Whale rider chick pregnant at 16

[Pixie]

To her 19 year old bf
Why is this not a surprise?

[jrandom]

Yup, just keep on perpetuatin' that warrior gene.

Good to see that she wasn't faking the gen-yew-eyne Maori approach just for the film, like.

And... now she's going to play the Virgin Mary?

http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/zap-keishacastlehughespregnant,0,3432669.story?coll=za p-movies-headlines

ROOOOFL. She'll have to change her typecasting for that role. I don't think 'putting the bash on the Magi' is quite what the director will be after.

[Lou Girardin]

She should have stuck to riding whales.
I guess she won't need the DPB with all the loot she made from the movie.

[Scouse]

She should have stuck to riding whales.
I guess she won't need the DPB with all the loot she made from the movie.She did it was a Sperm Whale TaDaaaa

[Scouse]

Yea dosnt supries me I belive that at the time she made Whale rider when she was 13 she had a boyfreind who was 23 and with her mothers aproval

[Street Gerbil]

I guess she rode the wrong whale...

[Beemer]

I must confess I was a bit surprised to hear the news - getting pregnant at 16 is not exactly the way to make it big (pardon the pun!) in the film industry. Hell, 16 is not much more than a baby herself. Reckons the guy is her childhood sweetheart - fine, no problem with that, but I think if she was my daughter I'd want her to have seen a bit more of life before she saddled herself with a kid.

[Colapop]

You would've thought that she wouldn't have the time to hook up with her bf. She's supposedly too busy making movies and stuff. So stereotypicaly common though. Sad.

[WINJA]

She should have stuck to riding whales.
I guess she won't need the DPB with all the loot she made from the movie.

SHE DID ,THATS HOW I GOT HER PREGNANT

[Scorpygirl]

Yes, sad to hear. I cracked up when I heard a lady on the radio say that Keisha will make a good role model for young Mums. (TUI!!) As if we havent got enough of a problem with the teenage pregnancy rate in NZ. Now teens will say if Keisha can do it why can't I, its OK cause Keisha did it!!! Yes a great role indeed.

[Finn]

She should have stuck to riding whales.
I guess she won't need the DPB with all the loot she made from the movie.

This is disgusting. What message does this send? As if young maori girls needed any more motivation to breed.

She was an accidental star and will be short lived. By the time her acting career is over, she'll have 7 kids and will be an honorary member of the DPB.

[sAsLEX]

Now teens will say if Keisha can do it why can't I, its OK cause Keisha did it!!! Yes a great role indeed.

Cept they will be in a low or no income family situation if they are living at home at all and will become another drain on our society

[Scorpygirl]

Cept they will be in a low or no income family situation if they are living at home at all and will become another drain on our society


Very true mate!!! Enough said! :( :( :(

[inlinefour]

Her life to do with it as she wishes, although everyone these days feels the need to voice their opninion. Good luck to her and I hope the b/f sticks with her and the baby is a healthy one.

[Jamezo]

O, to watch a racial stereotype demonstrate itself, it is a delicate thing to behold, like the first steps of a newborn calf.

[James Deuce]

Definitely a racial stereotype, but one not without foundation.

She should literally be crawling on her belly, apologising for confirming the stereotype. Like it or lump it, she's in the public eye and is a role model for Maori teen.

She blew it. Big time.

[Jamezo]

That's what I was meaning, confirming a stereotype. Not a remark on other comments here.

She'll do great things for overseas perception of Maori; our ONE famous young female Maori actor gets knocked up early. What groovy publicity.

[LilSel]

Stupid girl!!
16??? Just watch her film career go down the plughole!!
What kinda life is that kid gonna have?? If she does continue in 'Hollywood' movies, the child will think their nanny is their mother!!...
After all... the best thing you can spend on your child is time!

[Sniper]

Maybe it will open the worlds eyes to how "innocent" New Zealand really is

[scumdog]

She must have come from Tologa Bay or similar place, that's part of life for them.

You can take the girl out of her upbringing but you can't take the upbringing out of the girl.

[Swoop]

She blew it. Big time.

Possibly, but Paris Hilton might have been there first.... (PH gets around a bit:whistle: )

[James Deuce]

PH invented getting there first.

[Coyote]

Meh, at least 16 is the legal age, and she has a partner. There's far more girls younger than her sleeping around. Just one of the people who made a mistake happened to be a celebrity

[James Deuce]

Meh, at least 16 is the legal age, and she has a partner. There's far more girls younger than her sleeping around. Just one of the people who made a mistake happened to be a celebrity

It's not a case of "Meh". She's been presented as being representative of NZ and a NZ minority internationally. It's embarrassing and avoidable.

[Coyote]

It's not a case of "Meh". She's been presented as being representative of NZ and a NZ minority internationally. It's embarrassing and avoidable.
Well true. How has this incident been treated internationally anyway? Are british tabloids going 'omg'?

[Indiana_Jones]

I don't get people who have kids together but don't get married?

It's weird.

-Indy

[Seraph]

I can't say i'm supprised....the number of 16 y/o's who actually WANT children at that age is more than you'd think..suppoze it's like a 7 year old wanting a puppy:( Sure, It's not the best international representation of what we're like, but if she does a good job of being a mother etc etc it may not be that bad.
In regards to her acting career think how many actresses have kids and still get leading roles.....

[Finn]

First we gave the world Jack dah Muss and now the Whale Girl gets her eggs cooked. What will they think of NZ?

[James Deuce]

No one "thinks" of NZ. We only get noticed when someone does something to a sheep, a Fat Bastard directs an adaption of a fantasy classic, or one of the chicks from Star Wars gets pregnant before the age of consent in the US.

[Rogue Rider]

There are loads of teenage pregnancies out there, the more info they get, and the more free advice and product they get the more they go out and do it. Sex is a wonderful thing, but don't think Kids that young should be even thinking about it. I know its unrealistic to think that, but it wasn't long ago that most teenagers just enjoyed life and had fun socialising. Kids should spend more time being kids I say, plenty of time to play house later. There are far to many DPB career holders, I say this as the citizens advice and winz virtually incourage it and accept it. A solo mum for example with 2 kids earns more on the DPB than someone working 40hrs on the adult miimum wage. In fact it works out to be 20% more and it increases to 50% with another child. That doesn't include by the way the accomadation suppliment and IRD rebates for family support. On a whole a solo mum does very well, for nothing. Thanks all us tax payers, we fund and financially support thousands of bludgers, and also thousands of carrer mums, go Labour, comunism at its peak. In terms of Keisha, well it seems to be a family trait, like mother like daughter. We all learn by example, and I guess thats whats tollerated in our society.:weep: :baby:

[jrandom]

No one "thinks" of NZ.

It's true.

Not one of the local women that I chatted to in the bars at Shekou port last Friday night had ever even heard of NZ.

In the end, I just started pointing to myself and saying "English". It was easier that way...

[Lou Girardin]

She is merely fulfilling her destiny. The movie role was a small abnormal blip in her life.
One she didn't have the wit to take advantage of.
Now there's one more snout in the public trough.

[Seraph]

There are loads of teenage pregnancies out there, the more info they get, and the more free advice and product they get the more they go out and do it. Sex is a wonderful thing, but don't think Kids that young should be even thinking about it. I know its unrealistic to think that, but it wasn't long ago that most teenagers just enjoyed life and had fun socialising. Kids should spend more time being kids I say, plenty of time to play house later.

