Radar Jammers

[Shaun]

Does anyone know if a Blinder M20 X-TREME will work on a Bike?

[Dafe]

Yes, it would.

A jammer is simply a receiver with a responsive transmitter.
It will work regardless of your vehicle type.

Your only issue to deal with is getting a good mounting point that will not block your transmitter.

The only question I'd be querying is the current draw required as most transmitters usually require a fair amount of power. You'll probably need to fuse it on its own fuse.

Have a look here too. http://www.radarbusters.com/support/stealth-street-bike/blinder-laser-jammer-install.asp

All specialsed radar parts are available in NZ through a company called "Radar Direct".

http://www.radardirect.co.nz/

[dangerous]

Does anyone know if a Blinder M20 X-TREME will work on a Bike?

The M20 is a "laser Jammer" not radar... and I have seen them on a couple of bikes down here, the M20 works well.
However... it is aparently illegal to "use" one as it interfears with piglet doing there job, you can buy one you can own one you can even have it on the bike switched on, but at the point were it does what its intended is a no no.

But it has to be proved that it interfered with police work and if its done the job then theres no proof that it did.
I'd have one if I had the coin, not that there s a lot of lasetrs down here.
Try mounting under the feiring below the head lignt as thats what Mr piggy will be aiming at.
IIRC it works by absorbing the light beam stoping it being reflected back, giving a 0kph reading

[Dafe]

The second your Jammer is turned on, It is illegal.

Because you are not a registered user of that frequency, you need to be registered with the Department of Economic Developments Radio Spectrum division as a registered user for that frequency. Otherwise, you're transmitting illegally.

However, The Police proving you used it is difficult. When detecting a cop, use it to get back to legal speed limits and then switch it off immediately.

[Blackbird]

Here's the Blinder laser jammer test: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=33984&page=2. It's one of two that actually works. I'm pretty sure that CartertonRyan can supply you one through Trade Me. I'm not sure that it is actually illegal under any broadcasting laws as it's not radio frequency, but what about perverting the course of justice or somesuch. It's irrelevant anyway, not the sort of thing that's exactly obvious on your bike eh?

Cheers

Geoff

[Shaun]

Thanks for replies, I was a bit concerned about the legallity of it, as well as the fitting instructions say to place recevers 500-600 mm apart, hence my main question

Has anyone got one or no of someone using it on a bike, as it is impossible to fit as per the instructions

[Kflasher]

Has anyone used and or tested the "Rocky Mountain Radar Detector & Laser Scrambler DLS315", they are all over the 'Trade-Me' site.
I have never owned one... I feel it may be time.
I have found info regarding overseas test, but does this relate to NZ.

[Blackbird]

Has anyone used and or tested the "Rocky Mountain Radar Detector & Laser Scrambler DLS315", they are all over the 'Trade-Me' site.
I have never owned one... I feel it may be time.
I have found info regarding overseas test, but does this relate to NZ.

Rocky Mountain products have a terrible reputation in independent tests if you do a decent net search, but have no direct experience. Best to be avoided methinks.

[Blackbird]

Thanks for replies, I was a bit concerned about the legallity of it, as well as the fitting instructions say to place recevers 500-600 mm apart, hence my main question

Has anyone got one or no of someone using it on a bike, as it is impossible to fit as per the instructions

Have a look at this, it might be of some help: www.radarbusters.com/support/stealth-street-bike/blinder-laser-jammer-install.asp - 16k -

P.S You are to be admired for considering the legality of the jammers, but what about the legality of the speeds that makes you want to fit it in the first place, haha

[Kflasher]

Rocky Mountain products have a terrible reputation in independent tests if you do a decent net search, but have no direct experience. Best to be avoided methinks.

Cheers, hence the price i spose.

[ghost]

Have a look at this, it might be of some help: www.radarbusters.com/support/stealth-street-bike/blinder-laser-jammer-install.asp - 16k -

P.S You are to be admired for considering the legality of the jammers, but what about the legality of the speeds that makes you want to fir it in the first place, haha

Yup what a few others have already said, only radio frequencies are licenced in NZ, so visible and nonvisible light are ok to transmit, it is an offence to interfere with law enforcement equipment and thats what they would get you on if they could prove it, but as to the legality of speed, overtake a car on the open road and have a glance at your speed, its only momentary but a lot of you criminals would be walking home or catching a ride. they would save you from those embarising moments

[Shaun]

Have a look at this, it might be of some help: www.radarbusters.com/support/stealth-street-bike/blinder-laser-jammer-install.asp - 16k -

P.S You are to be admired for considering the legality of the jammers, but what about the legality of the speeds that makes you want to fit it in the first place, haha


Hardehaha, I was actually making sure a customer of mine is not going to land in a pile of PO for having it fitted

[Fatjim]

Hardehaha, I was actually making sure a customer of mine is not going to land in a pile of PO for having it fitted

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BTW, from my understanding the coppers either aim for your headlight or your visor. That means the best place to put the receiver would be half way between. The xmitter should go as high a possible for maximum effect. Maybe on the top of your chopper flag?

