Wanted: 250cc bike for for learner!! anything considered

[Delirium]

hi there everyone my names Cam and im new to the forums at kiwibiker! that bike bug has hit me ever since i first rode my mates fxr150 earlier this year, and not so long ago i was priveliged enough to ride a colegue of mine' CBR250R. now iv decided its my turn to get my own.

so basically im looking for a 250, but i want something with a bit of grunt that looks the part and sounds good. iv had plenty of experience riding bikes doing trials breifly, and on the farm etc so i want something fast.

looks like cbr's, zxr's etc are out of my price range but iv seen a couple of fzr's for under 3g which sounds like me.

so if anyone knows of anything going for a good price, thatd be mint. i live in hawkes bay.

cheers everyone!! :cool:

[carver]

got a 05 hyo GT 250 for 4k
check on tardme for a auction call 2x 250cc sports bikes

[Delirium]

yea i saw that cheers. 4g is outa my price range tho. 3g is the max il be looking at... due to me still being at school earning fuck all...

[MSTRS]

Trials riding is NOT experience when on the road. You are welcome to come chat face to with us if you want some pointers etc. Just PM for contact.

[MidnightMike]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=36047

Might not be your thing but its in your price range.

[gamgee]

I'll be selling my GPX250RR soon, with a full set of leathers and a helmet thats only been worn a handful of times, for $3000, it's in mint condition, everything running mint, had the engine reconditioned about 4-5000km ago (it sat in a shed for a number of years and seized) shocks and seat redone at the same time, one of the best condition gpx's you'll find, you keen?

[Delirium]

Trials riding is NOT experience when on the road. You are welcome to come chat face to with us if you want some pointers etc. Just PM for contact.

sorry mate, but thats a load of bullshit. i dont know if you know anything about trials or have done it before but it teaches you some amazing skills that you will use everytime you hop on your bike. however, its fair to say that its completely different in the way you ride, and i doubt id be able to balance for long on a road bike either, let alone hop and bouce the thing!

[Delirium]

I'll be selling my GPX250RR soon, with a full set of leathers and a helmet thats only been worn a handful of times, for $3000, it's in mint condition, everything running mint, had the engine reconditioned about 4-5000km ago (it sat in a shed for a number of years and seized) shocks and seat redone at the same time, one of the best condition gpx's you'll find, you keen?

thats a 2 stroke right? i dont realy know my 2 strokes to be honest and not that keen on them... but some more info?? like i said il consider anything.

[gamgee]

thats a 2 stroke right? i dont realy know my 2 strokes to be honest and not that keen on them... but some more info?? like i said il consider anything.

no it's a 4 stroke parallel twin, same engine as the zzr's have except a slightly lighter frame etc. very reliable engine, good power, good bike, i think you'd like it, google for some pictures, it's a fully faired sportsbike

[MSTRS]

sorry mate, but thats a load of bullshit. i dont know if you know anything about trials or have done it before but it teaches you some amazing skills that you will use everytime you hop on your bike. however, its fair to say that its completely different in the way you ride, and i doubt id be able to balance for long on a road bike either, let alone hop and bouce the thing!

Ah so sorry. You obviously know it all and don't need any advice.

[imdying]

sorry mate, but thats a load of bullshit. i dont know if you know anything about trials or have done it before but it teaches you some amazing skills that you will use everytime you hop on your bike. however, its fair to say that its completely different in the way you ride, and i doubt id be able to balance for long on a road bike either, let alone hop and bouce the thing!I think you've been a bit quick off the mark mate. I'm pretty sure if you slowed down and considered what he's saying, the implication is that trials riding teaches you nothing about road craft and staying alive in the urban jungle. It's all very well being able to ride around hazards, but a lack of experience in identifying road hazards early enough to utilize that handling skill, is something that can only be taught by seat time on the road.

