How 'bout a little courtesy, fellow biker?

[apteryx_haasti]

Hi there -

I have a little rant for the biker who was in front of me on the Wgtn motorway heading into the Hutt this evening...

If you are lane splitting, and a bike comes up behind you and is clearly able to go faster than you, then PLEASE pull into a space and let the faster rider past. It's really hard to follow you without getting too close, and concentrating on what you're up to makes it hard for me to pay attention to other things - like the cars and what THEY'RE up to.

OK, I am not a super fast lane splitter myself, which is why I keep an eye on my mirror for anyone coming up behind me and I get out of their way. This usually results in a friendly wave.

Perhaps you didn't see me there, although I doubt it, but I thought you might have figured it out when I pulled in to let a faster bike through (thanks for the wave, yellow bike!), who then had to pass you by using an "interesting" manouver when you didn't/wouldn't get out of their way.

AM I being a bitch - or is a request for a bit of biker courtesy OK in this situation?

End rant - deep breath and a nice cold beer...

A_H

[Colapop]

So you were trying to pass a slower bike while lane splitting? Just trying to get a clear picture of what was happening.

Hope you're not pissed I passed you on Sunday...

[Waylander]

Ever think that maybe they are too busy concentrating on the cars ahead?

Can I ask you something, when riding with newbies do you pass them really closely and at high speed? or do you take your time and be carefull to make sure they are comfortable with what you are doing?

[Fub@r]

For me if I see a faster bike coming up I always move over and let them pass. Always get a wave to say thanks :)

[sunhuntin]

exactly why im glad i dont have to lane spilt, lol.

also why i dislike riding in groups. few group rides back, got overtaken by some guy with a really wide jap v-twin. dunno what it was. but he was sitting to my left front. every time the group slowed down, id nearly run into him cos he wouldnt move over. i was basically riding as close to the center line as i felt safe to, and he was mid-lane. i was trying to ride so those behind me could see my moves clearly, but he made that impossible...didnt use his brakes, only engine braking, so i didnt realise he was slowing till i nearly ran into him.

[redbaron36]

That seems reasonalbe to me. i do the same. he with the fastest wheels wins the race to the office ... year off you go then.

[apteryx_haasti]

Ever think that maybe they are too busy concentrating on the cars ahead?

Can I ask you something, when riding with newbies do you pass them really closely and at high speed? or do you take your time and be carefull to make sure they are comfortable with what you are doing?

Hi there - I am a newbie myself, which is why I didn't try and get past, but hung back hoping they would realise I was there and would move over. I wouldn't pass someone without making sure they knew what I was doing AND I don't think my bike reaches anything resembling "high speed"!

I am pretty sure they knew I was there, because I saw them look at me in their mirror.

(PS - Col - nope, not pissed about being passed on Sunday - like I said, I try and keep an eye out and let faster traffic past (car or bike!))

[apteryx_haasti]

So you were trying to pass a slower bike while lane splitting? Just trying to get a clear picture of what was happening.

Hope you're not pissed I passed you on Sunday...

To clarify - I came up behind another bike who was also lane splitting. If I was the front bike and a faster bike came up behind me (which happens quite frequently, ha ha!) I would move into a gap in a lane as soon as I could, to let the other bike past. Then I would come back out and continue on my way.

Clear as mud?

[imdying]

exactly why im glad i dont have to lane spilt, lol.

also why i dislike riding in groups. few group rides back, got overtaken by some guy with a really wide jap v-twin. dunno what it was. but he was sitting to my left front. every time the group slowed down, id nearly run into him cos he wouldnt move over. i was basically riding as close to the center line as i felt safe to, and he was mid-lane. i was trying to ride so those behind me could see my moves clearly, but he made that impossible...didnt use his brakes, only engine braking, so i didnt realise he was slowing till i nearly ran into him.Don't follow so close then.

OP, don't be so impatient if you must split, it'll bugger your concentration which'll only end up with you kissing the tarmac.

[DingDong]

No excuses... no one has said it so I will, lane splitting is the most dangerous motorcycle act and unless your crawling past cars that aint moving your an idiot... whats the rush!?... I hate (HATE!) fools splitting moving traffic at speed, I've seen guys doing 70k+ through traffic doing 20K... its not fun!, you aint cool!... you just give bikers a bad name, and you will crash, too many variables.

