own bl...y sausage leave mine alone

Goodness. Maurice understated it. :devil2:

[hXc]

its actually a good thing to be as late as possible for your own funeral.
all those 2 and 20 minutes add up in teh end,
could be another year or three in the end.
speed on
Once you get past the shit in this guy, he has some logic in some of his posts. . .

Strange? Maybe.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Great, the more the merrier! And if you find out who Maurice is, drag him along too. BTW, shouldn't you have left already! And since Ixion has begged off, can you please bring the wine AND the beer, ta :love:

Petes trying to get hold of maurice while we wait we are drinking the wine and beer hope some are left by the time we leave.

[Toast]

bacon and toast also tomatoes thanks

I am in no way associated with the Bacon, please watch what you say.

[yungatart]

Petes trying to get hold of maurice while we wait we are drinking the wine and beer hope some are left by the time we leave.

Chances are, if the wine and the beer are all gone, so will the sausages be.. better hurry (without speeding, of course), hXc says he's hungry..:yes:

[Toast]

My opinion is that it IS dangerous to be doing those speeds on an open road where innocent people are tootling along mind their own business,

Good point, when there's no oncoming traffic, you're sweet :) That's how I see it too.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Goodness. Maurice understated it. :devil2:

So who is maurice ???? you know you want to

[yungatart]

So who is maurice ???? you know you want to

I fear that is privileged information, for only Ixion to know.....the rest of us can only imagine:sick:

[Ixion]

No indeed. He's Dover's "special friend" not mine.

[yungatart]

Of course, Ixion, and we believe you totally. :love:

[skidMark]

Maybe we should just make the site unviewable to unregistered users and put a large easy to read clause before signing up where it says you can't sign up if you are affiliated with the police and are wanting to use our site as a method of targeting organised rides.

Not that it would stop the cops, they would probably sign up despite the clause and use the info to help them source more revenue gathering events. They would then just lie and claim they had never heard of KB.

Best bet, is learn to ride with your brain - time and place.

saw your old zxr in wellsford today dave :yes:

[BarBender]

...Best bet, is learn to ride with your brain - time and place.

Thats why I went to the Coromandel. :msn-wink:

[Edbear]

What she said :yes:




Yes, Mommy! I be a good boy, honest....!:yes:


:innocent:

[Finn]

I think 200+kph on anyroad has got to be pushing it - keep those kind of speeds for the track - they don't belong on the roads.

So 135 on Richmond Rd this afternoon is okay then? Was under 200.

[SwanTiger]

The last few times I've ridden SH16 there have been more livestock on the roads than there are Highway Patrol units. There are some lovely straights where I am sure someone could do 250 kmp/h + safely.

The fact that the Cop was gloating about catching 6 bikers on the Thursday night is a bit fucked up. Andy Caird was his name wasn't it? Utter lying scummy filth, he deserves some special attention.

[skidMark]

So 135 on Richmond Rd this afternoon is okay then? Was under 200.

i hear mv's start breaking stuff anywhere over 65

[Edbear]

Went Coatesville/Riverhead then Farmers onto Peak to Helensville before heading up 16 to Wellsford yesterday. Not one Cop on the whole trip until coming back down SH1 from Wellsford when I saw one only.

(The Coatesville Rd is boring at 80km/h but too many "tractors" driven by incompetents, anyway).:stupid:

My concern with these kind of speeds is the public that use the roads. I came across two actual tractors, one on Peak Rd. and one on SH16 just plodding along minding their own business at about 30km/h. Had I been doing anywhere near the speeds on this thread, I could be a statistic now. I posted months ago that I knew a biker back in the 70's who died crashing into the back of a tractor as he came around the corner at about 130km/h. Had no chance!:bye:

I've had people pull out from driveways in front of me. Even in my truck which is far easier to see than my bike! I tend to agree with the sentiments of those who advocate the track as the best place to "see what she'll do", (That's the bike, by the way...:yes: )

[arj127]

rode along there this morning, bloody nice ride it was too. Had no need to go past one sixty, one ten most of the time just lapping up the nice bendy road that it is. Saw the blue cop car and bike, dont know how they caught him if he was going that fast.

[Finn]

i hear mv's start breaking stuff anywhere over 65

Yeah, they're called records.

[cowpoos]

Yeah, they're called records.
you bike hav a sound system??

[Finn]

you bike hav a sound system??

Go Finnie, Go Finnie...

[padre]

Sit up - wake up - cold shower time. You all gotta be alert. Do you who admit to "things" know Police are watching. They can check your isp number and track your location, big brother - its not just a reality show. NORML had problems other day. Police are busting people who arrange drug deals there on the website. Then they come on site and say "ha ha - we got you". Its not even funny the lack of privacy. So please be careful what is disclosed here. If they know who likes 200k or over they can send these road safety observers to follow you I should think.

[cowpoos]

Go Finnie, Go Finnie...
is that flippers latest single?

