You won't see this very often...

[Disco Dan]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42696&stc=1&d=1159256571

[Dadpole]

Fek Orf... I used to tow a 14'6" boat with ny 1275.

[placidfemme]

What area was that pic taken in? LilSel has a blue mini and a ZZR lol

[SARGE]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42696&stc=1&d=1159256571

what??. a Kwaka on a trailer???


almost as common as a Gixxer Thou in a million pieces in the middle of the road or a Honda at a gay bar..

[Cajun]

i know that house, friend use to own it about 18 months ago

[marty]

so - you obviously DO see this often ....

[Swoop]

...or a Honda at a gay bar..
Damn. And I thought those blokes were saying nice things about "bodywork" about the VFR...:buggerd:

[McJim]

Wouldn't it have made more sense to attach the trailer to the bike and load the mini on to the trailer?

[placidfemme]

Wouldn't it have made more sense to attach the trailer to the bike and load the mini on to the trailer?

lol its a ZZR I reckon the mini would have more power :Pokey:




No offence to ZZR riders :dodge:

[kickingzebra]

My zzr 250 would wheelie at up to 120

(metres per minute)

[unhingedlizard]

Seen a Mini towing a trailer with a mini on it before.
Look at the wheels on the trailer then the wheels on the car and try keep a straight face.

[Disco Dan]

pic was taken before i bought me gear... ...yeah, zzr has no power :( especially after sitting on the back of my mates honda firestorm while going about 280kmph ;) hehe that was fun!!

...THE MINI IS FOR SALE! ! !

[James Deuce]

honda firestorm while going about 280kmph



That needs to be moved to jokes and humour

[Disco Dan]

hey, thats what he told me afterwards! unrestricted firestorm, needle was bouncing on the end of the speedo at 280... ...i know speedos become less accurate as the speed increases but jeez was pretty fast alright!

[MVnut]

Agree with Jim2...unrestricted Firestorm 280k, funniest thing I've heard in ages...........more like 220:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Colapop]

Damn. And I thought those blokes were saying nice things about "bodywork" about the VFR...:buggerd:
And you never wondered why they thought "Inteceptor" and "Intruder" are such 'good' names for bikes?

[Disco Dan]

west aucks...

[Swoop]

..."Intruder" are such 'good' names for bikes?

:spanking: :buggerd: :chase:


:lol:

[unhingedlizard]

And you never wondered why they thought "Inteceptor" and "Intruder" are such 'good' names for bikes?

Not as bad as "Diversion"
What retard thought that one up? Diversions are a source of annoyance not something to aspire to.

[gav]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16014&d=1126952884
So what were you going to use the trailer for? :whistle:

[Disco Dan]

OH AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DISAGREED WITH MY POST:

Originally Posted by Disco Dan
honda firestorm while going about 280kmph


That needs to be moved to jokes and humour

Have since gotten the owner to join KB... ask him yourself

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=8514

Rant over...:angry:

[skidMark]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42696&stc=1&d=1159256571


blimin westies lol

[Damon]

OH AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DISAGREED WITH MY POST:

Originally Posted by Disco Dan
honda firestorm while going about 280kmph


That needs to be moved to jokes and humour

Have since gotten the owner to join KB... ask him yourself

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=8514

Rant over...:angry:

280? 2 up? where did this happen? I've got exactly the same bike down to the cans and paint, and it's not capable of 280, the factory only rate them to 250

[James Deuce]

There is no way in hell that a VTR could do 280 2 up. Impossible.

Do you understand just how much horsepower you need for that? 100HP will get you to 240 km/hr. After that the amount of power required to punch a very aerodynamically inefficient shape, made less aerodynamically efficient by having two lumps of un-aerodynamic human on it, increases logarithmically.

Get the details of the guy's bike, plug them into the calculator in the link I've attached and continue to argue that a VTR can do 280. You won't be able to.

You will need measured rear wheel horsepower for the VTR in question, from a dyno to accurately complete the equation.

Most speedos are approx 10% inaccurate and almost all over read by that amount. If your friend has re-geared (people usually lower gearing for better acceleration and easier wheelis) his VTR then he could have made it over read even worse.

Assuming it is standard, you can subtract at least 28 km/hr from the maximum reading. If he has made a 10% reduction in gearing as well then you could be looking at a min 56 km/hr speedo inaccuracy at an indicated 280 km.hr. Which is what I think we are looking at.

Tell your mate to do the science, not the anecdotal blather.

My RC30, with $2500 dollars worth of race kit parts (cams & valves) made 108BHP at the rear wheel and recorded a radar measured and time vs distance confirmed 265km/hr with me folded up like a pretzel and me only weighing 85 kgs back back in 1991.

http://www.bgsoflex.com/auto.html

He's talking bollocks.