NO your not right to complain about this rider...

[apteryx_haasti]

No excuses... no one has said it so I will, lane splitting is the most dangerous motorcycle act and unless your crawling past cars that aint moving your an idiot... whats the rush!?... I hate (HATE!) fools splitting moving traffic at speed, I've seen guys doing 70k+ through traffic doing 20K... its not fun!, you aint cool!... you just give bikers a bad name, and you will crash, too many variables.

NO your not right to complain about this rider...

We were crawling past cars that weren't moving - but point taken. (1) Lane splitting should be done with care at all times and (2) I am not as good at it as I think! [and (3) take a chill pill.]

Will remember this if a similar situation occurs.

CHeers.

[DingDong]

Good on ya... next time your up north the TGA Kbers will show you what a bin looks like:cool:

[Waylander]

No excuses... no one has said it so I will, lane splitting is the most dangerous motorcycle act and unless your crawling past cars that aint moving your an idiot... whats the rush!?... I hate (HATE!) fools splitting moving traffic at speed, I've seen guys doing 70k+ through traffic doing 20K... its not fun!, you aint cool!... you just give bikers a bad name, and you will crash, too many variables.

NO your not right to complain about this rider...
Dammit man, I only go fast as in the
Marina entrance cause everyone stops through there for no fucking reason and I want to get past as many of the idiots as I can.
The rest of the time I'm filtering I'm only going maybe 8kmh faster than the rest of traffic.

And when I come up on a bike filltering slower than me. I wait behind them. I know I would rather be watching what the cars ahead of me are doing than worrying about another bike comming up behind me.

And oddly enough I have yet to crash in traffic.

[skelstar]

Hang on I dont get something...

Col PASSED someone on Sunday?



:Pokey:

[riffer]

Phew. For a minute there I thought it was someone complaining about me cutting them up in the Welly traffic.

I've had to pass a few slow splitters lately... each to their own. Most people get out of the way. If I crash its my fault. I'll accept that.

It can get a little irritating when you feel that the guy in front hasn't noticed you. I've talked to a few guys about it after being held up and the majority have seen me, they just didn't feel that it was safe to pull over and let me through.

[DingDong]

Dammit man, I only go fast as in the
Marina entrance cause everyone stops through there for no fucking reason and I want to get past as many of the idiots as I can.
The rest of the time I'm filtering I'm only going maybe 8kmh faster than the rest of traffic.

And when I come up on a bike filltering slower than me. I wait behind them. I know I would rather be watching what the cars ahead of me are doing than worrying about another bike comming up behind me.

And oddly enough I have yet to crash in traffic.

LOL:lol: I wasnt actually thinking of you when I posted that Ay?... but now you mention it Ay? :lol: I was thinking a YZF600 that filters past me on my way home from work... Ay?... shessshhh.... bloody Canadians Ay?

[Waylander]

LOL:lol: I wasnt actually thinking of you when I posted that Ay?... but now you mention it Ay? :lol: I was thinking a YZF600 that filters past me on my way home from work... Ay?... shessshhh.... bloody Canadians Ay?
lol checked my sig link yet?

Just so used to you digging at me for that. Havn't seen any YZF600 so must be at a different time than when I'm headed home. Seen a guy on a DucatiSS 750 nearly take me out a couple times. And a Speed Tripple aswell.

[mstriumph]

No excuses... no one has said it so I will, lane splitting is the most dangerous motorcycle act .................

mebbe no one has said it because many of us don't believe it's true?

no - i'm not advocating aggressive splitting at more than 20ks faster than the surrounding traffic or supporting those otherwise behaving like a hoon, endangering the splitter and everyone else

but, provided it's done with proper care and with attention to the traffic pattern and road conditions, lanesplitting is a legitimate, legal and sensible use of the road - a useful tool and one better mastered than maligned.


........ here endeth the first lesson :( :wari: - sorry - i KNOW i carry on a bit but i've been splitting for a long time and it bothers me when someone wants to decry the entire practice because it's abused by a few hoons ......