[hXc]

Sit up - wake up - cold shower time. You all gotta be alert. Do you who admit to "things" know Police are watching. They can check your isp number and track your location, big brother - its not just a reality show. NORML had problems other day. Police are busting people who arrange drug deals there on the website. Then they come on site and say "ha ha - we got you". Its not even funny the lack of privacy. So please be careful what is disclosed here. If they know who likes 200k or over they can send these road safety observers to follow you I should think.
The thing is, the cops have no proof. Without physical evidence, they don't know the truth from a fucking banana. Even with evidence they seem to fuck things up. You cannot be arrested or charged with anything from claims of stuff you've done on the internet.

[BarBender]

Sit up - wake up - cold shower time. You all gotta be alert. Do you who admit to "things" know Police are watching. They can check your isp number and track your location, big brother - its not just a reality show. NORML had problems other day. Police are busting people who arrange drug deals there on the website. Then they come on site and say "ha ha - we got you". Its not even funny the lack of privacy. So please be careful what is disclosed here. If they know who likes 200k or over they can send these road safety observers to follow you I should think.

"The thought police would get him just the same. He had committed—would have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper—the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you."

[Squiggles]

215 is just silly, just because you can doesnt give you the right to. or dont bitch when you are following the law and someone doesnt give way to you... they were selective about the law, just as you are, they just chose to do it differently.

[The_Dover]

Most pigs don't know an orange from a banana.

Luckily chimpanzees do.

[Finn]

215 is just silly, just because you can doesnt give you the right to. or dont bitch when you are following the law and someone doesnt give way to you... they were selective about the law, just as you are, they just chose to do it differently.

If it's okay for the PM, it's fine by me.

[SuperDave]

saw your old zxr in wellsford today dave :yes:

Holy shit!? Really? how'd you know it was mine?

[Patrick]

.. they would probably sign up despite the clause and use the info to help them source more revenue..

Like we do now? Yep, we sign in, see where you're going and get out there to catch ya... :zzzz:

Nah, I make myself cruise on the other side of town...:innocent:

[Patrick]

The last few times I've ridden SH16 there have been more livestock on the roads than there are Highway Patrol units. There are some lovely straights where I am sure someone could do 250 kmp/h + safely.

The fact that the Cop was gloating about catching 6 bikers on the Thursday night is a bit fucked up. Andy Caird was his name wasn't it? Utter lying scummy filth, he deserves some special attention.

Yep, go flying around a corner at big speeds and there they are, right in your lane, no where to go for you... Darwin awards.

Doesn't sound like the Andy I know... hard worker, good bloke... not a biker tho...

[SuperDave]

Like we do now? Yep, we sign in, see where you're going and get out there to catch ya... :zzzz:

Nah, I make myself cruise on the other side of town...:innocent:

Then you're a good one.
I'm just a bit pissed off with the double standards of our police force - seeing mufti cops blatantly exceed the speed limit in both a 60 zone and a 50 zone by over 20kph has just left me a bit sour. I really wouldn't care but I do because I've heard of mates who have been pinged going 15kph over the speed limit on the motorway where the conditions were perfect with little traffic.

Maybe you or another can answer me, why are there so many mufti cops?
Do the mufti cops have radar?

[granma2]

Nah, before Sh16 got so popular and plod-ridden there were bits where 200 odd was reasonable enough.

But for the last couple of years its been overrun by Ethels and Plods.

yep have notice that.
SH 16, hot dry day, long staight, no cars, 235km, two up on a sv 1000. What a buzz!....but, sadly those days are gone.
They are trying to get more cars travelling that road and we bikers know what that means!!!!!!! more cops and less quick riding places for us.
As for alternative routes....yes well they just dont have the same combinations of twisties and straights now do they.
Best solution is a front runner with eagle eyes and a RADAR DETECTOR.
This has saved our arses heaps of times.

[SwanTiger]

Yep, go flying around a corner at big speeds and there they are, right in your lane, no where to go for you... Darwin awards.

Doesn't sound like the Andy I know... hard worker, good bloke... not a biker tho...
Nah there are two parts on SH16 which are big and open flats with farm on either side and you can see the road for 1 or 2 km. I personally wouldn't do over 140 - 160 up there in the straights as I've come around corners at 80 - 110 and had to dodge sheep and fresh road kill. Just ain't worth it for such a boring road (apart from a few places where its twisty).

But as I mentioned, lots of big long straights that are very safe to speed on, nice seal, wide road, paddocks either side, good flat view of the road for at least 1 KM. It's not unsafe. But its not legal. So its a risk. Just pointing out how 120 - 150 kmp/h on one of those long straights is perfectly safe for most motorcyclist but will often end up with you losing some valuable plastic.

There are still the gravel roads that go up between SH16 and SH1 which are even better and you can happily and safely do 100 kmp/h in some parts which is why I have a naked bike now, much more practical.

[Patrick]

... seeing mufti cops blatantly exceed the speed limit in both a 60 zone and a 50 zone by over 20kph...

Maybe you or another can answer me, why are there so many mufti cops?
Do the mufti cops have radar?

People complain down these parts and there is a please explain by the bosses...

Nah... there is only one. Its a conspiracy I tells ya

[sensible maniac]

too fast.

somebody recently told me something about if it's over 200 or something that they lock you up.

