This is your final warning! [Archive]

Finn

17th October 2006, 06:54

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=1&ObjectID=10406252

Here is our government in action again telling us how to run our lives. I'm sorry, but we appoint you. You work for us for blood sucking leeches. He's an idea Labour, why don't you focus on the stuff that really matters you incompetent bunch of fucken morons.

1) You murder people in our hospitals with incompetence
2) You create little labourites in our schools that can't spell, speak English or think for themselves
3) Going over the speed limit by 10 k's is more of a crime and a higher priority than robbery and violence
4) You tax the fuck out of us and don't provide a good standard of living so 650 of us leave a week. You replace these with Labour voting 3rd world immigrants
5) You're anti business, so kiwi companies can't compete and end up being sold to multinationals
6) You're the most corrupt government NZ has ever had...

And you're worried about fireworks?

Guy Fawkes had the right idea.

jetboy

17th October 2006, 07:02

haha I reckon. Such a beautiful country but what an incompetent government! And they wonder why people are getting sick and tired of this crap and heading overseas

The_Dover

17th October 2006, 07:08

settle petal, you can sell up and fuck off soon.

the rest of us are too poor to leave!

Wasp

17th October 2006, 07:09

better make it this year that I blow up my L plate then ;)

Motu

17th October 2006, 07:26

Driven by dumbfucks who blame the fireworks and not the dumbfuck with the match.

Mind you I was pretty fucking stupid with fireworks when they were a damn sight more dangerous than they are these days....but I was still smarter than kids these days because I was educated under the Holyoak National Government schooling system - straps and canes.

Swoop

17th October 2006, 08:04

Finn (& Motu), you are so damn right on all those counts!

Fuc*en nanny state....

SpankMe

17th October 2006, 08:16

For fucks sake, thats what the bloody firemen are paid for. They should just shut the fuck up and do their job.

Squeak the Rat

17th October 2006, 08:27

The Government says it is not prepared to accept another Guy Fawkes Day like last year's, which kept emergency service workers busy attending to hundreds of fires and injuries
While we completely encourage our hospital waiting rooms to be full of victims of assault. That problems too hard, lets ban crackers.

Ixion

17th October 2006, 08:28

The dreary gray brigade attack again. Haunted by the horrifying terrible fear that someone, somewhere, might be having fun

The Stranger

17th October 2006, 08:34

For fucks sake, thats what the bloody firemen are paid for. They should just shut the fuck up and do their job.

They spend most of their time training, or sitting around waiting or attending false alarms.
Would have thought they would like a bit of action once in a while to break the boredom.

RantyDave

17th October 2006, 08:44

"I don't want to restrict people's freedom," Mr Benson-Pope said.

Presumably while shovelling a tennis ball into another reporter's mouth.

But, really, read between the lines - is the problem here the government, nanny state, or a general lack of personal responsibility. Are there firework related "accidents" or firework related "behaving like a twat" incidents? Are they people who should know better, or people who should learn to keep their kids under control. Or under water, in some cases.

Perhaps the problem is the fireworks themselves. The ones we get here are a *lot* more dangerous than the ones I used to get in England. And, no, I'm not about to do a "it was better back home" speech because it wasn't but the fireworks did have better safety standards, were not imported from China and sucked more.

Perhaps that's the answer. Perhaps people would buy fewer "home" fireworks if they sucked. Perhaps people would go to public displays if they didn't suck. More hot chicks at public firework displays, that's what I reckon. It's for safety mmmmkay?

Dave

Harry33

17th October 2006, 08:50

Fireworks are fun, but some people let them off all year round which isn't fun if you have a pet. One night or even one week isn't to bad.

The mini sky rockets and a plastic pipe was really fun though.

The_Dover

17th October 2006, 08:54

fuck it, make your own.

ManDownUnder

17th October 2006, 08:57

Fireworks are dangerous - ban them.
Guns are dangerous too

As are cars, planes, bikes (dare I say it... wooooooo), cell phones, electicity, water... blah blah blah blah blah.

OK - so fireworks are not "essential" - i.e. they're recreational only. So is motor sport, so is..

BAH HUMBUG. Stock up every year this year guys and gals. We wit till they've outlawed them and have a guyfawkes party to end them all.

Squeak the Rat

17th October 2006, 09:03

Like the government saying the other day that we can't ban cellphones in cars because then we'd have to ban all other things that distract drivers when they should be concentrating on the road. Like eating pies or putting on make up.

WTF are you on about you bunch of incompetent feacal remains of pond scum?

This can't be reality.

The_Dover

17th October 2006, 09:07

This can't be reality.

that's what I keep praying, still I wake up every morning.....

