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Monorail
7th October 2006, 22:19
Hey guys,
I'm hopefully looking at buying a new bike in late november, early december (hopefully Str8 Jacket's KR). Any who, financially speaking I need to 'aquire' $1800ish by that time. Having checked my bank balance for the wonder of online banking I have $198.67. I've got one guy interested in my current bike and he's keen to wait til nov and he willing to pay $100, but he mite find something in between times which is worrying. I'll probably make around $400 more from work. That leaves at least $200 to be made. I have thought up some schemes on how to get it and was wanting some feedback.
1. Parents - They not even keen on me having this bike, and dont want me to get a bike with more speed.
2. Birthday - Get cash instead of gifts. Kinda spoils the whole present concept, but is a worth cause. but again it is parents who will be the main contributor.
3. Selling Crap - Selling all my old toys from when I was a youngster, they wont be worth much however and it's all my memories.
4. Busking - Had a brillant idea of doing it online, but i'm talentless and video camera less so would make it difficult.
5. Begging - I have my dignity to think about...
6. Bank Robbery - Outset would be to high, balaclava $20, shotgun $200, risk $LIFE IN JAIL
7. Loan - Parents, no. Bank/Finance Company, would need a cosigner cos i'm 15 so no. Friends, the one friend who would recently stuck all his money in long term deposit.
8. Sell Cellphone - It will be said, but I must do what I have to to get a new bike
9. Pick-up a second job - My current hours are so varied and unpredictable that it would be impossible.
10. Win Lotto - Again my age is against me
11. Sell a book of ideas to make money

So if you guys have any ideas please let me know... only if they reasonable i.e. no prostitution (sorry ladies... and dover), and yea

SwanTiger
7th October 2006, 22:28
It is very simple, get a decent job and save what you earn.

Monorail
7th October 2006, 22:31
It is very simple, get a decent job and save what you earn.

Working at macca's is a decent job :lol: $8.40 per hour before tax:(
And i do save what I earn, but school and homework took up the majority of my life and I don't wanna give up on education just yet.

imdying
7th October 2006, 22:34
Work harder, don't slack around, use your initiative (at maccas). If you're a hard worker, they will be more likely to accomodate you with more regular hours.

Monorail
7th October 2006, 22:36
Work harder, don't slack around, use your initiative (at maccas). If you're a hard worker, they will be more likely to accomodate you with more regular hours.

I've had real good hours over the holidays like 40 this week which will bring around $200ish, but next week I've only got two hours, and once I pay for my sponsoring some bangladesh boy I'll probably be in negative dollars for the week's takings

SwanTiger
7th October 2006, 22:50
I've had real good hours over the holidays like 40 this week which will bring around $200ish, but next week I've only got two hours, and once I pay for my sponsoring some bangladesh boy I'll probably be in negative dollars for the week's takings

LOL :lol:

I'm not going to comment any further other than to say that has to be one of the funniest posts I've ever read on Kiwi Biker.

Nitzer
8th October 2006, 05:57
once I pay for my sponsoring some bangladesh boy I'll probably be in negative dollars for the week's takings

Well it's either the Bangladesh boy or the bike......:crazy:

RantyDave
8th October 2006, 08:27
Dude,

You're 15, right? I'm going to sound like a boring bastard but ... don't, OK. The numbers just don't stack up.

First: If you get Str8's KR, fine bike that it is, at some point you will crash it. When this happens you're going to be looking at a bill for another thousand dollars to put it back on the road and you're not going to be able to afford it and your hard earned cash will be sitting in your dad's garage with bent forks. This will suck the big one.

Second: The $100 you've been offered for your 125 is way low of the mark. I don't think I've heard of anything that even functions going for less than $600 and a quick skim through TradeMe shows that perhaps a grand is more realistic:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=71532664&key=32703

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=71641078&key=32703

This is without knowing anything about your bike of course but beginner bikes are in demand right now.

As for money making jollies, try and get some more consistent hours from Maccas. I also can't imagine a parent in the world that would refuse you a loan to buy some decent safety gear and angling for a set of cordura, boots, gloves and a helmet for xmas might be a good idea.

Good luck, man. I know it sucks being young but you're picking up the right attitude on the way through.