O.K. you all need to know, Speeding is ok if it's a cop or priminister. its not the amount of how many ks over, it's speeding period. i persononally know the guy in question. he does not take part in forums, or go to bike clubs bragging on ability or how long he has been riding.

he got caught because he slowed for his mates and did not realise the cop car was in pursuit as he did not drive with the siren on.

he asses the situation of how heavy or light the traffic is, weather conditions, and road surface etc and what the dangers they present at the time. he is not proud of the speed he was caught at and will not not bitch or moan at the length of ban or fine he receives.

for those of you out there who choose to judge him either to fast, or dangerous etc dont do it until you know him, or ride with him. in his defence all i can say is this guy can ride better on one wheel at high speed than most people can on two.

oh and over 200 is not an instant lock up, it just makes the cops day.

[SuperDave]

People complain down these parts and there is a please explain by the bosses...

Nah... there is only one. Its a conspiracy I tells ya

Guess that's exactly the kind of response I should have expected.

[skidMark]

Holy shit!? Really? how'd you know it was mine?

well it was plain green fairings no graphics with a black tail middle bit and black bit down the tank sure as hell looked like yours...

i'm really sure it was after seeing piccys of yours

[Swoop]

Do the mufti cops have radar?
Yes.

Just like the marked patrol cars, some do, some don't...
However - "yes" is the answer you are looking for!

[scumdog]

Maybe you or another can answer me, why are there so many mufti cops?
Do the mufti cops have radar?

Both ours do, although they're often used by non-traffic, non-sworn types.

But on the whole I think as was mentioned earlier there is too much 'the sky is falling, the sky is falling' here....

[SuperDave]

Yes.

Just like the marked patrol cars, some do, some don't...
However - "yes" is the answer you are looking for!

True I wanted to hear 'yes' because it supports my current feelings.
But if I'm told otherwise and the information seems valid I won't argue it or just pretend I never heard it.

I personally don't understand why there are so many mufti cops other than to make it easier to ping people for speeding. I drive around Auckland for my job during the week and I often see more mufti cops than I do marked.

I guess having radar in a mufti car obviously proves it's purpose.
If mufti cops did not have radars then I would understand, there's no point wasting money on police markings and top lights if the car is being used by a detective or a senior officer (If they are provided cars, I don't know).

[scumdog]

True I wanted to hear 'yes' because it supports my current feelings.
But if I'm told otherwise and the information seems valid I won't argue it or just pretend I never heard it.

I personally don't understand why there are so many mufti cops other than to make it easier to ping people for speeding. I drive around Auckland for my job during the week and I often see more mufti cops than I do marked.

I guess having radar in a mufti car obviously proves it's purpose.
If mufti cops did not have radars then I would understand, there's no point wasting money on police markings and top lights if the car is being used by a detective or a senior officer (If they are provided cars, I don't know).

The 'mufti' cop you see may be a detective (the most likely one), a firearms instructor, a crash investigator, somebody taking it for servicing or a whole lot of other reason for being on the road other than doing traffic.

[Finn]

The 'mufti' cop you see may be a detective (the most likely one), a firearms instructor, a crash investigator, somebody taking it for servicing or a whole lot of other reason for being on the road other than doing traffic.

You forgot helping old ladies cross the road.

[SwanTiger]

I was browsing through the 'management' chart for the Waitakere, North Shore and Rodney area and came across one fella I'm sure was the old dude who turned up in the second mufti on thursday night.

His title is Special Projects Manager or something along those lines.

I presume he would be the one who would instigate a "blitz" on speeding bikers in a specific area? Come up with the intelligence to hand out to traffic officers to go out and do the work and acheive the results he wants to make the project a success?

Just curious... if any of the Police can or want to elaborate on that and if its a common thing in most districts.

[Finn]

Oi thats my job!

I thought you picked them up off the road.

[Big Dave]

I thought you picked them up off the road.

Cruising round mission bay with his arm out the window. 'gday - there's a bed in the back'

[Ixion]

Does that suggest that busting bikers has been made a Special Project? Which would be rather sinister.

[boomer]

Choose wisely and get some help ..a detector puts you on a more even footing.


coming north into Hamilton last thursday, radar on, 2 HP cars all using instant on and checking regularly. We came out of a 100 into a 50 and i brake like a bitch on the 50 sign only to have Beyond go slingshot past me.. the copper up front must have been laughing his tits off .. i was.

my RADAR has paid for itself;that accompanied by a bit of 'choose wisely' and mother luck. To the revenue collecting fuckers out there, watchin, i say :finger:

[SuperDave]

The 'mufti' cop you see may be a detective (the most likely one), a firearms instructor, a crash investigator, somebody taking it for servicing or a whole lot of other reason for being on the road other than doing traffic.

Fair enough, all of which should not require radar revenuing collecting devices.

[sAsLEX]

Give a guy four hours max on bike lessons and he will be able to go fast in a straight line; throw in a couple of corners and that's the trick.

Anyone can go fast in a straight line. :scooter:

SO how come you ping them for squirtin it on the straights instead of ticketing them for poor cornering technique that would more likely lead to an accident.............................revenue!?

[SuperDave]

Traffic only has access to 1 mufti car in Auckland Central.

Okay, so that would be the blue 636 then?
So no other mufti cops in Auckland other than that one have radar?

