Would you give a shit what happened to your old bike?

[TonyB]

Me thinks I'm gonna get some stick for this.

Meh.

If my cunning plans are indeed cunning and do go infact to plan, then my FZR1000 will be for sale soon. Its a fairly rare bike, as it was more expensive than the GSXR1100 and the 'bigger is better' theory meant most people went for the Suzuki. It's made even rarer because it still wears it's original fairings- there are still a few FZR's around, but most of them have done some tar surfing at some stage, so they have had a respray.

At Ruapuna on Saturday I told a few locals about my cunning plans, and the fact that the FZR will be sold if it all pans out. During the day a sidecar engine went up in a cloud of blue smoke- apparently a condrod decided to have a look at the outside world. Some time later Joni came up to me and said that I may have a buyer for my bike, he'll pay a good price etc etc. COOL I thought. Then I was told that the buyer would be the guy whose sidecar had expired, and he would be pulling the engine out of my bike and selling off the rest...

The idea really doesn't sit well with me. Its a nice bike, it goes great, and its RARE. I mean Tony Rees made a point of coming over and talking to me about it! A 17 year old bike! The original FZR1000 was the first open class Japanese bike to use a twin spar frame. This FZR1000 was the first open class bike to use a valve in the exhaust to increase the spread of torque by doing loads of complicated shit to the returning pressure waves etc. This FZR was the first open class Japanese bike to use 17" wheels- Suzuki carried on using an 18" rear for another two years. I really would rather not see it deliberately destroyed. Funnily enough my wife agrees. Can anyone else see my point of veiw?

[Karma]

Well it depends, which is worth more, the cash, or the knowledge that the bike has gone to a good home.

To be honest, unless you sell it to a museum or something then chances are it's gonna take a spill at some point, so take the cash and look forward, not back.

[Colapop]

Is it a one off? The reality is, once it's sold, it aint your bike and the new owner is free to do as they wish. If you cared that much, you wouldn't sell it.

[Bonez]

Do you want to get rid of it or not? If so sell it if the price is right. I'm sure the new owner will appreciate the performance of the engine in the "chair".

[beyond]

You can and do get attached to things but at the end of the day, it's still an inanamite object, just a piece of metal, plastic and parts. Even if they weren't going to use it for a race bike or whatever, anyone that buys it off you today, could write it off tomorrow anyway, no matter how much they were prepared to care for it.

[TonyB]

You can and do get attached to things but at the end of the day, it's still an inanamite object, just a piece of metal, plastic and parts. Even if they weren't going to use it for a race bike or whatever, anyone that buys it off you today, could write it off tomorrow anyway, no matter how much they were prepared to care for it.
True, but there is a difference between selling it knowing it's going to be parted out, and selling it to someone who wants to look after it but bins it.

Funnily enough, I'd love to see it go pre 89 racing. I'd prefer to keep it till pre 89 kicks off down here, but thats likely to be years off and money is tight as always.

[Mr. Peanut]

I don't like the idea of someone dying on a bike I sold em. Wouldn't sell it to someone without a clue.

[fazer]

Got rid of a yam fazer 1000 (in uk) for a BMW1200GS, biggest mistake I ever made.:( bmw a crock of shit!

[erik]

A bike's gotta die eventually.

But...

I think it's perfectly understandable to refuse to sell it to someone that's planning to pull it apart if you can afford to wait to find a buyer that says he'll keep it in one piece.

[sunhuntin]

i wish id kept my old bike...so i could scrap it and sell the parts to members on here. would have got more in the long run. but i sold it, and it was fixed up and is being used as a farm bike from what i know.

but my current bike...unless i write it off myself, id rather give it to dad, who i know will ride it well, than sell it to someone i dont know who would likely ride the shit out of it.

[Big Dave]

Nope - they are just machines. No sentimental value at all.

[pritch]

Not long after I sold my BMW K100RS it was written off. Later it was rebuilt and resprayed a different colour. Not the greatest spray job either.

It was no skin off my nose, but I was just a little saddened to see it in its somewhat reduced circumtances...

[Motu]

I've found parts of my bike on a wreckers floor,ready to be dumped.A bit sad,maybe some bits are still around getting good use.

[Pathos]

nah but only because I've trashed the old girl so badly myself.

Previous owner wasn't happy when he saw it after the first bin :/

[Kickaha]

Is it a one off? The reality is, once it's sold, it aint your bike and the new owner is free to do as they wish. If you cared that much, you wouldn't sell it.

What he said, personally I couldn't give a toss what happens to any of my bikes once they're sold, to me they're just a machine

looks like he may already have a motor on the go anyway :yes:

[The Pastor]

Let somone else have as much fun as they can with your old bike, if that means blowing it up in a big fireball so be it. Get a new bike!

Then again if your new bike isnt as good as your old one, buying it back might be an issue!

[T.W.R]

6 to 1, half a dozen of the other :cool: depends really some bikes you own over the years you get connected to, and others you don't.

