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James Deuce
7th October 2006, 14:11
Fell off.

Went to see Paul in NZ to drop off the book he lent me in hospital and had one of those inexplicable 30 km/hr lowsides.

Paul's been complaining to the council about the gravel building up at the end of his road, plus there is a surface change in the braking area.

Carefully trolled up to the intersection, braking gently and the bike immediately lay down on its side as I went over the surface change and into a little bit of loose chip. I was looking at the approaching traffic, not the road surface, so Hobson's choice really.

Idiot.

Sniper
7th October 2006, 14:13
Fuck that aint good. Hope you are OK mate.

James Deuce
7th October 2006, 14:14
I was alright until I got home. I want my balls back please wifey.

Sniper
7th October 2006, 14:16
I was alright until I got home. I want my balls back please wifey.


Ouch, the font change indicates something. You look after yourself mate

mangell6
7th October 2006, 14:31
Bugger!!!!!!!!!!!

Paul in NZ
7th October 2006, 14:38
Nothing worse than listening to the departing bbbbrrrrmmmmmrrr, bbrrrrrrmmmmrrrr, bbbbbiiiiittthhhhhhhh of a mates noice bike to hear a WHHHHIIIIRRRRRRR thunk at about where the end of the road is....

Did the 200M slipper dash but Jim had it up and going by then

Drat....

Bloody council and the lowest cost contractors...

TonyB
7th October 2006, 14:56
Bugger! At least you're OK.... aside from the damage your wife did! Hows the bike?

James Deuce
7th October 2006, 15:00
Clutch lever scraped, bar end scraped, upper fairing has holes and scrapes, fairing bracket bent, gear lever bent (but bent back with a suspiciously handy pipe, thanks to Paul), little scrape on tailpiece.

Not much really, but probably expensive to fix.

Thank goodness I went down on the left. Micron bling all OK.

jrandom
7th October 2006, 15:07
Millennium hand and shrimp, indeed.

Glad to hear nothing important got mangled.

crazybigal
7th October 2006, 15:10
what street is it?



Clutch lever scraped, bar end scraped, upper fairing has holes and scrapes, fairing bracket bent, gear lever bent (but bent back with a suspiciously handy pipe, thanks to Paul), little scrape on tailpiece.

Not much really, but probably expensive to fix.

Thank goodness I went down on the left. Micron bling all OK.

Riff Raff
7th October 2006, 15:29
That sucks. But not as much as you using the same thread title as me!!!

Finn
7th October 2006, 15:52
Did the 200M slipper dash but Jim had it up and going by then


Slippers? Jesus Paul, as if Jim wasn't already embarrassed enough.

Mooch
7th October 2006, 15:57
Jim , You need a hand with anything ? Sorry about your bike .

James Deuce
7th October 2006, 16:01
All sweet thanks Mooch. Bike is perfectly rideable, just a bit cosmetically challenged. Like the owqner.

James Deuce
7th October 2006, 16:02
Slippers? Jesus Paul, as if Jim wasn't already embarrassed enough.

It certainly cheered me up. He has to live in that street. :)

James Deuce
7th October 2006, 16:02
what street is it?

One in Raumati.

Clivoris
7th October 2006, 16:04
That sucks man. At least you wont have to wait months for any replacement parts you might need.:rolleyes:

James Deuce
7th October 2006, 16:05
We'll see. I'd like it back by Labour Weekend, but that will probably be pushing it.

Mooch
7th October 2006, 16:11
It certainly cheered me up. He has to live in that street. :)

Was he wearing those pink fluffy animal slippers again ?

yungatart
7th October 2006, 16:48
Not nice Jim.. bike better be back by Labour w/e.. we gotta couple of thugs to go visit...
Had a nice ride to Taupo today, wll almost all the way, thought of you as I was pootling along, leading all the sprotbikes:2thumbsup

onearmedbandit
7th October 2006, 17:41
Bummer Jim, glad to hear you're okay though!

MSTRS
7th October 2006, 17:49
Ach - you young hoons.Will you never learn?
Have one of these if it helps:hug:

Paul in NZ
7th October 2006, 17:50
Was he wearing those pink fluffy animal slippers again ?

Dammit Mooch - you promised... :whistle:

Nah - had me sheepies on (too big so a cool shuffle thing going on) and super grungy jeans with no knee on one side, black fleece top (free one from Vickis work) so I was in full bogan regalia...

I thought about slipping into my black cross trainers (I was working on me bikes OK) but I was worried Jim might get bike jacked by my neighbours so went down and did the 'it's OK hes with me' thing....

