Who uses crash knobs/ frame sliders on their bike? [Archive]

RM125king

20th September 2006, 16:48

i have just brought some frame sliders for my bike and i dont like them very much. im just wondering who else uses them and did they do the job in an off? also is there any point in having them at all? i mean if you crash you can just claim insurance so why try and save it?

The_Dover

20th September 2006, 16:51

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

my last (big) off the only thing to survive without a scratch was the fuckin frame sliders!

Even the tool kit and key were bent and fucked.

jimbo600

20th September 2006, 16:53

Well put it this way. I went for a slide on my K6 600, it was nothing special, and it was fucked. If I had crash bungs on it would have been OK.

I have since put them on my new one. Fit them if you can.

sAsLEX

20th September 2006, 16:54

If you drop it stopping for a pie or something the damage wont be worth claiming on but some sliders might stop most of that

Swoop

20th September 2006, 16:56

Don't have them.
I ride like a poof so do not need them...:weep:

RM125king

20th September 2006, 16:58

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

my last (big) off the only thing to survive without a scratch was the fuckin frame sliders!

Even the tool kit and key were bent and fucked.

hahahaha classic

onearmedbandit

20th September 2006, 17:24

Um, I kind of rolled my bike off the side stand at home one night, I think I must've flicked it back up a bit getting off. Held the bike for a couple of seconds but realised it was a lost battle. Bike went down slow but hard, and I feared the worse. Hoisted the bike back up and not a scratch on her (whoops, forgot the indicator, which required a bit of glue!), except for the sticker on the crash bung. Sweet, a worthwhile investment.

They may or may not do much in a high speed off, but for slower speed stuff they're the difference between a bruised ego and a bruised wallet.

The_Dover

20th September 2006, 17:26

hahahaha classic

but yes, my bikes do have crash bungs.

The Pastor

20th September 2006, 17:32

dawnrazor

20th September 2006, 17:46

1) After spending the best part of a grand to restore one side of my bike to its former glory after a very low speed spill. I'd say they are worth it, 'cus if I'd had them I would have only have had to fork out a fraction of that.

2) Bike rolled off sidestand recently, just after I finished putting the other side back together ironically enough. The newly fitted oggie knob took all the fall, no marks on the fairing and only a scratch on the stator over, they just paid for them selves right there no question.

3) the next dumb ass thing I do that means finding the bike in an unnatural riding position---oggie knobs to the resuce.

A low speed spill, usually won't do enough damage to exceed your excess on your insurance so theres no point claiming and alerting your insurance company your a tit. crash knobs in a high speed spill won't really help you anyways, as chances are you'll write the bike off anyways - or "wot dover said".

for the sake of dubious esthetics, they are so worth it......

Maha

20th September 2006, 17:52

If you drop it stopping for a pie or something the damage wont be worth claiming on but some sliders might stop most of that

I dunno about that sAsLEX...if SwanTiger was to see a 'pie' sign, his head turns and his leg swings over the bike and it.........just keeps going !....:killingme
So, the damage could be severe enough in that situation......:yes:

dawnrazor

20th September 2006, 17:52

I don't have them fitted, but I want them.

Wouldnt they increace the chance of bending your frame in a slide? A lot more pressure would be going on one point of the fame instead of being more spread out?

they bolt to the engine.....at least mine do.....and if those sort of forces are being exerted through the crash knob its designed to break .....because at those kinda forces the bikes FUCKED and chances are, you are too - so no worries.

AllanB

20th September 2006, 18:06

I want to know why a piddly little bit of alloy and plastic cost so much - $175 bucks for a pair for my bike. I'd be keen at $100 and figure i could make my own for less than half that.

The factory should fit them from new - they cost them probably $20 a bike!

Just like surge protector switches to electronics gear - maybe $10 tops on the retail price if they were fitted at the factory (hello I am from Sony I require 100 000 surge protector switches....).

Nutter34

20th September 2006, 18:06

About 18 months ago, there was a guy on an 05 R1 at Ruapuna who lost it out of a corner at about 120-ish... He was lucky in that the bike slid up the track. When he picked the bike up, the only damage was to the hero blob, the side stand pin and one or two other bits. The knobs were well worn but he carried on riding for the day...
I myself have dropped the Z and if it weren't for the knobs, there would have been heaps more damage.
I've also seen a Monster go down with them on, same thing, damage limitation...
It's the difference between claiming or not claiming insurance... Or riding home or getting a mate to pick it up...

kiwifruit

20th September 2006, 18:13

yes, i will always fit them to my bikes

Two Smoker

20th September 2006, 19:17

For a road bike... definate yes... saves those silly moments when you accidently drop the bike off the stand...