[cowpoos]

sorry mate, but thats a load of bullshit. i dont know if you know anything about trials or have done it before but it teaches you some amazing skills that you will use everytime you hop on your bike. however, its fair to say that its completely different in the way you ride, and i doubt id be able to balance for long on a road bike either, let alone hop and bouce the thing!
it is different....... MSTRS is correct...weight and geometry affect how a road bike reacts completely different in different situations....trials bikes,MXers,speedway bikes,crusiers,sports bikes,etc all require different styles of riding....although ignorence is bliss eh!

[gamgee]

anyway back on topic, he didn't ask for riding advice, he asked for a bike, are you keen on my GPX?

[Colapop]

Well he's not considering "anything" he has some ideas about what he does and does not want.

Yeah sure, you want a 250. But, do you want a cruiser? Do you want a 2 stroke or 4? Will you be riding open roads or in the city? There's only a couple of bike out there ....?

[Delirium]

Ah so sorry. You obviously know it all and don't need any advice.
yea sorry i apologise for that. i was talking to dad and he agrees with you and i see where you are coming from. i actually think you are right now iv had the time to think about it. where i was coming from is... the first time i rode a road bike (fxr150) i took to it like a natural and couldnt get off. so i thought that my experience in trails must have accounted to that somewhat. my apologies once again. i havent come here to make any enemies! lol thanks guys

[Colapop]

I'm sure most here will forgive you. Incidentally, you'll find Mstrs to be a top notch bloke (although he does tell funnt stories about Wellingtonians...)

What inda bike are you after? Seems to me you're looking for soething like a CBR250RR? Or similar. For the 3g price range you'll be looking at something like a GPZ, GPX or older GSX - if you're lucky a CBR will come along. Be aware that most bikes in that price range have been fairly well used (No Gamee that doesn't mean I'm saying they're shit)

[Delirium]

gamgee... i found a pic of a gpx on the net. looks like its a late 80's model or something is that right? im looking for something a bit newer or low km's. also id prefer a 4cylinder. im interested in a couple of cbr's in the motorcycle trader. so il most likely get something from a dealer so i can sort out some finance and get a decent bike, instead of a private sale where i have to come up with the cash all at once.
so anyone that works at a dealer, im on the lookout in the 5g ish price range now.
also anyone that sees anything popping up,it would be mint if you could let me know!
cheers

[gamgee]

gamgee... i found a pic of a gpx on the net. looks like its a late 80's model or something is that right? im looking for something a bit newer or low km's. also id prefer a 4cylinder. im interested in a couple of cbr's in the motorcycle trader. so il most likely get something from a dealer so i can sort out some finance and get a decent bike, instead of a private sale where i have to come up with the cash all at once.
so anyone that works at a dealer, im on the lookout in the 5g ish price range now.
also anyone that sees anything popping up,it would be mint if you could let me know!
cheers

sweet, but it's such a good bike, kawasaki have just started making it again same as the 89 model i've got, you'll struggle to get a decent 4 cyl from a dealer for 5 grand, you'll get a good 4 cyl in a private sale for about that price, dealers ask about 5.5-7k for them, which is insane, but people still buy them...

[Delirium]

yea theres a couple of zxr's for bang on 5g. one zxr i saw was 6g and that was a 89 model, and iv seen it on trade me, that mint as black and red one, you might have seen it. that would be awesome. theres also a 97 cbr250rr for $5,750 but it doesnt say how many km's that is. still, thats a pretty darn new bike comparatively. theres also a 90 model cbr250rr for 7g and thats got 9400kms which would kick arse. so thats prett much what im looking at. iv got plenty enough money for a deposit and parents are helping there, but i havent talked to anyone about what the finance is like. so il be getting on the phone first thing on monday and enquire about that.

[Colapop]

... you'll struggle to get a decent 4 cyl from a dealer for 5 grand...
Hey shaddup - I got mine from a dealer for $5 grand! And a $700 helmet for $400... of the course the guy I was dealing with had been made redundant and only had 2 weeks to go... (shit they musta lost some money...)