SARGE
7th October 2006, 18:41
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MVnut
7th October 2006, 19:00
bummer about your off mate. The low speed ones are usually the most embarrassing. Go have a beer:beer:

Paul in NZ
7th October 2006, 19:55
bummer about your off mate. The low speed ones are usually the most embarrassing. Go have a beer:beer:


I gave him a coffee and a cheese and marmite sandwich.... I failed first aid...

gijoe1313
7th October 2006, 20:01
Sorry to hear about the lowside, I couldn't believe the list of damage from "only" 30kph! Hope you get it all purty again soon and ridable!

oldrider
7th October 2006, 20:27
Shit a brick Jim2, that has to be the worst news, I am glad for you that "you" are OK! Shame about your bike though!
Hey, I hope you didn't ding your helmet!!!!! :shit: Cheers, John.

oldrider
7th October 2006, 20:34
I gave him a coffee and a cheese and marmite sandwich.... I failed first aid...

Thinks, :scratch: Paul, if anything ever happens to me near your house, please send Vicky with 1st aid box! :crybaby: I bruise so easy! Cheers, John.

Motu
7th October 2006, 21:12
Hmmmm - I suspect the real reason you crashed Jim was a deep seated phsycological trauma,a low self esteme caused by the fact you are just plain fucking stupid and will never learn to ride a bike properly.However,don't let this deter you from destroying perfectly good bikes in the future,by whatever means you find suitable.You will have to do affirmations at every meal and 3 times during the night,in front of family,and peers of possible.....and I find writting them down to be very effective too,fill an A4 sheet 3 times before going to bed....you need your brain to be in alpha state while doing this.Your affirmation is....

I will NOT crash my bike again,and if I do I will gift it to Motu,I will NOT crash my bike again,and if I do I will gift it to Motu....

Trust me,I know what I'm doing,I wasn't a hippy apprentice in the '70's for nothing you know.....

sAsLEX
8th October 2006, 10:14
Paul's been complaining to the council about the gravel building up at the end of his road, plus there is a surface change in the braking area.



Certainly if it was an ongoing issue that the council had been informed of and they have done nothing to rectify the situation then they are not partially responsible/ why not try for them to pay?

Hitcher
8th October 2006, 13:58
So Avon will be wanting to reconsider the endorsement for the Vipers then?

Anyway, apart from the "cosmetic" damage to the Kawasaki, how's the Jim?

Zed
8th October 2006, 21:14
Crapola Jim, sorry to read this. Glad it wasn't a major. However, every bin, small or great, sucks!

Zapf
9th October 2006, 00:02
ouch ie yochie Jim

Krayy
9th October 2006, 09:23
Buggeration. At least the council's putting the loose gravel at an intersection whwre you have to go slow rather than in the middle of a sweeping corner on the motorway :2thumbsup

...which reminds me...I have to call Franklin council about some gravel out Awhitu way....about an inch deep through a tight chicane

snuffles
9th October 2006, 10:15
Bugger, it was so shiny as well:weep:

placidfemme
9th October 2006, 10:32
Sucks about your bin... but at least the damage was minimal and your ok :) Hope the bikes back on the road soon!

SPman
9th October 2006, 15:03
Bum bum buggrit!

Just as well there weren't a bunch of schoolgirls watching............just for the ultimate embarrassing touch....


bloody Kawasakis that keep on wanting little lie downs on the road.....what do they think they are - Suzukis!

riffer
9th October 2006, 20:32
Tsk tsk tsk. :(

Should have bought Matt's old MV matey. The bike must have overheard you talking about it and got snarkey.

I can just imagine the conversation in the Jim2 household.

Still, at least the kids would have enjoyed the story.

Hope its sorted soon.


Certainly if it was an ongoing issue that the council had been informed of and they have done nothing to rectify the situation then they are not partially responsible/ why not try for them to pay?

Alex, really. You ride to the conditions mate.

Her_C4
9th October 2006, 21:09
Slippers? Jesus Paul, as if Jim wasn't already embarrassed enough.


ha ha ha good one :lol:

Glad you are ok Jim, hope the bike isn't too expensive to fix!! :whistle:

James Deuce
9th October 2006, 21:33
Tsk tsk tsk. :(

Should have bought Matt's old MV matey. The bike must have overheard you talking about it and got snarkey.

I can just imagine the conversation in the Jim2 household.

Still, at least the kids would have enjoyed the story.

Hope its sorted soon.



Alex, really. You ride to the conditions mate.