I'm genuinly asking, because personally I havn't really looked out for wether the mufti cops I see have radar or not, they all have a bunch of shit on the dash but at a quick glance it's hard to tell wether it's only a radio or if it's also a radar unit too.

I think from now on I will be making an effort to see if the ones I do see have radar or not. Then I know first hand.

[sAsLEX]

Then you're a good one.
I'm just a bit pissed off with the double standards of our police force - seeing mufti cops blatantly exceed the speed limit in both a 60 zone and a 50 zone by over 20kph has just left me a bit sour. I really wouldn't care but I do because I've heard of mates who have been pinged going 15kph over the speed limit on the motorway where the conditions were perfect with little traffic.

Maybe you or another can answer me, why are there so many mufti cops?
Do the mufti cops have radar?

I had the best one the other day!

Mufti runs a red light, About the third car in the red light running queue so I push infront of him as he was also blocking an intersection and the dumb fuck tooted at me! Mr go on the green semi law abiding ME! When he was sitting there breaking two laws all cause he could and no one can touch him fucker

[SuperDave]

There is only one car with a radar device at central that is mufti. Probably have about 40-60ish plain cars without radar depending on what operations are on and squads are working.

My post before was done before reading your post.
I hear what you're saying.

[SwanTiger]

Okay, so that would be the blue 636 then?
So no other mufti cops in Auckland other than that one have radar?

I'm genuinly asking, because personally I havn't really looked out for wether the mufti cops I see have radar or not, they all have a bunch of shit on the dash but at a quick glance it's hard to tell wether it's only a radio or if it's also a radar unit too.

I think from now on I will be making an effort to see if the ones I do see have radar or not. Then I know first hand.
He said "Auckland Central".

There is a navy Holden and Silver HSV that I have seen on Rodney roads as well as that blue Mazda - all doing traffic duty. You can usually see the radar equipment through the front or rear window.

[SuperDave]

I had the best one the other day!

Mufti runs a red light, About the third car in the red light running queue so I push infront of him as he was also blocking an intersection and the dumb fuck tooted at me! Mr go on the green semi law abiding ME! When he was sitting there breaking two laws all cause he could and no one can touch him fucker

That's fucken bullshit.
You know the funniest thing about the two cops speeding in the mufit car?
It was that they both had dark shades on and the passenger was slouching in his chair with it leaning back - Maybe he thought he was in Miami Vice or in some other shit.

[SuperDave]

He said "Auckland Central".

There is a navy Holden and Silver HSV that I have seen on Rodney roads as well as that blue Mazda - all doing traffic duty. You can usually see the radar equipment through the front or rear window.

Maybe all the mufti's with radar park in a separate station. That way negative claims against the cops with regards to this can easily be answered without lying by saying there's only one at 'Auckland Central' and just omitting the fact that there are 20 at Auckland Sub-Central or whatever.

This was a semi pisstake/sarcasm. Don't go inferno anyone.

[SwanTiger]

That's fucken bullshit.
You know the funniest thing about the two cops speeding in the mufit car?
It was that they both had dark shades on and the passenger was slouching in his chair with it leaning back - Maybe he thought he was in Miami Vice or in some other shit.
Hey dude don't be jealous, we all wanna be in Miami Vice.

[Ixion]

Only hp have mazdas....


That's worth knowing.

[Michaelt]

The 'mufti' cop you see may be a detective (the most likely one), a firearms instructor, a crash investigator, somebody taking it for servicing or a whole lot of other reason for being on the road other than doing traffic.

I thought the firearms instructors were Mountain Safety Council volunteers, not cops. Didn't think they'd get to use police vehicles.

Thought the same about crash investigators, thought most of them were independent.

Not that any of it's relevant.

[sAsLEX]

Only hp have mazdas, ive never worked hp si i dont know. Its not the radio it will be the lights and siren controls your mistaking for a radar unit.

<img src=http://www.stalkerradar.com/images/2x_banner.jpg>

Ummmm these dont look much like lights or a radio

[sAsLEX]

You thinking of buying one?

secret to warfare is to know ones enemy

[SwanTiger]

I've got nothing to worry about now, just ordered a new Gold Wing and am filling out the application form to join the Uylesess (or however its spelt) Motorcycle Club as we speak.

[SuperDave]

I've got nothing to worry about now, just ordered a new Gold Wing and am filling out the application form to join the Uylesess (or however its spelt) Motorcycle Club as we speak.

You need to be 40 first.

[sAsLEX]

Oh and thats not the NZ Police radar system in that photo.

Our display box's are smaller and only read one speed at a time.

The white things are what you see though and they are similar enough

[The_Dover]

Our display box's are smaller and only read one speed at a time.

Then how can some cunt ping me and my mate at the same time?

[Squeak the Rat]

Mufti runs a red light, About the third car in the red light running queue so I push infront of him as he was also blocking an intersection and the dumb fuck tooted at me! Mr go on the green semi law abiding ME! When he was sitting there breaking two laws all cause he could and no one can touch him fucker

Yeah that pisses me off. Next time I see a cop breaking the law like that I'm going to get his rego number and report him to http://www.police.govt.nz/service/road/roadwatch.html. Nothing will happen but at least I'll get a laugh out of it.....