It's hard to spent time being a kid when there's so much pressure from society to force you to grow up as soon as possable. In this time where it's common for both parents to work long hours, you can be left on your own for most of a day so have to take on tasks and responsibilities(sp?) that a while ago (when a 16 year old was still a 'kid') would have been left up to their parents.
Some-what the social scene and drinking age I think is to blame...partying, drinking...then ending up in bed with someone you don't know isn't un-common..(this starts at around the age of...fourteen now :( )
And we wonder why the teen pregnancy rate is so high...:(

All this coming from a 17 year old who's seen that scene....it's not a pretty one

[jaybee]

There are loads of teenage pregnancies out there, the more info they get, and the more free advice and product they get the more they go out and do it. Sex is a wonderful thing, but don't think Kids that young should be even thinking about it. I know its unrealistic to think that, but it wasn't long ago that most teenagers just enjoyed life and had fun socialising. Kids should spend more time being kids I say, plenty of time to play house later. There are far to many DPB career holders, I say this as the citizens advice and winz virtually incourage it and accept it. A solo mum for example with 2 kids earns more on the DPB than someone working 40hrs on the adult miimum wage. In fact it works out to be 20% more and it increases to 50% with another child. That doesn't include by the way the accomadation suppliment and IRD rebates for family support. On a whole a solo mum does very well, for nothing. Thanks all us tax payers, we fund and financially support thousands of bludgers, and also thousands of carrer mums, go Labour, comunism at its peak. In terms of Keisha, well it seems to be a family trait, like mother like daughter. We all learn by example, and I guess thats whats tollerated in our society.:weep: :baby:

lol well put and sooo true all for the woman, govt and ird need there heads read

[RT527]

There's far more girls younger than her sleeping around. Just one of the people who made a mistake happened to be a celebrity

SO does that make it Right ??? ....Well does it?

[WINJA]

SO does that make it Right ??? ....Well does it?

EXACTLY , HEY IF KEISHA AND HER UNCLE ARE HAPPY TOGETHER AND WANT A BABY WHO ARE WE TO CRITISIZE

[Ralph]

It's dissapointing to say the least to hear of another teen pregnancy. The fact that shes in the public eye doesn't do her any favours either. It just pisses me off that she'll probably get the DPB and hard working people like so many of us just get shafted by the govt.
I just hope she brings the child up to hopefully not make the same mistake she did and he does the decent thing and stay with her but I can't see that happening being so young.

[Crasherfromwayback]

..partying, drinking...then ending up in bed with someone you don't know

All this coming from a 17 year old who's seen that scene....it's not a pretty one

And if you play your cards right mate, you could still be doing so for decades.

[MyGSXF]

A solo mum for example with 2 kids earns more on the DPB than someone working 40hrs on the adult miimum wage. In fact it works out to be 20% more and it increases to 50% with another child. That doesn't include by the way the accomadation suppliment and IRD rebates for family support. On a whole a solo mum does very well, for nothing. Thanks all us tax payers, we fund and financially support thousands of bludgers,


I for one do not appreciate your comments regarding solo mothers.. I take it you have no kids...?? I can assure you.. being a solo parent is bloody hard work!!!! I am at work 24 hours of the day.. I have no one to come home at the end of the day & 'help'. As well as the total care for 2 young children, I have to do ALL the chores around the house, plus mow the lawns & do the gardens etc. plus being a student at Polytech! I went to see Steve Biddulph, who wrote the books "Raising Boys' & 'The secrets of happy children' & in his seminar he said.. "being a parent is like having a full time job, being a SOLO parent, is like having 2 full time jobs.. CONSECUTIVELY"!!!! I had to take my 4 year old son to A & E at midnight last Sunday, with a serious delayed allergic reaction.. we were there for 2 & 1/2 hours before we could come home.. he was back up again at 8.30 am.. as was I.. I had no one to help me all day Monday with a cranky 4 year old, while I was like a walking zomby myself from a serious lack of sleep.. & you claim.. "a solo mum does very well, for NOTHING". I would like to see you come here & do my JOB for a week.. then, & only then, you might have some sort of right to comment on the life of a solo mother!!

[Finn]

I for one do not appreciate your comments regarding solo mothers.. I take it you have no kids...?? I can assure you.. being a solo parent is bloody hard work!!!! I am at work 24 hours of the day.. I have no one to come home at the end of the day & 'help'. As well as the total care for 2 young children, I have to do ALL the chores around the house, plus mow the lawns & do the gardens etc. plus being a student at Polytech! I went to see Steve Biddulph, who wrote the books "Raising Boys' & 'The secrets of happy children' & in his seminar he said.. "being a parent is like having a full time job, being a SOLO parent, is like having 2 full time jobs.. CONSECUTIVELY"!!!! I had to take my 4 year old son to A & E at midnight last Sunday, with a serious delayed allergic reaction.. we were there for 2 & 1/2 hours before we could come home.. he was back up again at 8.30 am.. as was I.. I had no one to help me all day Monday with a cranky 4 year old, while I was like a walking zomby myself from a serious lack of sleep.. & you claim.. "a solo mum does very well, for NOTHING". I would like to see you come here & do my JOB for a week.. then, & only then, you might have some sort of right to comment on the life of a solo mother!!

Well that's a good start but perhaps we should begin with your childhood...

[doc]

I for one do not appreciate your comments regarding solo mothers.. I take it you have no kids...?? I can assure you.. being a solo parent is bloody hard work!!!! I am at work 24 hours of the day.. I have no one to come home at the end of the day & 'help'. As well as the total care for 2 young children, I have to do ALL the chores around the house, plus mow the lawns & do the gardens etc. plus being a student at Polytech! I went to see Steve Biddulph, who wrote the books "Raising Boys' & 'The secrets of happy children' & in his seminar he said.. "being a parent is like having a full time job, being a SOLO parent, is like having 2 full time jobs.. CONSECUTIVELY"!!!! I had to take my 4 year old son to A & E at midnight last Sunday, with a serious delayed allergic reaction.. we were there for 2 & 1/2 hours before we could come home.. he was back up again at 8.30 am.. as was I.. I had no one to help me all day Monday with a cranky 4 year old, while I was like a walking zomby myself from a serious lack of sleep.. & you claim.. "a solo mum does very well, for NOTHING". I would like to see you come here & do my JOB for a week.. then, & only then, you might have some sort of right to comment on the life of a solo mother!!

No problem with solo mums doing what your doing but you didnt mention anything about DPB. I hope the father of your kids is paying for all of this

[Seraph]

And if you play your cards right mate, you could still be doing so for decades.

Thats the plan....Just not nice to see it starting so early on in the teens.
Ahh it's so hard to be kid now.! it's like things are doing a u'ie and going back to biblical times regarding kids and paretns haha....kids at 16, then brothers and sisters raise their siblings...eep. did some-one say the father was her uncle?...

Single mothers do an excellent job most of the time! raising kids must be a hard job so give them a break, after all would you rather see a child with one of it's biological parents than in a foster home or with social services sucking even more money from the tax payer?..

[jrandom]

I for one do not appreciate your comments regarding solo mothers...

