Star Wars vs. Star Trek

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Ok... so who's a fan of which (or neither)?

I'm personally more of a fan of Star Wars... but I know there are die-hard trekkie fans out there too

Dunno if this has been done before.. if so - humble apologies

[Indiana_Jones]

I'm a star wars man myself

-Indy

[Steam]

Anything with spacecraft and teratonne weaponry gets my vote. I guess I'm more of a Trekkie though.
Imagine how cool Star Trek could be if they spent as much money on it as the new Star Wars films.

But saying all that, Firefly is the most awesome of all. Serenity the movie, ahh sweetness.
It was the grimy-ness, the lived-in feeling, that made it so cool. The main thing that bugs me about ST is how clean everything is.

[Fatjim]

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[MattRSK]

I like the pursuit of girls. So never really had a chance to decide.

[SixPackBack]

Not much compares with '7 of 9' she can assimilate me anytime

[Steam]

Yep, Star Trek sure has more babes. Sigh, imaginary scifi babes...
Thank god for fakeclub.com and startreknude.com

[The_Dover]

fuck that shit.

red dwarf.

[SixPackBack]

fuck that shit.

red dwarf.

You like Rimmer huh Maurice..........no pussy on Red Dwarf:whistle:

[SPman]

fuck that shit.

red dwarf.

More like home?

or mebbee KB.

[Steam]

I'd like to see a bigger poll, with;

Star Trek
Star Wars
Red Dwarf
Babylon 5
Firefly
Dr Who
Stargate SG1
Lexx
Battlestar Galactica
And others up to the 10 max poll options.
Maybe I'll do this in 6 months or so, once this poll is had its time.

[mstriumph]

I'm a star wars man myself

-Indy

shouldn't you be off saving the coastline from aussi tourists or something?

[Kyle]

Personally i would pick star trek, because they get into the science side of it abit more, they use theorys that could be possable given the right elements, where star wars just engage the lightspeed hyper drive and next thing they arrive at a new planet, i mean even travelling at lightspeed it would take 4 years to reach our nearest star. But i do love star wars too, its problery more realistic in their approch to how aliens would look. Like in star trek alot of aliens look human, where in star wars most aliens are very alien indeed. Considering the age of both ideas its amazing that both themes are still going strong. Apparantly some technology from star trek has made its way into our real lifes. The idea for cellphones came from star trek "Krik here, beam me up scotty" Its quite exciting to think that maybe oneday even transporters may be in use, step in here, step out in USA, or anywhere. We`ve come a long way in only 100 years, imagine what we`ll have in another 100. My grandmother was telling me how she remembers when calculators first came out, they used to work it out on paper aswell, just incase the calculator was wrong. In my life time ive seen microwaves become household items, cellphones invented, personal computers in nearly every house, fuel injection and computer controled ignition become mainstream in vehicles. Its heartening to see my grandparents using computers with ease, it means that what ever amazing new technology were in for next, we`ll be able to adjust and use it like we always had it. Any way, im rambling again, my vote, star trek, and star wars a close second place. :2thumbsup

[Indiana_Jones]

shouldn't you be off saving the coastline from aussi tourists or something?

Went out, changed my mind, came back.

Was merchant navy anyways.

moving on.

Carrie Fisher was ok in ROTJ


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-Indy

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I'd like to see a bigger poll, with;

Star Trek
Star Wars
Red Dwarf
Babylon 5
Firefly
Dr Who
Stargate SG1
Lexx
Battlestar Galactica
And others up to the 10 max poll options.
Maybe I'll do this in 6 months or so, once this poll is had its time.

sorry mate - just went with the two sci fi heavy weights in my own humble opinion

if any mod's can change the poll please do... I'm not sure if I can - if I can, let me know

[SpankMe]

Star Trek has Jeri Ryan and Jolene Blalock. What the fuck does Star Wars have?

But The Lexx is the best sci-fi.

[Sketchy_Racer]

errr.

Yeah cause star twars is cool..... You know, for adults an stuff......

[Indiana_Jones]

Star Trek has Jeri Ryan and Jolene Blalock. What the fuck does Star Wars have?