[WRT]

I went up to Woodhill with the CR on Sat morning, the blue Mazda6 was just south of Rimmers Road dealing with an accident there. Didnt look for a radar, but was surprised to see a cop using that model of car. Also have to wonder how he caught a guy doing 215 on a sports bike! Maybe those Mazda's shuffle along a bit quicker than you'd expect . . .

[McJim]

Sorry ours have three little displays; one on the left i think does the speed of nearby cars, one in the middle does the speed of car going the fastest speed on and the final one is the patrol car speed.

I meant that ours cant do both back and front at the same time.:Oops:

Hey dude, you've had us all going for a while....but you're really one of those shopping centre security guards that always wanted to be a policeman aren't you?...go on..admit it! Now you've got a forum and an audience - you just couldn't resist it! We'll foirgive you if you 'fess up now.

You makin' all this up or have you got magazines for reference?

Has anyone met Dynamytus50? Or is he just The_Dover's alter ego....hmmmm...2 logins/2 opposite viewpoints.....possibility.

[McJim]

I went up to Woodhill with the CR on Sat morning, the blue Mazda6 was just south of Rimmers Road dealing with an accident there. Didnt look for a radar, but was surprised to see a cop using that model of car. Also have to wonder how he caught a guy doing 215 on a sports bike! Maybe those Mazda's shuffle along a bit quicker than you'd expect . . .

I'll be perfectly honest - I'm disgusted that the cops use these gas guzzling Commodores with Engines greater than 2 Litres. If they used sensible cars like Mondeos or Vectras they'd save enough money to pay police a decent wage hence getting a decent standard of officer and even have enough left over for some extra policemen.

I'm pleased they have diversified their fleet finally.

There are other countries in the world that fare perfectly well without big block engines.

[Filterer]

Nope both Dover and Dyna, are real and very seperate people, met them both me self! Although they do share one thing in common.. One of there names is the same.

Both at the same time.....?

[spudchucka]

I thought the firearms instructors were Mountain Safety Council volunteers, not cops. Didn't think they'd get to use police vehicles.

Thought the same about crash investigators, thought most of them were independent.

Not that any of it's relevant.

The Mountain safety people are involved in testing firearms licence applicants, they have nothing to do with training police staff in firearms use, the police employ trained instructors for that purpose.

[spudchucka]

SO how come you ping them for squirtin it on the straights instead of ticketing them for poor cornering technique that would more likely lead to an accident.............................revenue!?

Whats the offence for having poor cornering technique?

"Failed to nail the apex"?

"Went in hot and ran it wide on the exit"?

[Patrick]

lol no they are employed by the Police. I think the civillian gun licencing guys are mountain safety volunteers.

Our one here is an ex AOS Sgt...

[Patrick]

When he was sitting there breaking two laws all cause he could and no one can touch him fucker

Only when no one complains to his boss...

[Patrick]

Guess that's exactly the kind of response I should have expected.

ROFL...

There are heaps of plain cars, used for other things, as pointed out. CIB tip people out all the time and they dont know what a ticket book looks like, let alone have radar. HP will have a few too, but down here there are only 2... in Auckland I would expect a few more, but only a few...a couple at the Shore, a couple out West and a couple for HP.

[sAsLEX]

Whats the offence for having poor cornering technique?

"Failed to nail the apex"?

"Went in hot and ran it wide on the exit"?

Both more dangerous than 111!

[Lou Girardin]

Lol lots of bikers come of on straights

Really? Got the figures?
Because anecdotal evidence from this site alone says you're wrong.

[Lou Girardin]

Best way is to look for the radar tubes in the corners.

Are you really a cop?
All the rear antennas I've seen are mounted dead centre.

[Lou Girardin]

Sorry ours have three little displays; one on the left i think does the speed of nearby cars, one in the middle does the speed of car going the fastest speed on and the final one is the patrol car speed.

I meant that ours cant do both back and front at the same time.:Oops:

Fastest speed and strongest return signal.
Jeez D50, I hope you don't do much traffic. Do the traffic guys get more training than you've had?

[tl_tub]

Sorry ours have three little displays; one on the left i think does the speed of nearby cars, one in the middle does the speed of car going the fastest speed on and the final one is the patrol car speed.
I meant that ours cant do both back and front at the same time.:Oops:

The stalker x2 has 6 windows! Try using that and driving at the same time! :)

[WINJA]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=321708&postcount=30

MAYBE THEY SWAP THESE CARS AROUND THE COUNTRY TO KEEP US GUESING , THEY HAD SOME NISSAN 200SX A WHILE AGO AS WELL

[sensible maniac]

There are a couple of things which bother me in this country, 1/ how come speeding drivers / riders are treated far worse than drink drivers.

2/ how come there are shit loads of mufti cops out there sat in lay byes etc wasting time which should be spent seeking the killers of those baby twins. (what the fcku happened to that case anyway?

it should be those bastar*s in court not some biker only trying to put a smile on his face.

[WINJA]

There are a couple of things which bother me in this country, 1/ how come speeding drivers / riders are treated far worse than drink drivers.