Are you hot?

If you're hot, you see, I'll feel kind of bad about taking the piss. So if you could confirm that before we proceed with this discussion, I'd be most appreciative.

Ta.

[Pussy]

EXACTLY , HEY IF KEISHA AND HER UNCLE ARE HAPPY TOGETHER AND WANT A BABY WHO ARE WE TO CRITISIZE

She probably said "Hey, Uncle, get off me, you're squashing my smokes".

[Crasherfromwayback]

I for one do not appreciate your comments regarding solo mothers.. I take it you have no kids...?? I can assure you.. being a solo parent is bloody hard work!!!! . & you claim.. "a solo mum does very well, for NOTHING". I would like to see you come here & do my JOB for a week.. then, & only then, you might have some sort of right to comment on the life of a solo mother!!

I'm not sure Kitt Wyatt's comments were meant as a 'blanket rule'.

I had no idea just what a job having children to bring up on your own was like until I saw a 'solo mum of two' a few years back. She feed them, dressed them, taught them, delivered them, cleaned them, protected them and loved them. All in between studying nearly full time and working part time when she could. I take my hat off to any woman (or man for that matter) that copes solo. BUT.....I think Kitt Wyatt MAY be saying...that the system is set up for certain people to exploit. Someone that can't be fucked working. Better to have a couple of kids you can ignore and be paid to have, than just the dole.

Especially if you happen to collect the various 'living allowances' whilst living with a 'boyfriend'.

[SlowHand]

A Maori Oprah? Finally. NZ's own garbage talk show.

[MyGSXF]

Are you hot?

If you're hot, you see, I'll feel kind of bad about taking the piss. So if you could confirm that before we proceed with this discussion, I'd be most appreciative.

Ta.


hell yes!!! :innocent:

[SixPackBack]

It's true.

Not one of the local women that I chatted to in the bars at Shekou port last Friday night had ever even heard of NZ.

In the end, I just started pointing to myself and saying "English". It was easier that way...

Did you score?

[Scorpygirl]

I am not getting into the argument about solo mums at all. My Mum was a solo mum cause my Dad died. But I really despair about the messages that Keisha is sending to young girls. It was really interesting on TV tonight that everyone supported her and her supportive family. However are they all going to be there when the child turns 5, 10, 15!! :whistle:

[SwanTiger]

I don't see what all the comotion is about, Keisha and her boyfriend have been togeather since 2003 which for a 'teenager' is quite a long time to be in a relationship. She has three up-comming roles in feature movies and the last time I heard she had established a clothing label with her mother Desrae.

The chances of her going on the DBP, despite being part Maori and a teenager, are extremely slim, in my opinion at least.

More and more all I see on this web site is commentary from ignorant and racist individuals. Cracking a joke is all good, but what the fuck is with all this hate shit?

The only 'significantly' wealthy person I see contributing to this thread is Finn, the rest of you, under assumption, are all pimp squeaks earning fuck all every week slogging your guts out.

You're dumb monkeys going no where. Stop judging people based on insecurities with the decisions you've made in your own life.

[Finn]

I am not getting into the argument about solo mums at all. My Mum was a solo mum cause my Dad died. But I really despair about the messages that Keisha is sending to young girls. It was really interesting on TV tonight that everyone supported her and her supportive family. However are they all going to be there when the child turns 5, 10, 15!! :whistle:

Well I wouldn't think that her family would shit on her on national TV. Of course there's nothing wrong with solo mums as long as it's for geniune reasons and it's not a lifestyle choice as is the case so often. My mother was a solo mum and look at me. Perfect in every way.

[oldguy]

I don't see what all the comotion is about, Keisha and her boyfriend have been togeather since 2003 which for a 'teenager' is quite a long time to be in a relationship. She has three up-comming roles in feature movies and the last time I heard she had established a clothing label with her mother Desrae.

The chances of her going on the DBP, despite being part Maori and a teenager, are extremely slim, in my opinion at least.

More and more all I see on this web site is commentary from ignorant and racist individuals. Cracking a joke is all good, but what the fuck is with all this hate shit?

Nice one SwanTiger, she's going to make heaps selling her story to WomansDay or WomansWeekly as we look at the baby pics, then there would be the wedding pics as we sit in some waiting room reading her life story.

[SwanTiger]

Nice one SwanTiger, she's going to make heaps selling her story to WomansDay or WomansWeekly as we look at the baby pics, then there would be the wedding pics as we sit in some waiting room reading her life story.
Yeah, I can see at least $1,000,000 NZD in potential earnings. $250,000 for baby pictures, $250,000 for the 'my new life story', $250,000 for the 'why we broke up story' and another $250,000 for the 'we're back togeather' story.

If she's smart, banks the money and then moves it into semi-low risk investments, the return per annum is going to be around 11% which is $110,000.

If I was her I'd buy $1 million worth of bonus bonds in $20 lots. Bound to hit that $300 k jackpot at least once! If I didn't win the $300k that year I'd feel sorry for myself and go buy a new ZX14 to help me feel better :buggerd:

[Scorpygirl]

I don't see what all the comotion is about, Keisha and her boyfriend have been togeather since 2003 which for a 'teenager' is quite a long time to be in a relationship. She has three up-comming roles in feature movies and the last time I heard she had established a clothing label with her mother Desrae.

The chances of her going on the DBP, despite being part Maori and a teenager, are extremely slim, in my opinion at least.

More and more all I see on this web site is commentary from ignorant and racist individuals. Cracking a joke is all good, but what the fuck is with all this hate shit?

The only 'significantly' wealthy person I see contributing to this thread is Finn, the rest of you, under assumption, are all pimp squeaks earning fuck all every week slogging your guts out.

You're dumb monkeys going no where. Stop judging people based on insecurities with the decisions you've made in your own life.

Excuse me I never, ever said anything racist, or about DPB!!! I am not ignorant, bigoted or a racist. I am just stating a fact about how young people see role models - be they pregnant, anorexic or rich!! They are role models. I see the same thing with our so called rugby heroes that get pissed and assault people. If you are a role model act like one!!! If you want to be in the lime light go for it. :buggerd:

[SwanTiger]

Excuse me I never, ever said anything racist, or about DPB!!! I am not ignorant, bigoted or a racist. I am just stating a fact about how young people see role models - be they pregnant, anorexic or rich!! They are role models. I see the same thing with our so called rugby heroes that get pissed and assault people. If you are a role model act like one!!! If you want to be in the lime light go for it. :buggerd:

Sorry, forgot to mention that there are obviously exceptions.

However I will call you a slacker for not riding your bike in this lovely weather! or have you been?

[Harry33]

Maybe I'm going out on a limb here but I doubt most 16yrs will be thinking what a great idea. I can see it now "Well if Keisha's going to have a baby I better start fucking". Like horny teenagers need that as a reason.


As for DPB where was it said she's going on that?
A Bad role model, I can think of worse.

To be honest as we don't know her personally,why should we care.
Does she ride a motorbike?

[Swoop]

The scary thing is that with the length of relationships, in our current day and age, she will be rid of the "man in her life" (or vice versa) within a very short time.

[McJim]

Well true. How has this incident been treated internationally anyway? Are british tabloids going 'omg'?