Dave

DingDong
8th October 2006, 08:39
$200 for 40hrs work!... shit!, I'll pay you $200 to paint my house... it wont take you 40 hrs... maybe 20-30. Tax free too:cool:

Schools are great places to sell drugs:lol: you could have a gsxr1000 by xmas:banana:

MSTRS
8th October 2006, 08:40
I'm going to sound like a boring bastard but ... don't, OK. The numbers just don't stack up.
.... The $100 you've been offered ....

Exactly what he said
Think that was a typo - should read $1000 from his other figures. Still doesn't add up to free and clear as young fella said.
Best advice? Don't spent everything you've got (and then some) cos you never know what is waiting to bite ya

inlinefour
8th October 2006, 08:44
It is very simple, get a decent job and save what you earn.

Most people are dreamers of what a decient job is. It usually starts with going off to Uni or Tech and the loss of 3 years doing some sort of degree. Making money? If anyone has to think up some hair brained scheme like the fellow in the original post of this thread, then there is not much hope. Yea I've got a money making scheme, but it involves only spending money at the moment. However when I retire, thats all going to change...:2thumbsup

Sniper
8th October 2006, 08:45
Dude, get up off your arse and do the little things.

Mow lawns, grab a pamphlet delivery job, clean cars. I know they sound boring and under 12 type jobs, but if you are serious about getting this bike then you do what you can.

My first bike was a CG125 and I remember doing 3 jobs just to save up enough to get it. Believe me, you will be stoked and once you have it, you can just look back and be proud of what you did.

Maha
8th October 2006, 08:50
Ranty has a very wise head, read what is said mafu1, and act on it...
Send Bangladesh Boy a Macca Voucher and call it even.....
You dont have to find that much money in the time frame.....6-8 weeks?
Parent's are your best bet and, like RR said, talk with them and do everything right, like proper gear and Basic Handling test (thats if you havent already done one)......but stop sending your money oversea's.....

sAsLEX
8th October 2006, 08:50
Most people are dreamers of what a decient job is. It usually starts with going off to Uni or Tech and the loss of 3 years doing some sort of degree.

Why not get paid to go to uni?! Worked for me!

Sniper
8th October 2006, 08:52
Why not get paid to go to uni?! Worked for me!

And me :D Although I know teach myself new things.....

inlinefour
8th October 2006, 08:53
Why not get paid to go to uni?! Worked for me!

Bastidge, how did you do that??? I also had to goto work in clinical placements for over 1500 hours and did not get paid a cent. However these days I get offerred jobs everywhere and this arvo I'm going to get paid to watch Bathurst. :jerry: :wari:

sAsLEX
8th October 2006, 08:57
Bastidge, how did you do that???

I is very sneaky......... got Helen to pay me a salary and my fees

Jantar
8th October 2006, 08:59
Here's a bit of a money making idea for you:

Many Kbers travell between the islands and like to have their bikes looking good while touring. Set yourself up as a motorbike grooming service for riders passing through. Say $10 for a basic clean, $15 for a clean and polish.

Only 3 bikes a week will make up the shortfall, and if you keep it up it will also pay your basic running costs.

Maha
8th October 2006, 09:01
Most people are dreamers of what a decient job is. It usually starts with going off to Uni or Tech and the loss of 3 years doing some sort of degree.


And they end up with 'over rated' posistion's in ''non rated'' job's .....:banana:

ie: Energy Transfer Engineer.........works for Shell
Horticultural adviser within the DHB system.....Peels spud's and ripps cabbage's

inlinefour
8th October 2006, 09:08
And they end up with 'over rated' posistion's in ''non rated'' job's .....:banana:

ie: Energy Transfer Engineer.........works for Shell
Horticultural adviser within the DHB system.....Peels spud's and ripps cabbage's

what about all the nurses like myself? Over rated my arse... :spanking:

However I was a maintiance and hygiene manager whil I was training. Required no degree and involved cleaning and fixing stuff in a butchery. :)

Colapop
8th October 2006, 09:25
You're in Paraparaumu? Has the old man got a chainsaw? Heaps of money gets washed up on the beach. Get a trailer and go down and collect it. Then sell it. Firewood sells for about $200+ a chord. A chord is about 1.5 cubic metres (ish)

MSTRS
8th October 2006, 09:29
..... A chord is about 1.5 cubic metres (ish)

Eh...wrong...a chord is a combination of musical notes:Pokey:
A cord of wood is approx 3.6m3

Colapop
8th October 2006, 09:32
No, a chord is a bit of rope.