2/ how come there are shit loads of mufti cops out there sat in lay byes etc wasting time which should be spent seeking the killers of those baby twins. (what the fcku happened to that case anyway?

it should be those bastar*s in court not some biker only trying to put a smile on his face.

GOOD QUESTIONS , GREEN BLING ON THE WAY

[kro]

What's this?, Police on a public road?. The very idea is proposterous.

[scumdog]

No im FBI.

All the rear atennas at central are mounted in the right corner so an officer can park on the side of the road and angle the radar tube toward's traffic.

Means that if you park in front of another parked car you dont have to send the radar signal through the car behind.

Guess you learn something new everyday Lou lol. :yes:

EDIT: actually there is one with a centrally mounted radar cause nautec ran out of the brackets for the corner mounted ones.

I'm with him - they're fitted right hand side of the car down here for the same reasons Dynamytus50 says, which also works when using the truck ahead as a mobile 'mai-mai' (or whatever you North Islanders call them).

[scumdog]

There are a couple of things which bother me in this country, 1/ how come speeding drivers / riders are treated far worse than drink drivers.

2/ how come there are shit loads of mufti cops out there sat in lay byes etc wasting time which should be spent seeking the killers of those baby twins. (what the fcku happened to that case anyway?

it should be those bastar*s in court not some biker only trying to put a smile on his face.

1/ Never knew they WERE treated worse?

2/ If you ask a dumb question like that I'll give you a dumb answer:- 'cos the twin are already dead but drivers are not and they're trying to stop them from being so.

[Lou Girardin]

Doesnt matter I only ever looked at the fastest speed, never tried to go for more than one car.


Are you absolutely sure that the cars you stopped were the fastest?

[Lou Girardin]

Lou, drop it man, the guy is a normal police officer, he has nothing to do with traffic. Only when forced to during newbie days. Hes actually dealing to proper crime. Give him a break man, hes a good guy, and rides a bike (even though its a Honda... give him shit about that)

Yeah thanks speedie, did I forget the 'wind-up' smilies so you'd get it?

[Edbear]

Are you absolutely sure that the cars you stopped were the fastest?



Certainly if they were Ferrari's and Porche's and such like....:yes:

[spudchucka]

Both more dangerous than 111!

The point is that there is no offence for poor cornering technique.

Crossing the centre line can be considered prima facie careless driving though but poor cornering technique is not an offence.

[spudchucka]

Fastest speed and strongest return signal.
Jeez D50, I hope you don't do much traffic. Do the traffic guys get more training than you've had?

Drop it man, he's said before in other threads that he doesn't even have a stalker in the car he uses.

[spudchucka]

There are a couple of things which bother me in this country, 1/ how come speeding drivers / riders are treated far worse than drink drivers.

2/ how come there are shit loads of mufti cops out there sat in lay byes etc wasting time which should be spent seeking the killers of those baby twins. (what the fcku happened to that case anyway?

it should be those bastar*s in court not some biker only trying to put a smile on his face.

1:
You get caught speeding its an instant fine and demerit points, over +40 and its a 28 day licence suspension too, over +50 and its a court appearance on a fine only charge. A dangerous speed charge is possible if its +50 and the circumstances of the offence are particularly dangerous.

You get caught drink driving and its a court appearance, possible prison term, mandatory 6 months disqualification and a fine. The penalties increase for third and subsequent offences plus recidivists stand to have the vehicles confiscated and face likley indefinite disqualification.


2:
Murder is an offence that is investigated by trained Criminal Investigation Branch Detectives. There is no point assigning traffic cops to investigate murder.

Any more stupid questions?

[SwanTiger]

Crossing the centre line can be considered prima facie careless driving though but poor cornering technique is not an offence.
I did that at an intersection, pulled up next to a bunch of other riders and was slightly over the line while waiting to proceed.

I don't see how it was careless, but I accepted the fine because I did do it.

Poor cornering technique fines are a great idea, the Police would make a tidy sum watching KB rides ...

[McJim]

Hey hondas rock buddy :yes:

Mine doesn't - fix your suspension

[ManDownUnder]

What was this thread about again - cops on SH16?

I mean... it's like complaining about the number of ants in a sugar bowl, or Catholics at the Vatican.

It's a given. SH16 = cop magnet. If we stop speeding on SH16, the cops will go elsewhere... ... so don't hold high hopes of the cops leaving SH16...

[sAsLEX]

The point is that there is no offence for poor cornering technique.

Crossing the centre line can be considered prima facie careless driving though but poor cornering technique is not an offence.

My point is that this illustrates the narrow mindness , not of the cops, but the powers that be in thinking only terminal velocity effects the outcome/likelyness of an accident and therefor only charge for that rather than people who stray over their lane corner poorly etc.

[sAsLEX]

It is one factor in road crashes, roads are another, drink driving, mechanical defaults are others. Police are only tasked with drink driving, sometimes mechanical defaults when we see cars that aren't up to standard and write them off the road, and speed enforcement.

They wont give us diggers and steam rollers to fix the roads :shifty:

You are also empowered to enforce the road rules!

Yet I seldom see people ticketed for U turning on symonds street even though this has resulted in death, people have no qualms with running red lights hell even a cop did it in front of me the other day. Through focussing on things like this other than speed the police could have a greater impact on road safety, I know bykey cop loves sitting at lights as he quickly gathers lots of "contacts" from all the red runners.