It doesn't even show up - New Zealand is actually very well thought of outside of New Zealand - your crimerate is really really really fucken low. Back home the same shit that is done by your lower socio-econimic groups is done much more regularly, much more violently and at a much younger age by WHITE people in a very low socio-economic group - it just seems to be coincidental that these people are of pacific or Maori descent in New Zealand.

Whale rider was a little movie from a little country that won an award - famous for a week - now forgotten by people who haven't been to New Zealand.

Brutal but true.

Did you know that most of the French can't even remember where the Rainbow Warrior got sunk?

[Coyote]

It doesn't even show up - New Zealand is actually very well thought of outside of New Zealand - your crimerate is really really really fucken low. Back home the same shit that is done by your lower socio-econimic groups is done much more regularly, much more violently and at a much younger age by WHITE people in a very low socio-economic group - it just seems to be coincidental that these people are of pacific or Maori descent in New Zealand.

Whale rider was a little movie from a little country that won an award - famous for a week - now forgotten by people who haven't been to New Zealand.

Brutal but true.

Did you know that most of the French can't even remember where the Rainbow Warrior got sunk?
So in other words this is not a great tradegy that's going to destroy NZ's rep

[oldrider]

I for one do not appreciate your comments regarding solo mothers.. I take it you have no kids...?? I can assure you.. being a solo parent is bloody hard work!!!! I am at work 24 hours of the day.. I have no one to come home at the end of the day & 'help'. As well as the total care for 2 young children, I have to do ALL the chores around the house, plus mow the lawns & do the gardens etc. plus being a student at Polytech! I went to see Steve Biddulph, who wrote the books "Raising Boys' & 'The secrets of happy children' & in his seminar he said.. "being a parent is like having a full time job, being a SOLO parent, is like having 2 full time jobs.. CONSECUTIVELY"!!!! I had to take my 4 year old son to A & E at midnight last Sunday, with a serious delayed allergic reaction.. we were there for 2 & 1/2 hours before we could come home.. he was back up again at 8.30 am.. as was I.. I had no one to help me all day Monday with a cranky 4 year old, while I was like a walking zomby myself from a serious lack of sleep.. & you claim.. "a solo mum does very well, for NOTHING". I would like to see you come here & do my JOB for a week.. then, & only then, you might have some sort of right to comment on the life of a solo mother!!

Hey, without attacking you or being nasty, I would just like you to appreciate one thing.(If you are on the DPB)

As a Taxpayer they have every right to comment on the life of a solo mother on the DPB!

If you are a solo mom on the DPB, we have a right to comment because "WE" are paying for you and it was "NOT" our choice to do that, it was "YOURS".

Please just remember that, even if you have been badly treated by some absconding male "non provider" we may have sympathy for your situation but "we" still get the bill for it and "we" have had no say in the decisions that "you" made for "us".

Anything that is "free" in this world means that someone "else" is paying for it! Yes that is "us" the Taxpayers.

A thank you would be nice rather than your scathing attack (above) on your benefactors! :spanking: Cheers John.

PS: Yes the life of a solo mother (parent) must be very very difficult! It is not for me to judge about that!

[MyGSXF]

Hey, without attacking you or being nasty, I would just like you to appreciate one thing.

As a Taxpayer they have every right to comment on the life of a solo mother on the DPB!

If you are a solo mom on the DPB, we have a right to comment because "WE" are paying for you and it was "NOT" our choice to do that, it was "YOURS".

Please just remember that, even if you have been badly treated by some absconding male "non provider" we may have sympathy for your situation but "we" still get the bill for it and "we" have had no say in the decisions that "you" made for "us".

Anything that is "free" in this world means that someone "else" is paying for it! Yes that is "us" the Taxpayers.

A thank you would be nice rather than your scathing attack (above) on your benefactors! :spanking: Cheers John.



I can assure you I HAVE paid my fair share of taxes.. looking after other peoples kids.. running holidays programmes.. & as a co-ordinator of an after school programme.. as well as other jobs!! & it was NOT MY CHOICE as you suggest.. yes, I was treated badly by an absconding male.. who took a fancy to a nympho bimbo at his work & chose to bonk her... (typical male.. thinks with his LITTLE head!!) we split up.. 6 WEEKS later.. she was off with someone else.. I was left with an 8 year old & an 18 month old to pick up the pieces.. alone! what should I have done.. said.. "aawww.. it's ok honey.. lets pretend nothing happened..."??? There ARE SOME people out there who make the benefit a cozy way of life.. & support their smoking & drinking habits whilst on it.. I am not one of them! I am doing everything I can to make sure my kids are well fed, clothed, educated & are very much loved.. & I am educating myself so I can be in a position to help other people who find themselves in similar positions to what I had to deal with! & don't forget.. there are plenty of solo fathers out there too.. do they get bad press too?????

[SARGE]

thats why i hate "Role Models"

sports heroes.. meh ..,. big deal ... you play with a ball

movie stars .. again .. no talent .. probably slept your way into the parts..

"pop" stars ..when is hunting season for these scumbags?..


you see the " Role Models" on TV every week in trouble with the law over booze or drugs ..no thanks ..

Paris Hilton is a pig ..Brittney Spears deserves every ass kicking she fucking gets .. who fucking cares .. the local celebs get their noses in the air and think they are better than everyone till someone knocks him the fuck out ( BOO YOW!!)


the REAL role models are the parents who work their asses off and sacrifice to raise their kids.....everyone else is an Air Thief

[Lissa]

I just want to say... I don't think there is a more stressful, hard job then being a solo mum or dad, They need as much support as they can get... just my two cents.

[MyGSXF]

The scary thing is that with the length of relationships, in our current day and age, she will be rid of the "man in her life" (or vice versa) within a very short time.


That is true Swoop, about the length of our relationships.. goes hand in hand with the lack of committment!!! & our children are the ones who reep what was sowed... :weep:

[Ixion]

Folks, just a wee preenmptive warning. Don't let things start getting personal, OK. Remember, play the ball not the man (or woman). These are issues where there are going to be different opinions. Lets respect the other persons right to their opinion , and not move that into judgements on people.

That saves a lot of unplesantness, and saves me having to move a lot of posts . OK?

[crashe]

oldrider - Just to let you know that those on the DPB or any other benefit also pay taxes..... yep they do....
They used to get the yellow IRD form every year...... in fact once upon a time they had to fill in all the same forms... but over the years they changed it.

And if they even work for a few hours a week they have to pay secondary tax on those wages... working is classed as a second job for those on a benefit.

so maybe you owe an apology to those on any benefit..... from you to them.

[SARGE]

oldrider.....
Just to let you know that those on the DPB or any other benefit also pay taxes..... yep they do....
They used to get the yellow IRD form every year...... in fact once upon a time they had to fill in all the same forms... ut over the years they changed it.

And if they work for a few hours a week they have to pay secondary tax...

so maybe you owe an apology to those on any benefit..... from you to them.



or maybe cut the Welfare State right out ..


Economic Darwinism coupled with a increased police presence paid for by the money that ISN'T being paid to those who wont pull their weight ..get the absent parents to actually PAY thier child support .. ( in the States .. they take it right out of your pay..no "but i have bills!!" bullshit..)