[gamgee]

i'd be a bit suspicious of a 16 year old bike with only 9500km! have you ridden that sort of bike before? very forward leaning race oriented riding position, take one for a test ride first, they aren't very forgiving of newb mistakes, but if you can handle it, and can afford it, then go for it, get a zxr tho ;)

[Delirium]

yea there are those sort of people that purely use them in the weekend etc and dont rack up many km's aswell. im sure it being at a reputable dealer also, that they would have done a backround check on it or whatever.

yep iv riden a guy at my works' cbr250r and walked back to the car with the biggest grin on my face iv ever had haha. i definitely think i could live with one. im not one to opt for mediocrity either. iv owned a couple of cars, had my fair share of dings etc, and my last car ('80 mk2 escort) got stolen. so im giving cars a rest for now and doing what iv always dreamed of doing and wanted to do since i was a kid, and get my own road bike!

[gamgee]

yea there are those sort of people that purely use them in the weekend etc and dont rack up many km's aswell. im sure it being at a reputable dealer also, that they would have done a backround check on it or whatever.


depends how reputable the dealer is some of them, especially honda dealers... just be careful was probably wound back before it left japan

[Delirium]

why do you say honda dealers? have you riden a zxr before by the way?

[MSTRS]

.... you'll find Mstrs to be a top notch bloke (although he does tell funnt stories about Wellingtonians...)


There are some that would agree with you...anyway, where's me hush money???


yea sorry i apologise for that. i was talking to dad and he agrees with you and i see where you are coming from. i actually think you are right now iv had the time to think about it. where i was coming from is... the first time i rode a road bike (fxr150) i took to it like a natural and couldnt get off. so i thought that my experience in trails must have accounted to that somewhat. my apologies once again. i havent come here to make any enemies! lol thanks guys

Fair enough. Tis easy to get the wrong end of the stick with what people say here. Trials skills are valuable, don't get me wrong, but you can't take them on the road. Sounds to me like you should be looking at a zxr, except do you realise how hard it is to stay within your licence conditions with any high powered 250? You may be better off with a twin for a while, such as a zzr/gpx or possibly a v-twin like a vtr (very under-rated).

[gamgee]

why do you say honda dealers? have you riden a zxr before by the way?

I haven't ridden the 250 version of the zxr, have the 400 tho, nice bikes, I nearly bought one, got a vfr400 instead, but that was more because the sound of a vfr400 starting up gave me a semi :2thumbsup

[Delirium]

Fair enough. Tis easy to get the wrong end of the stick with what people say here. Trials skills are valuable, don't get me wrong, but you can't take them on the road. Sounds to me like you should be looking at a zxr, except do you realise how hard it is to stay within your licence conditions with any high powered 250? You may be better off with a twin for a while, such as a zzr/gpx or possibly a v-twin like a vtr (very under-rated).

yea actually i was going to look at a '91 bandit here in the bay but that got sold. ideally i want a zxr or a cbr, but i dont want one just so it can go 180kmph or what ever, but for the pure build quality, handling, sound, aesthetics etc. the other thing is i dont consider myself as a complete beginner, allthough that may sound a bit 'up myself', i honestly feel confident on a road bike, compared to guys that havent had much experience at all (i used to thrash my mates fxr150 everywhere, and racked up a few hundred km's, even though i didnt have my licence :lol: ) i know a few of those people and they have gn250's and fxr150's, and i say good on them.

[JimO]

gamgee my man seein as the young gentleman doesnt want your magnificant machine i will take it off your hands for 1500 cold hard cash things...:2thumbsup gotta be a deal:wari:

[Delirium]

I haven't ridden the 250 version of the zxr, have the 400 tho, nice bikes, I nearly bought one, got a vfr400 instead, but that was more because the sound of a vfr400 starting up gave me a semi :2thumbsup

hah, is that a v twin? i have to say the cbr250r i rode sounded fucken incredible. have you heard a zxr before?

[SwanTiger]

why do you say honda dealers? have you riden a zxr before by the way?