[ManDownUnder]

You are also empowered to enforce the road rules!

Yet I seldom see people ticketed for U turning on symonds street even though this has resulted in death, people have no qualms with running red lights hell even a cop did it in front of me the other day. Through focussing on things like this other than speed the police could have a greater impact on road safety, I know bykey cop loves sitting at lights as he quickly gathers lots of "contacts" from all the red runners.

I hear ya, and I agree with what you're saying, but I'm willing to bet he doesn't get to decide where or when he is to be deployed, or even given full access to all the stats in an attempt to make him better informed to make those decisions (because he ca't make them...)

Find some chiefs to yell at, not the indians...

[spudchucka]

My point is that this illustrates the narrow mindness , not of the cops, but the powers that be in thinking only terminal velocity effects the outcome/likelyness of an accident and therefor only charge for that rather than people who stray over their lane corner poorly etc.

Like I said, straying over the centre line is prima facie careless driving, people get charged for it, ask Swan Tiger.

Driver behaviour is what causes crashes, speeding is just one of those behaviours, if you saw the traffic charge precedent book and the huge range of offences you can be charged with you would be stunned.

[sAsLEX]

U turns arent illegal in New Zealand and if your referring to the yellow cbr600f4i that was taken out on symonds street and the rider killed, the driver of that vehicle WAS prosetcuted. I had the task to clean the rider up so i do know that case reasonably well :( The u turn wasnt illegal, but not checking both ways before doing it and as a result hitting another vehicle is.

Most cops will stop a red light runner however if we are preoccupied with finding an offender and doing areas, trying to stealth to a job or conducting urgent enquries i wont.

STU units in town man the intersections around town every morning and afternoon so as far as the Symonds Street area you dont think is policed for light runners - it is.

Yellow lines on Symonds St mate, is it not illegal to U turn across no crossing lines?? Not sure of the bike but this was before your time I think.

Every morning and afternoon?!? Seen them once, well actually two bike cops getting all the red runners at the bottom of Queen.

[The_Dover]

trying to stealth to a job

don't they smell the bacon from a mile off?


conducting urgent enquries

"Excuse me love, how much for the 12 pack of jelly donuts and a large latte?"

[SwanTiger]

Like I said, straying over the centre line is prima facie careless driving, people get charged for it, ask Swan Tiger.
The Cop who issued me the ticket was a biker and was extremely good about it, even let me off on a lot of other things. He was just concerned as a biker that if a car turned in unexpectedly and cut the corner or ran wide while coming through the intersection I would of been fucked.

That was a awesome display of discretion in my opinion and I learnt my lesson, ride faster than the other bikes so you can get a better spot at the intersection :innocent:

:dodge: P/T

How come Police do not proactively enforce this 'charge' upon more drivers?

Also I have a question. The places of which traffic officers park their vehicles, such as on State Highway 16, is there a requirement by law that it be public or part of the road? I'm just curious as I have seen HP's parked in gravel pits and private drive ways.

[sAsLEX]

The Cop who issued me the ticket was a biker and was extremely good about it, even let me off on a lot of other things. He was just concerned as a biker that if a car turned in unexpectedly and cut the corner or ran wide while coming through the intersection I would of been fucked.

That was a awesome display of discretion in my opinion and I learnt my lesson, ride faster than the other bikes so you can get a better spot at the intersection :innocent:

:dodge: P/T


So you lost your license for being in the wrong place in an intersection?

[McJim]

Police are allowed to park anywhere in the excecution of their duty .

By whom?

It's this sort of comment that riles me up - states "we're better than you" + "we have more rights than you" in my eyes - when did the police force in New Zealand forget that they're public servants FFS?

Sorry but I've been shutting up for ages and couldn't hold it in any more.

(edit) I've calmed down a bit now - maybe that's not what you intend to mean but it's how it sounded to me - I'd find it a bit more refreshing if the police posted as themselves with their own opinions rather than always posting the official position as seems to be the case and if they didn't brag about "waving a Glock" at some P head. C'mon - you don't catch me talking about Advertising all day do you?

[SwanTiger]

So you lost your license for being in the wrong place in an intersection?
No.

I was pulled over by a blue mufti vehicle on Old North Road when I organised a 250cc ride up to Mangawhai.

He had followed the group of bikes from State Highway 16 and stated he was just "making sure we were behaving", which we were.

I had my license suspended for doing (a disputed) 132 kmp/h in the 80 kmp/h zone along Old North Road while on a ride.

I wasn't approached by a Police officer until approximately 1 hour and 20 kilometers later, who took my license.

The careless charge was justified, but considering it was my first traffic related offence I would of hoped for just a telling off. Instead I got both :shit:


Police are allowed to park anywhere in the excecution of their duty .
Ah cool, curiosity satisfied.

EDIT: One thing people seem to confuse is that I wasn't on my GTR at the time, I was on my Girl friends GV 250 cruiser when I lost my license. If I was on my GTR I wouldn't of been stuck at the back of the ride and wouldn't be in this predicament. Lesson learnt, remove number plate and ride faster and don't stop when you see flashing blue lights :nya:

[sAsLEX]

I had my license suspended for doing (a disputed) 132 kmp/h in the 80 kmp/h zone along Old North Road while on a ride.