But The Lexx is the best sci-fi.

I just said Fisher, man!

-Indy

[Kyle]

I was going to say never mind kirk and spock, "the next generation" "Voyager" and the new "enterprise" star trek are the best ones. But i think Spankme has just pointed out exactly why those ones seem like the best, sex appeal. :2thumbsup

[Jonny Rotten]

fuck that shit.

red dwarf.

im goin to have to agree with dover on this one.......

[Maha]

Cousin Daisy in cutoffs...beats big ears everytime and dont get me started on 84R2b3 or whatever his/her name was....:mad: :lol:

[Harry33]

Out of the two choices, I'd pick star wars. But I have to agree with Steam,Firefly is the shit.

A couple of the pics look weird. The first pic of Jeri Ryans boobs look fake. I mean she does have a great set of boobs but I can't imagine her wearing a top like that. You can amost see her nips. The girl in the last pic has one hell of a crazy belly button.

[Colapop]

Buck Rogers would kick both of their arses!!

[Indiana_Jones]

Picard > Kirk

-Indy

[marty]

voyager enterprise and next generation for me, although scott bakula is not as good as patrick stewart

[Colapop]

Picard > Kirk

-Indy
No way!! Denny Crane can kick his arse!! (or shoot him)

[MattRSK]

Yeah, nah I am still going with my option. The pursuit of real live females.

[Harry33]

Man when I was a kid I had a crush on wilma Deering from Buck Rogers.:buggerd:

[marty]

but denny crane kicks kirks arse too........

[MattRSK]

Don't let Chuck Norris hear you say that!

[McJim]

Just borrowed Firefly the entire series from Maverick - enjoyed it a lot. Don't know about saying what's the best and what's not - voted Star Wars coz I remember watching the first one in 1977 in a cinema and was totally gobsmacked for years afterwards - Star Trek was enjoyable but not Gobsmacking. They are so different from each other - Star Wars is very finite in it's scope having a clearly defined beginning and end where as Star Trek is a constantly evolving thing - I mean look at the Klingons then and now..."We don't talk about it" was the only reference I saw to it - cop out or what? Too many episodes and films of Star Trek too - got fed up trying to follow them all - takes up too much life methinks.

Books are best - try the Gap series by Stephen Donaldson - good reading - and people don't stand on the floor of a spaceship in deep space either!

[Colapop]

The jury is out on just what Denny did or did not do to his arse...

Erin Gray - was a hottie...

[Indiana_Jones]

Michael Keaton was the best Batman in the movies.


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and Michelle Pfeiffer as cat women


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-Indy

[Big Dave]

Erin Gray - was a hottie...

schwingggg!

[Swoop]

Where's the Thunderbirds option....:done:

[Drunken Monkey]

Where's the Thunderbirds option....:done:

In Lock, Stock & 2 Smoking Barrels, didn't old 'atchet 'arry say something like "I don't care which box you tick, as long as they ain't f**king puppets" ???

[Swoop]

In Lock, Stock & 2 Smoking Barrels, didn't old 'atchet 'arry say something like "I don't care which box you tick, as long as they ain't f**king puppets" ???

? Beats me, I can't remember the lines.
Brilliant movie though (LSA2SB)!!!

[axxaa]

I'm a Star Trek fan but after watching Firefly trek looks looks a little stale.

[NighthawkNZ]

They are so different from each other - Star Wars is very finite in it's scope having a clearly defined beginning and end where as Star Trek is a constantly evolving thing - I mean look at the Klingons then and now..."We don't talk about it" was the only reference I saw to it - cop out or what? Too many episodes and films of Star Trek too !

That gets answered in Enterprise...


I am just a Scifi freek.. I don't care as long as if its scifi :-) :dodge:

[gijoe1313]

Any film which has The Empire Strikes Back and the main man Boba Fett will always get my vote! I'm still in awe of what SW is and has contributed, the countless in-jokes I've seen referencing it and the nerdy conversations I've overheard (and participated in) will always be part of me.