[diggydog]

Dammit man, I only go fast as in the
Marina entrance cause everyone stops through there for no fucking reason and I want to get past as many of the idiots as I can.
The rest of the time I'm filtering I'm only going maybe 8kmh faster than the rest of traffic.

And when I come up on a bike filltering slower than me. I wait behind them. I know I would rather be watching what the cars ahead of me are doing than worrying about another bike comming up behind me.

And oddly enough I have yet to crash in traffic.
well said there,lane spilting is ok to a degree with every other thing happening around you, that would'nt be a priority, but would move over when it was safe, thats when i'm riding safely .:2thumbsup

[apteryx_haasti]

Thanks everyone - I appreciate all your views. I'm here to learn, so I find it pretty helpful to hear what people think about these issues that bemuse me...

(PS - Skelstar, yes, but I'm REALLY slow....)

[bert_is_evil]

If you're lane splitting and the bike in front of you hasn't moved over to let you past then it indicates that they probably haven't seen you as they're concentrating on the cars around them, I would consider it pretty dangerous to pass (or follow closely) in that situation - even if there is room for you to edge past the slightest flinch from them and you're both toast.

[Freakshow]

Hi there -

I have a little rant for the biker who was in front of me on the Wgtn motorway heading into the Hutt this evening...

If you are lane splitting, and a bike comes up behind you and is clearly able to go faster than you, then PLEASE pull into a space and let the faster rider past. It's really hard to follow you without getting too close, and concentrating on what you're up to makes it hard for me to pay attention to other things - like the cars and what THEY'RE up to.

OK, I am not a super fast lane splitter myself, which is why I keep an eye on my mirror for anyone coming up behind me and I get out of their way. This usually results in a friendly wave.

Perhaps you didn't see me there, although I doubt it, but I thought you might have figured it out when I pulled in to let a faster bike through (thanks for the wave, yellow bike!), who then had to pass you by using an "interesting" manouver when you didn't/wouldn't get out of their way.

AM I being a bitch - or is a request for a bit of biker courtesy OK in this situation?

End rant - deep breath and a nice cold beer...

A_H

Hang on your on a Ginny and the person in front was slower???

[Str8 Jacket]

Hang on your on a Ginny and the person in front was slower???

Its not WHAT you ride, its HOW you ride it. Last year sometime a GN250 was on one of TRTNR's and as far as im aware the guy riding it was keeping up with, if not in front of the 1000cc guy's. Granted he is/was a very good racer, but just goes to show!...

[slimjim]

We were crawling past cars that weren't moving - but point taken. (1) Lane splitting should be done with care at all times and (2) I am not as good at it as I think! [and (3) take a chill pill.]

Will remember this if a similar situation occurs.

CHeers.

:Pokey: you wanta see yourself through to a 600, then ride to stay upright :Playnice:

[Fatjim]

AM I being a bitch - or is a request for a bit of biker courtesy OK in this situation?

A_H

Even GN's have a horn. A couple of peeps should have any doubt about how obnoxious (sp?) he is. If he can't pull over cause he's scared, he shouldn't be on the motorway.


No excuses... no one has said it so I will, lane splitting is the most dangerous motorcycle act and unless your crawling past cars that aint moving your an idiot...


From persoanl experience this is bullshit. I find it far more dangerous not to lane split. And I'm not making this up. I've had to avoid more cages whileriding steadily in a lane than when I lane split. I also find a high level of concentration is easier to maintain on a 20 min lane split ride, than a 60 min rat race ride. Both due to the duration, AND the lane splitting.

Another thing, riding on the motorway in heavy traffic is more dangerous at some speeds than others.

This is because at slower speeds cars tend to be closer together and are more likely to swerve. This means you have less time to react, and less room to menouver. Also when traffic goes from a standstill to moving then people are more likely to take the gaps that appear to change lanes. This is often done in "stealth" mode, without indicators so that the gap isn't blocked by the following car. Be very carefull in slow traffic when you're approaching or in a gap.

At higher speeds, cars don't change lanes so quickly and they are much further apart. Above 80kph tends to be a stress free speed to lane split.

[James Deuce]

No excuses... no one has said it so I will, lane splitting is the most dangerous motorcycle act and unless your crawling past cars that aint moving your an idiot... whats the rush!?... I hate (HATE!) fools splitting moving traffic at speed, I've seen guys doing 70k+ through traffic doing 20K... its not fun!, you aint cool!... you just give bikers a bad name, and you will crash, too many variables.