( i am generalizing of course .. there are many who really need the DPB but lets weed those who are just LAZY out )


my mom was a solo mom while dad was in Viet Nam.. yes .. we got dads pay in the mail.... but mom STILL worked from home babysitting or doing ironing or stuffing envelopes.. she grew a garden and sold the vegies at the market on the weekends


i was a solo dad for 2 years before coming to NZ.. i worked nights so i could hang with the boy after school ( he came with me to NZ BTW)

" i cant work due to family commitments" is a cop-out

[MyGSXF]

oldrider.....
Just to let you know that those on the DPB or any other benefit also pay taxes..... yep they do....
They used to get the yellow IRD form every year...... in fact once upon a time they had to fill in all the same forms... ut over the years they changed it.

And if they work for a few hours a week they have to pay secondary tax...

so maybe you owe an apology to those on any benefit..... from you to them.


You're onto it crashe!!! we do pay tax out of our benefit! & maintenance payments that fathers (are supposed) to make.. go to the IRD.. the mothers don't get it!!! & visa versa.. & should we start working.. then we get taxed PLUS the maintenance payments that we then DO get.. are ALSO taxed!!! :slap: & round & round we go..

Also just a note worth mentioning... on the dpb.. once our youngest child turns 6.. we are then required to undertake some sort of work position or do study. It ain't an 'easy' free ride these days!

[jrandom]

The only 'significantly' wealthy person I see contributing to this thread is Finn, the rest of you, under assumption, are all pimp squeaks earning fuck all every week slogging your guts out.

Are you trolling, or are you a cunt in real life, too?

And it's 'pipsqueaks'. Although I suppose one could be a 'pimp' squeak. But you'd need, like, a cheap white polyester suit. In a small size.

[SARGE]

The only 'significantly' wealthy person I see contributing to this thread is Finn, the rest of you, under assumption, are all pimp squeaks earning fuck all every week slogging your guts out.

You're dumb monkeys going no where. Stop judging people based on insecurities with the decisions you've made in your own life.

oh i dont know .. i do ok.. and the ONLY person i judge myself against is ME..i have no role models .. never have ..never will..

i looked up to my Dad when i was a kid .. then when i was older .. i tried to prove that i was better than him instead of trying to be a carbon copy.. he was Army Special Forces .. i was a US Marine( i played Tuba in the Marine Band.. :innocent:).. he worked VERY hard .. i work SMART..

[oldrider]

oldrider - Just to let you know that those on the DPB or any other benefit also pay taxes..... yep they do....
They used to get the yellow IRD form every year...... in fact once upon a time they had to fill in all the same forms... but over the years they changed it.

And if they even work for a few hours a week they have to pay secondary tax on those wages... working is classed as a second job for those on a benefit.

so maybe you owe an apology to those on any benefit..... from you to them.

Crash, with all due respect. If you are being paid out of taxes and you are taxed, then it is just the same thing! Other people are paying for you! You are not "contributing" to the tax fund, just giving a bit back!

I am not entering into whether or not it is deserved or whether one is a good or bad person, just that anything for free means someone else pays. Cheers John.

[Mr. Peanut]

The only 'significantly' wealthy person I see contributing to this thread is Finn, the rest of you, under assumption, are all pimp squeaks earning fuck all every week slogging your guts out.

You're dumb monkeys going no where. Stop judging people based on insecurities with the decisions you've made in your own life.

Judging by that comment; I'd say you have a few of your own.

[skelstar]

My second thought after seeing that headline was that all the judgemental and holier than though people will the loudest. I detest hero worship of those unworthy, and also detest public judgement of those who dont seek it.

Maybe she wants a baby with her partner?

[oldrider]

I can assure you I HAVE paid my fair share of taxes.. looking after other peoples kids.. running holidays programmes.. & as a co-ordinator of an after school programme.. as well as other jobs!! & it was NOT MY CHOICE as you suggest.. yes, I was treated badly by an absconding male.. who took a fancy to a nympho bimbo at his work & chose to bonk her... (typical male.. thinks with his LITTLE head!!) we split up.. 6 WEEKS later.. she was off with someone else.. I was left with an 8 year old & an 18 month old to pick up the pieces.. alone! what should I have done.. said.. "aawww.. it's ok honey.. lets pretend nothing happened..."??? There ARE SOME people out there who make the benefit a cozy way of life.. & support their smoking & drinking habits whilst on it.. I am not one of them! I am doing everything I can to make sure my kids are well fed, clothed, educated & are very much loved.. & I am educating myself so I can be in a position to help other people who find themselves in similar positions to what I had to deal with! & don't forget.. there are plenty of solo fathers out there too.. do they get bad press too?????

MyGSFX,
I was talking hypothetically about "you" not really making a judgement about yourself.

When I read the post again I thought it did sort of get at you personally but that is not what I intended, how could I, I don't even know you!

So I apologize for any personal inference you may have taken from it.

However I do not take back what I said about taxpayers having to pay for other peoples decision making when it goes wrong and yes Beneficiaries are taxed but that is ridiculous when they are giving back a portion of tax received! Why do they bother with that charade.

I am not against beneficiaries as such, my son is a beneficiary but beneficiaries are just that, they benefit from the wealth of "others" who give to them; I.E. The Taxpayers!

Beneficiaries pay tax but they do not "contribute" to the Tax take! How can they? They don't produce anything fiscally tangible!

Anything that is free means simply, someone else is paying, the government have very little money, they steal it from others and spend it on things that benefit themselves. (Votes) Think about it, you have nothing to feel guilty about, thankful perhaps but not guilty! :hug: Cheers John.

PS: There are some real bastards about, I have a daughter and I have two grand daughters, I really feel for your situation and there but for the grace of god, go I. For what it is worth you have my respect, good luck with your struggle.

[oldrider]

Maybe she wants a baby with her partner?

True, they haven't broken any law and she probably can afford to pay and hasn't asked for any benefit help that is known about.

They have entered into a bond and are producing one of life's miracles and without requesting permission from us! What is our problem?

I, like most of you, felt disappointment, for the obvious reasons but that is probably more about us than them!

Good luck to them. Cheers John.

[padre]

I seriously doubt if little Keisha will qualify for DPB given her likely income and asset base. And if she really wants to be an actress - remembering that she was (only recently) just an inexperienced untrained kid that got lucky at auditions - I am sure she will be easily able to do it. She seems a "nice girl" who has conducted herself with dedcorum in lofty circles thus far.

In fact if she sticks with 1 kid then having the kid now just may be an advantage, a clever move at that, as she won't be (so) tied up in the prime of her career (her 20's). Plus she will have more life experience to deepen her acting. In this modern era I'm sure she can pull the wage in and Daddy can be a house hubby. And if shes a real Maori primary parenting onus is not on her alone - there is the whole whanau not just nuclear family behind her.

I wish this hard working non criminal well with her family and career. Time will tell if she decides to be some stereotype eg Rena Owen with her pub brawling comes fast to mind. So far I see very little evidence of that. In fact it would have been the easiest thing for one like her to bow to abortion pressure. I'm sure she had all the best counselling in that direction too with studios involved. But she seems in the position to support a kid do good luck.:2thumbsup

[SwanTiger]

Are you trolling, or are you a cunt in real life, too?