Don't get me wrong, I love everything that uses (quote : Spongebob Squarepants) "Immmmaaaggggginnnnaaaatioooon!" but if'n I could only take one film to watch for all time on a deserted island...TESB is it.

Die Wanna Wanga?

(I've just finished reading The Bounty Hunter War series and now onto "Tales from Jabba's Palace")

And oh yeah, Klaatu...Barada...Nikto!

[Street Gerbil]

My vote is for Stargate SG1.

[Drunken Monkey]

? Beats me.


***whoosh***

[Squeak the Rat]

There is only one.




Blakes 7.

[Steam]

There is only one.




Blakes 7.

Hell Yeah! I liked Space Commander Travis especially. Who knew anyone called Travis could be so frightening? And Servalan, I still have a thing for women with short hair because of her. Wait a minute, Servelan is Helen Clark!

[Marmoot]

...The idea for cellphones came from star trek "Krik here, beam me up scotty" Its quite exciting to think that maybe oneday even transporters may be in use, step in here, step out in USA, or anywhere. ...

Blasphemy.........Can you imagine what would happen to bikes if this happens?
Yes.....we'll be banned by the govnment for sure

[Lias]

Not a huge starwars or trek fan.. though I prefer the starwars universe over the star trek universe.

Gimme B5, Farscape, Lexx, or Red Dwarf any day.

[Motu]

It has to be Star Trek,they were the first.Lost in space was a kids program and we knew it,but Star Trek was an adults show and on late...and we got to stay up and watch it because it was real ground breaking stuff.

My daughters who are in their 20's watched the Star Trek reruns as kids and are Trekkies,my boys are watching the reruns now,and we can't get them to go anywhere on a sunday until both Star Treks are over.I never watched much of New Generation,I was an adult then and life was too busy for TV,so the re runs are kinda interesting.The Deep Space Nine thing wasn't Scifi,it was more Shortland St in space....watching aliens having relationship problems is not my idea of science fiction.

Star Wars is a better story and world and much more fun for kids.

[Harry33]

Hell Yeah! I liked Space Commander Travis especially. Who knew anyone called Travis could be so frightening? And Servalan, I still have a thing for women with short hair because of her. Wait a minute, Servelan is Helen Clark!

Don't forget "Avon" he was the man. Kind of liked the name Avon when I was younger now it just seems gay.

[erik]

The Deep Space Nine thing wasn't Scifi,it was more Shortland St in space....watching aliens having relationship problems is not my idea of science fiction.

It was advertised as "Melrose Place in space" ages ago when it was on tv4. :)
(or maybe that was Voyager...?)

I had to see the Phantom Menace twice because I didn't believe the first time how bad it was. The old star wars movies are neat though.

I haven't seen much of the original star trek series. But I like voyager, ds9, and I'm just working my way through The Next Generation at the moment, it's great.

I've seen the whole Enterprise series... the first season was ok, but it went downhill pretty rapidly from there.

I was pretty disappointed with the latest star trek movie "nemesis".

Firefly, Red Dwarf, the new Battlestar Galactica (which has just started it's 3rd season - have to start watching them) are all great shows.

Lexx was a little disturbing, but kinda cool.


I'm a Star Trek fan but after watching Firefly trek looks looks a little stale.

So true, but give it a chance, you'll get back into it.

Gotta go watch motogp now (see, i'm not a total geek). ;)

[Motu]

A few weeks ago in the original Star Trek was an episode with a young Ricardo Montalban playing Khan.....who later repised the role in the Star Trek movie Wrath of Khan.I never knew that episode existed,although I may of seen it as a kid.Ricardo Montalban was a bit player who appeared in countless tv programs and movies in some ethnic role,instantly recognised by his strong voice....so a Star Trek episode wouldn't of stood out.

I must be a Trekkie if I find such details interesting.....

[gijoe1313]

"The plane, the plane!...."

Which leads into ..."There's something....on the wing!"

And into 3rd Rock from the sun...

Which predated the credits in MIB

During Spaceballs "My Schwartz is bigger than yours!"

And Now for something completely different!