NO your not right to complain about this rider...

Ignoring the grammatical errors, the single most dangerous act on a motorcycle is entering an intersection, followed by passing a side street or driveway, followed by riding with a group of motorcyclists you've never ridden with before.

Lanesplitting is a long way down the list, and as the lovely Mstriumph has already mentioned there's lanesplitting, and then there is lanesplitting.

[Fub@r]

When I lane split I have my own "comfort" criteria. If the traffic movement is outside that I won't split even though there are some bikes still doing it, which to me seems rather risky. If the traffic gets up to a steady 50-60kph I won't split, below that I will however still with extreme caution.

Riding in Auckland stop/start traffic especially following people in automatics who just creep without using accelerator feels dangerous to me as you are in the zone of trying to maintain balance and/or prepare to put feet down. Also constantly having to keep an eye behind you for the idiots not paying attention in cars, using cellphones, putting makeup on etc. eg this morning I was following a woman on the motorway doing her eyelashes! People like that dont see stopped traffic and have accidents, I would rather be lane splitting than potentially a bike sandwich to an inattentive driver

See some guys lane splitting at 80kph or more when the traffic is moving close to that just seems nuts to me

[bgd]

I'm with Apteryx on this. When filtering it is inconsiderate and ignorant not to let faster traffic through. Even a newbie should check their mirrors once in a while and know what is behind them. Filtering is all about making progress and bikes shouldn't delay others, that's for cages.

[skidz]

Hell, Ionly lane-split when it's safe to do so, which is most of the time. I don't like cagers sitting right up my rear end as if I have to brake it ends up more than a tickle when we connect.

[DingDong]

I just wanna say... I'm not against lane splitting, I do it all the time... but I'm against someone getting pissed off cause they want another rider to either ride faster or get outta the way...

OK Jim... so I cant spell... get over it already, and altho you think it's not dangerous... you should have a go at filtering at 70kph...

[DingDong]

mebbe no one has said it because many of us don't believe it's true?


........ here endeth the first lesson :( :wari: - sorry - i KNOW i carry on a bit but i've been splitting for a long time and it bothers me when someone wants to decry the entire practice because it's abused by a few hoons ......

I'm not saying dont lane split... every act on a motorcycle is dangerous... depending on how your riding at the time, making a judgement on the abilities of another rider in a dangerous situation is just plain wrong...

[Fub@r]

eg: today was lane splitting away on north western, checked behind me a few times........then I hear a rumble. Nice yellow Ducati behind me plus one more, I found a gap and moved over then tucked in behind them. If your a KB'r hope I didn't hold you up for too long :cool:

[James Deuce]

I just wanna say... I'm not against lane splitting, I do it all the time... but I'm against someone getting pissed off cause they want another rider to either ride faster or get outta the way...

OK Jim... so I cant spell... get over it already, and altho you think it's not dangerous... you should have a go at filtering at 70kph...

Look, riding a bike is dangerous.

But for goodness sake, ride your own bike, will you?

[DingDong]

Look, riding a bike is dangerous.

But for goodness sake, ride your own bike, will you?

Shit we dont even have a dissagreement here!? and now your talking to me like I'm a bloody kid... maybe a face2face debate would sort the matter...

I think your come-back is weak... tell you what... you do your thing and I'll do mine... I'll forget the personal attacks OK?

[crazybigal]

If you fuckn lanesplit me and i havnt seen you and you hit me on the left, ill split your head open!!
Im normally to busy watching what the dumb cager in front of me is doing to watch out for people trying to pass me on the left in my lane! about a week ago i had a gold (cow poo yellow) triamph daytona? split me, i thought ok i didt hear or see you and if id moved to the left in my land we would have hit at about 50-60km not nice! So if your going to do it make sure the bike in front knows your there and moves for you before you split him.
If you try and take me out ill follow you home and beat you with your own bike! :banana: :banana: Take care out there, those cagers are out to get you!!




We were crawling past cars that weren't moving - but point taken. (1) Lane splitting should be done with care at all times and (2) I am not as good at it as I think! [and (3) take a chill pill.]