Postie

17th October 2006, 09:32

who cares, the fireworks that you buy in the shops are crap anyway. Just google "how to make fireworks" and like Dover said, make your own.

35tickets

17th October 2006, 09:52

This country has gone to shit we're the laughing stock of the fucking world down here. Its no wonder australia doesn't want anything to do with the nanna state of this labour govt fucked up mess.

Big Sister (aka Clark) is watching!

And yet again its the minority of fuckwits that are irresponsible with fireworks fucking it up for everyone else. So cheers to those fucking losers and you better not use ACC as a fucking excuse when you set fire to yourself. Or if you do then do a good job of it....put a tire round your neck and dose yourself in petrol...then light the match.....jerks!!!!!!

sAsLEX

17th October 2006, 10:58

Would have thought they would like a bit of action once in a while to break the boredom.

They do they light them themselves!

And go the homemade!

Squeak the Rat

17th October 2006, 11:18

Remember when the intermenet first came along there was paranoia about kids getting online and learning how to make bombs?

scary huh,

I'm sure the proponents of banning fireworks have thought of this. Shall we ban professionally made fireworks? Surely the kids can't / won't use the net and create really unsafe ones.......

u4ea

17th October 2006, 11:27

GUY FAWKS = screw the government.........blow it up..........

whats wrong with public displays if it shows the government on mass ....SCREW YOU!!!!!!:Punk:

metophorically speaking of course!!!!!!!:shutup: :shutup: :shutup:

Squeak the Rat

17th October 2006, 11:33

What was probably an attempt to scare people into behaving "if you dont take care we'll ban them", this will probably backfire. Nutters from all around the country will take it that fireworks will not be available next year, so this year we need to GO HARD. Blow up letter boxes, hospitals, cateries, trains, sylvia park - you name it it needs to go BOOM. 'Cause it's the last time boys and girls. Muhahahhaa.

Then they'll all wonder why there were so many more callouts this year. Morons.:third:

jrandom

17th October 2006, 12:10

... 5) You're anti business, so kiwi companies can't compete and end up being sold to multinationals

Were you thinking of any companies in particular, there? That statement has the waft of bullshit.

Anyway, I'm not bothered about the fireworks. I'll just grab a pound of blackpowder and make my own if I feel the need.

SPman

17th October 2006, 12:45

The mini sky rockets and a plastic pipe was really fun though.
You only used mini skyrockets??????

oldrider

17th October 2006, 12:48

This government is a mix of mainly left wingers with anti freedom attributes hiding under a center left "Labour Government Label!"

Left leaning voters think they have the government of their "choice" and by the time they wake up and smell the roses, it will be too late!

How many "freedoms" have been suppressed since these guy's got into power and how many more will go before they are finished?

This government is self interested only and will do anything to make their own lives easier and ours more difficult.

They will activate a typical school teacher/union style reaction to any incident and they will create laws to suppress the majority in order to "control" the supposed antisocial actions of a few!

Meanwhile they will change laws retrospectively to guarantee their own "special" circumstances and protection and make sure that we the "Taxpayers" pay for it!

Think I am just a right wing winger? Watch them in action and "judge for yourselves!" :nono:

They seem to find a new way to rip us off almost every day!

They only take a rest from that to find new ways to feather their own nest!

They are so confident that they have control of the electorate and the media in this country they have no fear of electoral reprisal!

Power corrupts but absolute power corrupts completely! :shit:

Just keep watching them and you will see what I mean, they just can't help themselves! They are corrupt! :shutup: John.

Lias

17th October 2006, 13:16

http://www.pyroguide.com/index.php?title=Bottle_rocket

Yeehaw!

Swoop

17th October 2006, 14:04

Todays Harold.

'Adjustments' to tax coming, says Dunne

Tuesday October 17, 2006
By Paula Oliver

Revenue Minister Peter Dunne says personal tax "adjustments" will happen, conceding that the unveiling of a huge surplus has increased pressure for cuts.

In a statement which goes further than Finance Minister Michael Cullen was prepared to last week, Mr Dunne said yesterday that the "very large" Government surplus meant two things.

"The business tax reduction proposals I announced with Michael Cullen in the Business Tax Review in July will go ahead from April 2008, and they will be accompanied by personal tax adjustments as well, just as we foreshadowed."

The likelihood of personal tax cuts in the Budget next year is increasing, but Dr Cullen has so far fallen short of publicly committing himself.

The changes are expected to be in place in 2008, an election year.

How unusual... a coincidence surely...........:nono:

Finn

17th October 2006, 15:19

Were you thinking of any companies in particular, there? That statement has the waft of bullshit.

I'm not talking about the corner dairy or mum and pop businesses sonny. I'm talking big NZ businesses.

What's just happened to Feltex, Ihug, etc, etc. Name a fully NZ owned Insurance Company or Bank. There's a couple but that's it.