And it's 'pipsqueaks'. Although I suppose one could be a 'pimp' squeak. But you'd need, like, a cheap white polyester suit. In a small size.
Fucked if I know, can't be bothered worrying about how I come across on the internet let alone in person, if you have a problem PM me for my address otherwise fire a red rep my way.


Judging by that comment; I'd say you have a few of your own.
Judge away Peanus, its a free country (apparently).

[jrandom]

Fucked if I know, can't be bothered worrying about how I come across on the internet let alone in person, if you have a problem PM me for my address otherwise fire a red rep my way.

You are a cunt.

Why would I want your address?

You sound, in fact, like you badly need a joint and a good shag. Just chill, dude. Feel the love, poke fun at the Maoris, be grateful that we live in a country where no child has to grow up in poverty.

[SwanTiger]

You are a cunt.

Why would I want your address?

You sound, in fact, like you badly need a joint and a good shag. Just chill, dude. Feel the love, poke fun at the Maoris, be grateful that we live in a country where no child has to grow up in poverty.
Super.

I don't do drugs and I've already shagged twice today. I'm chilled - voicing my opinion. I do poke fun at Maoris. You're alone on the greatful thing.

Anyway, this thread is turning to shit, which is a pitty, I tried to bite my tounge (so to speak) but who really cares? This thread will be forgotten in a couple of weeks.

[jrandom]

Don't let things start getting personal, OK.

I know I called SwanTiger a cunt, but I didn't mean it personally. Only in the general sense of him generally being a cunt.


Lets respect the other persons right to their opinion...

... but not their right to be a cunt. I don't respect that. In fact, you might say I disrespect that. Virulently, with passion. And prejudice. Unwonted, even. Is there such a thing as wonted prejudice?


That... and saves me having to move a lot of posts

Ooooh. Such oppression! You Stalinist.

[jrandom]

I don't do drugs and... You're alone on the greatful thing.

Fix those two issues and you'll be much less of a cunt.

Fix your spelling, and you'll be less of an uneducated twerp!

Life would be so boring if we were all perfect. Just remember, it's all about the striving...

[jrandom]

Did you score?

Let's just say, dude, that you'd really like Shekou.

[Hillbilly]

Hate to rain on everyone's soapbox, but from the world's view this little girl is a nobody who once starred in a forgettable film from a little country at the bottom of the world.

There are more people in Sydney than than whole of NZ!! Nobody is talking about her, nobody cares!! More newstime was given to the fact that a 78cm model of the USS Enterprise NCC1701-D from "Star Trek: The Next Generation" sold for more than $500,000 USD.

She's just another teenager, and that's all! If she were white and lived in Dunedin, nobody in NZ would care. BTW, before anyone get's on their high horse about me being racist etc, I'm part Aborigine.

[jrandom]

a nobody who once starred in a forgettable film...

I wouldn't go so far as to call Revenge of the Sith 'forgettable'. It wasn't quite at the level of The Empire Strikes Back, but I'd still rate it as the best of the prequels.

[Hillbilly]

Not "Revenge of the Sith", "Whale Rider". Who was she in "Revenge of the Sith?" Didn't even know she was in it.

[James Deuce]

Not "Revenge of the Sith", "Whale Rider". Who was she in "Revenge of the Sith?" Didn't even know she was in it.

She was an Oscar nominee which makes the profile a great deal higher than "just" Whale Rider, which was well crafted and well received by people who can determine the type of work an actor gets in future.

She is pregnant at 16. Two years before the minimum age of consensual sex in the US. She was a protege of George Lucas. I think he's probably lost her number about now.

NZ has huge problems with teenage pregnancy, much more so than Australia.

[scumdog]

The only 'significantly' wealthy person I see contributing to this thread is Finn, the rest of you, under assumption, are all pimp squeaks earning fuck all every week slogging your guts out.

You're dumb monkeys going no where. Stop judging people based on insecurities with the decisions you've made in your own life.

I'm quite happy being a 'pimp squeak earning fuck all every week slogging my guts out', I HAVE to, after all I can't become a solo mum on the DPB can I????? plus what does being 'significantly wealthy' have to do with mana and being wise??? NOTHING.

And this 'dumb monkey going no where' would like to know how much further YOU are going???

Get over fussing about how much worse off everybody else is - you have your own life to live and worry about.

Have a nice day.

[Motu]

Oh boy,once again we have KB members telling others how to live their lives,asigning people they don't know a past,present and future....what gives you this power? As Scumdog says,we have our own little lives to live,to do with as we please.Some of you are really smart,worked hard,made the right decisions and made a success of your lives.....some of us don't have a road map of our lives and make a bit of a mess of it,taking wrong turns and stalling on the big hills,having to ask directions along the way.Sometimes some really stupid decisions turn out all right after all,some smart moves going all wrong.It's what we are here for,and you can help others along the way sometimes,or stand on them to your advantage.And all along we are just part of natures plan - gene carriers,the overiding force is to mix and match and improve the gene pool.

[Mr. Peanut]

Well, I though I was quite nice... :(

[SwanTiger]

He he, I think I've had as many bites as I'm going to get now.

The first part of my post is relevant, the rest is to prove my point - and that is no one likes being judged based on sweeping generalisations or comparisons with other people based on wealth, race, demographic or anything else for that matter.

So why are some ignorant enough to start spouting off assumptions that she (Keisha) will be on the DPB? or that it is wrong to have have a child so early in life? And all the other bullshit.

It stinks in here of ignorance and racism.

And Fish, you're the worst troll ever.

[Quasievil]

before anyone get's on their high horse about me being racist etc, I'm part Aborigine.

Interested to know why you think racisim is only held in the domain of white people?

[Mr. Peanut]

He he, I think I've had as many bites as I'm going to get now.

The first part of my post is relevant, the rest is to prove my point - and that is no one likes being judged based on sweeping generalisations or comparisons with other people based on wealth, race, demographic or anything else for that matter.

So why are some ignorant enough to start spouting off assumptions that she (Keisha) will be on the DPB? or that it is wrong to have have a child so early in life? And all the other bullshit.

It stinks in here of ignorance and racism.

And Fish, you're the worst troll ever.

Because it's funny :beer:

[roogazza]

Hate to rain on everyone's soapbox, but from the world's view this little girl is a nobody who once starred in a forgettable film from a little country at the bottom of the world.

There are more people in Sydney than than whole of NZ!! Nobody is talking about her, nobody cares!! More newstime was given to the fact that a 78cm model of the USS Enterprise NCC1701-D from "Star Trek: The Next Generation" sold for more than $500,000 USD.

She's just another teenager, and that's all! If she were white and lived in Dunedin, nobody in NZ would care. BTW, before anyone get's on their high horse about me being racist etc, I'm part Aborigine.

Did she make the news because she has a poofteenth of maori blood in her , she was in a movie , or she is another Stat ? I guess we have to find some local news. You're right though , nobody gives a shit !!!! G.

[GN1NiteStnd]

Did she make the news because she has a poofteenth of maori blood in her , she was in a movie , or she is another Stat ? I guess we have to find some local news. You're right though , nobody gives a shit !!!! G.