Will remember this if a similar situation occurs.

CHeers.

[Deano]

Its not WHAT you ride, its HOW you ride it. Last year sometime a GN250 was on one of TRTNR's and as far as im aware the guy riding it was keeping up with, if not in front of the 1000cc guy's. Granted he is/was a very good racer, but just goes to show!...

No no no!! Haven't you learnt that as long as your'e on a GSXR you will beat any other bike on the road ?:whistle:

[apteryx_haasti]

If you fuckn lanesplit me and i havnt seen you and you hit me on the left, ill split your head open!!
Im normally to busy watching what the dumb cager in front of me is doing to watch out for people trying to pass me on the left in my lane! about a week ago i had a gold (cow poo yellow) triamph daytona? split me, i thought ok i didt hear or see you and if id moved to the left in my land we would have hit at about 50-60km not nice! So if your going to do it make sure the bike in front knows your there and moves for you before you split him.
If you try and take me out ill follow you home and beat you with your own bike! :banana: :banana: Take care out there, those cagers are out to get you!!

Hmm...your post makes me think perhaps I am using the wrong terminology. I'm talking about riding between the two lines of cars. I don't think there's enough room in this "lane" to pass another bike - whether on the right or left.

If going between the two lanes of cars is not called lane splitting, what is it called? Better get this biker lingo right!
:spanking:

[Colapop]

S'alright mate that's the right words. Crazy may have misinterpreted your post perhaps. Knowing (as little as I do - but having met you) I'd find it hard to believe you were riding agressively or dangerously. If someone is riding in a manner that causes you to be concerned for your safety, then either pass them when it is safe to do so and you have plenty of room or back off and ride safely within the normal lanes of traffic. Sometimes it's not only cagers that are irresponsible and unsafe on the road.

[Drum]

So, it looks like we're all agreed then.:cool:

[Fatjim]

Hmm...your post makes me think perhaps I am using the wrong terminology. I'm talking about riding between the two lines of cars. I don't think there's enough room in this "lane" to pass another bike - whether on the right or left.

If going between the two lanes of cars is not called lane splitting, what is it called? Better get this biker lingo right!
:spanking:

Na, crazybigal is one of those wierdos that rides his bike like a car, in a lane.

p/t

[Colapop]

You're an angry man, James...

[crazybigal]

hey i lane split but only low speed and i dont sneek up on other bikes and pass them on their left in their lane, thats just asking to be taken out!
I dont know about you but i ride to survive!



Na, crazybigal is one of those wierdos that rides his bike like a car, in a lane.

p/t

[crazybigal]

riding between 2 lanes of cars is spliting, in theroy you have to be either in the left of the right lane or the right of the left lane dont you.
unless you like riding white lines??


Hmm...your post makes me think perhaps I am using the wrong terminology. I'm talking about riding between the two lines of cars. I don't think there's enough room in this "lane" to pass another bike - whether on the right or left.

If going between the two lanes of cars is not called lane splitting, what is it called? Better get this biker lingo right!
:spanking:

[Gremlin]

in theroy you have to be either in the left of the right lane or the right of the left lane dont you.
and one of those is legal, and one definitely isn't...

Tell you what... all of you that think splitting is really dangerous etc etc yada yada... try sitting in traffic, in the fast lane, it slows, and you flash your brakes a bit, and slow down, on the engine. Then you hear a screech from behind...

you look in the mirrors, and see a car coming up fast. You duck to the left hand side of the lane, and a car pulls up next to you, on the right. Now tell me splitting is more dangerous.

I have split at most speeds, and speed differentials of 70+. As long as you have enough space, and reaction time to react to anything that could happen, I view it as ok, and I have indeed been tested. No accidents yet *touch wood*

Sitting in traffic, I have almost been hit from behind multiple times, had cars move into my space from another lane countless times etc. While splitting, I tend to have a MUCH higher level of concentration... just the way it is.

That said... it doesn't matter if the bike is splitting or not, they could start at any moment. I always take care around other bikes. Pull up behind, rev, and wait. If I end up waiting too long, I'll switch bike lane, and split past, then resume my trip...