But it's okay, fish are normally wet behind the ears.

MacD

17th October 2006, 17:30

Squeak the Rat

17th October 2006, 17:40

Personal use of fireworks has been banned in most, if not all, Australian states for years.
Even between consenting adults?

WarlockNZ

17th October 2006, 18:12

better make it this year that I blow up my L plate then ;)

Lets have an L plate exploding party .. we can do it on the steps of parliment.

Waylander

17th October 2006, 18:15

Lets have an L plate exploding party .. we can do it on the steps of parliment.
Think you can somehow manage to accidentally blow up the rest of the building along with those that work there?

mstriumph

17th October 2006, 18:17

no fireworks save sparklers permitted in private hands here in west aus.

i used to be british - this is my CULTURE [or watever] they are mucking about with

if i were an aborigine, or an itinerate illegal-immigrant arab moslem, would they be selectively banning my heritage? not a chance - they'd be so awash with cultural sensitivity that it would sicken any normal human being to have to listen to it - plus they'd probably be innundating me with government grants and free tickets to the next vice-regal garden party

.... but because i'm NOT on their hierarchical list of taxpayer-funded worshipful ethnics they feel free to hack into my traditions and ban watever they feel like [using MY tax money to police the prohibition]

damnit .... think i'll don a loincloth, pick up a didgereedoo, apply for a dolecheck and go fly a couple of planes into some multistory building somewhere in canberra .............. mebbe THEN they'll realise i'm also worthy of their attention and they'll leave MY traditions alone too

Finn

17th October 2006, 18:19

i used to be british - this is my CULTURE [or watever] they are mucking about with

Good point. I wonder if it will stop the muslims blowing things up.

mstriumph

17th October 2006, 18:21

..........................
But it's okay, fish are normally wet behind the ears.

..... erm ......... :confused:
do fish HAVE ears?

crashe

17th October 2006, 18:35

Personally I cant stand fireworks now.

In my area they are let off for months and months afterwards and from the day of sale. So I am sick of them for that reason.
Why should I have to keep my cat in for months on end cos of these fireworks.

They cost a heap of money for so little return.

When I drove my car I had to drive with all the windows up cos the f*ckers would aim them at the open windows.
The f*ckers now aim them at the bikes now as well.

The HUGE bang is like a friggen bomb going off.....

So many kiddies are hurt each year cos the adults arent supervising them.

So as long as the people aren't being responsible, then ban them.
Only have organised nights that you can all go as a family and watch them....

Why the hell should the firemen and firewomen spend all their time putting out flaming fires that some twat lit or from a firework gone wrong... they are needed for more important jobs.

It has been on the cards for years to have them banned.

Waylander

17th October 2006, 18:37

Lots of words.
Oh yes why don't we all just sit in a little padded box with no freedoms to protect us from ourselfs. Be damned if I'm gonna lose anymore of my fun because a few genetic throwbacks can't control their spawn.

Skyryder

17th October 2006, 20:38

Timber020

17th October 2006, 21:57

Fuck em, fireworks are used to make alot of animals lives hell so other animals get some kicks every year. I know I dont like being shot at or burned, I say its about time we gave the loud shooting fireworks a rest.

jrandom

17th October 2006, 22:01

I'm not talking about the corner dairy or mum and pop businesses sonny. I'm talking big NZ businesses...

Shrug. Having been caught up in a trainwreck of a $500m acquisition by a giant dumb American corporation, I feel qualified to comment from an observer's perspective that not every sale of a large (well, medium-sized) NZ company is quite how the media, or indeed senior management, portray it. Even to their personal friends.

Incompetence and greed will always have their day. Don't discount them. I think there are some very good reasons for NZ being ranked behind Singapore as the second-best place in the world when it comes to ease of doing business. Bollocks the gubmint gets in the way. Blame failures on human nature, not The System.

Feel free to try and prove me wrong. I'm not omniscient, and I haven't stood in your shoes and seen what you've seen. But for the moment, I disagree with your position, you pompous, pessimistic blowhard.

;)

(Yes, the smiley is there so I can get away with insulting you. I love how smileys work like that.)

Fish do have ears, mstriumph, but they're fully internal. I guess they'd be pretty wet, generally speaking.

rwh

17th October 2006, 22:27

For fucks sake, thats what the bloody firemen are paid for. They should just shut the fuck up and do their job.

A large proportion of them are volunteers. Who miss out on enjoying the fireworks themselves, because they're too busy trying to save tracts of bush, people's houses etc from the idiots.

Richard

kro

18th October 2006, 05:42

For fucks sake, thats what the bloody firemen are paid for. They should just shut the fuck up and do their job.

Wrong on soooo many levels sorry Spank.