I wasn't approached by a Police officer until approximately 1 hour and 20 kilometers later, who took my license.

The careless charge was justified, but considering it was my first traffic related offence I would of hoped for just a telling off. Instead I got both :shit:


Ah cool, curiosity satisfied.

What poppy cock, if it was dangerous he should of pulled you then and there as this is how the justify ticketing etc (speed is dangerous), he should of stopped you straight away for your careless driving incase you had gone on to cause injury to other members of the public.

Would the cop be liable , morally or legally , if you had gone on to kill a bus load or little kiddies cause he was trying to catch you doing something else?!

[Scouse]

you don't catch me talking about Advertising all day do you?I just have now though

[McJim]

D50 - you might want to edit that a bit - sounds as though you're repeating yourself buddy.

[McJim]

I just have now though

Ach - ye got me...richt enuff!

[Croft]

Yeah yeah... cheers for the heads up!! Heading out that way on Sunday!

[McJim]

cant have to much information lol :yes:

When are you going to come round for a beer dude?

And what's up with your bike?

[Big Dave]

if you saw the traffic charge precedent book and the huge range of offences you can be charged with you would be stunned.

How can we view it? Freedom information etc?
I'd love to publish some of it.

To that end I have been trying to contact Noreen Heggarty for over a month - I'd like to ask for some data for Kiwi Rider - I have a mobile no - but it just has a 'not available' recording.

Anybody else do Media Liason for Traffic?

[scumdog]

By whom?

It's this sort of comment that riles me up - states "we're better than you" + "we have more rights than you" in my eyes - when did the police force in New Zealand forget that they're public servants FFS?

Sorry but I've been shutting up for ages and couldn't hold it in any more.

(edit) I've calmed down a bit now - maybe that's not what you intend to mean but it's how it sounded to me - I'd find it a bit more refreshing if the police posted as themselves with their own opinions rather than always posting the official position as seems to be the case and if they didn't brag about "waving a Glock" at some P head. C'mon - you don't catch me talking about Advertising all day do you?

Now-now McJim, you wouldn't want to give the nay-sayers MORE ammo by having cops say "Sorry love, woulda been here about 20 minutes earlier but I couldn't find a park that wasn't on the grass/on a yellow line/near an intersection etc etc" would you?? :innocent:

[spudchucka]

Also I have a question. The places of which traffic officers park their vehicles, such as on State Highway 16, is there a requirement by law that it be public or part of the road? I'm just curious as I have seen HP's parked in gravel pits and private drive ways.

In the lawful execution of their duty police can park their vehicles anywhere they need to.

Part of the definition of "road" in the land transport act says "anywhere that the public has access to whether by right or not". Driveways, vehicle access lanes, gravel pits etc are all roads under the act.

[spudchucka]

when did the police force in New Zealand forget that they're public servants FFS?They are serving you, the public, through the enforcement of the road rules.


I'd find it a bit more refreshing if the police posted as themselves with their own opinions rather than always posting the official position as seems to be the caseDid you ever consider the possibility that what the site cops post could be their own opinions based on their experiences?


brag about "waving a Glock" at some P head.Pretty much all the talk of police use of firearms has been as a result of site cops correcting misleading, ill-informed bullshit posts on that subject, I don't recall ever reading a site cop boasting about waving a glock at anybody, (we might joke about it but we aren't unique in doing that on this site). I've only ever had to aim a firearm at one person and I hope like hell that I never have to do it again.

[spudchucka]

How can we view it? Freedom information etc?
I'd love to publish some of it.

Yep, I guess you could write to police national headquarters and request a copy of the traffic charge precedent book under the official information act and see what happens.

[SwanTiger]

I've only ever had to aim a firearm at one person and I hope like hell that I never have to do it again.
Was he black?

[spudchucka]

Was he black?

No, was white fella.

[Big Dave]

She is the only one in central.

Taa - Any chance of an email address?

[spudchucka]

Taa - Any chance of an email address?

If its a police employee you want to email just try: firstname.lastname@police.govt.nz

[Finn]

If its a police employee you want to email just try: firstname.lastname@police.govt.nz

I wanted to email you something Spud but spud.chucka@ird.govt.nz bounced back.

[ManDownUnder]

No, was white fella.

I thought it was spelled fulla...

Hitch?

[spudchucka]

I wanted to email you something Spud but spud.chucka@ird.govt.nz bounced back.

I've just sent you an email to blowhard@eCon.rippoff.nz

You can send me your friendly reply once you receive it.

[Finn]

I've just sent you an email to blowhard@eCon.rippoff.nz

You can send me your friendly reply once you receive it.

I just got it and thanks for your CV. I also appreciate the fact that you've taken the time to visit our website and understand our philosophy.

Hey, we may not be the cheapest in town but boy are we slow.

[TerminalAddict]

Hey, we may not be the cheapest in town but boy we swallow.

huh <_< ????

[skelstar]

Hey, we may not be the cheapest in town but boy are we slow.
You must spread blah blah...LOL