Of course, I'm not as old as you so the imperial conversions aren't ingrained... :Pokey: And I said ISH

MSTRS
8th October 2006, 09:33
No, a chord is a bit of rope.

Of course, I'm not as old as you so the imperial conversions aren't ingrained... :Pokey: And I said ISH

So what you are saying is that spelling has been metricated as well?

Colapop
8th October 2006, 09:42
Terhes nohtnig wonrg wtih my speeling...

MSTRS
8th October 2006, 09:44
Terhes nohtnig wonrg wtih my speeling...

Are you watching, kids? This is why drugs are bad for you!!

Colapop
8th October 2006, 09:47
There's another money making scheme. The horticulture class at school (all those many years ago) was full of avid horticulturalists...

MSTRS
8th October 2006, 09:49
There's another money making scheme. The horticulture class at school (all those many years ago) was full of avid horticulturalists...

...it's a...(why not)...growth industry...

Brett
8th October 2006, 09:52
Depends on what you want to do for a job when you leave school. When I started at the company i am still with, it was earning $25k (woohoo, nothing too exciting thats for sure) but i also had my study fee's paid for to go to tech and do a Diploma in Construction/Degree in Construction. There are plenty of construction companies offering schemes like this, it is hard work working a 9ish hour day then heading to uni for 3-4 hours a night, 4 nights a week. But it is worth it once it is over.
As for making money, what are your skills, are you technicallly minded, you could offer a basic car servicing/bike servicing business, i.e. changing oil and filters.
You could find people who want a house painted (as long as you can do a decent job). or a roof (AHEM - WINJA) and that would be a good little money earner.
My personal favourite as a student was to buy things that were under their value, and then to resell, thereby making a capital gain over the purchase price. My best, was an electric guitar that made me close to $500, which as a student is quite a bit!

Put your mind to it, i am sure you can think of sumthing!

Monorail
8th October 2006, 10:10
You're in Paraparaumu? Has the old man got a chainsaw? Heaps of money gets washed up on the beach. Get a trailer and go down and collect it. Then sell it. Firewood sells for about $200+ a chord. A chord is about 1.5 cubic metres (ish)

No chainsaw, no trailer, not even a bloody towbar. You guys are rite though there are heaps of possibilities. Not very mechanically minded. I ride and my mate fixes it in exchange for the odd burnout. And it was a typo the sale price for my bike, was meant to say $1000.
I could make any of you guys a website for a small fee. Hell I might be able to make you something similar to Kiwibiker... be ur own mod.
Thanks for all the suggestions though guys, I will definately think about them and plan. Also I always have first party comprehensive cover... (the parents chipped in), so not too much to worry about if i take a spill. 20% excess, minimum $200

Colapop
8th October 2006, 10:12
To make money you gotta spend money, goes the old saying. But even better is yutilising the skill set you have and increasing your worth by that means.

Beemer
8th October 2006, 10:29
Don't discount Trade Me for turning crap into cash - I've quite over $1500 worth of unused junk in the past five weeks! Okay, a couple of things were worth a few hundred bucks (old digital camera and flash), but every $5 for a book you've read or $10 for a pair of jeans you no longer wear soon adds up.

But why rush? You'll appreciate the bike more if you have to do some hard graft to afford it - and you're more likely to take better care of it and not want to wreck it.

James Deuce
8th October 2006, 10:50
Get a haircut, get a real job.

grego
8th October 2006, 11:15
I think you are starting the whole thing up from the wrong end, sort of from the "arse end".

Young folks these days are suffering from the idea that they have to have everything NOW (or in six weeks)

Why not look it it from this Way: You allready have got a bike, so whatever it is, you don't actually NEED another one.
Don't expect other peoples Input all the time, especially not the parents one. Just try to be happy with what you got in the moment and start putting penis aside by not buying a lot of crapp that you think you MUST have.
After a year or two you will have a decent whack of money put aside and then you can go shopping for a decent bike.

THERE WILL BE BIKES FOR SALE IN 2 YEARS FROM NOW.
of that I am sure.

Life does not finish at 16 for most people it only just kicks off then so try to take a more "long-term approach" to it.

Kindest regards and all the best.
From an old fart (of course):2thumbsup

beyond
8th October 2006, 11:18
Lifes a funny thing.
You either have time and no money and when you have money you have no time.
Then you get what you really want so bad and after a couple of weeks/months, you want something else. It's the treadmill of life.