Cars are easier as the plod generally aims at the number plate, and you have plenty or real estate to mount bits onto.

[sAsLEX]

IIRC it works by absorbing the light beam stoping it being reflected back, giving a 0kph reading

No they transmit a signal backto the cop to confuse his equipment


The second your Jammer is turned on, It is illegal.

Because you are not a registered user of that frequency, you need to be registered with the Department of Economic Developments Radio Spectrum division as a registered user for that frequency. Otherwise, you're transmitting illegally.

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Umm no one sells radar jammers here, we is talking about light which no one controls


PM has been sent.

Why not give us all the info, or will that stop the revenue gathering!

[Rogue Rider]

Hi, I have one on my bike. I spoke to my policeman freind and he assures me having it is not illegal, but operating it dilleberatly if proven is perverting the cause of justice. The key with it is that you use it until you find the trap, slow down to appropriate speed then switch off on your consul. This allows them to attain a reading which is what they are after. If you leave it switched on then of coarse your breaking the law as you are preventing them getting a reading. Provided they get a reading you are within the perameters of the law. In regard to the 600mm apart, for a car install the censors need to be 600mm apart on each side of the vehicle, which means you would need 2 sets for a CAR to cover front and back. On a bike they need to be mounted centre front and centre rear, one censor only each end. This is to allow for total cover of your vehicle/bike. They also need to be 100% level to work properly, and might I recomend discretely located to avoid interegation as police don't all share common views and certainly have differing attitudes. I have a freind here who does them alot for top end euro cars as well as full gps nav systems. He is alot cheaper than shops and fits them as well. Email me if you want his details. :spanking:

[Blackbird]

Hi, I have one on my bike. I spoke to my policeman freind and he assures me having it is not illegal, but operating it dilleberatly if proven is perverting the cause of justice. The key with it is that you use it until you find the trap, slow down to appropriate speed then switch off on your consul. This allows them to attain a reading which is what they are after. If you leave it switched on then of coarse your breaking the law as you are preventing them getting a reading. Provided they get a reading you are within the perameters of the law.

I'm a bit confused. Surely the only way it triggers is getting hit with the laser beam. How can you slow down once you've been pinged unless you mean let them ping you a second time? Sorry to be dense.:weep:

[sAsLEX]

I'm a bit confused. Surely the only way it triggers is getting hit with the laser beam. How can you slow down once you've been pinged unless you mean let them ping you a second time? Sorry to be dense.:weep:

They are both a detector and a emitter, so once you see you are being painted by laser, it beeps or something, and you then slow down to legal speeds whilst the emitter is covering your arse, then turn it off while doing 99 so the cop then gets a reading of that



they may wonder why you did that near stoppie though..........

[Blackbird]

:2thumbsup Ah - see what you mean now. Duhhhhh it's been a long day. Thanks

I don't know whether it applies to the blinder, but one of them only jams for 5 secs anyway and takes a minute to reset.

[Skyryder]

Rocky Mountain products have a terrible reputation in independent tests if you do a decent net search, but have no direct experience. Best to be avoided methinks. I ran into a guy who had a Rocky Mountain jammer. He swore by it. They do have a bad rep. Thing is where does the bad rep originaly come from?

I've been interested in this for some time just can not make my mind up which way to go; jammer or detector.

Skyryder

[Blackbird]

I ran into a guy who had a Rocky Mountain jammer. He swore by it. They do have a bad rep. Thing is where does the bad rep originaly come from?

I've been interested in this for some time just can not make my mind up which way to go; jammer or detector.

Skyryder

The tests I've read say they don't work. I'm pretty sure they are what is called a passive jammer as opposed to the active Blinder. (passive don't work by the physics explanation given on one website)

If it's to be one or the other, I'd say a detector simply because lasers aren't so prevalent as Ka band microwave used by the Highway Patrol in marked and unmarked cars. I've only been lasered once and I was at legal speeds!