[Hillbilly]

There's a website dedicated to showing all the starships from all the most popular shows/films in scale with each other. The USS Enterprise ain't that big compared to a Star Destroyer. Not even Picard's Sovereign class NCC1701-E is that big. Take a look for yourselves here (http://www.merzo.net/)

[Pixie]

Personally i would pick star trek, because they get into the science side of it abit more,

Yep,star whores wasn't science fiction at all,just a dumb swashbuckler in space

And the original star trek hard some quite innovative lighting and camera techniques for a sixties series

[SlashWylde]

Firefly kicks ass over Star Trek Wars, and Morena Baccarin is a godess :gob:

[avgas]

Firefly kicks ass over Star Trek Wars, and Morena Baccarin is a godess :gob:
Hell yes - i bought that series as soon as i saw it. It is so full of motorcycle philosopy....like...."Wer'e still flying.....sometimes dats all you need"
or
"How bad is it?"
"Oh god, oh god, we're all gonna die?"
"Oh"

[avgas]

Farscape, Lexx, or Red Dwarf any day.
Yes, no those were shows

[Drunken Monkey]

...

Lexx was a little disturbing, but kinda cool.

...


That's why it was cool. At least season 1 with Eva Habermann. If you can't write a winning Sci-Fi using the formula of "Western noir in space" with cool gadgets & stunning visual effects then you need to break ground and do something a little (or a lot, if you're brave) off-beat. Lexx was one of these shows. Farscape was similar, but a kinda watered down for the sci-fi channel version.

I like some of the work people have done making Philip K Dick novels come to the screen, most notably "Blade runner", however The minority report was a great adaptation to screen as well. Pay check (sic) wasn't a bad effort either.

I'd like to see someone put a few William Gibson stories to screen.


...star whores wasn't science fiction at all,just a dumb swashbuckler in space...

That's what OG Sci-Fi is! The genre came about around the same time 'the west was won'. 'Traditional', i.e. formulaic, Sci-Fi (stories) follows the same themes. That's precisely why writers like Wells, Huxley, Asimov (to name a few) are singled out - they didn't follow the formula.

[Steam]

Lexx was one of these shows.

Yep, Lexx was the most groundbreaking show in the last decade I think, it was so different. I don't enjoy it as much as classic Trek but WOW, some of Lexx was mindblowing.


I'd like to see someone put a few William Gibson stories to screen.

Remember Johnny Mnemonic? Ohmygod that was so so bad. William Gibson done well would be very similar to the first Matrix film, frikking incredible.

[metric]

I like some of the work people have done making Philip K Dick novels come to the screen, most notably "Blade runner", however The minority report was a great adaptation to screen as well. Pay check (sic) wasn't a bad effort either.

I'd like to see someone put a few William Gibson stories to screen.

Totally agree... or anything by Neal Stephenson - awesome author

[iwilde]

Starwars was cool till battlestar galactica came along...Not!!!

[Steam]

Starwars was cool till battlestar galactica came along...Not!!!

Have you seen the new Battlestar Galactica? It rocks, seriously cutting-edge camera-work, realistic physics, ships laying down anti-missile fire like today's carriers, and care is taken on things like the distortion in radio transmissions from fighters. And tens of thousands of people die, are sacrificed by the main characters, now you wouldn't see that in Star Wars.

[Hillbilly]

Here in OZ, the sci-fi shows are all aired after 10.30 at night! That included Star trek: Enterprise, Stargate: Atlantis, and BattleStar Galactica.
It really sucks as BG finished and it wasn't advertised that it was the final in the series!

[erik]

Here in OZ, the sci-fi shows are all aired after 10.30 at night! That included Star trek: Enterprise, Stargate: Atlantis, and BattleStar Galactica.
It really sucks as BG finished and it wasn't advertised that it was the final in the series!
bittorrent is your friend.

[SpankMe]

Just brought the Star Trek: Borg fan collective (http://www.gpstore.co.nz/DVDs/1516290.html). Tried looking for a download, but the episodes were 170MB instead of the usual 350MB per episode.

I guess I'm gonna have a non stop Borg weekend soon. :D

[SpankMe]

In what episode did Lieutenant Torres cop a feel of Seven of Nine's right breast?