I've ridden a CBR and a ZXR, the ZXR is definitely the better choice of the two however you should take 'the big picture' into consideration.

I have a few friends on CBR's and ZXR's who are slower than me on my GTR with 27 HP (while the CBR and ZXR's have between 40 and 45 HP). Ultimately learning to judge corners and resolve potentially bad situations quickly is what will make you a competent rider. This is something you can do on any kind of learner 250cc (or less) motorcycle.

Would you prefer to ride a less powerful motorcycle for 6 months and develop your skills and then progress to a ZXR or CBR and use the full potential of the bike; Or would you prefer to squid it up and only access the bikes potential in a straight line?

I'm not saying that you won't be competent, as you may well be, I think it's worth commenting despite the possibility of me looking like a dick.

I've seen a few mates buy nice learner bikes and then trade them in for a CBR, ZXR, FZR or two stroke to "keep up" and a few months later wonder why their riding skills haven't improved - especially after crashing a few times. I was going to do the same with my GTR because I couldn't "keep up" however some wise words from old riders put me in the right direction (but really, they're advice turned me into a careless speeding suspended license rider... :buggerd:).

Not trying to be a wise arse - just don't enjoy seeing people not getting any satisfaction from their bike and the road because of inappropriate decisions.

I suggest this all based on the following points:


You're skills will develop dramatically
You're less likely to crash because of speed
For the first 6 months you're stuck to 70 kmp/h (supposedly), why risk it if you're young and don't have much coin in the first place


All good having trail experience too, I did a lot of trail riding before I got a road bike. Regardless of that, like me, I suspect it will take you at least 3 months to really get a grip of road riding. If you go for a blast with some people who've been riding for a few years you'll notice the difference.

MSTRS sounds like a grumpy old fart :Pokey: but he speaketh wisdom!

[MSTRS]

hah, is that a v twin? i have to say the cbr250r i rode sounded fucken incredible. have you heard a zxr before?

You do know that the sound is more down to the particular muffler (or lack of) ?? An inline 4 250 will scream it's lungs out with a free-flowing exhaust system but any motor can give you the urge to 'scratch' if it has the 'right' stuff.

[MSTRS]

MSTRS sounds like a grumpy old fart :Pokey: but he speaketh wisdom!

Yeah and I can't ride for shit either:weep:

[Delirium]

those are some good points. you definitely sound like you know what you are on about. like i said above, iv had alot of experience with cars and driven plenty of them, fast. iv also crashed because of this. so im pretty much over the whole straight line speed thing, as my car that i drive now has similar power levels to some of the bikes mentioned on this thread. im alot more matured now and prefer to enjoy myself rather then 'chop it down a few gears and go for it on the straights'.

[gamgee]

hah, is that a v twin? i have to say the cbr250r i rode sounded fucken incredible. have you heard a zxr before?

even better it's a V4 :2thumbsup
yeah i've ridden a zxr400 they don't sound as good as the vfr

[Delirium]

You do know that the sound is more down to the particular muffler (or lack of) ?? An inline 4 250 will scream it's lungs out with a free-flowing exhaust system but any motor can give you the urge to 'scratch' if it has the 'right' stuff.
yea thats true, but looking at the more technical side of things, would the particular engine not influence the sound more-so? then again, the same thing applys with cars. you can hear some sort of car with a certain muffler on and it sounds like shit. and another with a different muffler that sounds great...

[gamgee]

gamgee my man seein as the young gentleman doesnt want your magnificant machine i will take it off your hands for 1500 cold hard cash things...:2thumbsup gotta be a deal:wari:

ok you give me $1500 in cold hard cash, then transfer the other $1500 via internet banking or something then you can have the bike :Pokey:

[SwanTiger]

those are some good points. you definitely sound like you know what you are on about. like i said above, iv had alot of experience with cars and driven plenty of them, fast. iv also crashed because of this. so im pretty much over the whole straight line speed thing, as my car that i drive now has similar power levels to some of the bikes mentioned on this thread. im alot more matured now and prefer to enjoy myself rather then 'chop it down a few gears and go for it on the straights'.