Three bikes I've had from years gone by I still see once in a while, Two of them I'm always pleased to see in tip-top condition still and being looked after (kick myself for moving them on, but time & place dictated otherwise).

Have seen a couple of previously owned bikes in dealerships still going strong albeit slightly worse for wear.

Some bikes have been a pleasant sight heading out the gate in someone elses hands. The idea seems right getting the bike but once you get it, it never feels completely right and you never click with it.

[TonyB]

looks like he may already have a motor on the go anyway :yes:

Cool! I recommended that he go for a Thunder Ace engine, as it has the same dimensions but has lighter crank shaft etc and a 6 speed box (I think). Thinking about it now tho, I'm wondering if his old engine was from the original FZR? The original FZR engine has different dimensions. There used to be an article about it on the Yamaha Desigh Cafe, but they've changed the website and I can't be bothered figuring out how to work it.

[dangerous]

The idea really doesn't sit well with me. Its a nice bike, it goes great, and its RARE.

Hmmm, maybe I shouldnt have mentioned that your bike was up for sale in the side car camp, but they all looked so sad standing around the dead sidecar.
Thinking about it... keep the bike in one piece Tony, it is a very mint bike from yester year, at least once sold you will know you did ya best.
KEEP the bike for the open road and the rallys T.


I don't like the idea of someone dying on a bike I sold em. Wouldn't sell it to someone without a clue.

Funny you should say that... yesterday I was studing a Aprila RS125 in the window of Eric the Hoods, the sign on it said "ride this bike away on your learners"
FFS a learner on that sweet wee grunt box, will either end up dead or will knock the bike up to the hilt on HP then wreck it and owe shit loads on a rooted bike.
IMO very bad advertising, do bike/car sharks have no conscence?

[James Deuce]

IMO very bad advertising, do bike/car sharks have no consionence?

Some I've spoken to do. Just doing their jobs. They know how 15 year old boys think, and they've got people to feed themselves.

Tony, if you don't want to sell it to a particular buyer you don't have to.

I think you raise a valid point, but you're probably just a big over-emoting softy like me.

[stanko]

Whats the big deal , its only a Diesel. Now it it was a 2 stroke it would be different.

[imdying]

Funny you should say that... yesterday I was studing a Aprila RS125 in the window of Eric the Hoods, the sign on it said "ride this bike away on your learners"
FFS a learner on that sweet wee grunt box, will either end up dead or will knock the bike up to the hilt on HP then wreck it and owe shit loads on a rooted bike.
IMO very bad advertising, do bike/car sharks have no consionence?
If you've got the money, that's your call to make (at 15:lol:)

What I do object to however, is what amounts to little worse than rape... i.e. a certain dealer with 2x 1990 CBR250Rs for $5995, and a 91 CBR250RR for $6995. Selling things for considerable more than they're worth is illegal I thought... it's just a kick in the face for young guys wanting to get started.

[MSTRS]

I love seeing (pristine) old bikes. Sure would be a shame to know that yours would not continue it's existence. If your soft spot for it is big enough, then you wouldn't sell it at all. To anyone. For any reason.
Otherwise - sold is sold. It 's not your anymore. New owner can do what they will with it.

[Ralph]

I would sell my bike and not care if it got wrecked. It's the new owners choice to do with it as they please. It's not that I don't care if they bin it, no one likes to see a fellow biker down but I'd rather the bike get wrecked than the rider.

[TonyB]

KEEP the bike for the open road and the rallys T.


Wish I could, but I can't mate, simple as that. Paying out $290 a week on child care + paying a mortage = no spare cash

[SuperDave]

It's just a machine...

[dangerous]

The Tone mobile at question.

[scracha]

Me thinks I'm gonna get some stick for this.

FZR1000 will be for sale soon. Its a fairly rare bike, as it was more expensive than the GSXR1100 and the 'bigger is better' theory meant most people went for


Only stick I can give you is saying that they're a rare bike. Every man and his dog had a Genesis thou back in the day.

[TonyB]

Ah, but it's not the Genisis, its the EXUP

[ferretface]

Just seen the following on trademe....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=72011719&key=507338

"Person must be suitable"...."Only sell to someone who knows the Moto Guzzi way of life"

Some people are way too sentimental.

[geoffm]

Depends on the bike. The Beemer would go to the first person with cash, and I wouldn't care to much. The RG500 - only the true Gammarati need apply, and it could be a long, long wait.

[Joni]

My thought Tony and this was the reason I put you onto Alex... a bike is a machine that you happen to get lots of pleasure from. I reckon if you sell it, what a bonus if it can be used to make another smile as much as it has made you... Alex would have got as much pleasure out of it as you did, even though it was just the motor being used.

Thats all I would want, my bike to make someone else happy.

[dangerous]

Ah, but it's not the Genisis, its the EXUP

Whats the differance?

and whats the diff between your beast and this one on trademe http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-72361935.htm

[TonyB]

The EXUP was pretty much a totally new bike- different frame, major changes to the engine, better suspension, 17" wheels, more power, more midrange, different fairings. The one on trademe is the same as mine.... go figure