Its sort of good in a way that she got into the headlines, that means that the news people were scraping the bottom of the barrel for any news, which meant that there wasn't enough bad news eg murders, terrorism, car crashes etc.
Yet the negitive out-weighs the positive in this instance, I doesnt even deserve to be mentioned on the news. This is just another example of a growing problem in NZ and no doubt many other countries in the world, it would probably allow young girls to think that it is alright. Especially when Ive heard that shes telling people she planned it all along! That is just wrong.

[Wytch]

Pregnant at 16.. *shock horror* .. Who the hell cares?

This young woman has her whole life ahead of her.. she may be a success.. she may not.. she might marry the father.. she may not.

This is no more a racial issue than we make it.

[Pixie]

This is disgusting. What message does this send? As if young maori girls needed any more motivation to breed.

She was an accidental star and will be short lived. By the time her acting career is over, she'll have 7 kids and will be an honorary member of the DPB.

No ,she'll be a Hollywood superstar.
Like Rena Owen,Remuera Morrison and every other maori flavour of the week

[oldrider]

BTW, before anyone get's on their high horse about me being racist etc, I'm part Aborigine.

Goodness me Hillbilly, I guess that qualification means something to you but to me it just means that you are part Aboriginal!

Congratulations, be proud of who you are!

Does being part Aboriginal (or other dark skinned ethnic race) automatically award you some right to understand and be an authority on "racism"? I think not.

This foolish notion that only white skinned people are racist is bloody ridiculous!

Not a personal attack, just my personal observation on your comment. Cheers John.

[Pixie]

I just want to say... I don't think there is a more stressful, hard job then being a solo mum or dad, They need as much support as they can get... just my two cents.
Actually,in the case of the ethnic subset of society this thread refers to,the hard work of raising the child usually falls on the grandmother

[jrandom]

the rest is to prove my point

I do like the spelling mistakes. Were they intentional?


it is wrong to have have a child so early in life?

Yes, it is, given certain assumptions. Having one at 16 is very, very wrong if you plan on looking after it yourself, quite apart from the fact that everyone changes enormously between 16 and, say, 26.

If you're effectively being a surrogate for mums or aunties who want a baby but can't really have their own, well, I suppose that's fine if everyone's cool with it. Traditional Maori culture aside (and how much of that is truly left?) most of NZ is much more 'nucular family', though. 99% of teen pregnancies may get left with the older generation to look after simply because grandma and grandpa know what would happen if they didn't devote their lives to the poor unasked-for child.


It stinks in here of ignorance...

You expected maybe only the cream of society on this forum?


And Fish, you're the worst troll ever.

I haven't trolled for ages. I'm not an alter any more. When I was, I don't think you could have supported that accusation, though...

[judecatmad]

It's hard to spent time being a kid when there's so much pressure from society to force you to grow up as soon as possable. In this time where it's common for both parents to work long hours, you can be left on your own for most of a day so have to take on tasks and responsibilities(sp?) that a while ago (when a 16 year old was still a 'kid') would have been left up to their parents.
Some-what the social scene and drinking age I think is to blame...partying, drinking...then ending up in bed with someone you don't know isn't un-common..(this starts at around the age of...fourteen now :( )
And we wonder why the teen pregnancy rate is so high...:(

All this coming from a 17 year old who's seen that scene....it's not a pretty one

Seraph - the 'you' statements in this do not necessarily relate to you, so don't take any of this rant personally.

I have to disagree completely - blaming boredom or too much responsibility early on for kids getting pregnant, getting into drugs, causing damage to property etc etc is BS and a reflection of the 'it's not my fault' mentality that pervades our society these days. It's not pressure from society that should be blamed - it's a poor early upbringing and denial of personal responsibility (due to lack of consequences when you stuff up).

1) If the kids had had the correct upbringing in the first place, they would be better equipped to handle the boredom that occasionally comes around, societal pressures or the life events that cause them to have to take on early responsibility.

2) Regardless of upbringing, everyone over the age of 10 should have an understanding of what's right and what's wrong and what's appropriate for the age that you are (I think it's called 'the law'....something like that - if you're under-age, then you really shouldn't be doing it; if it's not OK for grown-ups then you too should not be doing it; if it hurts, maims, causes distress then stop it; if you're bored, go for a run or go and play on your bike instead of tagging everything in sight; and if, at the end of the day, you get caught breaking the law or get caught out doing something you really shouldn't, for God's sake, don't bleat about the fact that your parents work long hours and are not there to wait on your every whim - they work long hours to keep a roof over your head, to give you electronic gadgets galore, to feed and clothe you and to keep their own sense of self-worth rather than going on the DPB).

By the time you're about 10, all of the ground-work should have been done and if it hasn't, you should be old enough at that point to have a sense of right vs. wrong and enough will-power to resist temptation (be it drugs, sex, alcohol or whatever tickles your fancy as a young teen or pre-teen). Unless you've lived in a bubble all of your life, you will know something of the world and its expectations of its members of society.

I can understand and maybe forgive a first misdemeanour (depending on severity) but to keep on blaming others' for your mistakes/ignorance is wrong - at that point, it's all on your own shoulders or, at least, it should be.

My mum died when I was 13 and I was regularly left home alone by my dad due to both his work and social lives (3am was not an uncommon return time for him). I was also left to my own devices pretty much every weekend. Had to grow up pretty quick and take on all the responsibilities of running a house AND going to school and I still managed to get a damn good education and stay out of trouble.

I'm not advocating leaving kids home alone, or forcing kids to grow up before they are ready, but I'd personally say that most of the younger social issues today are due to the removal of any responsibility for your own actions and the complete lack of consequences for the same (read "nanny state"). There's also a huge lack of parental guidance and discipline at a very young age and that has a really big impact on who we grow up to be.

Now, back to Keisha - yes, her parents were very wrong to be leaving her to do whatever she pleased with her b/f of 3 years, his parents were also very wrong to be leaving him to do whatever he pleased with a (then) 13 year old. But....they (K and b/f) both should have known better.

And yes, it's a sad thing that her Hollywood career is now most probably over and yes, she should have thought a lot more about her public life before going ahead and blindly doing whatever it was she wanted to do (or more likely, couldn't be bothered doing...). She should have known better -especially since the age of consent in California is actually 18. There we go again with the breaking the law thing......

Yes, it does reflect badly on NZ (it shouldn't but it does) but take heart that most Yanks really don't know NZ even exists, let alone where we are in relation to the rest of the world.....

And yes, probably the saddest thing is that she really is living up to the stereotype.

But if she's happy and he's happy then hey, who cares? Hedonism is what it's all about these days.....isn't it?

[Fishy]

She lives in Glen Innes, I'm surprised she didn't get up the duff earlier. The girls in that area are normally preggers by about 14.

[SARGE]

my neice is 19.. she just had her 3rd kid..first was at 15.. her B/F is a DNA dead end.. wont pay to support her or the kid.. beats the stuffing out of her at every opportunity..my sister now is forced to raise Peggy and her spawn while holding down 2 jobs.. Peggy wont work..


but she LOVES him ( "uncle D... please stop hitting him .. i love him...")


her life is planned...

[riffer]

Crikey Sarge. That's pretty sad.