All good.

I've read the whole thread and it sounds like you have your head screwed on well enough. I'm not an experienced rider by any means, I've just seen too many people go into ditches and learnt from their (and my own) mistakes.

If you like inline fours, I reckon a Honda Hornet 250 or Bandit 250 would give you a tickle and be the ultimate bike to carry you through the "learner licensing bullshit phase". If I could go back to when I was looking for a bike, I would scrap the GTR for a Hornet 250.

[Ixion]

yea actually i was going to look at a '91 bandit here in the bay but that got sold. ideally i want a zxr or a cbr, but i dont want one just so it can go 180kmph or what ever, but for the pure build quality, handling, sound, aesthetics etc. the other thing is i dont consider myself as a complete beginner, allthough that may sound a bit 'up myself', i honestly feel confident on a road bike, compared to guys that havent had much experience at all (i used to thrash my mates fxr150 everywhere, and racked up a few hundred km's, even though i didnt have my licence :lol: ) i know a few of those people and they have gn250's and fxr150's, and i say good on them.



those are some good points. you definitely sound like you know what you are on about. like i said above, iv had alot of experience with cars and driven plenty of them, fast. iv also crashed because of this. so im pretty much over the whole straight line speed thing, as my car that i drive now has similar power levels to some of the bikes mentioned on this thread. im alot more matured now and prefer to enjoy myself rather then 'chop it down a few gears and go for it on the straights'.


Yep, clearly a mature and cautious rider here. Don't waste your time with four strokes, they're all much too slow for you. What you need is a two stroke. The H2 Kawasaki would be perfect, but alas long out of production. Try an Aprilia or RGV250.

Though, why restrict yourself to a 250. If you get a bigger bike, you can go faster. And someone with your experience needn't worry about the cops, just do a runner. You could get a litre bike for $5k. 250kph plus.

[slimjim]

Don't know if my bike suits you. (Using my mates access at mo cause I can't remember by password!)
She's a 1998 Suzuki GZ250 Marauder, a small cruiser (gets mistaken for a harley, which gets up my back!), goes great, 37000 kms, has a little bit of grunt and sounds like it too (due to having the exhaust drilled out). Looking to sell her to trade up.
Anyway email back through this if you are interested. Shazzygirl.:banana:

[Delirium]

what the hell is a GTR anyway? iv never heard of one before. accept of corse the car. whos into cars on this forum by the way? that is my other passion so you all know... lol
and yea you're right, iv learnt from my mistakes. boy have i what. and now as i drive around in my dads car everywhere while my project car sits in the shed at home, i watch everyone around me crash and burn just like i did. i swear nearly everyone of my mates ahve had some sort of accident. its good to know that iv learnt my lessons early aswell. its matured me a hell of a lot.

[MSTRS]

what the hell is a GTR anyway? iv never heard of one before.

Hyosung....

[Delirium]

Yep, clearly a mature and cautious rider here. Don't waste your time with four strokes, they're all much too slow for you. What you need is a two stroke. The H2 Kawasaki would be perfect, but alas long out of production. Try an Aprilia or RGV250.

Though, why restrict yourself to a 250. If you get a bigger bike, you can go faster. And someone with your experience needn't worry about the cops, just do a runner. You could get a litre bike for $5k. 250kph plus.

mate, dont waste my time. i dont know if you are being serious or not but it doesnt look like it. im sick of dickheads that try and take the piss on forums. if you are being a dickhead, then fuck off. excuse my language

[Delirium]

Hyosung....

oh ok yea im with ya now. cheers

[SwanTiger]

what the hell is a GTR anyway? iv never heard of one before. accept of corse the car. whos into cars on this forum by the way? that is my other passion so you all know... lol
Hyosung GT 250R, a Korean made bike.