There's heaps of people everywhere wanting something and haven't got the money to get what they want. Some work their guts out doing all sorts of stuff to get what they are after and others wait for it to happen or hope for a leprachaun to leap out of the bushes and grant them a wish.

When I was young, education came first. You couldn't get good grades and work too many hours for mulla in a week. So what you wanted just had to wait and you had to make do with what you had. In my case it was a pair of feet for a few years and buses. :(

I managed to get a few bikes before I got married. Then had to sell my bike to cover the deposit on a house. Sold a guitar to buy a second hand lawnmower, had no stereo and a black and white borrowed TV for ages.

Life doesn't always turn up the right cards to win the hand when you want.

As has been said. You are still young and more power means more speed and if you were like me, owning a motorcycle of nay power is going to become expensive, insurance or not. I wrote two of them off before I was 19.

It's your call but I bet in another year you will want a bigger better bike and you will be at this point again...... and again.... and life goes on. :)

RantyDave
8th October 2006, 14:11
I could make any of you guys a website for a small fee.
Make websites for small businesses. You'll need to do about ... ummm ... two to make up the shortfall. Fuck maccas. Post URL's of previous work.

Dave

Sniper
8th October 2006, 14:18
Make websites for small businesses. You'll need to do about ... ummm ... two to make up the shortfall. Fuck maccas. Post URL's of previous work.

Dave

Seconded. I could point you in the direction of a couple of small buisnesses that need them depending on your skills. Save the boss doing it.

WINJA
8th October 2006, 14:23
If You Were Female Hunters Corner Would Be A Good Option Youd Earn Enough To Buy A New Gsxr600 In One Week , Yeah Finns A Good Payer

MSTRS
8th October 2006, 14:45
If You Were Female Hunters Corner Would Be A Good Option Youd Earn Enough To Buy A New Gsxr600 In One Week , Yeah Finns A Good Payer

And you know this, how? Got your sister working for you? Or your mother?:whistle: :chase:

WINJA
8th October 2006, 15:46
And you know this, how? Got your sister working for you? Or your mother?:whistle: :chase:

NOPE YOUR MUM , SHE DOES GUMMY SPECIALS

Monorail
8th October 2006, 16:21
Make websites for small businesses. You'll need to do about ... ummm ... two to make up the shortfall. Fuck maccas. Post URL's of previous work.

Dave

I don't have any url's of previous work yet. Never been able to afford the hosting or crap and they were all just for fun.


Seconded. I could point you in the direction of a couple of small buisnesses that need them depending on your skills. Save the boss doing it.

Skills aren't the greatest. I can't do shopping carts so most businesses are out of the question.

If anyone wants me to make a quick sample website for them, let me know and I'll whip one up. Just give me some info on what you want.
Matt

HenryDorsetCase
8th October 2006, 16:33
I earn (apparently) lots of money (my accountant tells me so... yeah, right I say) and I dont even sponsor some poor fucker in Bangladesh. Maybe I should take him off your hands. are they cheaper second hand?

HenryDorsetCase
8th October 2006, 16:35
I don't have any url's of previous work yet. Never been able to afford the hosting or crap and they were all just for fun.



Skills aren't the greatest. I can't do shopping carts so most businesses are out of the question.

If anyone wants me to make a quick sample website for them, let me know and I'll whip one up. Just give me some info on what you want.
Matt

I just cut a cheque for nearly four grand ($3400 plus GST) for a bloody website that I have to provide content for. Get into it my son, its the new fucking gold rush. Poor suckers like me come along every day.

RantyDave
8th October 2006, 16:36
I don't have any url's of previous work yet. Never been able to afford the hosting or crap and they were all just for fun.
Happy to host off my cable modem if you need a starting point.

Skills aren't the greatest. I can't do shopping carts so most businesses are out of the question.
Most businesses need:

1, This is who we are.
2, This is what we do.
3, This is how to get here.
4, This is how to contact us.

And if you can do a decent job would be happy to stump up enough cash to make the hosting fees seem irrelevantly small. Carts are a pain in the arse. Credit cards are a fucking pain in the arse.


If anyone wants me to make a quick sample website for them, let me know and I'll whip one up.
Thinking .... thinking .... thinking ....

Dave

Monorail
8th October 2006, 16:39
I just cut a cheque for nearly four grand ($3400 plus GST) for a bloody website that I have to provide content for. Get into it my son, its the new fucking gold rush. Poor suckers like me come along every day.