[crazybigal]

well your a brave man spliting at 70+ in auckland! hats off to ya!
I was up their not so long ago and people dont know what those funny little orange lights are for on their cars up there! i saw so many cars just switch lanes at random on the southern.


and one of those is legal, and one definitely isn't...

Tell you what... all of you that think splitting is really dangerous etc etc yada yada... try sitting in traffic, in the fast lane, it slows, and you flash your brakes a bit, and slow down, on the engine. Then you hear a screech from behind...

you look in the mirrors, and see a car coming up fast. You duck to the left hand side of the lane, and a car pulls up next to you, on the right. Now tell me splitting is more dangerous.

I have split at most speeds, and speed differentials of 70+. As long as you have enough space, and reaction time to react to anything that could happen, I view it as ok, and I have indeed been tested. No accidents yet *touch wood*

Sitting in traffic, I have almost been hit from behind multiple times, had cars move into my space from another lane countless times etc. While splitting, I tend to have a MUCH higher level of concentration... just the way it is.

That said... it doesn't matter if the bike is splitting or not, they could start at any moment. I always take care around other bikes. Pull up behind, rev, and wait. If I end up waiting too long, I'll switch bike lane, and split past, then resume my trip...

[skidz]

I supose that's why Gremlin rides a green bike. (too be seen )

[Fatjim]

That said... it doesn't matter if the bike is splitting or not, they could start at any moment. I always take care around other bikes. Pull up behind, rev, and wait. If I end up waiting too long, I'll switch bike lane, and split past, then resume my trip...


If you fuckn lanesplit me and i havnt seen you and you hit me on the left, ill split your head open!!

This is a really good point to the those lanesplitting. The bike in front of you apparently not lane splitting may be just about to start. Man you'll look silly to cages if you hit another motorcyclist.


When splittiing past a bike (thats still lane spliting) MAKE SURE HE/SHE HAS SEEN YOU.

I personally never overtake another motorcyclinst in the same lane unless that motorcyclist has made some signal to pass, either by looking in his mirrors and moving out of the way in an obvious fashion, or the use of a hand signal.

If the guy won't/can't use his mirror, WAIT FOR THE ADJACENT LANE TO FREE UP SO YOU CAN PASS SAFELY.

[DingDong]

Tell you what... all of you that think splitting is really dangerous etc etc yada yada... try sitting in traffic, in the fast lane, it slows, and you flash your brakes a bit, and slow down, on the engine. Then you hear a screech from behind...

I have split at most speeds, and speed differentials of 70+. As long as you have enough space, and reaction time to react to anything that could happen, I view it as ok, and I have indeed been tested. No accidents yet *touch wood*

... I tend to have a MUCH higher level of concentration...


When comming up on traffic, stop signs, lights etc... you should place your bike in the right side of the lane, eyes on mirrors and place a finger on the break (to show your break light) and leave it there until you stop... if some idiot behind you looks a little hot you have a gap beside the car in front where you can lane-split or you can scoot around the traffic light to avoid being hit.
Lane splitting in heavy traffic at 70+ is reserved for Jedi's... lane splitting at 160k on the open road is just overtaking... I wonder if this is where some of our differences lie?
But either way as crazybigal said " dont spilt ther splitter"

[Hawkeye]

I split when the lines are crawling but once they start to move at a reasonable pace, it's back into the lane. I also keep an eye on the mirrors for 'faster' splitters and move over 'WHEN I CAN'. I check the mirrors when it is safe for me to take my eyes off the cages.
We all ride within our comfort zone but everybody's comfort zone is different. Yes the rider in front may be coming up to a gap that you think they could move into. However, they may have been so focused on keeping an eye on the cager's actions that they have not checked their mirrors for faster bikes for a liitle while.
Following faster bikes should try to have a little patience. It is the passing bikers responsibility to pass safely.:calm:

[slowpoke]

Hi there -

I have a little rant for the biker who was in front of me on the Wgtn motorway heading into the Hutt this evening...

If you are lane splitting, and a bike comes up behind you and is clearly able to go faster than you, then PLEASE pull into a space and let the faster rider past. It's really hard to follow you without getting too close, and concentrating on what you're up to makes it hard for me to pay attention to other things - like the cars and what THEY'RE up to.

OK, I am not a super fast lane splitter myself, which is why I keep an eye on my mirror for anyone coming up behind me and I get out of their way. This usually results in a friendly wave.