Here is one forsale on Trade Me: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-70981113.htm

I've attached a couple of pictures as well, the first one is actually of a GT 650R (I made that up in PSP when I was bored) and the second is the 2006 GT 250R.


and yea you're right, iv learnt from my mistakes. boy have i what. and now as i drive around in my dads car everywhere while my project car sits in the shed at home, i watch everyone around me crash and burn just like i did. i swear nearly everyone of my mates ahve had some sort of accident. its good to know that iv learnt my lessons early aswell. its matured me a hell of a lot.
Seriously, don't worry about performance such as handling, power, brakes, etc. Think about which bike is going to "teach" you the most and provide you with the experience required to be considered a competent motorcyclist and most importantly what will give you the most enjoyment.

On the other hand, if you're really just into the whole go fast have a thrash thing you may as well buy a GSX-R 1000 or if you wanna stay legal, like Ixion says, buy a two stroke 250. But I'll put $1,000 bet that you'll end up like that cjade fellow on this site.

I originally wen't out looking for a CBR250RR as my first bike 'cos I heard from my mates that it was "fast" and shit like that. Luckily the dealer I spoke to wasn't so obsessed with making a sale and put the effort into helping me find a suitable bike that I liked. I still wanted to be "fast" and shit. But...

On reflection, I've given myself a few shit scares that I saved on the Hyosung, especially in the first 3 months. I honestly believe if I had of been stubborn and only gone with the CBR I would be dead or of had a serious accident 'cos I would of pushed the bike beyond my abilities at the time.

Live and learn. I've been in the same place as you with the same thoughts and had someone tell me the same stuff and I stopped to listen.

Anyway, I'm sure you get the message.

[MSTRS]

mate, dont waste my time. i dont know if you are being serious or not but it doesnt look like it. im sick of dickheads that try and take the piss on forums. if you are being a dickhead, then fuck off. excuse my language

Thought about redding you for this....but then it's not your fault that sarcasm is beyond your understanding. Tis OK - like listening to advise, it will come with maturity.

[MSTRS]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-72241364.htm

[Colapop]

Thought about redding you for this....but then it's not your fault that sarcasm is beyond your understanding. Tis OK - like listening to advise, it will come with maturity.
Johnboy Walton - You are an angry man!! If you weren't 10 times bigger than me, why I'd come over there and pop you one on the mouth. :lol: :lol:

[MSTRS]

Johnboy Walton - You are an angry man!! If you weren't 10 times bigger than me, why I'd come over there and pop you one on the mouth. :lol: :lol:

Pshaw!! You and who's army? Go play on the motorway.:spanking: :banana:

[Delirium]

i dont get it. please explain??

[gamgee]

i dont get it. please explain??

how old are you? you come across as being very immature (don't mean it as an insult)

[MSTRS]

i dont get it. please explain??

Explain what? The link to TM auction? Or playing on the motorway?

[Delirium]

that bandit looks awsome but the only thing im not so keen on is the mileage. 60000 is getting a bit high isnt it?

[Delirium]

im 17. could you expain what you said on the previous page about redding me? if that language is not accepted then tell me. i belong to a car forum where people dont care about the language used so sorry about that guys.

[MSTRS]

Depends on how it's been cared for etc....most 250's need reconning around the 50k mark so has probably been done. Only posted it for interest's sake. For what you want to spend you will be limited to an overpriced CBRR or ZXR (unless you are very lucky) and how many do you think have not had the tits ringed out of them by previous owners. Most of us here are just telling you to be open to other models/types

[MSTRS]

im 17. could you expain what you said on the previous page about redding me? if that language is not accepted then tell me. i belong to a car forum where people dont care about the language used so sorry about that guys.

Tis the rep system here. No problem with the language, it's the intent of the post that may attract negative (red) or positive (green) rep....check the little green square(s) on the right of each posters entry

[Delirium]

yea it think it awsome ay. only difficulty is that its way down south. he sounds like hes looks after it well also. what do you think of it?