[James Deuce]

I've done a rough calculation based on assumptions and figures I've gleaned from various VTR sites and this is what it looks like:

Input Parameters Are the Following:
<code> Coefficient of drag = 0.4</code>
<code> Frontal Area = 10.00 sq feet</code>
<code> Test Temperature = 70.00 degrees F</code>
<code> Test Barometer = 30.00 inches Hg</code>
<code> Vehiche MPH = 170</code> Computation Results:

<code>Air Density Computed is 0.00233</code> <code>Aerodynamic "Drag Factor" is 0.01078</code>
<code>Rolling "Drag Factor" is 66.11639</code>

<code> Computed Aerodynamic Horsepower Required is 141</code>
<code> Computed Rolling Horsepower Required is 15</code>
<code> Computed Frontal Lift Force is 55 Lbs.</code>

Dyno his bike - if it has 141 rear wheel horse power then it is a pretty worked VTR1000. I'm being pretty kind and assuming neither of you is a fat bastard.

[thehollowmen]

<code> Coefficient of drag = 0.4</code>


Shit that's one slippery bike
I'll just find the post on drag, because that's near sports car limits.

EDIT : http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=638588&postcount=38

Whack those calculations in again with a drag of at least 0.7

[James Deuce]

I know - I was being kind.

I did 0.7 and it was 230 REAR WHEEL HP needed to hit 280kph.

:gob:

[Sniper]

I smell something stinky about the Firestorm, and still waiting for the owner to confirm this

[Astrocat]

280? 2 up? where did this happen? I've got exactly the same bike down to the cans and paint, and it's not capable of 280, the factory only rate them to 250
Dont be too quick to write this one off. My needle stopped at the 280 mark on the speedo. Not a true reading of actual ground speed i admit. This bike definatly delivers and im going to spend an easy 2K to make sure that everything i can wring out of this machine. I just got a new RK XW- Ring chain to handle the tourqe. Im going to use racing fuel, heavy duty plugs and leads to boot.

Any suggestions from anyone, even those whom have little faith, to what i can do to make this thing shatter barriers to near on flying, would be thanked. I dont have a partner to nag me about not doing this, so im going to have fun oushing this bike to its limits. I even considered putting it on the track for some amusement. I love this shit.

[kickingzebra]

Race fuel needs jetting and dyno retune, and is hard to get.... And VTRs don't have a reputation as the best handling beasts out there... Fun to ride all the same!

My reccommendation is suspension before power.

[Damon]

My reccommendation is suspension before power.

I agree, someone has had a fiddle with mine and it handles well, for a VTR, but if you want to go breaking records then I'd be looking for a new suspension setup all together, PM Shaun, he's our resident Ohlins guy, also a set of manual cam chain tensioners would be a good start because they tend to play up when you don't want them to, like I found out at the last Drag day, check out http://www.cbrzone.com (http://www.cbrzone.com/), they have some good performance parts at good prices and they deliver fast too.

[Astrocat]

Will do as much i can on the suspention till i run out of options. Cheers. Some swear by the SV before the VTR, however i have had a lot of fun the VTR bikes. Im a Vtwin man for sure. I love them.

[Astrocat]

Ive got two brothers pipes, battleaxe on the rear, peralli on the front. Im sure mine has been fiddled with before i got it, as it is just a monster when you open the throttle to the limit it will go.

[The_Dover]

chuck it off a cliff, then it might hit 280.

and the bottom of the cliff is the best place for it.

[Astrocat]

Dont let your head get to big for your helmet.

[DMNTD]

Pretty keen to check out a VTR that can do 280kmph two up! :gob:
Have THRASHED TL's and SV's before but hell looks like I should've had a Firestorm all this time.
Feel free to bring it on up and putter along side me anytime bud...don't worry my scoot can manage ok

[The_Dover]

ok Burt Munro

[Astrocat]

Who gives a shit what you ride, it dosnt matter what you ride guys, at the end of the day we are all bike riders. Enjoy the idea of diversity. But if your so lost in yourself that you get to the point of thinking that you are the one and all because of the fact that THE BIKE made YOU look cool (not the other way around), oh well; sad loss to the idea you started off with.

Enjoy riding. I do.

[The_Dover]

hey, if it gets the bitches it's all good.

[ManDownUnder]

or a Hummer at a gay bar..


SARGE - you seem very well informed about these things...

[Astrocat]

Use what talents you possess: the woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best.

[The_Dover]

yup, he's on drugs.

[DMNTD]

Who gives a shit what you ride, it dosnt matter what you ride guys, at the end of the day we are all bike riders. Enjoy the idea of diversity. But if your so lost in yourself that you get to the point of thinking that you are the one and all because of the fact that THE BIKE made YOU look cool (not the other way around), oh well; sad loss to the idea you started off with.
Enjoy riding. I do.