Race bike??? More trouble than they are worth... They can twist and tearyour frame apart...

bell

20th September 2006, 20:58

$3500 later....most of which would have been prevented by a set of crash knobs. I'd actually tried to put the knobs on the night before this happened. Didn't have a long enough 8mm hex head wrench. Yeah, quite pissed off. I'm up for the $500 excess as there were no witnesses to the bike being knocked down while parked on the street (except the fucker that did it, of course.):mad:

Toast

20th September 2006, 22:50

The_Dover

20th September 2006, 22:56

cartwheels you say...............

snigger.......

jimbo600

20th September 2006, 23:00

They're good if the bike slides on the tarmac...but if it goes in to soft stuff, they can dig in and cause all sorts of carnage...bike is likely to flip and start doing cartwheels n stuff, which may cause more damage.

Yeah I had this happen. Slid off into the dirt, bungs dug in and I did a 360 in the air and landed back on my wheels and simply rode off again. True!!

Kyle

20th September 2006, 23:42

Ive seen a slider knob bend its bracket and pierce a water coolant elbow which wouldve been otherwise untouched. had to pretty much drop the engine out to replace that elbow too. Bracketing around factory fairings, rather than mounting direct and cutting holes in fairings was the problem. And the crash was a good one. As for the cost, they`ll tell ya its because its not just plastic, its nylon, or if you`ll believe it teflon. And thats expensive stuff. Hundreds of small flat nylon pads, glued to every part that might scrape, thatd be the trick. :done:

Motoracer

21st September 2006, 00:33

Read http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=13299&highlight=crash

Do you wana go for a ride this Saturday? Will text you details if you want.

Cheers, Sudeep.

Zapf

21st September 2006, 00:37

Yea crash noobs are good overall. They increase the odds that you might get away from a lowside without serious damage.... bike dependent.

They are made from Nylon 6, one of the hardest wearing plastic material. I have done some research on them and they are the best plastic commercially available.

Nutter34

21st September 2006, 00:41

"D" FZ1

21st September 2006, 09:19

Frame sliders are definitely gonna save your bike in a gentle low side or if it falls over but they can do some frame damage in a big "Off". Still well worth having as far as I am concerned. My mates ZX6 fell off the side stand recently and the only damage was a broken mirror. His sliders kept the rest of the fairings off the ground.

Animal

21st September 2006, 09:22

I dunno about that sAsLEX...if SwanTiger was to see a 'pie' sign, his head turns and his leg swings over the bike and it.........just keeps going !....:killingme
So, the damage could be severe enough in that situation......:yes:
What is is with SwanTiger and pies?

zadok

21st September 2006, 09:25

I think they are a great idea. I only wish there were some available for my bike.

Buster

21st September 2006, 09:32

Whats an insurance companys point of view if a crash bung causes damage to a frame or an engine? Could it give them a reason to not pay out?

HenryDorsetCase

21st September 2006, 10:05

Ironically I was thinking just this the other day. Where do I get a set from, and how much will it cost?

I am happy to mail order if its cheaper since I loathe the local dealership, and the one I bought my bike from wont have it.

"D" FZ1

21st September 2006, 11:04

We can supply Genuine GYT-R Yamaha sliders or aftermarket sets to fit most motorcycles. Email or PM me for a price.

baz300kph

21st September 2006, 18:00

If it wernt for oggy knobs... id have spent hundreds if not thousands on repears... :crazy:

BAD DAD

23rd September 2006, 19:47

After reading so much about them I'm gradually being sold to the idea that they are probably a good idea. I can remember when seat belts in cars were optional, now you'd feel like a knob without them. Can you feel like a knob on yer bike.... without knobs on yer bike....?

pritch

23rd September 2006, 20:16

Wouldnt they increace the chance of bending your frame in a slide?

Some mount through the cases and people postulate that they can crack the cases in a crash. Perhaps, but that would require considerable force and it's likely there would be an insurance claim in that event anyway. A lot of bikes just get dropped in the driveway though, and in that circumstance the sliders could help minimise, or even prevent damage.

They are just another form of insurance really, like clear plastic on your tank. As Dirty Harry said, "Do you feel lucky?"

WINJA

23rd September 2006, 21:02

I Had Long Crash Knobs On My Race Bike And They Took Some Preasure Off My Legs A Few Times When I Lowsided, Worth Every Cent , Ive Cut Those Same Crash Knobs Down And Have Put Them On My Gixxer 1000 And Theyve Saved The Side Panels Last Time I Crashed , They Can Damage The Frame In Certain Accidents Tho

Reno

24th September 2006, 14:09

Why is it on the 636, one crach knob is longer than the other?