[yungatart]

Delirium, Mstrs has put up his hand and offered to help you, he is a very experienced rider with 30 plus years on the roads. He is a mentor to HB riders and is my mentor, he has a 15 yo son who he has also mentored and assisted him in to making good decisions on his first bike purchase. You could do alot worse than Pming him to have a chat....

[Delirium]

yea thanks. he pm'd me just before.

[gamgee]

delirium, you're 17, you may think you've learnt a lot about the road, and you want a super quick bike, sounds like a recipe for disaster, owning and crashing a fast car doesn't mean you've learnt anything about hazard detection if anything it means you've learnt very little, listen to mstrs and potentially save yourself a lot of pain, and money, when you took the cbr for a ride did you try doing some emergency stops or, turns? I found on my VFR the first time I rode it (similar riding position to the cbr) that it took a lot of getting used to the far more forward riding position and it took a lot of balls to just turn the thing hard, let alone being able to do it in an emergency

[gamgee]

but if your hell bent on killing yourself, at least avoid financing your bike and leaving your parents with a debt to pay...

[Scouse]

Hyosung....wrong Hyodung

[MSTRS]

wrong Hyodung
Yep - wouldn't wanna own one but some like them

[SwanTiger]

wrong Hyodung

PFFT !! Quiet old man, go and join Ulysses (http://www.ulysses.org.nz/) or something.

[Scouse]

Delirium, Mstrs has put up his hand and offered to help you, he is a very experienced rider with 30 plus years on the roads. He is a mentor to HB riders and is my mentor, he has a 15 yo son who he has also mentored and assisted him in to making good decisions on his first bike purchase. You could do alot worse than Pming him to have a chat....I hear the banjos playin in the background

[Scouse]

PFFT !! Quiet old man, go and join Ulysses (http://www.ulysses.org.nz/) or something.Ah Glasshopper wiv age comes wisdom and I am not fuckin that old that I want to join those decrepid old cunts in ulysses yet or in the future whist I still have all my facultys. bunch of fuckin old cunts and your a cheeky young cunt

[Ixion]

Good Lord. They (Ulysses) have a whole forum on their site just for posting details of members' funerals!. How depressing, I didn't realise they were THAT old.

EDIT: And it's just about the most active forum!

[SwanTiger]

bunch of fuckin old cunts and your a cheeky young cunt
I hope you voted for me under the FUCKEN CUNT of the YEAR poll :2thumbsup


EDIT: And it's just about the most active forum!
:laugh: :lol:

[Delirium]

delirium, you're 17, you may think you've learnt a lot about the road, and you want a super quick bike, sounds like a recipe for disaster, owning and crashing a fast car doesn't mean you've learnt anything about hazard detection if anything it means you've learnt very little, listen to mstrs and potentially save yourself a lot of pain, and money, when you took the cbr for a ride did you try doing some emergency stops or, turns? I found on my VFR the first time I rode it (similar riding position to the cbr) that it took a lot of getting used to the far more forward riding position and it took a lot of balls to just turn the thing hard, let alone being able to do it in an emergency

i was only on the cbr for about 2 minutes so no. but im organising a time where i can have a proper ride on it. also mstrs and i are organising a time where i can have a go on his sons vtr. i never said i want a super quick bike. infact i think im more interested in a bandit. but id like to ride one first and iv been making my way around the dealers in my area and i havent found one single 250 for sale. il be going to hastings tomorrow to have a look there and i bloody hope theres something.

[gamgee]

it costs about $400 to ship a bike from here to there :whistle:
so you could have mine for $3400 and you'd have everything you need to go, leathers helmet and all

[gamgee]

oh and before you buy anything, it wouldn't be a bad idea to check out the insurance cost, as for a 17 year old with a crash history, you'll be looking at around $1300-$1500 for full cover, and if you're financing the bike, i'm pretty sure you have to have full cover

[Delirium]

cheers for that i didnt think about that. i could be buying my mates helmet and jacket off him for cheap as he lost his licence lol.