Yeah, But for my websites I'd probably feel bad taking more than $100 depending on how good it was. So if anyone wants a basic website, this could be your best opportunity. You can get it hosted for free (probably with ads) and a .co.nr domain for free. I'll set it all up, and will be able to update contents for a small fee. I can even set up a forum for it. Not as sophisticated as KiwiBiker, but still does the basic point of posting!

Monorail
8th October 2006, 16:42
I earn (apparently) lots of money (my accountant tells me so... yeah, right I say) and I dont even sponsor some poor fucker in Bangladesh. Maybe I should take him off your hands. are they cheaper second hand?

If only lol, na it's about $9.25 a week.


Happy to host off my cable modem if you need a starting point.

Most businesses need:

1, This is who we are.
2, This is what we do.
3, This is how to get here.
4, This is how to contact us.

And if you can do a decent job would be happy to stump up enough cash to make the hosting fees seem irrelevantly small. Carts are a pain in the arse. Credit cards are a fucking pain in the arse.


Thinking .... thinking .... thinking ....

Dave

I can easily do the four steps, thats practically only a contact page. Carts are near impossible, but I can do some credit card crap through paypal, probably only useful for donations.

Monorail
8th October 2006, 17:05
still needing an idea for a quick website. anything will do. just provide the information and it'll be done, tonight hopefully

Sniper
8th October 2006, 17:48
Ignore the macromedia flash, but could you do something like www.apexrentals.co.nz ?

Monorail
8th October 2006, 18:38
Ignore the macromedia flash, but could you do something like www.apexrentals.co.nz ?

Most likely yea, the book online part I probably wouldn't be able to do, but everything else i can

Hitcher
8th October 2006, 19:18
So if you guys have any ideas please let me know... only if they reasonable i.e. no prostitution (sorry ladies... and dover), and yea

Sell a kidney. You only need one, and the market rate is between $20,000 and $50,000, depending on which country you're selling it to. That should get you a nice ride.

Monorail
8th October 2006, 19:23
Sell a kidney. You only need one, and the market rate is between $20,000 and $50,000, depending on which country you're selling it to. That should get you a nice ride.

i think i mite keep mine, just in case...

Hitcher
8th October 2006, 19:27
i think i mite keep mine, just in case...

In that case, raise cash the hard way. Sell muffins, or something...

SARGE
8th October 2006, 20:02
<img src="http://www.safetinspector.com/pix/squeegee.jpg">


or sell weed to school kids...

Sniper
8th October 2006, 20:46
Most likely yea, the book online part I probably wouldn't be able to do, but everything else i can

Ok, well if you can do a decent thing besides the booking engine part, then I'll chat to these guys and let you know.

S

jeremysprite
8th October 2006, 21:05
I've always had a B plan for getting a new bike-
Talk to V, Red Bull, one of a number of youth-genre products, ask them to sponsor you ~$5000 (should be enough)

Then get them to paint your bike in Red Bull colours etc, and find a massive canyon. Get them to bring their good camera guys, with the hi 8 cameras, build a cheap plywood ramp, buy a parachute and learn how to use effectively, have this painted red bull colours as well.

Then, in a couple of weeks, there'll be an ad for Red Bull/whatever: Mafu1, drinks some Red Bull, goes racing around the canyon, then hits a corner too fast. Bike goes flying off the edge, nice chase shot of GS125 exploding into a kajillion pieces (because you got Sniper to make you up some C4/RDX/whatever beforehand) and then Mafu1 flying off into the sunset, Red Bull gives you wings.

Shame, though. Your profile shows that you're not particularly photogenic, so it probably won't work for you.

Copyright JS's great ideas. Likely Darwin Award candidate.

Monorail
8th October 2006, 21:25
Shame, though. Your profile shows that you're not particularly photogenic, so it probably won't work for you.



I've been meaning to get a photo up eh

Ixion
8th October 2006, 22:23
I've always had a B plan for getting a new bike-
Talk to V, Red Bull, one of a number of youth-genre products, ask them to sponsor you ~$5000 (should be enough)

Then get them to paint your bike in Red Bull colours etc, and find a massive canyon. Get them to bring their good camera guys, with the hi 8 cameras, build a cheap plywood ramp, buy a parachute and learn how to use effectively, have this painted red bull colours as well.