[GN1NiteStnd]

I am the product of a teenage pregnancy, my parents arent the greatest match, but they are keeping it together for the kids. My mother has been extremely strict with us all, in an effort to stop us from doing the same thing, but that isnt the best way to go about it. No boyfriends until you have finished you education (includes EIT), no after school job, no parties, no alcohol, no license, bedtime at 8.30, and she kept that up until I moved out at almost 19. Took me that long to relise that it wasn't normal. I ended up going to frog's house one day, yip she finally let up on the boyfriend thing, and not coming back. I rang her up to say if she didn't let up I wasn't coming home, and she just screamed through the phone so I hung up on her. I tried again once a day for about two weeks (holidays) I ended up coming for my stuff when they were at work/school. But they had hidden my computer, with my assignments on it, so I was forced to meet them in person. When I finally meet with them they decided that if I wanted my computer I had to leave my bed behind. What the?! But now we all get along fine, my family members opened up to me after I moved out about how they were so glad I was out of there.

[Lias]

Silly girls should have remember "up the bum no babies!"

[JimO]

Silly girls should have remember "up the bum no babies!"

i thought thats how you got dark skinned babies

:Pokey:

[Lias]

Bike: get a big black dog up ya

I think that might exactly what she did!

[ManDownUnder]

Silly girls should have remember "up the bum no babies!"

Does that apply to boys too?

... just wondering... :whistle:

[doc]

I can assure you I HAVE paid my fair share of taxes.. looking after other peoples kids.. running holidays programmes.. & as a co-ordinator of an after school programme.. as well as other jobs!! & it was NOT MY CHOICE as you suggest.. yes, I was treated badly by an absconding male.. who took a fancy to a nympho bimbo at his work & chose to bonk her... (typical male.. thinks with his LITTLE head!!) we split up.. 6 WEEKS later.. she was off with someone else.. I was left with an 8 year old & an 18 month old to pick up the pieces.. alone! what should I have done.. said.. "aawww.. it's ok honey.. lets pretend nothing happened..."??? There ARE SOME people out there who make the benefit a cozy way of life.. & support their smoking & drinking habits whilst on it.. I am not one of them! I am doing everything I can to make sure my kids are well fed, clothed, educated & are very much loved.. & I am educating myself so I can be in a position to help other people who find themselves in similar positions to what I had to deal with! & don't forget.. there are plenty of solo fathers out there too.. do they get bad press too?????

I can sympathise with you but we still have to pay for your problem, I'm a male and have a pulse and if the "Balls are full the brain is empty" How the hell do you expect us Hunter Gatherers to think with a Hard On. We should really be using our Hunting and Gathering skills to hunt the Fucker down and improve his thinking skills "We have the Technology"

[Lou Girardin]

Silly girls should have remember "up the bum no babies!"

A bad case of piles though. (speed bumps)

[MyGSXF]

I'm a male and have a pulse and if the "Balls are full the brain is empty" How the hell do you expect us Hunter Gatherers to think with a Hard On.


God gave man a brain & a penis... & only enough blood to supply ONE at a time..!!! :nya:

[Finn]

God gave man a brain & a penis... & only enough blood to supply ONE at a time..!!! :nya:

And God gave woman a vagina and a mouth which gave man some options.

[Paul in NZ]

I stayed out of this...

Personally - I think the whole thing is a bit sad. Good luck to her, it may work out but honestly the odds are against it. Still, my hope is she, her partner and her baby have a happy life.

Whats even sadder is we expect this poor child to be a role model for Maori. She is a real person and all we know of her really is a fictional character in a bloody film. FFS - when have actors EVER been a decent role model for our kids, Maori, french or anyone. Rock Hudson? That Munroe woman? Christ the list of friggin disasters is endless. The media industry is called the dream factory for a reason - it's a bloody dream - not reality.

The media need to front up here. Stop glorifing their own dreams of imortality and give society role models that achieve and contribute to society. Firemen, Ambos, Nurses, Doctors, Civil Engineers, Mechanics, Dads and Mums that put their familes dreams in front of their own, Soldiers on Peacekeeping missions, Police that do GOOD things (yes there are some).... Even self made men like our own uber business guru Finn is a better role model than an actor (a noble profession but not one all our kids should aspire to). Its not REAL.

The focus is on the easy buck - fame at all costs. Even if it means killing some one eh? Better a famous criminal than a nobody.

Nah - the crime is not that she is pregnant, thats a bugger (in my opinion) but no biggie - the shame is, we expect a fictional character to become a role model for our young people.

[doc]

And God gave woman a vagina and a mouth which gave man some options.

Typical MV owner comment just cos you've got an intake close to an exhaust.And I've seen your profile pic your'e a pretty tall poppy for a Dwarf.

[doc]

God gave man a brain & a penis... & only enough blood to supply ONE at a time..!!! :nya:

GOD YOUR HOT

[The_Dover]

errr, why do we care if some plastic maori with a double barrelled name is impregnated? she can afford it and it wasn't me, that's all I care.

and why do little coons need other coons as role models? aren't us white cunts good enough?

[JimO]

errr, why do we care if some plastic maori with a double barrelled name is impregnated? she can afford it and it wasn't me, that's all I care.

and why do little coons need other coons as role models? aren't us white cunts good enough?


classic

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[Finn]

And I've seen your profile pic your'e a pretty tall poppy for a Dwarf.

That's little person to you sonny.

[SPORK]

I for one do not appreciate your comments regarding solo mothers.. I take it you have no kids...?? I can assure you.. being a solo parent is bloody hard work!!!! I am at work 24 hours of the day.. I have no one to come home at the end of the day & 'help'. As well as the total care for 2 young children, I have to do ALL the chores around the house, plus mow the lawns & do the gardens etc. plus being a student at Polytech! I went to see Steve Biddulph, who wrote the books "Raising Boys' & 'The secrets of happy children' & in his seminar he said.. "being a parent is like having a full time job, being a SOLO parent, is like having 2 full time jobs.. CONSECUTIVELY"!!!! I had to take my 4 year old son to A & E at midnight last Sunday, with a serious delayed allergic reaction.. we were there for 2 & 1/2 hours before we could come home.. he was back up again at 8.30 am.. as was I.. I had no one to help me all day Monday with a cranky 4 year old, while I was like a walking zomby myself from a serious lack of sleep.. & you claim.. "a solo mum does very well, for NOTHING". I would like to see you come here & do my JOB for a week.. then, & only then, you might have some sort of right to comment on the life of a solo mother!!
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That's very well and good but the country does not need more children. I fail to see why having kids is worth more to our society than working for a living. I mean, it's not like it takes anyone special to knock out a coupla sprats? Not directed at you, btw.

[The_Dover]

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That's very well and good but the country does not need more children. I fail to see why having kids is worth more to our society than working for a living. I mean, it's not like it takes anyone special to knock out a coupla sprats? Not directed at you, btw.

NEWSFLASH DUDE.

You gotta get laid first.

You fail.

[MyGSXF]

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I mean, it's not like it takes anyone special to knock out a coupla sprats? .


Maybe not.. but it DOES take someone special to take on their whole district health board & fight them for 4 years, for accountability.. because of their lack of care, attention, communication, & not following their own protocols.. thus causing the near death of one of the said children.. (The neo-natal intensive care unit did not expect him to survive..) & said case, in turn sparks nationwide reviews of policy to ensure this never happens again.. this child, you claim the country doesn't need.. has changed the face of maternity treatment, thus ensuring the safety & lives of every child bearing woman, & her child, in this country....