Toast

24th September 2006, 14:20

Why is it on the 636, one crach knob is longer than the other?

I think it's 'cos the engine is slightly offset to one side of the frame (further left I think)...The crash bungs should stick out a similar distance from the plastic if you look at it front on.

HDTboy

25th September 2006, 15:04

I have fixed pegs, they work wonders in medium speed crashes, I've never used crash bungs but probably should do

Dak

25th September 2006, 18:40

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

my last (big) off the only thing to survive without a scratch was the fuckin frame sliders!

Even the tool kit and key were bent and fucked.

Jesus you crack me up Dover, must of been a hell crash.:banana:

WarlockNZ

25th September 2006, 19:20

I'd love to have sliders on my bike, but it would mean cutting holes in my baby and i don't want to do that myself.

Does anyone know of a pro outfit that could help me out ??

RM125king

25th September 2006, 21:00

have a a look at this company. i got mine from there and its all they do is frame sliders. www.motovationusa.com

The_Dover

25th September 2006, 21:06

Jesus you crack me up Dover, must of been a hell crash.:banana:

Reckon?:whistle:

gijoe1313

25th September 2006, 21:13

Reckon?:whistle:

Crikey! That is barely recognisable as a bike mate! Details of how it happened? :gob: And how the hell are you walking around? Your bloody Asphalt Angel must be riding on a Gixxer as well to keep up with your antics! :lol:

WarlockNZ

25th September 2006, 21:14

Reckon?:whistle:

oh fuck! .. that looks nasty .. no way sliders would have saved that

Zed

25th September 2006, 21:21

Have fitted them to my last 3 bikes, a precautionary measure more than anything. Some bikes you have to make a hole in the fairing to mount them thru, and some bungs are made to bolt on to frame while others are made to fit on fairing mounts on some models, the latter are a waste of time as they will easily break off.

Fungus Amongus

25th September 2006, 21:23

I want to know why a piddly little bit of alloy and plastic cost so much - $175 bucks for a pair for my bike. I'd be keen at $100 and figure i could make my own for less than half that.

The factory should fit them from new - they cost them probably $20 a bike!

Im just fixing up my fairings at the moment and making up some crash knobs myself, cost me $50ish for a 500mm bar of the plastic but that should get me a few sets of knobs..so depending how good I wana make them look its just machining cost n bolts to pay for...

Loose Nut

25th September 2006, 21:24

Pogo springs may have helped.

The guy selling this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=67657182)bike may have been better off without crash bungs at all.

WarlockNZ

25th September 2006, 21:27

Pogo springs may have helped.

The guy selling this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=67657182)bike may have been better off without crash bungs at all.

Whats wrong with it ?? .. apart from the price?

Zed

25th September 2006, 21:40

Pogo springs may have helped.

The guy selling this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=67657182)bike may have been better off without crash bungs at all.Lol, the special Suzuki Alstare edition, was popular in 2003-04, i think Colemans or someone brought a few into NZ and sold them off at a reduced price, i've personally met 6 KBers who own/owned that same exact model! pretty rude colours eh!

Loose Nut

25th September 2006, 21:53

Whats wrong with it ?? .. apart from the price?
The frame/crash bung mount was cracked and re-welded after a fall. - It's clear if you read the auction comments.

WarlockNZ

25th September 2006, 21:57

The frame/crash bung mount was cracked and re-welded after a fall. - It's clear if you read the auction comments.

eeekkk ... thanks for pointing that out .. i looked at the price and said "HELL NO" .. didn;t even bother to read the comments :Pokey:

texmo

25th September 2006, 21:58

Crash knoobs fuckign rule you saw how they protected my bike on saturday. get them they are fuckign mint!

texmo

25th September 2006, 22:04

Pogo springs may have helped.

The guy selling this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=67657182)bike may have been better off without crash bungs at all.

that guy was a dick, i was gonna buy it but he was a liar.

Loose Nut

25th September 2006, 22:07

that guy was a dick, i was gonna buy it but he was a liar.
Yeah, I had the cash ready to buy, but the guys attitude put me off.
You have to have a certain level of trust in a guy to buy his second-hand re-welded bike.

Dak

26th September 2006, 19:59

Naaaa, I reckon Dover just didn't mount them properly, if the were mounted properly the bike would've still been mint as. :laugh:

oh fuck! .. that looks nasty .. no way sliders would have saved that

SlowHand

26th September 2006, 20:27