Perhaps you didn't see me there, although I doubt it, but I thought you might have figured it out when I pulled in to let a faster bike through (thanks for the wave, yellow bike!), who then had to pass you by using an "interesting" manouver when you didn't/wouldn't get out of their way.

AM I being a bitch - or is a request for a bit of biker courtesy OK in this situation?

End rant - deep breath and a nice cold beer...

A_H

I reckon lane splitting is ok but surely it's taking the piss when you think someone else is lane splitting too slow. Gawd forbid you should arrive at the next set of lights 10seconds later than you would have liked.
Forget courtesy, if I'm riding I'm mostly concentrating on what's in front of me, the last thing I should have to worry about is a fellow biker right up my clacker....especially an over eager noobie on a GN250.
A common phrase seems to be something along the lines of "make sure the other rider has seen you".....now tell me exactly how the phuck do you do that? Please don't tell me you are relying on what you think is eye contact.
As a noobie, if you come up behind someone take it as a sign that you are going too fast, not that they are going too slow.

[slowpoke]

I can't believe someone was pissed off enough to start this thread.....and I can't believe I was stoopid enough to respond....that's nightshift for ya......

[DingDong]

Impatient GN250 pushing an R1 thru traffic... there would be a fight for sure:banana:

[Fub@r]

Impatient GN250 pushing an R1 thru traffic... there would be a fight for sure:banana:

Hey dont knock the Ginny :) Had a few people move over for me coming through splitting. Auckland rush hour the Ginny is plenty fast enough :cool:

[sunhuntin]

Hey dont knock the Ginny :) Had a few people move over for me coming through splitting. Auckland rush hour the Ginny is plenty fast enough :cool:

i am so glad i live in a place where "lane splitting" is not common practise! gawd...lol. id never heard of such a thing till i came here! lololololol. if im running at such a pace that i get too close to the vehicle in front, ill slow down till im happy with the gap...extreme slowness, and ill over take.

[MattRSK]

i am so glad i live in a place where "lane splitting" is not common practise! gawd...lol. id never heard of such a thing till i came here! lololololol. if im running at such a pace that i get too close to the vehicle in front, ill slow down till im happy with the gap...extreme slowness, and ill over take.

all those horses + carts in wanganui i find it hard not to split.

[Gremlin]

well, sorry for bringing up an old thread... but I haven't checked back in... but I feel as if I should respond....


well your a brave man spliting at 70+ in auckland! hats off to ya!
no... not really... I realised after a period that it was getting crazy, and I was going at faster and faster speeds (22km to uni in height of rush hour - usually less than 30 min including half the distance being residential - and not speeding in that) ... Luckily the job I have now allows me to usually not be on the motorway during rush hour, its a short trip with little splitting etc. Splitting at a 50+ differential in pouring rain, while fun at the time... was not the smartest thing. What scared me was how normal it felt.

I own a green bike because it was the bike I wanted... there were no black ones... and the other common scheme was red purple and white :sick:


Lane splitting in heavy traffic at 70+ is reserved for Jedi's... lane splitting at 160k on the open road is just overtaking... I wonder if this is where some of our differences lie?
No... any monkey can overtake cars on the open road at 160+... and many do. That said, any monkey can attempt to do 70+ differentials down the motorway in rush hour... the question is whether or not you survive long term.

As for lights.. well, it can be argued to position yourself just about anywhere in a lane... I have been on the right, and had cars pull alongside on the left... center is good defensively, but not for debris/oil, especially in the wet.

[Drum]

Some of the craziest lane splitters I see have L plates on.
Still some lessons to learn I guess.

[mstriumph]

Some of the craziest lane splitters I see have L plates on.
..........

natural selection in action :yes:

[Balding Eagle]

I don't lane split unless I think it is really safe. I reckon it is too easy for an idiot in a cage to get agro and move over to cut you off. That said, I would not get upset with someone in front not moving over because I don't know what their ability or experience is like and the last thing I would want to do is put pressure on another rider to the extent it might cause them some grief. My advice is, patience is a virtue and very necessary when riding in high volume cageville. And if you are late and in a hurry, remember it is better to be late than dead on time. MHO