Then, in a couple of weeks, there'll be an ad for Red Bull/whatever: Mafu1, drinks some Red Bull, goes racing around the canyon, then hits a corner too fast. Bike goes flying off the edge, nice chase shot of GS125 exploding into a kajillion pieces (because you got Sniper to make you up some C4/RDX/whatever beforehand) and then Mafu1 flying off into the sunset, Red Bull gives you wings.

Shame, though. Your profile shows that you're not particularly photogenic, so it probably won't work for you.

Copyright JS's great ideas. Likely Darwin Award candidate.

Sorry lads, I work for the people who make V and I've been trying for several years to talk them into sponsering some sort of bike stuff (not for me, just any bike stuff). Doesn't fit corporate marketing plan, not interested. Y'could try Red Bull, or Coke/

adiddy
9th October 2006, 10:27
heym mate, im not much older than urself, im in the same boat in wanting to upgrade.... if you work between exams and christmas you could save at least 1,0000 ryte?! save everything you get mate and dont spend it on anything stupid!!!!!

Nitzer
9th October 2006, 10:57
Can you swim or do you like swimming? You can quickly and easily obtain a Pool Lifeguard qualification (for a small fee), then you could work at a Leisure Centre as a Lifeguard. They are always looking for temporary staff throughout the summer and the hours should be varied & flexible.

Just a thought, it's what I did in the UK before I moved to NZ.

Good luck anyway

petesmeats
9th October 2006, 11:41
Honestly having just gone through the stage that you are at now... Get a ginny...
The reasons why i say this is:

1. The most i ever spent on it after a bin was $70 to get it back on the road.
2. Its a good learners bike and doesn't cost $1800... mine cost $600 ($270 purchase price Plus $330 to get it all legal)
3. Parts are everywhere. And in most cases are transferable between models...
4. It is possible to tear one apart right down to the frame and engine and put it back together in one day. so it is good to learn basic maintenance...
5. Your parents will overtake you while out for a nice evening walk and will realise that it is impossible to kill yourself on one so will be more willing to help you out with maintenance costs (tyres,chains,sprockets,rego etc) if you are ever strapped for cash.
6. When you upgrade you will have no trouble selling it cos everyone loves the ginny's

iwilde
9th October 2006, 12:29
Thats the trouble with the youth of today, always looking for the easy way out. Try a bit of hard work, dosn't hurt as much as it sounds. Weed gardens, mow lawns, wash house windows. I'm sure you could find plenty of old people in the street that would like the help.

adiddy
9th October 2006, 20:47
what experience do you have working mate? and where abouts are ya from sorry?

Monorail
9th October 2006, 20:56
what experience do you have working mate? and where abouts are ya from sorry?

#1 Shoe Warehouse - 7 Monthsish
MacDonalds - 2 Months to date


Make websites for small businesses. You'll need to do about ... ummm ... two to make up the shortfall. Fuck maccas. Post URL's of previous work.

Dave

www.matt.nick-b.net
something i'm working on for another kiwibiker

Monorail
10th October 2006, 21:08
yay pay day tomorrow, looking forward to working the whole last week of holidays financial benefits

adiddy
10th October 2006, 21:12
nice website there mate... is there a hell pizza near ya man?! www.hell.co.nz
would you be able to work a saturday from say 9-4 on average would bring in about 70 in the hand ryte?!

Monorail
10th October 2006, 21:15
nice website there mate... is there a hell pizza near ya man?! www.hell.co.nz
would you be able to work a saturday from say 9-4 on average would bring in about 70 in the hand ryte?!

thanks for the comment about the website.
Nope, no hells near me. It will be interesting to see however how much I can make just from Macca's and web design

Matt

Monorail
11th October 2006, 15:59
$279.00 for working the last week of the holidays!

Forest
11th October 2006, 19:36
If you want to become truly rich, basically you have to accumulate income producing assets. Unfortunately a motorcycle is not an asset (it is a liability).

This sets up a paradox - in order to be able to afford a motorcycle, you really should abstain from buying one. Fortunately you don't have to abstain forever. But how long you wait is really up to you.

What I suggest is that you buy a old but solid bike. Something cheap and reliable to last the next couple of years. There are a lots of old but solid bikes in the $3,000 range.

Believe it or not, bikes will still be on sale in five years. And what is even better is that the bikes you fantasise about today will be much more affordable as five year-old used bikes. I'm in the process of importing a bike that I dreamed about (but could never have afforded) when it came on tp the market six years ago. I'm glad that I've waited!!!