Err, Fuck Off.:banana: :spanking: :finger:

The conversation was't be anything like you imagine, and while you've got me wound up, I WAS riding to the conditions. It's called braking for an intersection and getting caught out by two surface changes while checking for traffic.

James Deuce
9th October 2006, 21:34
ha ha ha good one :lol:

Glad you are ok Jim, hope the bike isn't too expensive to fix!! :whistle:

It wouldn't surprise me if it's a write off. Too many body panels damaged for it to be less than 5k. The paint is difficult to match thanks to the pearl in it, so it will probably mean new body parts.

But thanks for the thought :)

Shaun
10th October 2006, 05:08
Fell off.

Went to see Paul in NZ to drop off the book he lent me in hospital and had one of those inexplicable 30 km/hr lowsides.

Paul's been complaining to the council about the gravel building up at the end of his road, plus there is a surface change in the braking area.

Carefully trolled up to the intersection, braking gently and the bike immediately lay down on its side as I went over the surface change and into a little bit of loose chip. I was looking at the approaching traffic, not the road surface, so Hobson's choice really.

Idiot.



Do not say to much more on this board about this crash mate

I am assuming there were no warning signs as to the loose gravel on the road?

No sign to the camber change on the road?

Paul has a name of person of contact he talked to about this?

Well then, it is there responsibility to repair our roads to a safe standard, which this clearly is not! They to have public liabillity insurance the same as any buisness: banana:

Go hard, and don't give up on it!

Shaun
10th October 2006, 05:10
In fact, go get some detailed photo's before it is all cleaned up

James Deuce
10th October 2006, 06:43
Paul took photos, good man that he is.

Paul in NZ
10th October 2006, 08:01
Not only did I take pictures I sent a shitty email to then reminding them that I warned them this would happen due to the crap job their contractor did of the resurfacing.

No reply of course.

The whole road is a bloody death trap to kids, drivers and any single tracked vehicle. Not only is the surface badly done there is a terrific change in surface at the intersection. I tippy toe around there EVERY time and Vicki and I missed dumping the Guzzi there (Vicki on back and luggage) one night only due to good luck and the excellent grip of mr metzlers finest and a quick reaction BUT I ended up on the wrong side of the road and it could have easily been fatal. Thats why I contacted them. They did nothing, I went down with a wheelbarrow and swept it up, 3 weeks later it was pretty bad again and eventually they swept it.

In addition, when they swept the road, they moved the stop sign lines at the Poplar Ave end back about a meter. It's now impossible to see vehicles approaching from the right (this is heading into a 100kph zone so they are going for it) without creeping over the line etc. It's bloody dangerous - again, nothing done, no reply, if we stick our fingers in our ears and go la la la la perhaps that annoying cunt will give up?

I agree - I'd back you Jim (you know that anyway)....

Mind you - they will just piss you about for months untill you get sick of it.

sAsLEX
10th October 2006, 09:06
It's called braking for an intersection and getting caught out by two surface changes while checking for traffic.



Alex, really. You ride to the conditions mate.


In fact, go get some detailed photo's before it is all cleaned up



Paul took photos, good man that he is.




Mind you - they will just piss you about for months untill you get sick of it.

So riffer what would you do in the same place?

It seems from all accounts that it is not possible to ride to the conditions as they are inherntly dangerous through poor design and manufacture of the road, but you being super wouldnt of mucked up on a road where even a local with many years riding experience and knowledge of the problem nearly dropped it!

People these days need to take accountaility for their actions, we pay rates and taxes for their services and they should provide a safe roading system or an adaquetly signed unsafe road.

scumdog
10th October 2006, 09:12
That sucks. But not as much as you using the same thread title as me!!!

Confused the hell out of me too!!

(But then I confuse easily):(

James Deuce
10th October 2006, 09:27
It wasn't deliberate, honest. We posted within minutes of each other and then I saw Riff's thread and thought she'd changed the content of mine.

I was wondering if I had actually banged my head in the accident!

Paul in NZ
10th October 2006, 09:55
I was wondering if I had actually banged my head in the accident!


Nope - I checked - no more ugly than when you arrived and you noggin still had exactly the same number of ugly cracks.

I suspected shock though 'cos you didn't have a second coffee and could not eat your second cheese and vegimite first aid pack..

Bit of a bugger though. A replacement panel would probably be un noticable unless it was green in which case list it on trade me as a special edition model. I'll help spray the forks gold to complete the upgrade.

Failing that, weld up the hole and I have some really kool skull transfers with flames etc which would add to it's street cred.