Lou Girardin

18th October 2006, 06:01

We get the Government we deserve. So, if you want a better Govt, start thinking about issues.
As for all the anti-Labour moaning, what has anyone here done to help get them out?
Joined another party?
Donated to lobby groups?
Started a letter writing campaign?
Done anything except moan?

This is the Kiwi disease, terminal apathy.

Squeak the Rat

18th October 2006, 08:10

When I drove my car I had to drive with all the windows up cos the f*ckers would aim them at the open windows.
The f*ckers now aim them at the bikes now as well.

So many kiddies are hurt each year cos the adults arent supervising them.

So as long as the people aren't being responsible, then ban them.
Only have organised nights that you can all go as a family and watch them....

Agreed, there are idiots out there.

But,

If individuals continue to disregard responsibility and accountability and if society keeps changing the laws to accomodate these individuals what the hell is this country going to look like in 15 years time?

Swoop

18th October 2006, 08:20

Surprised these morons in gubbinment haven't dreampt up a "Fireworks Licence".
Renewable annually, etc, etc...

They like making money off of us...

35tickets

18th October 2006, 09:20

Personal use of fireworks has been banned in most, if not all, Australian states for years.

This is true, although correct me if i'm wrong (it does happen and frequently) that fireworks are available at a certain time from ACT and i think by mail order or collection from Canberra.

Fireworks in OZ are great.....I've been to Phillip Island for the superbikes and the GPs (the GP in 2002). Theres 2 campgrounds, 1 for everyone who arrives on a bike and the other for the campervans and cars. In 02 the fireworks started up in the bike campground and went for about 5 minutes, then the campervan campground started and it went for ages. Then it was our turn again so for about half an hour there were big skyrockets and all sorts going off. fantastic display, heaps of cheering....and all paid for by the campers.

Bathurst was the same (2000) Clearly the boffheads on the mountain (Mt Panaroma) didn't read thier ticket information when they bought in fireworks aplenty. Unfortunately, we were meant to have strippers on the first night we were there but everyone got so carried away they burnt the stage down before the strippers or the band came on. :shit:

mstriumph

18th October 2006, 13:48

institutionalized 'fun'

same same china - just another opiate for the masses ....... all hail great corporations and mighty governments that, little by little, encourage the populace to rely on them for every little thing

feed me
cloth me
educate me
entertain me

all that it'll cost is your soul

this little camper reserves the inaliable cultural right to blow things up for herself ....

pritch

18th October 2006, 14:27

Fireworks in OZ are great.....

While fireworks are banned for personal use (fire risk) they seem to use any excuse to put on a public display; like opening and closing ceremonies for sports events.

From my limited observations they do it very well...

The Pastor

18th October 2006, 14:29

Re comments about firemen shutting up and how they should be wanting more action, those comments are in bad taste, a little off

ManDownUnder

18th October 2006, 14:29

this little camper reserves the inaliable cultural right to blow things up for herself ....

:love: :love: :love:

MacD

18th October 2006, 16:20

While fireworks are banned for personal use (fire risk) they seem to use any excuse to put on a public display; like opening and closing ceremonies for sports events.

From my limited observations they do it very well...

The Australians I work with were rather excitied to discover that you could still buy fireworks in NZ (they're from Victoria, where anything exciting is banned it seems, and Queensland). Only resulted in one fence burnt down in the early hours of the morning! :whistle:

Skyryder

18th October 2006, 16:32

One of the joys of parenting was letting off fireworks for my two little girls. I can still see their faces 'light up,' pun intended, as Roman Candels, pin wheels etc cascaded in shower of colours and sparks.

I went to the New Brighton Pier about two years ago and was disapointed. All I got was some silly bitch DJ talking for the sake of talking and when the fireworks started some god damn awfull 'musak.' It was so loud you could not hear the bangs as the fireworks exploded. Doubt if I will be gpoing again.

Skyryder

mstriumph

18th October 2006, 18:55

Re comments about firemen shutting up and how they should be wanting more action, those comments are in bad taste, a little off

i was a volunteer firefighter

-------- you get used to the abuse

THEY muck it up through lack of foresight, carelessness, watever reason so it catches fire

and YOU shoulda been able to put it out [preferably BEFORE it catches fire], saved poor puss and turned up ten minutes before they sounded the alarm .... all while making sure you don't step on the azalias or trek mud accross the porch

can't do that? nope - neither could most people ...... me either

-------- you get used to the abuse

Grahameeboy

18th October 2006, 18:58

It made front page news......for once Finn I agree 100% with you........you cannot buy fireworks cause they are dangerous but you can buy a 280kph motorbike.........guess which one is easier to get revenue from....in fact twice..GST and Tickets......strange old world..