Dunno where that came from man...I'm just intruiged(genuinely) about this VTR of yours. You know,diversity and all man. The references to what I'd ridden hard was a comparision of similar bikes,that all.
You say you don't give a shit what "you" ride...diversity again man.

Dunno...maybe Dover's right :sherlock:

[Astrocat]

If those whom have knocked the 280kph, go back and read again. I said that the speedo ran out of rom. I acknowledged that the grounfspeed is quit something else. I wasnt the one touting that the spped was actual to the speedo; some-else did that further back. The reality is quite different, as nice as it would be to take it there. I certinalty did not just start riding today.

I dont muck around at the bottom of dial. I love getting as close to light speed as much as possible, like most others do.

[The_Dover]

i don't, i like corners.

terminal velocity does nothing for me, otherwise i'd go skydiving.

[Astrocat]

Corners are cool. The more the better. BUT, when coming onto a straight i just LOVE pure grunt and heaps of tourqe to get you there. :Punk:

[The_Dover]

so remind me why you ride a honda?

[The Stranger]

when coming onto a straight i just LOVE pure grunt and heaps of tourqe to get you there. :Punk:

And you have experienced this on a VTR?

[Astrocat]

The honda is my pre-cursor to getting an aprilla in Jan 07 for my birthday. And yes i have experienced this on the VTR. If there was nothing else around, then i sure that those who think their IT, would bow their heads and ride one. If not, oh well their loss. Yes having the mack-daddy of bike, which ever class or type you prefer, is the most ideal position to be in, but dont forget where you came from; the 250 club. hahaha lol:rofl:

[The_Dover]

i know 250 riders that would smoke you and I.

[Astrocat]

I dont doubt that at all. Ive seen some 250 bikes that kick ass:doobey:

[Dai]

Dont let your head get to big for your helmet.


Arent these both words for the same thing?

[Astrocat]

What do mean???

[Maha]

I dont muck around at the bottom of dial.

I do, its a very nice place to be, i have no idea what my bike will do speed wise, but there is photographic evidence around somewhere of me out in front of some very quick plebs......:scooter:

[Maha]

Corners are cool. The more the better. BUT, when coming onto a straight i just LOVE pure grunt and heaps of tourqe to get you there. :Punk:

You really need to get up norf Astrocat, you will be a few pounds lighter for it at the end of the day....:gob:

[Astrocat]

I do a ride to Hikurangi to see my folks. Im from the north. Nice place.

[kickingzebra]

What do mean???

Helmet, Head, Bellend, baby maker...

The honda thing is to be taken with a grain of salt, but you will have more friends if you join the only true brethren of the way of the GSXR... This does however involve frequent off road excursions...

BTW welcome to kiwipiker!

[The Stranger]

i know 250 riders that would smoke you and I.

I sincerely hope they are female this time Dover.

[The_Dover]

it's all the same with yer eyes closed.

[DMNTD]

... i have no idea what my bike will do speed wise, but there is photographic evidence around somewhere of me out in front of some very quick plebs......:scooter:
You're never going to let that one go eh? :shutup:




You really need to get up norf Astrocat...
PM sent :yes:

[MattRSK]

Its amazing what sort of conversation arises from a picture of a mini with a trailer!

[bungbung]

Have a look at the results from the east-west sprints, flying quarter speeds from guys riding vtr1000 or similar bikes:

http://www.cdd.co.nz/sprint/sprint.htm

The fastest speed for a vtr1000 that I can find is 244km/h, of course this would show 280k on the speedo...

[The Stranger]

I do, its a very nice place to be, i have no idea what my bike will do speed wise, but there is photographic evidence around somewhere of me out in front of some very quick plebs......:scooter:

So you were about to be lapped again were you?

[Maha]

So you were about to be lapped again were you?

Fuck dont give him ideas Noel, im getting a bit of milage out of this one.....:killingme

[Damon]

i don't, i like corners.

terminal velocity does nothing for me, otherwise i'd go skydiving.

it's just a pitty corners don't like you

[The_Dover]

says the fat man on the crap honda!

[Damon]

says the fat man on the crap honda!
thats still in one peice

[Damon]

holy shit! i've just notice how much of this thread i've just missed, i should stop working and refresh more often

[The_Dover]

my gixxer's still in one piece and the last two met their demise on the straight adn not so narrow.

use KBspy, the lazy mans refresh.

[Damon]

Have a look at the results from the east-west sprints, flying quarter speeds from guys riding vtr1000 or similar bikes:

http://www.cdd.co.nz/sprint/sprint.htm

The fastest speed for a vtr1000 that I can find is 244km/h, of course this would show 280k on the speedo...

Holy Shit! i was just checking out the times for sept last year and some dude got 210kph on a VTR250! thats incredable

[James Deuce]

That was a huge typo. They mixed him up with someone else. PM limbimtimbimwim for details. :)