Something's not right

[Fox Rider]

Went for a nice cruise over the hills with a couple of guys and all was well until i took off for the ride home.
Got about 200m away from the guys house and there is a set of traffic lights (Light was red) so i slowed down like you usually do at a red light and i had just about stopped when the front wheel simply slipped out from underneath me for no reason at all.

So bike is on the ground, I get up and lift the heavy beast up and wheel it to the sidewalk (Obviously no cars stop and help until im on the sidewalk and all the hard work has been done) and i go to where it all happened looking for a oil spill or something and there was nothing!

Im sure front wheels dont just slip out for no reason, especially after being on a ride with no problems.

Any ideas why it did that?

The elder and one of the guys I went riding with suggested the front suspension which sounded good enough to me, but someone else might have another idea so thought id ask you guys...

[Str8 Jacket]

Went for a nice cruise over the hills with a couple of guys and all was well until i toke

Hmm, maybe that was your problem?...

Sorry cant help you with what actually happened though. Sounds like a case of bad luck!

[Fox Rider]

Hmm, maybe that was your problem?...

Sorry cant help you with what actually happened though. Sounds like a case of bad luck!

Mmmm maybe, Spelling does seem to have a affect on my riding.

Yeah thats what i said but it has done that before, except it was at a much higher speed and i dont really want it happening again because as we all know crashing isnt fun.
Could be double bad luck

[Shaun]

Take your bishop to have the front end and brakes checked out, it sounds like you do not have a lot of mechanical apptitude, so get it checked by a professional!

[Fox Rider]

Take your bishop to have the front end and brakes checked out, it sounds like you do not have a lot of mechanical apptitude, so get it checked by a professional!

No, i wouldnt be even close to a mechanic.

I have taken it to budget motorcycle spares and all they said was "Your front disc is getting worn and looking a bit like this ][ which isnt helpful so buy some new discs from us for a extremely high price and you will be much happier".

Maybe it is the discs, i wouldnt know hence the reason im asking you guys but its worth a try i suppose. Need to be changed anyway

[Karma]

Even if the discs had jammed fully you'd have felt the sharp braking.

If the front wheel just basically came out from under you then my first idea would be oil. You said you've checked it for any patches, but it might have been washed away or something.

Also, check the tyre pressure ;) and whether your tyre has any bald spots on it at all

[Fox Rider]

Even if the discs had jammed fully you'd have felt the sharp braking.

If the front wheel just basically came out from under you then my first idea would be oil. You said you've checked it for any patches, but it might have been washed away or something.

Also, check the tyre pressure ;) and whether your tyre has any bald spots on it at all

Yeah, thats exactly what it did and yeah i did check for oil patchs but didnt find any although it was at traffic lights where cars obviously stop and drip oil everywhere so thats probably the best bet so far.

Just checked the tyre pressure about 5 minutes ago and it said 32psi which is apparently almost perfect according to the guys at budget.
Front tyre is not looking new but it still has enough tread on it to survive a stop like that.

[Ixion]

IT doesn't take much to lock the wheel in that last little bit of braking, it's almost stopped anyway.

Oil, polished seal, stone, jandal , who knows. If your brakes feel OK from higher speeds it's unlikely there's anything wrong with them or your suspension. But by all means take it in and get professional reassurance

[Lil_Byte]

The only time I had an experience like that was at about 5kph as I was slowing for an corner on the GSX and it had just started hailing.

I found the front end to be very unstable at low speed on ilttle round ball bearing shaped things. There was no warning at all.

My 2 cents worth anyway:beer:

[jonbuoy]

I would say you hit an oil spot or something, I've had the same thing before under gentle braking in the wet - its like hitting ice.

[Wasp]

bandits arnt heavy to pick up from the ground, vtzs on the other hand......

never had my front slide unless delibretly done by myself

[WRT]

Any paint on the road? An arrow or something like that? They get damned slippery - steer clear of them where ever possible, and dont try to corner or brake on any painted surface in the wet (damned shame they seem to like painting the bus lanes green, innit?).

[terbang]

Sounds like a contaminated road. Trev Kirby at Budget knows bandits fairly well so maybe his advice is good too. Seems a straight guy to me. My old bandit went all soggy in the springs at around 20000 kays and had a bad habit of diving around roundabouts ETC at lower speeds. Maybe there is merit in having your front suspension checked there as well.

[Pathos]

It's happened to me once but I was braking hard on damp tarmac to avoid an suv.

I think if your front wheel catches and you're leaning a little even the slightest it can throw you off.

[Biff]

I vote diesel.

[Fox Rider]

bandits arnt heavy to pick up from the ground, vtzs on the other hand......

never had my front slide unless delibretly done by myself

250 bandits are very heavy compared to alot of other 250's ive tried. Not the lightest bike anyway, but i might just be used to the motoX bikes

[Fox Rider]

Sounds like a contaminated road. Trev Kirby at Budget knows bandits fairly well so maybe his advice is good too. Seems a straight guy to me. My old bandit went all soggy in the springs at around 20000 kays and had a bad habit of diving around roundabouts ETC at lower speeds. Maybe there is merit in having your front suspension checked there as well.

Yeah, sounds accurate.

My front suspension used to be so soft that when i changed gear it almost bottomed out so we topped it up and made it so it was soft and then it went hard so it didnt bottom out at all so that could have something to do with it?...

Or like alot of people are saying, just a invisible/washed away oil patch.

No paint on this intersection except the lines in front which i didnt hit.

[Wasp]

250 bandits are very heavy compared to alot of other 250's ive tried. Not the lightest bike anyway, but i might just be used to the motoX bikes
my model bandit is 140kg dry, the vtz is 180 and takes more oil and has a bigger fuel tank.

its light.

[moko]

Sounds like a patch of diesel to me,bloody evil stuff.Someone could have just filled up and maybe had to brake hard for the lights and dropped some.We have problems here with bus drivers over-filling and spilling the excess on corners so it`s far from unknown.Bloody stuff is just like ice and unless the road`s wet or there`s a lot of it you probably wouldn`t notice a small spot,dont forget you`ve got a very small contact "footprint" with bike tyres,dosnt take a hell of a lot to turn that into "non-contact".I nearly dropped a GS850 on diesel years back,brand new and only picked it up 6 hours earlier,not a nice feeling,put my foot down which is about the stupidest thing to do but luckily it did the trick.I dropped my bike on ice last December and it was exactly as you say,I was actually just about stopped and it went,diesel feels the same.