[Skyryder]

They are both a detector and a emitter, so once you see you are being painted by laser, it beeps or something, and you then slow down to legal speeds whilst the emitter is covering your arse, then turn it off while doing 99 so the cop then gets a reading of that



they may wonder why you did that near stoppie though..........

So ok you turn it off. Now I know this is a silly question but if you have been pinged by mufti and you turn it back on and mufti is still ahead as you are not sure if you have passed him/her seems youcould still get nailed

Skyryder

[dangerous]

So ok you turn it off. Now I know this is a silly question but if you have been pinged by mufti and you turn it back on and mufti is still ahead as you are not sure if you have passed him/her seems youcould still get nailed

Skyryder

They are usually standing in the bushs aiming the laser gun at you (with chase car around the corner), jammer goes off sorts out the signal, turn jammer off... you slow down by then you should spot the wee bugger... flick the jammer back on and bugger off into the sunset.

[TonyB]

The tests I've read say they don't work.

I found (and posted on here ages ago) an article that claimed that not only did the Rocky Mountian jammer not work at all, it also had no capability of emitting any sort of signal at all.

[Ixion]

The cops are not stupid though. Well, not all of them. Well, some of them have a sort of rat cunning. Oh hell, some of them have the sense to ride bikes anyway. So they are surely gonna be pretty suspicious if a bike steams in sight, obviously fanging it, and then the laser shows 90 kph?

Also, how long does it give you. The laser thing gets hit, jams the signal, and goes beep beep. So you throw out the best bower, and start winching back the clock. What next? Does the cop have to pull the trigger again ie when he pulls the trigger does it send out a single pulse, or does it keep sending while his finger is on the trigger. Presumably, he pulls the trigger looks at the display , and sees , what? Not 90kph, cos you're still shedding speed. So what does he see while its being jammed? And then he triggers it again? So how long do you have before you need to switch it of? (BTW, would need a convenient handlebar mounted switch for that. And dont forget to switch it back on!)

[dangerous]

So they are surely gonna be pretty suspicious if a bike steams in sight, obviously fanging it, and then the laser shows 90 kph?

Also, how long does it give you. The laser thing gets hit, jams the signal, and goes beep beep. So you throw out the best bower, and start winching back the clock. What next? Does the cop have to pull the trigger again ie when he pulls the trigger does it send out a single pulse, or does it keep sending while his finger is on the trigger. Presumably, he pulls the trigger looks at the display , and sees , what? Not 90kph, cos you're still shedding speed. So what does he see while its being jammed? And then he triggers it again? So how long do you have before you need to switch it of?

Having used a laser trap I'll tell ya this, it isent easy on bikes... 1st you need to get the tiny red dot on the target... pull the trigger... hold it there for about 4 secs (depending on how good you are at keeping the target) then it will lock on and show the speed in the view finder.
My 1st time took me 8 trys before I locked on, so... the average copper wouldent be to sus of the unit jamming their laser

[Lou Girardin]

FFS. For the umpteenth time, they are NOT illegal.
They transmit light, not RF so you do not need a licence.
The only law on the books referring to interfering with traffic surveillance equipment relates to speed cameras only, not mobile radar or laser.
It is also not perverting or obstructing justice. There is no proof that you were committing an offence, because the jammer did it's job.
Buy and use one in good health Shaun.

[Pixie]

I had a cop try to get a reading off me (in the car ) for a full 800 m. my V1 laser alert was screaming and the jammer was doing it's job.
He gave me a funny look as I drove past :baby:

[scumdog]

Having used a laser trap I'll tell ya this, it isent easy on bikes... 1st you need to get the tiny red dot on the target... pull the trigger... hold it there for about 4 secs (depending on how good you are at keeping the target) then it will lock on and show the speed in the view finder.
My 1st time took me 8 trys before I locked on, so... the average copper wouldent be to sus of the unit jamming their laser

It's a LOT quicker when you use a tripod and have it pre-aimed for a specific point on the road where you know the bike/car is going to go straight into the beam...:msn-wink:

[scumdog]

They are usually standing in the bushs aiming the laser gun at you (with chase car around the corner), jammer goes off sorts out the signal, turn jammer off... you slow down by then you should spot the wee bugger... flick the jammer back on and bugger off into the sunset.


Pfff! I've seen YOUR attempts at ticket avoidance matey!!:buggerd: :lol: :rofl: :killingme