Str8 Jacket
10th October 2006, 10:07
Bad luck there Jim. Glad you're OK(ish) though! You thought of modifying your bike like mine.... My bike is currently made up of a mixture of Knead-It, aroldite (sp?), duct tape and CD covers.... Its kiwi ingenuity at its best mate!


Seriously though, good luck with getting your bike sorted. I hope that the process is not to painful for you!

sAsLEX
10th October 2006, 10:18
duct tape

saw a guy on a 600 up this way with his entire fairings and helmet covered in duct tape, think it was more so a quick colour change could be implemented in the case of being chased

Ixion
10th October 2006, 10:33
So riffer what would you do in the same place?

It seems from all accounts that it is not possible to ride to the conditions as they are inherntly dangerous through poor design and manufacture of the road, but you being super wouldnt of mucked up on a road where even a local with many years riding experience and knowledge of the problem nearly dropped it!

People these days need to take accountaility for their actions, we pay rates and taxes for their services and they should provide a safe roading system or an adaquetly signed unsafe road.

Get a chook-chaser ? At least they drop well.

Actually, a serious question. Given that on a faired bike even a small crash may run into thousands for plastic, why do not insurance companies charge more to insure faired bikes? Or, conversely, less for naked ones? Seems to me that naked riders are being ripped off . ( ---> insert ribald double entendres of your choice here ---> ........ )

James Deuce
10th October 2006, 10:35
That's actually a very good point Ixion, and mine is only semi-faired as well.

scumdog
10th October 2006, 10:43
saw a guy on a 600 up this way with his entire fairings and helmet covered in duct tape, think it was more so a quick colour change could be implemented in the case of being chased

Have you EVER tried to rip off that much duct tape in a hurry??????

sAsLEX
10th October 2006, 10:43
Why do they not make crash bungs mandatory.

They turn a few thousand dollar repair from a low speed dropping to 50 dollars for a new lever.

And some say they cause bikes to flip in a big off, well the insurance company was writing that bike off anyway due to plastic damage.

Hitcher
10th October 2006, 10:46
aroldite (sp?)

Araldite. The Greek goddess of adhesion.

sAsLEX
10th October 2006, 10:46
Have you EVER tried to rip off that much duct tape in a hurry??????

I would have all the ends taped to one piece mounted in the other orientation, plus I would not use industrial strenght proper duct tape

I think the main problem is hiding the tape once its off if the 5-o get there soon after

riffer
10th October 2006, 12:10
So riffer what would you do in the same place?


What I would have or not have done is immaterial. I may have done exactly what Jim did.

My point is that too many times people blame road conditions for their off.

Jim had quite clearly pointed out that he was concentrating further up the road, and the road surface change caught him out. An easy thing to happen.

But blaming it on the local council is bollocks. Roading around Raumati has always been crap.

And Jim knows I'm just winding him up ;)

sAsLEX
10th October 2006, 12:17
My point is that too many times people blame road conditions for their off.


yes that is true, but someone with as much experience as Jim is unlikely to do that unless it truely was a case of the road being at fault.

I mean a little gravel on a corner adjust your line and go around!

A 30 foot deep pothole go around!

A jump ..... hit at speed and enjoy the slapper as you land!

All in the day of a ride down 22.......

Paul in NZ
10th October 2006, 12:54
What I would have or not have done is immaterial. I may have done exactly what Jim did.

My point is that too many times people blame road conditions for their off.

Jim had quite clearly pointed out that he was concentrating further up the road, and the road surface change caught him out. An easy thing to happen.

But blaming it on the local council is bollocks. Roading around Raumati has always been crap.

And Jim knows I'm just winding him up ;)

I know you are winding him up but.....

The council does deserve some blame here. The only way to get these people to lift their bloody game is to get on their friggin case. The road surface there is a joke and was clearly identified to them not just by me, but by my neighbours as well as being dangerous. It is settling down a little now (after a year) but it was left in a disgusting mess by the contractor and was very dangerous for a long time. I understand things have to be paid for but when someone clearly predicts exactly what is going to happen to the council and they fail to act I think they do have a responsibility.

No one can expect a suburban street to be billiard table smooth and it IS in the back of even raumati but - it was genuinely a crap job!

bane
10th October 2006, 21:18
Araldite. The Greek goddess of adhesion.

Hitcher's like the Sallies, always there when you need him!
(btw, love the byline Hitcher)

Sux Jim, but at least it wasnt the GSX600F - Ixion is on to something (but I hope he keeps it quiet :whistle: )

et al
10th October 2006, 21:49
Sorry to hear the bad news Jim - gutted for you because I know you love that bike and thought you had finally found your perfect soulmate (in the biking sense). Hope you can get it back to as-new condition.